Not really. While there are wide ranging impacts on body and health from pregnancy, using this line to dismiss all criticisms against corsets is a bit vapid. While there are plenty of beneficial applications of corsets to even benefit peoples health, there are also plenty of concerns, especially with too tight lacing as it happened in the past for fashion reasons. Are corsets the devil? No. Are they sometimes (were often) connected to health risks? Yes. Just like with so many things they are good or even beneficial in moderation, but can also be very destructive. www.rcseng.ac.uk/library-and-publications/library/blog/effects-of-the-corset/
@@carpediem5232 Women back then didn't tight lace their corests. Yes, there were some upper class (rich & aristocratic) ladies that did but it's only because they didn't have to work. Upper class ladies only would have done so because they were really strict fashionistas. The funny thing is, tight lacing was seen as immoral, just as not wearing a corset was.
@@carpediem5232 1) Jessica is not talking about tight lacing (which only very rich women did and even then not regularly) 2) nothing useful can be gained from quoting doctors of the 19th century as the average 12 year old knows more about medicine than them
@@eddie9420 Women back than didn't lace there corsets, but women who didn't have to work did. I specifically pointed out that there are more parts to consider when talking about corsets as a whole. The exaggerated stereotypes are wrong, but so is generalizing that corsets are just fine in all cases.
You and Karolina uploading corset content within hours of each other is a thing of purest beauty ♥️ (also, that pokey rib thing is *real*, and not-straight Scoliosis puns do not ever get old. 😁)
You are just an amazing woman, thank you for all of your content! Especially the recent zoom sessions including the one concerning disability and costume making.
I owe all of you historical and vintage fashion lovers so much, it has brought me a sewing hobby, new style, pockets and now possible back pain relief. I had been questioning saving up and buying a corset but now am fully convinced! And it might even relieve the back and shoulder pain I have due too the two “melons” on my chest. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Between you and Lady Donner, I am most seriously considering a corset as my foundation garment. May you and His Lordship Cesario fare well on this day, Lady Banner!
Seriously gorgeous. When she did the reveal with the corset and non-corseted side by side I lost track of which was which. She looks lovely no matter what. I thought they both looked great. But regardless it all matters if she’s comfortable and feeling Relief from her pain a bit.
One thing I hear people neglect often in the “actresses hate corsets” argument is that filming days are very long, often upwards of 12 hours, so wearing a tight, ill-fitting corset with nothing underneath for that length of time would be enough to make anyone uncomfortable I think. (Although in the grand tradition of theatre I think some exaggeration is involved lol) :) Anyway, you look lovely as always and I’m loving that corset for you!!
Costuming also makes the clothes look good, not to be functional. They often make them from synthetic (hot) materials, because it cuts down from the budget. Imagine all those layers, and nothing breathes or fits well.
Especially with tight movie deadlines, or letting the corset be broken into. Not to mention the corsets are probably made with cheap, synthetic fabrics and could lead to fainting due to overheating from a bad corset.
Since working in the movie industry as a costume maker, I have noticed that most of the complaints can also be attributed to ones posture and habits. We , as a 'modern' society, are not used to the rigide posture and layering of earlier times and feel uncomfortable being bent , 'weighted down' and forced into unfamiliar postures for hours on end. That, and some people just over grown babies that can't stand anything more constraining than jeans and T-shirts XD
@serendipidus1 I'm sorry if my comment gave you the impression that I did not care for the comfort of the actors. That was not at all my intentions, and I apologize. What I ment is some of the discomfort might also come from the wearer being 'forced' into postures due to 'periode accurate' cut for instance early period tops would force your shoulders back for posture sake and out of the habit of the time. I would never neglect someone's need or comfort for aesthetic sake nor would I blame them for it. Period cloth are not kind to modern stance if you are not used to it. And than they are people that don't even want to wear the periode cloth for a period piece (not even with periode accurate underwear), and make you question your carriere choices.
As a cisgender man who has spent years exercising to slowly...slowly...fix issues with pokey-outey ribs and postural issues: **** it, maybe it's corset time!
They have men’s corsets in the style of vests! I haven’t seen too many reviews or looked too closely at the vendors, but I’ve always thought they were beautiful. I wish you the best of luck in your hunting!
I’ve been looking into my own rib flare through the years and there are some medical braces just for your ribs. Corsets are more meant to help your back whereas the braces focus on the ribs. However, people with rib flare have posture issues (like yourself),so I, personally, like a nice corset over the braces as it’s a 2 birds 1 stone ordeal.
15:40 I remember Megan Fox talking about how she didn’t mind wearing a corset in film, and that she actually kind of enjoyed it. But, everyone hated everything she said back then, so it was received as expected...
It always annoys me when people make the assumption that corsets are only for tight lacing. Corsets were basically a glorified bra and shapewear combined. They smoothed out the way dresses or other garments lay on your body, giving the smooth, crisp look.
Yeah, since I started wearing corsets daily, I get that question a lot. Like, I can breathe, and sing, just fine in my corsets! I’m not lacing tight, and the only reason tight lacing is mentioned as much as it is in the time period is because it was highly controversial, like the diets of models are highly controversial. And while I wear off-the-rack corsets, I took my time getting used to it, and found great relief in my back pain caused by an accident since I started them! Also, the fact that I can breathe easier in a corset than a bra baffles people.
To be fair tightlacing is severely damaging. They even found indentations of the ribs on the livers of women who did it. There were also cases of women breaking ribs/puncturing lungs and such. Not to mention there were other issues with lung damage and heart problems. But yeah if you wear them properly they aren't bad at all 😊
Yeah the only ones that make people faint were the ones in the 18th and 19th century that bent people's bodies into an S shape and the ones that were laced far too tight for words! But I'd think that if you had one laced to the correct point and the right size you wouldn't just collapse
I always feel bad for the actresses who end up giving interviews about how miserable their corsets were. Like how awful to have to do your job in a garment that is actively hurting you just because nobody bothered building an extra week into the schedule so you can get a halfway decent fitting in.
And if you notice, almost all of them are wearing their corsets on bare skin!! The costumers werent given allowance to make even the plainest slip for the actresses to wear under their corset, which has to be excruciatingly uncomfortable
That's so shitty. I'm a stage performer and even as a student, our costumers paid a lot of attention to finding, if not making, undergarments for period costumes that worked for each of us. My sophomore year, the lead costumer even lent me stays she'd made for herself because none of the ones on hand would fit! I can't believe that film costumers are so lackadaisical.
@@auditoryeden dont get me wrong i dont blame the costume department for director's choices/funding options, in theatre at least i know costuming is chronically understaffed and underpaid for the amount of work that goes into things, i wouldnt be surprised if film is the same way
Bernadette Banner has a briliant video about historical coursets and how she made her own because she also has scoliosis but her esthetic is totally Edwardian witch so one is kind of required
Yes, instantly thought of that! th-cam.com/video/rExJskBZcW0/w-d-xo.html (edit: I don't know why I would ever assume that historynerd! Jessica would ever not do her homework, or that she doesn't watch Karolina and Bernadette)
Always so wonderful to see scoliosis representation on the internet! I had two curves of 60-something and 40-something degrees before I had a spinal fusion 7 years ago, now they're around 30 degrees each. Finding well-fitting clothes and underwear has been the bane of my life, it really affects your body confidence when everything is just a little wonky.
Georgia Marie i under how you feel I was so excited to see this I as well have scoliosis and had surgery we the rods fused I was curved at a full 90 degree angle and my doctor said the surgery was a matter of life and death for me so it was huge to say the least that being said I get so excited when scoliosis is properly represented
For those who have had the fusion surgery, do you find you have limited movement or some exercises that you're not able to do now. And or more or less pain? My parents keep nagging at me to get fusion surgery but I am extremely lucky to only get pain when I over exercise and pull something. I get achey a lot but not a lot of sharp pain considering my curved are 54/45 I feel very fortunate. So for me I'm not sure if the surgery will be worth it? I'd love to hear people's thoughts because I don't know anyone else with scoliosis and I've never had the chance to talk to other people about it so I'm just a tad excited to see scoliosis mentioned and explained in this video
@@lauragibbons1951 Hey, I have a fused spine and I’m a dancer & aerialist. Yes I do have some limitations on how far my back can bend and how far I can twist, but these are in general minor: I was able to get my arabesque parallel to the floor to the floor again, I would label lying on my stomach and pushing my chest off the floor until my arms are fully extended as no problem and doing a bridge as possible but difficult. Outside of dance/etc. I don’t have mobility limitations that affect daily activities in a way that’s really noticeable. That said, that is all specific to my particular body. I have a partial fusion and I had a slightly less severe S-curve than you, if you would be getting more or different vertebrae fused your mobility limitations might be completely different (I would recommend talking to your potential surgeon, they might not be able to tell you definitively which vertebrae will be fused but they’ll likely be able to give you a general picture of the length and placement of your fusion). I decided to have my fusion because I had a lot of pain, the muscles in my back almost always hurt some and I would have very bad spasms, the surgery didn’t eliminate my back pain entirely but it did reduce it a lot. It was worth it for me but there are definitley a lot of cons too, the recovery was long and difficult and it took a lot of training to get the flexibility I have now. I also had an awesome surgeon who was able to straighten my spine while leaving my more mobility than I might have had otherwise. My surgery improved my life quite a bit and even though it sucks that I can’t do the contortion tricks I could before, it’s worth it to feel stable in my body and be able to carry a backpack agony-free. But it’s not worth it for everybody and as long as you don’t need the surgery for health reasons (like your spine is compressing your lungs or something), not doing it is a totally valid choice. Hope this helps!
@@Phebe_Lace Hey, that's really helpful, thank you for sharing your experiences with me. I also used to do pole and hoop until last year when I had a motorbike accident (not serious, just took some recovery and then I got out of the habit and then pandemic). I am fully aware the experience is different for everyone because of placements of curves and so on but it's still insightful for me to hear others experiences! And thank you for the comment about it being a valid choice not to get surgery. I struggle with this most because the people around me pester me about surgery, I got refused PIP (I have more than just scoliosis) but one thing they said was they wouldn't give me money because I wouldn't get the surgery so basically implying that it can't be that bad 🙄 Anyway, thank you for being kind and sharing 😊
@@rayebowen3420 I'm guessing it was a custom made? Or home sewn? Wait. Im talking about the bra in the beginning when she's going over her spinal issues. Are yall talking about the bra during her fitting? That one looks like Victorias secret
Americentric sounds like the kind of word I’m not using but should be. This channel astounds me with the amount of interesting facts randomly appearing.
