This is great information and I just learned a lot of new things on how to add potential parents which I didn’t really understand even though I’ve been using this feature a long time. Thank you.
Hope I emphasized looking at the family enough LOL I wanted to keep saying it without being annoying LOL that along with looking at how well they sourced that match (or attempted to) really is important :)
Perhaps someone can help. Ancestry isn't showing potential ancestors on my trees, even though I have it marked to do so under site preferences. I can't seem to find a solution. Your video inspired me to give these a look. Thanks!
to give a potential ancestor it needs a birth year at minimum and it has to match that to what others have put. It looks at spelling, locations, etc. So if you put a location but someone has a different location (doesnt matter which is right at this point) the computer will see those as different people and not show it as same person, thus not show a potential parent. to get one to show someone has to have it in their tree and the data must match yours. If you have one in particular your wanting to try, maybe copy the dates and locations then remove all but birth year and give it 10m or so to search if not, put that data back on the person and try another one. It will try to match kids, etc. Thats why this feature has become so handy. It filters pretty well on things so to get a match it has to reach a threshold for it to recommend. I look forward to hearing if you get some show up trying this :) (dont forget to write down locations and such so you can put them back )
@@DNAFamilyTrees Interesting side note - when I switch to the vertical tree I do find some potential ancestors. Switch back to the horizontal tree as shown in your video there are no potential ancestors. Lots of potentials on thrulines so I took out all but the birth year on one which I knew had lots of dna potential ancestors, but no luck so far. Hmm.
Hi Larry, wonder if you could help. When researching one specific twig (!) on my tree, whilst looking at the potential parent pop-up, I accidentally clicked on 'NO' instead of 'MAYBE'. (It was late and about to head off to bed, but it was a strong 'potential' that I wanted to continue looking at the next day). I never did find that specific 'potential parent' hint again althugh I did resolve it by other means. Anyway, my question; is there a way to get the 'potential parent' hint to re-appear if it is deleted by mistake. Love your channel btw some great advice, much appreciated.
Larry, I'm glad it doesn't bring in the source citations! 1- It forces you to check the documents to make sure they indeed belong to that person. 2- There are so many valuable pieces of information to look at in these documents! 3- For the new researchers, it's a good practice to actually search for the information instead of relying on other trees. Others don't always have correct information and you might be copying that incorrect information into your tree. 4- Sometimes it's better to do your own research anyway instead of relying on it popping up magically and bang, done for you! With your own research, you can take notes on your ancestor, and mark a document "maybe" rather than an absolute so that you might come back to it later. I have a 4th great grandfather, NO ONE knows when or where he was born, or when he died. And 1825 (Canadian) Census gives an approximation of 'over 45 but not yet 60', so he could be born anywhere between 1765-1780 -ish so my umb dass (switch that d to where it belongs in front of umb!) relatives researching have put his death date as 1851 along with a record for a man of the same name who dies at age 18 in 1851! 1851 minus 18 = an 1833 birth year! Logic, a definite must while researching! Probably not the place to ask but have you done anything on slaves? This 4 GG was freed in 1797 when he came to Canada, most likely from the US.