@@caitlinjopepe541 😁 awesome, we're sure tired of it too words are created by humans so just make any word you like and if people like the word it will spread 👌🏻🤓
Flo Smith Hahaa, right?! I love her chaotic, spastic energy. And her “measurements,” a la “cut out a hunk of fabric roughly the size of an American Girl doll’s headboard” lol That girl is something else...
Speaking as an actor- The last show I did which required a corset was a very heavy going musical, with multiple, very quick costume changes. The corset I was given as my "base" corset was the first one out of the pile that fitted. Note, this was a big-budget, professional show. The shoes I wore were provided on day one of the rehearsals; the corset arrived with less than two weeks before opening night. So not a lot of time to break it in.. That and the costume mistress remarked on day 1 of tech (tech: the technical rehearsal period where lighting and sound timings are marked in) that I didn't have the right silhouette for the period and demanded that it be laced tighter. I also had a second corset that I had to put on for another character, and because of time constraints in costume changes, meant for about 30 minutes of act one, I was wearing two corsets, three shirts, a coat, a petticoat, bustle, a heavy woolen skirt, hosiery, leggings, whilst in 5-inch heels, a full wig and makeup. Now, there's no aircon in most theatres, and if there is it's generally aimed at the audience, not the stage. We rehearsed from 9am to 6pm every day, with a cast of 20 singing and dancing, and also a full tech crew, and an onstage 6 piece band. It was 34 degrees outside all week, but 43 degrees indoors. Horrific doesn't quite cut it. With all of this combined, I was almost constantly struggling to breathe, and at one point did almost pass out on stage (but thankfully did not). It cooled down massively for the actual run of the show (thank goodness!) and I got used to adjusting my breathing to allow for the corset(s) So when actors complain about corsetry, it may seem melodramatic, but the goings-on behind the scenes generally tell of a most basic misunderstanding of how corsets work, and an expectation of just "dealing with it". Because everyone expects you to be uncomfortable, no-one even considers that it could be anything but. TL:DR- Actors really aren't to blame about their corset complaints, they don't really get a choice in how it's made or worn.
@@skylerchan7746 I think he means wearing it for hours while using your voice/lungs excessively under hot and harsh lights. He didn't deny that people can wear it daily under their own wish so idk how commenting this added anything to contradict or even argument his comment.
@@skylerchan7746 right?! Plus the op said they wore 2 which is insane even when TRYING to waist train! I wear 1 also but just 1. Too bad they wasted & ruined the ops first experience.
@@BBaaaaa I think it was wearing the 2 at a time that was extreme, painful & overboard especially for someone not wanting to change their body. Feel bad for them because I wear 1 and if it's done responsibly and correctly it just feels like a comfortable bear hug really. I can only imagine how horrible the op felt under those conditions 😭Shame some people are forced to endure pain just to do a job they love!
Another possibility for men coming against anything a woman needs: cost. Guys have a tendency to think women overspend and don't have needs. It may be a stereotype but it has been seen often enough in my family.
It's pretty common everywhere. Ironically women are also overcharged for the same things of course but there's this idea everything beyond survival is superfluous if a woman enjoys it - as well as everything women doing being for men.
"Guys have a tendency to think women overspend and don't have needs" That was certainly true of my first husband. Part of the reason why I divorced him.
I have an incomplete spinal cord injury with some skeletal issues and bone spurs. It was really cool seeing her release this, as I making my own corset and didn't want to take off my last mock up because it helped my back pain so much!
I’m such a fan of Catherine! Thank you for bringing attention to modern medical/ therapeutic corsetry, it's a huge passion of mine. Jessica, if you ever read this - as you wear your corset more, do make note of whether it also improves the symptoms of your POTS symptoms, it would be wonderful to note. Also! The whole urban myth of corsets causing "livers to cut in half" was very likely just early observations of Riedel's lobe, which an accessory lobe that close to 20% of the population are naturally born with. It's important to take Victorian medical reports with a grain of salt, considering that physicians and coroners were initially concerned and confused by the earliest X-rays showing that the position of the organs of living patient standing up was a tad different from the position and shape of organs of a dead body lying supine. ;)
In my experience, a corset has helped me with my POTS (I have scoliosis and HSD as well)! On days where I have to stand for extended periods, or sit and stand a lot, I’ve found that wearing a corset helps a bit with the dizziness, but not a lot. Compression socks have been more helpful for me, as have compression shirts! (Gymshark, surprisingly, has some good compression shirts for shockingly... decent prices)
Lucy's Corsetry but we're a talking in 2020! Sorry but in 1920 CORSETS WERE BAD, I'm serious because ok the large people are wearing now but AREN'T victorians! Are different, stop, sorry but they didn't eated because they were thicc...at least ok if we've talking about medium class but fashion were different, in important occasions they should wearing corsets thicc! Also many of them died...for the actress I doubt effectively is corset's fault but ISN'T like victorian era, please. What is told about it is true, a lot...
I read after the end, you are right...i think is dangerous say was okay! Modern is but victorian's was horrible! Who tried it didn't really, it was different
@@Yep6803 have you considered that if so many Victorian women were dying due to corset-wearing, there wouldn't be any women alive to have babies & the population would take a major hit? Go check population records. Narry a spike nor a canyon except due to famines & epidemics. That kinda data is the only proof available because, surprise, no one alive today lived back then.
I tend to think of them as two hairless cats who sit on my chest and make my life generally hotter, sweatier and more annoying (and more painful) than necessary.
"Chest demons" is my new favorite thing and I might use that in reference to a character I wrote up for a DnD lmao (yes I'm a trans guy playing a trans character. It's mostly for fun and calico cats are gorgeous)
I was seriously silent screaming at my computer with my arms in the air when you said they wouldn't give you a therapeutic brace. I'm floored. I was a hardcore structural massage therapist for twelve years, until injury and possibly fibro (trying to figure that one out...) forced me to retire. Scoliosis and correcting spinal curves was one of my specialties. There is a brilliant man named Eric Dalton, who you might want look into. His work changed my life professionally. He did a study following a young girl and the improvement of her curvature following a series of massages. That being said Corsets are brilliant when made for you. I find mine relieve back pain, bad posture, and sooth my severe anxiety. I'm so excited for you. Also, your new corset is lovely! Congratulations and thank you for making this video.
@@user-bj7em4fv1p Hi! I'm so sorry, anxiety is the worst. So the principle is the same as thunder jackets for dogs or swaddling a baby to calm it. It puts pressure on the nervous system interrupting the anxiety process, or at least that is my experience of it. It also corrects posture and it has been found that where the body goes the mind will follow and vise versa. So with a more upright and more open posture, the mind tends to be more open and uplifted. I find that when I wear my corsets in stressful situations: I can think clearer, am more confident, and feel more in control. I tend to feel like if I let go I will fly apart and I can't when I am laced in. It is as if it gives me something to relax against. (as a note, I am most likely ASD, working on diagnosis, so mileage may vary) If you do decide to start corseting: get/make a corset that fits properly, start loose (you can always adjust later), wear a linen or cotton camisole under it (corsets never go against your skin), and go slow. Give yourself time to adjust. The muscles in your back and chest need time to relax into the new posture. If you rush it, you won't enjoy it and more likely to give up on corsets, so just be compassionate with yourself and your body. But once you have acclimated to a corset you will find you are less likely to hurt your back during daily activities, having good posture will become effortless, and the mind will follow your head and chest into a more open and uplifted disposition. I hope this is helpful and that you are able to find ways to tackle your anxiety. Good Luck!
@@user-bj7em4fv1p There’s a cheap Kindle book of testimonials about therapeutic corsetry, edited by Lucy Williams: “Solaced: 101 true stories of corsets, well-being, and hope.” Maybe a dozen entries mention anxiety-reduction. It’s at www.amazon.com/Solaced-Uplifting-Narratives-Corsets-Well-Being-ebook/dp/B01FCT4BW6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=solaced&qid=1606102105&s=books&sr=1-1
@@valerianaranjocruz25 It does serve a similar purpose. A weighted blanket you can wear. lol. Consequently, I also love my weighted blanket. Chills my brain out.
Seconded. I finally admitted that I have some minor hearing loss and started using the captions on TH-cam videos all the time. Suddenly my need to constantly rewind videos to hear what people are saying mysteriously disappeared. Also sometimes I just want to eat chips (crisps) when I’m watching videos.
Yes, she inspired me to put captions on my history of science videos and I’m so glad I did. I’m working on my back catalogue but it’s important and as you said not just for people who are deaf.
@@Kathy_Loves_Physics that's great! I find it to be soo much easier to follow educational videos if they have captions, I can easily jot down the words I'm unfamiliar with without needing to rewind the video several times to sus out the hopefully correct spelling. It's a real time saver and makes it easier to learn new concepts and to do more research about the topic on my own.
That is because most people are referring to the US as America and therefore Americans for their inhabitants (and americentrist). I'm "American" as live on the continent, but am certainly not from the US. In French we can refer to États-Uniens for people living in the US. 🤷🏽♀️
@@sage4365 I honestly didn't realise that a was a hot topic until recently. People are saying that the U.S had claimed the word "American" for themselves. But like.... they're the only country with America in their name so I fail to see the problem.
Sage People do refer to themselves as their continent, actually, such as people being called Asian, European or African when referring to many of the countries in the continent, instead of just one. Then you also have the fact that people call themselves latinoamericans or hispanoamericans, that’s a thing that happens. I live in Mexico and we call people who live in the US ‘estadounidenses’ since they are from the United States
@@Mrdbz1000 the fact that it's the only country without it's own proper noun as a name shouldn't mean that everyone else in the continent of America can't refer to themselves as American without others confusing it with US. It wouldn't be a problem if media and the whole western culture wasn't Americentrist too.
The whole segment about how we've been lied to about corsets and the shout outs to Karolina and Bernadette made me squeak with joy! 😍 And I'm so happy that the beautiful corset really helped you. Such a great video.
When you said back pain became boring... girl you finally put words on what I've felt for the past 10 years !! I'm getting a breast reduction soon I cannot wait for these peach orbs to go
I'd never made the connection between women's rights movements, male ridicule of women's fashion and the fact that the fashion was made by women resulting in lost business for those women. Mind blown! Thanks Jessica! You changed my whole perception of the switch to bras in the early 20th century.
same tbh! i really love reading about the suffrage movements (specially in europe since i live here) but never even read about that connection.... but it's so logical and apparent now to me....all the good little facts you learn via Jessica's vids is what i live for
Also much of the "corsets are bad hur de hur" came from a doctor who was talking about a specific kind of corset and claiming that it was terrible and that instead, women should buy his new health corset. So it wasn't even them saying that they're all bad, it was just shit talk about another brand basically! Another doctor tried to prove that corsets were dangerous only to find that on average, all his female patients (all wearing corsets) well outlived their male counterparts who did not, and who had none of the issues he was trying to claim corsets could cause. When you compare his findings to modern day mortality statistics, its pretty much the same thing - women outlive the men. Which basically shows that the general effects of wearing a corset didn't change things one way or another. Much of the switch to bras as opposed to corsets was due to WW1. There were adverts put out asking women to donate the steel from their corsets, and corset production pretty much slowed to a stop so that the steel could be diverted to munitions. Same with any silk that would have gone to making corsets, instead that went to make parachutes. So women would often keep boning from one corset and put it in another they made in order to keep the support when they couldn't buy new ones. And then there is the style of corsets which people were wearing during WW1 - the longer corsets which went from just beneath the bust to over the hips. That style was a lot less forgiving in terms of flexibility (the boning stopped at the hip, but the fabric went to mid thigh). The shape was becoming more straight up and down rather than emphasising large hips and a nipped in waist and the bust was fashionably kept in a lower pigeon breast position. By that point the corsets were being worn with separate bust supporters. So it makes an awful lot of sense that if you're going to go work in a factory that involves clambering around, you don't want leg restrictions. And if steels are in short supply, it wouldn't make sense to wear a long style of corset. But as there is a war on, there's not really as much time for coming up with new styles, so just wear the bust supporter bit. If the corset style had been shorter - and focused more on the bust support that the earlier styles had, and the steel hadn't been requisitioned, then you'd have probably had a lot more people keeping wearing corsets. Though people did still continue to wear them after the war and they never really fully went away. Some people switched to girdles, those who loved the older style or were into corsets as a fetish thing did have people to order from still. There was the New Look revival, then Goths, Punks and other alternative subcultures added them to their wardrobes in the late 70s and 80s. And then they've been in and out of mainstream fashion ever since that. And nowadays there are tons of corsetieres out there again.
interesting way to deal with back pain... with a corset , makes sense, usually people wear a back brace which is a form of a corset lol outside the box thinking my dudette! very nice!
And I find more comfortable and adjustable than a traditional back brace! I bloat on my period and the fact that I can tighten or loosen depending on my body’s needs is wonderful!
My back brace for my spine fracture literally even tightened at the waist. I measured once out of curiosity and it took like 2 inches off when properly fitted. Not my goal ever but an interesting comparison.
This is actually pretty standard for any corsetiere where you can't come for fittings, though it does rely a little on the post working and also, ideally, good bandwidth :)
My mom really bullied me for my scoliosis. I slowly started to accept myself. But this here gave me a boost of confidence. It can be frustrating but I know that it's not the worst thing
I absolutely LOVE the way they've changed the direction of the pull on the straps, so that you pull forward to tighten rather than having to pull backwards away from your back (or needing to get someone else to do it putting their foot in your back lol). I've never seen that before!! Probably a big difference between corsets made purely for fashion and ones actually made for function and comfort. Would love it if you could do a follow up video on this a few months (or even a year) down the line to see how you're feeling in it in the long term.
I second that I would love to see a follow-up video. I also have scoliosis but don't have a ton of money and don't want to invest if it hasn't worked for others long-term.
@@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter I think you would need a medical corset or at least a longer one, that also covers the upper rip cage to give more stabilization. This one reduces her blood circulation, which I don't think, is good! As others mentioned, proper shoes are also important, as they change the posture of your hips and spine. Depending on the damage of your bones etc you also might find some shoulder straps to adjust posture quite helpful. They, maybe, can help to strengthen back muscles and reduce the need of a corset. But you should do some research, if those tips could help you. Make also sure, you have a good mattress and pillow (good pillow on a horrible stiff mattress might not help), that fits your sleep habits and supports you. And as a girl, a good supporting bra should also draw your attention. Maybe try out different ones (full covered in the back, crossed straps, strong but elastic lower band, sports bra, whatever feels good to you). Once it's safe again to go out in public. Until then you have a bit time for research! You might not need all of these things, but it can help reduce your difficulties.
I am so happy you've brought up the misconceptions about corsets. I am very interested in historical fashion, and the amount of misinformation I've seen about them is staggering. Love to see the mention of Karolina and Bernadette as well!
Corsets, back braces or other "slimming" elastic undergarments have been able to help me & my mother's back pain but it took trying out a lot of the different shapes & styles to find the ones that fit us.
When I was 10 years old I was diagnosed with scoliosis. My curve was/is C shaped and located just above my waist. When it was found the doctor told my parents and me that I was two or three degrees away from having surgery to place rods and pins against my spine. Instead I was put into a fiberglass back brace that was shaped like, of all things, a corset. I wore it for almost two years. I went from having a 27 or 28 degree curve to a 3 degree curve. Can't believe that was almost 40 years ago.
Mine is S shaped, although once it went past 38° to 42° + in a matter of six or so weeks, my surgeon said there was no other option but to operate. This was done in --- the long since closed --- The Middlesex Hospital in Central London. Fortunately, I knew the surgeon already, as he had transfered from the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital, in Stanmore. Unfortunately, it was because my younger sister, too, has scoliosis, except her spine is more like a severe c shape ... I can tell you many a story about her ... My operation was relatively simple: single rod, tied to the spine, no screws; plus a L1-L5 fusion. That was c. 1992, or thereabouts. Flash forward to early 2010s, and I began experiencing chronic pain. A CT and MRI later confirmed that the scoliosis remained stable. When I mentioned to the consultant that examined both of those that my surgeon was Mr. M. A. E. Edgar, a renowned spinal orthopaedic surgeon, he exclaimed "well, no wonder your scoliosis is stable, but we have no idea about the pain". That was St. George's Hospital, in Tooting. A referral to St. Thomas' in Westminster, and Kingston Hospital, revealed that I now have all the symptoms of progressive fibromyalgia, with absolutely no explanation as to why. So I live on a cocktail six kinds of painkillers including diazepam, morphine, and gabapentine. And a few years ago, literally about midday one day, me standing beside the ironing board, the very feint tinnitus I have always had that used to come and go since a child, erupted into full force. Now all I hear is continuous hissing and whistling sounds in both ears, with sometimes two different tones, at the same time, in the same ear ... which means my circadian rhythm is way out of wack, although certain ASMR tracks do actual help to 'counteract' that constant white noise ... But that pales into comparison to what my sister went through ... This comment is already long enough as it is, but if interested, I can tell you what I remember of what happened to her ... [Edit: God, I can be so utterly selfish at times ... It just so happened reading your comment caused a flashback to when I was diagnosed, and then seeing the rapid change in the x-rays. I can imagine that you went through something very similar, all those years ago, in 1979 (same year I had open heart surgery, aged 5). I know what you mean about the fiberglass courset, as mine was the same (wish my mum didn't throw it away, as I may well could do with it now ...). I can imagine it was a really painful to wear, as I can imagine it was incredibly restrictive. I could take off mine, as it had straps in the front, and sometimes left it off during the night, as sleeping in a hard, uncomfortable, and unforgiving shell was bad, but the pain could be bad enough, due to my mum scrimping on the mattress on my bed, I had to sleep with it on... But what truly amazes me is that yours managed to change your scoliosis so drastically. Perhaps because you were still young that you were still growing. In my case, I was 18, or so, and even with Noonan's Syndrome, any growth would have slowed down by the age of 18 in 1992. Still, yours is both an incredible, and remarkable story, and do please forgive me for hijacking it ...]
@@nigelft I have S-curve scoliosis, with pronounced lordosis in my lumbar and lower thoracic spine. It was found when I was 11-years-old. I'm not sure what my percentages are or even were then, but I do remember being told surgery to insert a rod around my spine was on the table. I declined that particular treatment, as the fear of becoming paralyzed was entirely too much for my young mind, and apparently those of my parents' as well. Instead, I saw a chiropractor for many years. There was some success, but not enough to rid me of pain and spinal curvature. Also, my cervical spine does not curve the right direction, but that has more to do with car accidents I was in than scoliosis, though it contributed. I was not the driver in any of those accidents, either. As for the specific kind of tinnitus you're experiencing, I believe you may have Ménière's Disease. Please get checked out. I have it. The more advanced phases of the disease provide a wide variety of ringing sounds in the ear, along with whooshing, static, and various combinations of them all. The sudden bouts falling elevator vertigo, that switches to feeling like one is on a boat in rough seas, is just an added fun element to the B-movie horror film carnival ride that is Ménière's Disease. Oh, joy.
I have the same type of scoliosis as you. I was diagnosed when i was 7 and used a corset until i got surgery at 10. Nothing really worked for me, and the curves are still there and they will always be. I used to hate my body so much because of my scoliosis. I felt ugly for so many years and thought that nobody would ever find me atractive. I'm 20 now and i feel so much better, and i've accepted my body; but my teenage years were a nightmare. I didn't even care about the pain anymore, i just wanted to have a normal body and feel pretty and not have to hide underneath loose clothes. Nobody around me really understood how much i hated my back. It feels really good to grow up and to understand that looks are not what matter the most. I don't know if anyone will ever read this but this video and your positivity towards this condition means a lot to me. I wish i could've seen something like this when i was younger. Thank you, Jessica
There are corset-makers who cater for the male figure. As a woman who sometimes uses a corset for back pain (although nothing on the level of Jessica's troubles) I can confirm that it's an avenue worth exploring.
It's worth a shot! You can get them fairly plain with simpler lacing. Im female but I wear mine over a cotton tank top and then put a regular shirt (v neck tee, simple light shirts) and no one can tell unless they go to hug me and feel the boning. The extra support is really helpful plus I always get a lot of "you look great!" From people when I wear mine bc I'm standing straighter.
I am a male and back pain definitely motivated the purchase. It has been a few months now and I am still working through some issues with skin tags. The corset tears them to shreds and once gone, the skin is not quite the same and does not respond the same. The corset does not help with my back pain to the extent I hoped it would but it does help and it is amazing for your posture while sitting at a desk all day. I definitely like how it makes me feel though and my appearance does look better while wearing it if any of that is helpful.