Great points all, it is best to look at each piece to verify :) and you do find TREASURES that are often missed because forced to look. As for the Slave, yes, i have an immense amount of helpful information to share on topic. The challenge is how to do it. Ancestry Botched their commercial so hard Presenting raw facts without emotion can come across as inappropriately insensitive. However dancing around being sensitive is not conducive to factual presentation. This is by far the biggest challenge i have for a topic. There are so many "opinions", dogmas and paradigms on this subject that any presentation at all would undoubtedly offend most viewers just due to the topic. I will keep working on an appropriate and tasteful presentation of information that is undoubtedly going to upset most likely everyone, because it will not include political correctness, simply presentation of helpful facts based on historical facts and locations. This is the only way the information can be appropriately found and used. If clean portions up to sound "better" then it will mislead people away from the crucial resources they need. I plan for it to be factual and significantly helpful for anyone researching. But I know when i do, it will very likely get lots of views and comments and I will need to be prepared for that. there are alot of things I was never taught that i found while researching. Some good things, some bad things and i will present both as fact without partiality. So like i said, it is guaranteed to upset anyone with a set opinion that is one say or the other. Due to the impact this one will have, i do not have an estimated date on release though, and because i am triple checking the facts so that Anyone using the video is very likely to get positive results, it is drawing out release date far beyond what id have liked. (but to be fair i have had a "power clustering video on shelf since last July too that would help people alot! so its as much about me doing this solo and the time LOL If more people donated a cup of coffee each month on patreon at some point id be able to get help to get these out the door too :) until then its me on the hamster wheel 20-22hrs a day :) LOL
How does ancestry know if this is your potential Parents that is connected to your tree? I wonder if they use parents that everyone has connected to there tree even if it is wrong. I am having that problem right now. I ran the DNA results through Genetic Affairs and the parents they are suggesting on line. Is no where in these matches. This is just proving for me that the parents or parent is the wrong match. Should I now run a higher CM to be able maybe to find a parent.
GREAT POINTS! i hope people read them and response. They match the name, Birthdate and other criteria to make a "best guess" (if it matches multiple criteria it recommends) Now if people have the same "wrong person" it WILL show up as a potential parent. I have one that kept showing up until i marked it as NO, not the parent, then it stopped showing it. If you know the line to cluster on one side of a match, its just a matter of accumulating matches on the other side, manually making trees for each of those clusters u get in genetic affairs. Eventually you can connect those into a master tree and then triangulation will tell you were / how u connect and who the MRCA is.
I was listening at first, rather than watching and heard you say that Charles Harbough was born in 1887 and appeared in the 1880 census LOL. Had to scroll back and look (actually born in 1877).
This is great information and I just learned a lot of new things on how to add potential parents which I didn’t really understand even though I’ve been using this feature a long time. Thank you.
Hope I emphasized looking at the family enough LOL I wanted to keep saying it without being annoying LOL that along with looking at how well they sourced that match (or attempted to) really is important :)
Perhaps someone can help. Ancestry isn't showing potential ancestors on my trees, even though I have it marked to do so under site preferences. I can't seem to find a solution. Your video inspired me to give these a look. Thanks!
to give a potential ancestor it needs a birth year at minimum and it has to match that to what others have put. It looks at spelling, locations, etc. So if you put a location but someone has a different location (doesnt matter which is right at this point) the computer will see those as different people and not show it as same person, thus not show a potential parent. to get one to show someone has to have it in their tree and the data must match yours. If you have one in particular your wanting to try, maybe copy the dates and locations then remove all but birth year and give it 10m or so to search if not, put that data back on the person and try another one. It will try to match kids, etc. Thats why this feature has become so handy. It filters pretty well on things so to get a match it has to reach a threshold for it to recommend. I look forward to hearing if you get some show up trying this :) (dont forget to write down locations and such so you can put them back )
@@DNAFamilyTrees Thanks so much. I'll check that out.
@@DNAFamilyTrees Interesting side note - when I switch to the vertical tree I do find some potential ancestors. Switch back to the horizontal tree as shown in your video there are no potential ancestors. Lots of potentials on thrulines so I took out all but the birth year on one which I knew had lots of dna potential ancestors, but no luck so far. Hmm.
Alma Holt that’s great info!
I’ll start flipping the views and see what shows up for me too!
Hi Larry, wonder if you could help. When researching one specific twig (!) on my tree, whilst looking at the potential parent pop-up, I accidentally clicked on 'NO' instead of 'MAYBE'. (It was late and about to head off to bed, but it was a strong 'potential' that I wanted to continue looking at the next day). I never did find that specific 'potential parent' hint again althugh I did resolve it by other means.
Anyway, my question; is there a way to get the 'potential parent' hint to re-appear if it is deleted by mistake.
Love your channel btw some great advice, much appreciated.
I think this will help you better than i can describe in a comment - th-cam.com/video/Nmp7BqbQF6o/w-d-xo.html
@@DNAFamilyTrees Perfect. Just watched it, exactly what I needed (though I don't recall seeing the 'are you sure?' option. Thanks shipmate!