Check out Timeless Trends in their Libra style. They cater to the male figure with bigger ribcage, so you can lace in more of an inverted triangle shape, and come in plainer fabrics :)
I'm watching it while playing with my 10 month old daughter and she keeps waving at you and saying "eyyyy" :) so... I guess my baby wanted us to say hi to you :) and we're sending lots of love from Poland. Thank you for amazing content
Couldn’t click on this quickly enough! I find corsets very comforting for my particular back pain. Better fitting and more durable than lots of back braces. I was also surprised to get a sort of squeeze box anxiety relief out of them too... Thank you for this very personal dive into the topic.
I didn't expect to get emotional watching this but here I am crying away! I have scoliosis too (and a spinal fusion) and watching you talk about your own asymmetries while being so amazing and beautiful was wonderful and emosh! Thanks for making this video!! ♥️
I find it funny: you see all sorts of ads on TV and on the internet about back braces, spine correctors, you name it, and yet you mention the word corset you get weird looks. They're very similar yet one is shunned, dangit! I have a 12° curve which is as close to scoliosis as one can get without being scoliosis but those braces don't help. Might try a corset. Thanks for the video!
I used to have a corset brace. It was basically off the rack but professionally picked out & was ordered by my doctor. Covered by insurance too. Unfortunately it didn't help my low back because I needed a fusion due to bone rubbing on bone. But it might help you more & only costs a couple hundred without insurance. I actually wish I hadn't lost mine. I loved that it had 3 very easily adjustable straps I could adjust anywhere. Along with the front velco I often let out to sit down.
It’s not for shape purposes - it’s coz it’s damn hard to put your shoes on after your corset - try putting shoes on after your corset and you’ll soon learn.
Surprisingly - not necessarily. Bernadette Banner recently made a video where she compared living in her medical corset and a victorian one and managed to put on shoes in both without many issues. She just had to use different movements. But sure, it is probably still easier before putting on the corset. :)
J Sheridan it's actually for both. different shoe types will change the way you stand, which changes the shape the corset needs to accommodate. putting a corset on before a pair of shoes that require those adjustments can cause abrasions, sores, uncomfortable imprints, and strip bruising.
@@JudyCZ Isn't also this "fashionable" type of corset not the most useful to her medical condition? It might stabilize her a bit, but squishing her to hard in the middle, reducing blood circulation and being more of a retro "health device" (at most), that modern doctors wouldn't recommend (anymore). I think, she would need a longer corset, covering also her breast cage to offer more stabilization.
I am wearing a corsett because of my scoliosis. And i can DEFFINETLY say, that I have less backpain since i have my lovely friend Miss Müller (yes. I gave it a Name. And yes i'm from germany) Before i had it, i couldn't walk for an hour in the City. I had to lay on the ground because of the pain. I didn't care AT ALL what other people Would think. I just couldn't stand, or walk or sit anymore. I am very thankfull, that I can live a more normal life now♥️ so i really can't understand when people say: oh. How poor you are😔 Poor? I have SO much luck!
As a person with scoliosis and interested in get a corset, I would like to ask some questions, if you don't mind: :D 1- How long has you been using it? 2- Is an asymmetrical corset? 3- Did it worked to prevent the scoliosis to progress?
Love this! I have scoliosis too actually. I wore a boston brace specifically designed for scoliosis, but similar to a corset for a year but then my curves got real bad and i had surgery a couple years ago. but i totally agree that it actually eased the pain! out of curiousity, is yours an actual traditional corset like in this video or is it more of a brace like hard plastic (or there are some that are soft) that has pads or whatnot to straighten the curve?
@@larissaoliveira7056 Lou would usually make a corset symmetrical, but for someone with a more-than-average-asymmetry, if that makes any sense, then that has to be changed a bit. You can see photos on the blog now of the corset laid out - the difference in panel sizes isn't noticeable but some of them are bigger than their opposite pieces. But that means that when it's worn, it produces more symmetry. Hope that makes sense :)
@@larissaoliveira7056 no i don't mind. Thank you for your question :) I got my corset in April 2019 and i'm wearing it 18-20 hours per day. Sounds much. But it isn't. It's a little bit weird and Also hard at the beginning. But it gets better. Jup. It's an asymmetrial corset. Sadly it doesn't look as beautiful as Jessica's😌😂 It worked. The curve of my chest block has worsened by a degree. The rest, however, has remained the same. Below it has even improved by a degree. I think the results are different for every person. Because it depends on the age, growth and mobility of the bones. However, it’s definitely better than without corset. I wish you a good Start with your corset and good results. All love♥️
@@raniaj8462 hi. I'm sorry, that your curves got that bad. I hope now that you had the surgery you're better. Sadly my corset isn't as pretty as Jessica's😂 I have, like you said, a brace made out of plastic. But i I’ve been thinking through the video, if when I’m older and don’t have to wear the brace anymore, if I can get a corset like she does. Against the pain. And i mean: it Looks very pretty😌
Me, seeing the title: now I need a Bernadette/Jessica collab Then you mention Bernadette's video. And everything is just a glorious amount of things I like.
catch me and my scoliosis taking notes and yeah big mood with the whole 'back pain for actual decades is boring' bc yeah i hit around my first decade since my spine decided to curve th wrong way and i'd like a refund.
Hello decade-of-back-pain-buddy! I don't technically know what's wrong with my back because no medical professional has ever *suggested* I get any diagnostic imaging. Thanks medical fatphobia....
@@lady14bug yeah im actually in the same boat lol. doctor was assessing my hypermobility only because i specifically said i'd been told by a chiro i was and he went 'oh you have a scoliosis. whatever' im still shocked none of my later docs have ever suggested imaging and i had a bit of a traumatic visit in my last one so im not eager to go back. other docs have been super skeptical that i can even *be* hypermobile bc im fat.
@@Hamster7678 I am on the borderline between superfat and infinifat (classifications courtesy @yrfatfriend on Instagram). Everyone is always shocked that I rarely struggle to touch my toes, but then I can't lie flat for more than 5 min without my back going into a full on revolt against my judgement. Medical professionals are shockingly oblivious of how bodies (all bodies) actually work. I'm actually working with a mental health coach specifically to help me work through my medical trauma and effectively advocate for myself. 36 years worth of BS to unlearn...
Education canceles Babys (dropping the average birth rate from average ~8(illiterate) to 0.4 (University) per woman) approximating the same 1.5-3 survival rate trough the "helper at the nest" model also indicated trough celibate and gay peoples nices and nephews)
@@yippeeflowers those didn't catch my attention, I don't want to edit this old posts either but would take any advice on dealing with dyslexia beyond algorithmic aid.
Your corset looks so nice. When you were trying on clothing you looked good both with and without, but the corset gives you that more "classic" shape you wanted and supports your back while doing it. There are literally no downsides to that situation
I love my corsets, and usually wear one when i know im going to be sitting on the computer all day. Also, Bernadette is AMAZING and everyone should go watch her video.
I think my favourite was Anna (That Star Wars Girl) repeatedly calling them "blessings" to avoid getting demonetized as she was discussing a bit of drama in the online community. 🤷♂️ I have often wondered if they offer additional impact protection to the torso (yeah, I know as a guy I should be having way more entertaining thoughts about them but I just don't think right 🤷♂️) but then, in an interview, Kate Beckinsale complained it was quite painful to be accidentally punched there during a film fight scene so have my doubts. Which in turn of course leads to the question of how nerve dispersal varies between the genders and individuals in the chest region and whether that sensitivity is purely down to gender, cup size, or something else. 🤔
@@daivahataka I'm no expert, but I heard some years ago that a study showed that man-nipples were more sensitive than woman-nipples. (I'm assuming the test subjects were all cisgender.) Speaking as a gal who nursed 3 kids well into toddlerhood, it makes sense that we'd be a bit less sensitive there. Babies accidentally bite, grab and whack. That said, any part that"sticks out" is more likely to be bumped into, which is ow. I don't know if this has been helpful...
Thinking about how many times I have heard specialists (then repeated by the GP) casually say oh you’re really hyper mobile as if it’s a small little things. The silky shorts are divine.
Thank you for dispelling the myths with corsets. Also the use of alternative phrases made me smile. I adore that you mentioned Bernadette Banner and Karolina. Abby Cox has a similar video on it, as she wore 18th Century stays everyday for 5 years.
Oh yeah i loved that show!! (Haven’t finished it yet tho...) Another good one to try out is the new “She-ra” series!!! Ligit EVERYONE is at least a little gay ❤️
As a physiotherapist who treats children with scoliosis, pregnant women and anyone with back pain, I am fascinated to know how much it helped with your pain. I know the scale of one to ten is annoying. Can you give me a percentage better?
Zero Waste Wiltshire as someone who both wears corsets for my back pain (incorrectly diagnosed with scoliosis, updated diagnosis of hypermobility type ehler's danlos syndrome) and who is now pregnant, i wish i could still fit in it! my pain tolerance means my 1 is another person's 3, so when i say a corset took the pain (and dislocations in the area!) down from a daily 7 at the end of the day to a 2 or even 0, i MEAN it! mine doesn't lace like jessica's, so i get the pleasure of carefully tweaking until everything feels good for that particular day. it's straight bliss!
as someone with the same "s" curve scoliosis it was very comforting to hear you talk specifically how it affects your body shape. ofc i know how it does, because i live with mine, but it's nice to have evidence you aren't the only one lol. lots of love !
I didn’t know that about having to break in corsets! I was thinking actresses find them uncomfortable because they’re often forced into not wearing them properly for ~sexy~ reasons Like, how often are we seeing corsets being laced onto bare skin? And how often are they being tightlaced for the drama and for the waistline?
Right!?! Like, they don’t need to be tight to get the shape! It’s in the layers and proper illusions! And I literally yelled at a corset place because they were telling people it was best to wear corsets directly on the skin and I was like “what are you doing!?!”
Kat The Nerdfighter not to mention, it’s not like the costume department has endless money- they aren’t going out and buying customer made RedThreaded or Prior Attire corsets for all their actresses! They’re putting most of them in cheap, mass manufactured modern style things, which means in order to get that waist reduction, they have to squish everything else because most modern corsets just aren’t made to have that sort of natural curve to them. They’re very straight, actually. No good, in my opinion.
CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 1:58 Body close-up 4:11 (I'm not sure what to call this part) 5:14 Getting a corset 9:06 Why corsets aren't bad 14:21 Reveal 15:04 Dancing in dresses 15:39 Why do actresses complain about corsets
I almost had scoliosis as a child, genetically I would’ve gotten it from my mother. The doctors spotted it (because I was at risk) before it was too severe and I was able to correct it without a brace, just by doing some regular exercises. Still, as I have posture and back pain issues to this day, and am not a huge fan of bras, I may consider a corset to help with that! Love this video
Sophiyams Aquitania Afraid nothing more than regular stretching. Mine was exacerbated by my posture and my heavy, one-shoulder messenger bag I used for a backpack in third grade. I’m not sure how well it would help scoliosis that is primarily genetically caused.
Okay but on the other hand: the Proper American Shade if combined forces with Proper English Shade the world would explode. ... On the other other hand, in 2020, world might explode anyway
I love that you mention two youtubers whose contents I enjoy watching a lot. I discovered your channel, I don't know, like, two or three years ago, only through a couple videos, then I lost it in the immensity of TH-cam, and now I'm rediscovering it, and while watching this particular video I actually had Bernadette and Karolina in mind. And now I'm off watching many other videos on your channel !
This video made me so happy. I have been wearing corsets for years to deal with chronic back pain as well as other health issues. They help SO MUCH! I often get judged for it and get lectures about it but I don't care. The pain relief is absolutely worth it and my doctors have assured me that I'm not harming myself in any way because I make a point of being safe about it. I'm so excited for you and am glad you are getting some much needed and deserved pain relief from your beautiful corset.
Prior Attire, in Buckinghamshire, is another fabulous resource for custom corsets. Izabela Pitcher makes some of the most goooorgeous historical garments and underthings I've ever had the privilege to see, and her Dressing Up series on TH-cam does an excellent job of showing all the layers that go into historical garments. More importantly, Izabela has done a video that shows exactly how much women counted on their corsets as comfortable and practical foundations for their clothing. I highly recommend the Prior Attire channel and videos if you're interested in learning more about historical garments. 😊
Agreed!! ❤️ My scoliosis looks a lot like Jessica’s but I feel compelled to hide my torso’s lumps and asymmetries beneath loose clothing. Doctors also thought I’d “grow out of it”(!????) lol. It’s nice to see someone with a body like mine looking great and wearing clothes so well.
This! I've struggled so much with my body and the fact that I have that exact same rib hump and clothes never fit right. (~40 degree curve in my lower back and 35 degrees right between my shoulder blades). But she pulls it off so beautifully.
@@m0_o552 I wouldn't have noticed them, if she wouldn't have pointed at them. I'm sure it's painful, but otherwise feel free to wear nice clothes. I'm sure there is something for you out there, that fits you nicely. If you have difficulties just try looking for other styles like higher waist, dresses, adjustable clothes like those for maternity and breast feeding etc.
This is so so interesting! Halfway through the video I remembered that growing up in italy, it was really not a big deal for teens to be prescribed (for free) medical corsets, to alleviate early signs of scoliosis or back pain. It's a different word from the word for a lingerie corset, so I truly didn't realise it was actually the same thing! Only realised when you linked the other video. Not a big deal at all and never questioned by adults, children, men or women in society, just a random medical device, like wearing braces on your teeth
I wore a corset almost daily to university during my first few years. I was unknowingly using it to manage my various back issues. My scoliosis is fortunately quite mild so I can buy an off the shelf corset. I absolutely could not have gotten through those first few years of uni without my corset usage - it kept me upright, the pressure and compression is soothing and helped with sensory overload. I have a few corsets at different cuts (over yet, underbust, cinch, etc). Kept my ribs in place, supported my wobbly spine, and really I have no idea how I would have survived without my accidental corset love. Years later my doctor noted it and was like it’s as good as a back brace for my purposes and needs and encouraged i use it. I hope your corset is so lovely and comfortable
It's amazing to see you so happy with your corset! I dont have scoliosis, but I do have back pain and weakness from a car crash. Being part of the steampunk community was a lifeline for me. Even though none of my corsets were custom made, the amount of relief they gave me was indescribable! I cant stand to hear a bad word uttered about corsets, especially by people who are completely ignorant of their importance and their history! I find the biggest problems people find with corsets (from my 5 years in the steampunk community) are that they dont know how a corset is supposed to be correctly worn and laced (wear something under! Stop tight lacing! Please do a cursory google such!) and buying the wrong shaped corset for their bodies (yes there are different shapes! Some shapes are going to work better due to your bone structure and weight distribution! Stop hurting yourselves goddamnit!)
I've been geeking out over historical fashion for quite a while and you busting corset myths makes my nerdy heart happy! I definitely recommend Bernadette Banner's videos for those interested in 19th century corsets!
I'm making a supportive corset for an EDS friend (who doesn't have scoliosis, but does have serious back pain and difficulty supporting her spine) and this video was so helpful - specifically for that little waist tape that allows the corset to be tightened! That is an amazing idea. I'm stealing it. Also the fact that they didn't offer you a medical support corset for at least part time wear is. Is. Well. Training to be a physiotherapist as a person with disabilities is a truly enlightening experience! And by enlightening I mean rage-inducing! I have yelled out loud at my laptop while reading research papers before and I am taking some deep breaths now, because sometimes you get a physiotherapist who is delightful and knows exactly what they're about, and....sometimes you get people who give my friends exercises that are so obviously inappropriate for them that even a PE teacher could probably tell! It's a mixed bag.
When you say "Hello Lovely People!" at the beginning of your videos I get a rush of dopamine and happy stimming :) Thanks for immediately making my whole day so much better!
1:55 Did I pause the video to go and put my pearls on so I could clutch them as requested? Yes. Yes I did. A new Jessica video requires my FULL commitment to the bit!
Jessica is so lovely. Idk how anyone leaves her hate. Her general outlook is so refreshing and her accent is the pretty bow on top. Read this comment in that pleasant accent bc that’s the voice I heard in my head while typing. So glad you’re feeling better 💜
@@alicebourne7681 I promise I'll be nice to the candidates. Can't promise I'll be nice regarding production if they're the reason it was such a bad experience...
She got such a raw deal during that show, I'm not surprised she's still a bit traumatised about it. I was recently diagnosed and coming to terms with my sexuality at the time, so I adored her from the start, and the scorn she got from other models and the judges about her invisible disabilities made my heart ache for her
I'm a cosmetologist, and often wear my over bust corset for 5-8 hours at a time while at work, and it's the best thing for back-pain relief/prevention. And the side-effect of my mounds of joy being more prominently displayed has absolutely *no* effect on the amount of tips I'll make in a day😎😄
I recently discovered your channel and clicked because as a ginger who loves vintage dresses, I saw a kindred spirit. I’m learning so much. It never occurred to me that my underwire digs in on that side because that’s where my spine curves. So obvious, but since I inherited this scoliosis from my Dad, who got it from his Dad. . . I got very little advice about bras and spine curvature. I thank you for what I have learned so far and what I have yet to learn from you. XOXO -Vintage Ginger in Chicago.
Ever since Carrie, I've been referring to my milk sacks as "Dirty Pilllows." Taataas, are my second choice. Your plethora of alternative designations are delightful.
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"Pregnancy squishes your organs too, but no one is trying to cancel babies"
Best sentence ever
Not really. While there are wide ranging impacts on body and health from pregnancy, using this line to dismiss all criticisms against corsets is a bit vapid. While there are plenty of beneficial applications of corsets to even benefit peoples health, there are also plenty of concerns, especially with too tight lacing as it happened in the past for fashion reasons. Are corsets the devil? No. Are they sometimes (were often) connected to health risks? Yes. Just like with so many things they are good or even beneficial in moderation, but can also be very destructive.
www.rcseng.ac.uk/library-and-publications/library/blog/effects-of-the-corset/
@@carpediem5232 Women back then didn't tight lace their corests. Yes, there were some upper class (rich & aristocratic) ladies that did but it's only because they didn't have to work. Upper class ladies only would have done so because they were really strict fashionistas. The funny thing is, tight lacing was seen as immoral, just as not wearing a corset was.
@@carpediem5232 1) Jessica is not talking about tight lacing (which only very rich women did and even then not regularly)
2) nothing useful can be gained from quoting doctors of the 19th century as the average 12 year old knows more about medicine than them
... I'm trying to cancel babies
@@eddie9420 Women back than didn't lace there corsets, but women who didn't have to work did. I specifically pointed out that there are more parts to consider when talking about corsets as a whole. The exaggerated stereotypes are wrong, but so is generalizing that corsets are just fine in all cases.
You and Karolina uploading corset content within hours of each other is a thing of purest beauty ♥️
(also, that pokey rib thing is *real*, and not-straight Scoliosis puns do not ever get old. 😁)
Oh my! It's Bernadette!
You are just an amazing woman, thank you for all of your content! Especially the recent zoom sessions including the one concerning disability and costume making.
I owe all of you historical and vintage fashion lovers so much, it has brought me a sewing hobby, new style, pockets and now possible back pain relief. I had been questioning saving up and buying a corset but now am fully convinced! And it might even relieve the back and shoulder pain I have due too the two “melons” on my chest. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Between you and Lady Donner, I am most seriously considering a corset as my foundation garment. May you and His Lordship Cesario fare well on this day, Lady Banner!
Lol
Jessica mentioning Bernadette Banner made my little heart scream with glee.
And Karolina!
Me too!!
ME TOO!! ❤️⭐️❤️⭐️
Yes,and Karolina!
Me too
Jessica: “dresses look strange on me.”
Also Jessica: a freaking gorgeous vision in so many beautiful dresses.
In that sparkly blue she looked like Cinderella and oh my God
Seriously gorgeous. When she did the reveal with the corset and non-corseted side by side I lost track of which was which. She looks lovely no matter what. I thought they both looked great. But regardless it all matters if she’s comfortable and feeling Relief from her pain a bit.
I know right?! She's freaking gorgeous!
WAIT BECAUSE..?!!!
@@TheDeerhunter316 I thought of Sleeping Beauty, but now I'm thinking Sleeping Beauty/Cinderella crossover!
“How did you know you weren’t straight?”
*looks at curved spine*
*looks at camera*
Obligatory Karolina Zebrowska reference:
*My corset cut me in half. I died. And I had to be resurrected.*
Didn't it also burn down the house?