Larry, I'm glad it doesn't bring in the source citations! 1- It forces you to check the documents to make sure they indeed belong to that person. 2- There are so many valuable pieces of information to look at in these documents! 3- For the new researchers, it's a good practice to actually search for the information instead of relying on other trees. Others don't always have correct information and you might be copying that incorrect information into your tree. 4- Sometimes it's better to do your own research anyway instead of relying on it popping up magically and bang, done for you! With your own research, you can take notes on your ancestor, and mark a document "maybe" rather than an absolute so that you might come back to it later.
I have a 4th great grandfather, NO ONE knows when or where he was born, or when he died. And 1825 (Canadian) Census gives an approximation of 'over 45 but not yet 60', so he could be born anywhere between 1765-1780 -ish so my umb dass (switch that d to where it belongs in front of umb!) relatives researching have put his death date as 1851 along with a record for a man of the same name who dies at age 18 in 1851! 1851 minus 18 = an 1833 birth year! Logic, a definite must while researching!
Probably not the place to ask but have you done anything on slaves? This 4 GG was freed in 1797 when he came to Canada, most likely from the US.
Great points all, it is best to look at each piece to verify :) and you do find TREASURES that are often missed because forced to look.
As for the Slave, yes, i have an immense amount of helpful information to share on topic. The challenge is how to do it. Ancestry Botched their commercial so hard Presenting raw facts without emotion can come across as inappropriately insensitive.
However dancing around being sensitive is not conducive to factual presentation. This is by far the biggest challenge i have for a topic. There are so many "opinions", dogmas and paradigms on this subject that any presentation at all would undoubtedly offend most viewers just due to the topic.
I will keep working on an appropriate and tasteful presentation of information that is undoubtedly going to upset most likely everyone, because it will not include political correctness, simply presentation of helpful facts based on historical facts and locations.
This is the only way the information can be appropriately found and used. If clean portions up to sound "better" then it will mislead people away from the crucial resources they need. I plan for it to be factual and significantly helpful for anyone researching. But I know when i do, it will very likely get lots of views and comments and I will need to be prepared for that.
there are alot of things I was never taught that i found while researching. Some good things, some bad things and i will present both as fact without partiality.
So like i said, it is guaranteed to upset anyone with a set opinion that is one say or the other.
Due to the impact this one will have, i do not have an estimated date on release though, and because i am triple checking the facts so that Anyone using the video is very likely to get positive results, it is drawing out release date far beyond what id have liked. (but to be fair i have had a "power clustering video on shelf since last July too that would help people alot! so its as much about me doing this solo and the time LOL
If more people donated a cup of coffee each month on patreon at some point id be able to get help to get these out the door too :)
until then its me on the hamster wheel 20-22hrs a day :) LOL
Thanks!!!
And now you have to pay for this feature! Fun! :D
How does ancestry know if this is your potential Parents that is connected to your tree? I wonder if they use parents that everyone has connected to there tree even if it is wrong. I am having that problem right now. I ran the DNA results through Genetic Affairs and the parents they are suggesting on line. Is no where in these matches. This is just proving for me that the parents or parent is the wrong match. Should I now run a higher CM to be able maybe to find a parent.
GREAT POINTS! i hope people read them and response.
They match the name, Birthdate and other criteria to make a "best guess" (if it matches multiple criteria it recommends)
Now if people have the same "wrong person" it WILL show up as a potential parent. I have one that kept showing up until i marked it as NO, not the parent, then it stopped showing it.
If you know the line to cluster on one side of a match, its just a matter of accumulating matches on the other side, manually making trees for each of those clusters u get in genetic affairs. Eventually you can connect those into a master tree and then triangulation will tell you were / how u connect and who the MRCA is.
I was listening at first, rather than watching and heard you say that Charles Harbough was born in 1887 and appeared in the 1880 census LOL. Had to scroll back and look (actually born in 1877).
Oops! LoL
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