« Wearing a corset was the most painful experience in my life. And I’ve had three children »
She is a goddess 😍
One thing I hear people neglect often in the “actresses hate corsets” argument is that filming days are very long, often upwards of 12 hours, so wearing a tight, ill-fitting corset with nothing underneath for that length of time would be enough to make anyone uncomfortable I think. (Although in the grand tradition of theatre I think some exaggeration is involved lol) :) Anyway, you look lovely as always and I’m loving that corset for you!!
Costuming also makes the clothes look good, not to be functional. They often make them from synthetic (hot) materials, because it cuts down from the budget. Imagine all those layers, and nothing breathes or fits well.
I imagine it would be like wearing new combat boots without socks all day long
Especially with tight movie deadlines, or letting the corset be broken into. Not to mention the corsets are probably made with cheap, synthetic fabrics and could lead to fainting due to overheating from a bad corset.
Since working in the movie industry as a costume maker, I have noticed that most of the complaints can also be attributed to ones posture and habits. We , as a 'modern' society, are not used to the rigide posture and layering of earlier times and feel uncomfortable being bent , 'weighted down' and forced into unfamiliar postures for hours on end. That, and some people just over grown babies that can't stand anything more constraining than jeans and T-shirts XD
@serendipidus1 I'm sorry if my comment gave you the impression that I did not care for the comfort of the actors. That was not at all my intentions, and I apologize. What I ment is some of the discomfort might also come from the wearer being 'forced' into postures due to 'periode accurate' cut for instance early period tops would force your shoulders back for posture sake and out of the habit of the time. I would never neglect someone's need or comfort for aesthetic sake nor would I blame them for it. Period cloth are not kind to modern stance if you are not used to it.
And than they are people that don't even want to wear the periode cloth for a period piece (not even with periode accurate underwear), and make you question your carriere choices.
OH, I am so HERE for this corset content! My own mounds of joy love the support 😁
Oh! A Morgan Donner!
The whole gang’s really come together in this comment section/video
As a cisgender man who has spent years exercising to slowly...slowly...fix issues with pokey-outey ribs and postural issues:
**** it, maybe it's corset time!
They have men’s corsets in the style of vests! I haven’t seen too many reviews or looked too closely at the vendors, but I’ve always thought they were beautiful. I wish you the best of luck in your hunting!
I’ve been looking into my own rib flare through the years and there are some medical braces just for your ribs. Corsets are more meant to help your back whereas the braces focus on the ribs.
However, people with rib flare have posture issues (like yourself),so I, personally, like a nice corset over the braces as it’s a 2 birds 1 stone ordeal.
You're great :)
Go for it. I like corsets alot. They help with backpack and anxiety. I am a man with PTSD and the tight hugging on my middle is wonderful for both.
I recommend it. Even if it doesn't completely fix the problem it still feels good
15:40 I remember Megan Fox talking about how she didn’t mind wearing a corset in film, and that she actually kind of enjoyed it. But, everyone hated everything she said back then, so it was received as expected...
She has been treated so poorly
Which movie does she wear a corset in?
Yeah i still have no idea why everyone hated her.
@@NeverKissSomeFrog123 I'm guessing Jonah Hex.
It always annoys me when people make the assumption that corsets are only for tight lacing. Corsets were basically a glorified bra and shapewear combined. They smoothed out the way dresses or other garments lay on your body, giving the smooth, crisp look.
cool
Yeah, since I started wearing corsets daily, I get that question a lot. Like, I can breathe, and sing, just fine in my corsets! I’m not lacing tight, and the only reason tight lacing is mentioned as much as it is in the time period is because it was highly controversial, like the diets of models are highly controversial. And while I wear off-the-rack corsets, I took my time getting used to it, and found great relief in my back pain caused by an accident since I started them! Also, the fact that I can breathe easier in a corset than a bra baffles people.
To be fair tightlacing is severely damaging. They even found indentations of the ribs on the livers of women who did it. There were also cases of women breaking ribs/puncturing lungs and such. Not to mention there were other issues with lung damage and heart problems. But yeah if you wear them properly they aren't bad at all 😊
Yeah the only ones that make people faint were the ones in the 18th and 19th century that bent people's bodies into an S shape and the ones that were laced far too tight for words! But I'd think that if you had one laced to the correct point and the right size you wouldn't just collapse
Yes, there were corsets for pregnant women too, which were more like a bra and not shaping anything else.
I always feel bad for the actresses who end up giving interviews about how miserable their corsets were. Like how awful to have to do your job in a garment that is actively hurting you just because nobody bothered building an extra week into the schedule so you can get a halfway decent fitting in.
And if you notice, almost all of them are wearing their corsets on bare skin!! The costumers werent given allowance to make even the plainest slip for the actresses to wear under their corset, which has to be excruciatingly uncomfortable
@@insidiouschaos812 yeah. And they weren't probably even wearing like a strapless thing under it.
They probably assumed this was normal, not knowing it would not be painful if it fit right. So they never asked for it to be changed.
That's so shitty. I'm a stage performer and even as a student, our costumers paid a lot of attention to finding, if not making, undergarments for period costumes that worked for each of us. My sophomore year, the lead costumer even lent me stays she'd made for herself because none of the ones on hand would fit! I can't believe that film costumers are so lackadaisical.
@@auditoryeden dont get me wrong i dont blame the costume department for director's choices/funding options, in theatre at least i know costuming is chronically understaffed and underpaid for the amount of work that goes into things, i wouldnt be surprised if film is the same way
Bernadette Banner has a briliant video about historical coursets and how she made her own because she also has scoliosis but her esthetic is totally Edwardian witch so one is kind of required
Yes, instantly thought of that! th-cam.com/video/rExJskBZcW0/w-d-xo.html
(edit: I don't know why I would ever assume that historynerd! Jessica would ever not do her homework, or that she doesn't watch Karolina and Bernadette)
@@cobwebsandcathair5874 I did too!
I feel like Bernadette Banner and Cathy Hay would get along wonderfully with Jessie hahah
Yes, good idea to link for anyone who hasn’t come across Bernadette historically factual video!
Oops I didn't see this before I commented! but me too!
Always so wonderful to see scoliosis representation on the internet! I had two curves of 60-something and 40-something degrees before I had a spinal fusion 7 years ago, now they're around 30 degrees each. Finding well-fitting clothes and underwear has been the bane of my life, it really affects your body confidence when everything is just a little wonky.
Georgia Marie i under how you feel I was so excited to see this I as well have scoliosis and had surgery we the rods fused I was curved at a full 90 degree angle and my doctor said the surgery was a matter of life and death for me so it was huge to say the least that being said I get so excited when scoliosis is properly represented
i have a 9 degree curve LOL
For those who have had the fusion surgery, do you find you have limited movement or some exercises that you're not able to do now. And or more or less pain? My parents keep nagging at me to get fusion surgery but I am extremely lucky to only get pain when I over exercise and pull something. I get achey a lot but not a lot of sharp pain considering my curved are 54/45 I feel very fortunate. So for me I'm not sure if the surgery will be worth it? I'd love to hear people's thoughts because I don't know anyone else with scoliosis and I've never had the chance to talk to other people about it so I'm just a tad excited to see scoliosis mentioned and explained in this video
@@lauragibbons1951 Hey, I have a fused spine and I’m a dancer & aerialist. Yes I do have some limitations on how far my back can bend and how far I can twist, but these are in general minor: I was able to get my arabesque parallel to the floor to the floor again, I would label lying on my stomach and pushing my chest off the floor until my arms are fully extended as no problem and doing a bridge as possible but difficult. Outside of dance/etc. I don’t have mobility limitations that affect daily activities in a way that’s really noticeable. That said, that is all specific to my particular body. I have a partial fusion and I had a slightly less severe S-curve than you, if you would be getting more or different vertebrae fused your mobility limitations might be completely different (I would recommend talking to your potential surgeon, they might not be able to tell you definitively which vertebrae will be fused but they’ll likely be able to give you a general picture of the length and placement of your fusion). I decided to have my fusion because I had a lot of pain, the muscles in my back almost always hurt some and I would have very bad spasms, the surgery didn’t eliminate my back pain entirely but it did reduce it a lot. It was worth it for me but there are definitley a lot of cons too, the recovery was long and difficult and it took a lot of training to get the flexibility I have now. I also had an awesome surgeon who was able to straighten my spine while leaving my more mobility than I might have had otherwise. My surgery improved my life quite a bit and even though it sucks that I can’t do the contortion tricks I could before, it’s worth it to feel stable in my body and be able to carry a backpack agony-free. But it’s not worth it for everybody and as long as you don’t need the surgery for health reasons (like your spine is compressing your lungs or something), not doing it is a totally valid choice. Hope this helps!
@@Phebe_Lace Hey, that's really helpful, thank you for sharing your experiences with me. I also used to do pole and hoop until last year when I had a motorbike accident (not serious, just took some recovery and then I got out of the habit and then pandemic). I am fully aware the experience is different for everyone because of placements of curves and so on but it's still insightful for me to hear others experiences! And thank you for the comment about it being a valid choice not to get surgery. I struggle with this most because the people around me pester me about surgery, I got refused PIP (I have more than just scoliosis) but one thing they said was they wouldn't give me money because I wouldn't get the surgery so basically implying that it can't be that bad 🙄
Anyway, thank you for being kind and sharing 😊
I’ve never seen a bra without underwire look so flattering and supportive. I need that bra in my life.
I was thinking the same thing!
Agreed. Where did it come from?
My goodness yes! It’s both beautiful AND does its job. It’s a miracle and I need twenty.
@@rayebowen3420 I'm guessing it was a custom made? Or home sewn? Wait. Im talking about the bra in the beginning when she's going over her spinal issues. Are yall talking about the bra during her fitting? That one looks like Victorias secret
@@brandielee7971 the one in the beginning.
All the different euphemisms for breasts was just delightful. My favorite is ‘sweater kittens’.
or sweater puppies
Left is kitten right is puppy..... are they a bundle?
It just makes me think that there are actual kittens hidden in the shirt, which sounds delightful
mine I call shoulder boulders, but then I'm around a 40F...
"the girls" is another name. :)
Americentric sounds like the kind of word I’m not using but should be.
This channel astounds me with the amount of interesting facts randomly appearing.
As a Canadian living next to the most powerful and capricious nation on earth, I find constant use for the term.
@@wynnew.h5245 mm
I'm just glad there's a word for it! As an American I'm tired of our obsession with ourselves
@@caitlinjopepe541 😁 awesome, we're sure tired of it too
words are created by humans so just make any word you like and if people like the word it will spread 👌🏻🤓
As an American who speaks with many people all over the world, I know I can find Americancentric turning into a common word in my vocabulary.
Jessica, Karolina, and Bernadette... are these my “vintage dress” Holy Trinity? [quite probably] 🙌🏻♥️👑✨
They are mine! And Micarah when I’m drunk.
@@cloerosesmith you just literally described me too😂😍
Flo Smith Hahaa, right?! I love her chaotic, spastic energy. And her “measurements,” a la “cut out a hunk of fabric roughly the size of an American Girl doll’s headboard” lol
That girl is something else...
@@cloerosesmith that's perfect 🤣
Check out Morgan Donner and Rachel Maksy too. They're amazing and Bernadette actually did a collab video with them where they switched hairstyles.
Speaking as an actor- The last show I did which required a corset was a very heavy going musical, with multiple, very quick costume changes. The corset I was given as my "base" corset was the first one out of the pile that fitted. Note, this was a big-budget, professional show. The shoes I wore were provided on day one of the rehearsals; the corset arrived with less than two weeks before opening night. So not a lot of time to break it in.. That and the costume mistress remarked on day 1 of tech (tech: the technical rehearsal period where lighting and sound timings are marked in) that I didn't have the right silhouette for the period and demanded that it be laced tighter.
I also had a second corset that I had to put on for another character, and because of time constraints in costume changes, meant for about 30 minutes of act one, I was wearing two corsets, three shirts, a coat, a petticoat, bustle, a heavy woolen skirt, hosiery, leggings, whilst in 5-inch heels, a full wig and makeup. Now, there's no aircon in most theatres, and if there is it's generally aimed at the audience, not the stage. We rehearsed from 9am to 6pm every day, with a cast of 20 singing and dancing, and also a full tech crew, and an onstage 6 piece band. It was 34 degrees outside all week, but 43 degrees indoors. Horrific doesn't quite cut it.
With all of this combined, I was almost constantly struggling to breathe, and at one point did almost pass out on stage (but thankfully did not). It cooled down massively for the actual run of the show (thank goodness!) and I got used to adjusting my breathing to allow for the corset(s)
So when actors complain about corsetry, it may seem melodramatic, but the goings-on behind the scenes generally tell of a most basic misunderstanding of how corsets work, and an expectation of just "dealing with it". Because everyone expects you to be uncomfortable, no-one even considers that it could be anything but.
TL:DR- Actors really aren't to blame about their corset complaints, they don't really get a choice in how it's made or worn.
OMG that was horrifying. I would never have survived that! I am in awe that you did.
I wear a corset every day lol
@@skylerchan7746 I think he means wearing it for hours while using your voice/lungs excessively under hot and harsh lights.
He didn't deny that people can wear it daily under their own wish so idk how commenting this added anything to contradict or even argument his comment.
@@skylerchan7746 right?! Plus the op said they wore 2 which is insane even when TRYING to waist train! I wear 1 also but just 1. Too bad they wasted & ruined the ops first experience.
@@BBaaaaa I think it was wearing the 2 at a time that was extreme, painful & overboard especially for someone not wanting to change their body. Feel bad for them because I wear 1 and if it's done responsibly and correctly it just feels like a comfortable bear hug really. I can only imagine how horrible the op felt under those conditions 😭Shame some people are forced to endure pain just to do a job they love!
Another possibility for men coming against anything a woman needs: cost. Guys have a tendency to think women overspend and don't have needs. It may be a stereotype but it has been seen often enough in my family.
It's pretty common everywhere. Ironically women are also overcharged for the same things of course but there's this idea everything beyond survival is superfluous if a woman enjoys it - as well as everything women doing being for men.
oh, it is definitely a thing.
"Guys have a tendency to think women overspend and don't have needs"
That was certainly true of my first husband. Part of the reason why I divorced him.
The Tons of People With Backpain:
*WE MUST RISE*
@KokoNuma lol i have a weak core and hyper mobility syndrome and thats the reason for my back pain 😬
Pharmacy: stonks
*WE MUST SIT*
I have an incomplete spinal cord injury with some skeletal issues and bone spurs.
It was really cool seeing her release this, as I making my own corset and didn't want to take off my last mock up because it helped my back pain so much!
Slowly and carefully
I’m such a fan of Catherine! Thank you for bringing attention to modern medical/ therapeutic corsetry, it's a huge passion of mine.
Jessica, if you ever read this - as you wear your corset more, do make note of whether it also improves the symptoms of your POTS symptoms, it would be wonderful to note.
Also! The whole urban myth of corsets causing "livers to cut in half" was very likely just early observations of Riedel's lobe, which an accessory lobe that close to 20% of the population are naturally born with. It's important to take Victorian medical reports with a grain of salt, considering that physicians and coroners were initially concerned and confused by the earliest X-rays showing that the position of the organs of living patient standing up was a tad different from the position and shape of organs of a dead body lying supine. ;)
Lucy's Corsetry ❤️ this type of crossover was one I only thought possible in my dreams!
In my experience, a corset has helped me with my POTS (I have scoliosis and HSD as well)! On days where I have to stand for extended periods, or sit and stand a lot, I’ve found that wearing a corset helps a bit with the dizziness, but not a lot. Compression socks have been more helpful for me, as have compression shirts! (Gymshark, surprisingly, has some good compression shirts for shockingly... decent prices)
Lucy's Corsetry but we're a talking in 2020!
Sorry but in 1920 CORSETS WERE BAD, I'm serious because ok the large people are wearing now but AREN'T victorians!
Are different, stop, sorry but they didn't eated because they were thicc...at least ok if we've talking about medium class but fashion were different, in important occasions they should wearing corsets thicc!
Also many of them died...for the actress I doubt effectively is corset's fault but ISN'T like victorian era, please.
What is told about it is true, a lot...
I read after the end, you are right...i think is dangerous say was okay! Modern is but victorian's was horrible! Who tried it didn't really, it was different
@@Yep6803 have you considered that if so many Victorian women were dying due to corset-wearing, there wouldn't be any women alive to have babies & the population would take a major hit? Go check population records. Narry a spike nor a canyon except due to famines & epidemics. That kinda data is the only proof available because, surprise, no one alive today lived back then.
I sometimes call my 'mounds of joy' or 'melon lights'
'chest demons'
"Pillows for friends!" and I prefer the term "Chest-icles"
I had a girl call mine bazanga then bazookas. Weirdest complement ever.
I tend to think of them as two hairless cats who sit on my chest and make my life generally hotter, sweatier and more annoying (and more painful) than necessary.
I, for one, will use "chest demons" to refer to mine from now on.
"Chest demons" is my new favorite thing and I might use that in reference to a character I wrote up for a DnD lmao
(yes I'm a trans guy playing a trans character. It's mostly for fun and calico cats are gorgeous)
I was seriously silent screaming at my computer with my arms in the air when you said they wouldn't give you a therapeutic brace. I'm floored. I was a hardcore structural massage therapist for twelve years, until injury and possibly fibro (trying to figure that one out...) forced me to retire. Scoliosis and correcting spinal curves was one of my specialties. There is a brilliant man named Eric Dalton, who you might want look into. His work changed my life professionally. He did a study following a young girl and the improvement of her curvature following a series of massages.
That being said Corsets are brilliant when made for you. I find mine relieve back pain, bad posture, and sooth my severe anxiety. I'm so excited for you. Also, your new corset is lovely! Congratulations and thank you for making this video.
How do corsets help with anxiety? Would love to know as I have horribly severe anxiety
@@user-bj7em4fv1p Hi! I'm so sorry, anxiety is the worst.
So the principle is the same as thunder jackets for dogs or swaddling a baby to calm it. It puts pressure on the nervous system interrupting the anxiety process, or at least that is my experience of it. It also corrects posture and it has been found that where the body goes the mind will follow and vise versa. So with a more upright and more open posture, the mind tends to be more open and uplifted.
I find that when I wear my corsets in stressful situations: I can think clearer, am more confident, and feel more in control. I tend to feel like if I let go I will fly apart and I can't when I am laced in. It is as if it gives me something to relax against. (as a note, I am most likely ASD, working on diagnosis, so mileage may vary)
If you do decide to start corseting: get/make a corset that fits properly, start loose (you can always adjust later), wear a linen or cotton camisole under it (corsets never go against your skin), and go slow. Give yourself time to adjust. The muscles in your back and chest need time to relax into the new posture. If you rush it, you won't enjoy it and more likely to give up on corsets, so just be compassionate with yourself and your body. But once you have acclimated to a corset you will find you are less likely to hurt your back during daily activities, having good posture will become effortless, and the mind will follow your head and chest into a more open and uplifted disposition.
I hope this is helpful and that you are able to find ways to tackle your anxiety.
Good Luck!
@@user-bj7em4fv1p There’s a cheap Kindle book of testimonials about therapeutic corsetry, edited by Lucy Williams: “Solaced: 101 true stories of corsets, well-being, and hope.” Maybe a dozen entries mention anxiety-reduction. It’s at www.amazon.com/Solaced-Uplifting-Narratives-Corsets-Well-Being-ebook/dp/B01FCT4BW6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=solaced&qid=1606102105&s=books&sr=1-1
@@lieselemay seems the same principle of weighted blankets, wow.
@@valerianaranjocruz25 It does serve a similar purpose. A weighted blanket you can wear. lol. Consequently, I also love my weighted blanket. Chills my brain out.
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate that there are captions as soon as the video is out :) It's really useful for so many, not just deaf people.
Seconded. I finally admitted that I have some minor hearing loss and started using the captions on TH-cam videos all the time. Suddenly my need to constantly rewind videos to hear what people are saying mysteriously disappeared. Also sometimes I just want to eat chips (crisps) when I’m watching videos.
Yes, agreed.
And as a foreigner it's super useful to have subtitles for new words/idioms I had never heard before
Yes, she inspired me to put captions on my history of science videos and I’m so glad I did. I’m working on my back catalogue but it’s important and as you said not just for people who are deaf.
@@Kathy_Loves_Physics that's great! I find it to be soo much easier to follow educational videos if they have captions, I can easily jot down the words I'm unfamiliar with without needing to rewind the video several times to sus out the hopefully correct spelling. It's a real time saver and makes it easier to learn new concepts and to do more research about the topic on my own.
The fact that the word Americentrist refers to the USA and not America as a whole makes the word itself Americentrist and I'm 👁️👄👁️
That is because most people are referring to the US as America and therefore Americans for their inhabitants (and americentrist). I'm "American" as live on the continent, but am certainly not from the US. In French we can refer to États-Uniens for people living in the US. 🤷🏽♀️
@@sage4365 I honestly didn't realise that a was a hot topic until recently. People are saying that the U.S had claimed the word "American" for themselves. But like.... they're the only country with America in their name so I fail to see the problem.
@@sage4365 yes, in Spanish they're estadounidenses, I never in my life said American as a adjective that meant "from the us", it's cringy
Sage People do refer to themselves as their continent, actually, such as people being called Asian, European or African when referring to many of the countries in the continent, instead of just one. Then you also have the fact that people call themselves latinoamericans or hispanoamericans, that’s a thing that happens. I live in Mexico and we call people who live in the US ‘estadounidenses’ since they are from the United States
@@Mrdbz1000 the fact that it's the only country without it's own proper noun as a name shouldn't mean that everyone else in the continent of America can't refer to themselves as American without others confusing it with US. It wouldn't be a problem if media and the whole western culture wasn't Americentrist too.
The whole segment about how we've been lied to about corsets and the shout outs to Karolina and Bernadette made me squeak with joy! 😍 And I'm so happy that the beautiful corset really helped you. Such a great video.
When you said back pain became boring... girl you finally put words on what I've felt for the past 10 years !!
I'm getting a breast reduction soon I cannot wait for these peach orbs to go
That blue/silver dress Jessica tried on was gorgeous and sparkly and wow. Also can't get over all the euphemisms for breasts lmao "mounds of joy"
I'd never made the connection between women's rights movements, male ridicule of women's fashion and the fact that the fashion was made by women resulting in lost business for those women. Mind blown! Thanks Jessica! You changed my whole perception of the switch to bras in the early 20th century.
same tbh! i really love reading about the suffrage movements (specially in europe since i live here) but never even read about that connection.... but it's so logical and apparent now to me....all the good little facts you learn via Jessica's vids is what i live for
It makes me wonder if the bra burning movement of the 60s and 70s was really a plot for men to see titties bouncing.
Also much of the "corsets are bad hur de hur" came from a doctor who was talking about a specific kind of corset and claiming that it was terrible and that instead, women should buy his new health corset. So it wasn't even them saying that they're all bad, it was just shit talk about another brand basically!
Another doctor tried to prove that corsets were dangerous only to find that on average, all his female patients (all wearing corsets) well outlived their male counterparts who did not, and who had none of the issues he was trying to claim corsets could cause. When you compare his findings to modern day mortality statistics, its pretty much the same thing - women outlive the men. Which basically shows that the general effects of wearing a corset didn't change things one way or another.
Much of the switch to bras as opposed to corsets was due to WW1. There were adverts put out asking women to donate the steel from their corsets, and corset production pretty much slowed to a stop so that the steel could be diverted to munitions. Same with any silk that would have gone to making corsets, instead that went to make parachutes. So women would often keep boning from one corset and put it in another they made in order to keep the support when they couldn't buy new ones. And then there is the style of corsets which people were wearing during WW1 - the longer corsets which went from just beneath the bust to over the hips. That style was a lot less forgiving in terms of flexibility (the boning stopped at the hip, but the fabric went to mid thigh). The shape was becoming more straight up and down rather than emphasising large hips and a nipped in waist and the bust was fashionably kept in a lower pigeon breast position. By that point the corsets were being worn with separate bust supporters. So it makes an awful lot of sense that if you're going to go work in a factory that involves clambering around, you don't want leg restrictions. And if steels are in short supply, it wouldn't make sense to wear a long style of corset. But as there is a war on, there's not really as much time for coming up with new styles, so just wear the bust supporter bit. If the corset style had been shorter - and focused more on the bust support that the earlier styles had, and the steel hadn't been requisitioned, then you'd have probably had a lot more people keeping wearing corsets. Though people did still continue to wear them after the war and they never really fully went away. Some people switched to girdles, those who loved the older style or were into corsets as a fetish thing did have people to order from still. There was the New Look revival, then Goths, Punks and other alternative subcultures added them to their wardrobes in the late 70s and 80s. And then they've been in and out of mainstream fashion ever since that. And nowadays there are tons of corsetieres out there again.
And we were taught this in school... Not why - male propoganda! Just corset bad! Floofing mental what myths ‘education’ perpetuates.
@@themedia1271 I was thinking the same thing.😂
interesting way to deal with back pain... with a corset , makes sense, usually people wear a back brace which is a form of a corset lol outside the box thinking my dudette! very nice!
its basically a custom back brace!
@@sersastark correct :P
And I find more comfortable and adjustable than a traditional back brace! I bloat on my period and the fact that I can tighten or loosen depending on my body’s needs is wonderful!
@@danim3738 ya, that would be a good thing to be bale to do when your body is raging on the inside lol
My back brace for my spine fracture literally even tightened at the waist. I measured once out of curiosity and it took like 2 inches off when properly fitted. Not my goal ever but an interesting comparison.
Catherine's Kiss Me Deadly business posting the corset back and forth is honestly incredible. I adore this
This is actually pretty standard for any corsetiere where you can't come for fittings, though it does rely a little on the post working and also, ideally, good bandwidth :)
My mom really bullied me for my scoliosis. I slowly started to accept myself. But this here gave me a boost of confidence. It can be frustrating but I know that it's not the worst thing
I absolutely LOVE the way they've changed the direction of the pull on the straps, so that you pull forward to tighten rather than having to pull backwards away from your back (or needing to get someone else to do it putting their foot in your back lol). I've never seen that before!! Probably a big difference between corsets made purely for fashion and ones actually made for function and comfort. Would love it if you could do a follow up video on this a few months (or even a year) down the line to see how you're feeling in it in the long term.
I second that I would love to see a follow-up video. I also have scoliosis but don't have a ton of money and don't want to invest if it hasn't worked for others long-term.
@@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter I think you would need a medical corset or at least a longer one, that also covers the upper rip cage to give more stabilization.
This one reduces her blood circulation, which I don't think, is good!
As others mentioned, proper shoes are also important, as they change the posture of your hips and spine.
Depending on the damage of your bones etc you also might find some shoulder straps to adjust posture quite helpful. They, maybe, can help to strengthen back muscles and reduce the need of a corset.
But you should do some research, if those tips could help you.
Make also sure, you have a good mattress and pillow (good pillow on a horrible stiff mattress might not help), that fits your sleep habits and supports you.
And as a girl, a good supporting bra should also draw your attention. Maybe try out different ones (full covered in the back, crossed straps, strong but elastic lower band, sports bra, whatever feels good to you). Once it's safe again to go out in public. Until then you have a bit time for research!
You might not need all of these things, but it can help reduce your difficulties.
@@valek7700 wow, thanks for the in depth answer!
I am so happy you've brought up the misconceptions about corsets. I am very interested in historical fashion, and the amount of misinformation I've seen about them is staggering. Love to see the mention of Karolina and Bernadette as well!
Corsets, back braces or other "slimming" elastic undergarments have been able to help me & my mother's back pain but it took trying out a lot of the different shapes & styles to find the ones that fit us.
When I was 10 years old I was diagnosed with scoliosis. My curve was/is C shaped and located just above my waist. When it was found the doctor told my parents and me that I was two or three degrees away from having surgery to place rods and pins against my spine. Instead I was put into a fiberglass back brace that was shaped like, of all things, a corset. I wore it for almost two years. I went from having a 27 or 28 degree curve to a 3 degree curve. Can't believe that was almost 40 years ago.
Mine is S shaped, although once it went past 38° to 42° + in a matter of six or so weeks, my surgeon said there was no other option but to operate. This was done in --- the long since closed --- The Middlesex Hospital in Central London. Fortunately, I knew the surgeon already, as he had transfered from the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital, in Stanmore. Unfortunately, it was because my younger sister, too, has scoliosis, except her spine is more like a severe c shape ... I can tell you many a story about her ...
My operation was relatively simple: single rod, tied to the spine, no screws; plus a L1-L5 fusion. That was c. 1992, or thereabouts. Flash forward to early 2010s, and I began experiencing chronic pain. A CT and MRI later confirmed that the scoliosis remained stable. When I mentioned to the consultant that examined both of those that my surgeon was Mr. M. A. E. Edgar, a renowned spinal orthopaedic surgeon, he exclaimed "well, no wonder your scoliosis is stable, but we have no idea about the pain". That was St. George's Hospital, in Tooting. A referral to St. Thomas' in Westminster, and Kingston Hospital, revealed that I now have all the symptoms of progressive fibromyalgia, with absolutely no explanation as to why. So I live on a cocktail six kinds of painkillers including diazepam, morphine, and gabapentine. And a few years ago, literally about midday one day, me standing beside the ironing board, the very feint tinnitus I have always had that used to come and go since a child, erupted into full force. Now all I hear is continuous hissing and whistling sounds in both ears, with sometimes two different tones, at the same time, in the same ear ... which means my circadian rhythm is way out of wack, although certain ASMR tracks do actual help to 'counteract' that constant white noise ...
But that pales into comparison to what my sister went through ...
This comment is already long enough as it is, but if interested, I can tell you what I remember of what happened to her ...
[Edit: God, I can be so utterly selfish at times ...
It just so happened reading your comment caused a flashback to when I was diagnosed, and then seeing the rapid change in the x-rays. I can imagine that you went through something very similar, all those years ago, in 1979 (same year I had open heart surgery, aged 5). I know what you mean about the fiberglass courset, as mine was the same (wish my mum didn't throw it away, as I may well could do with it now ...). I can imagine it was a really painful to wear, as I can imagine it was incredibly restrictive. I could take off mine, as it had straps in the front, and sometimes left it off during the night, as sleeping in a hard, uncomfortable, and unforgiving shell was bad, but the pain could be bad enough, due to my mum scrimping on the mattress on my bed, I had to sleep with it on...
But what truly amazes me is that yours managed to change your scoliosis so drastically. Perhaps because you were still young that you were still growing. In my case, I was 18, or so, and even with Noonan's Syndrome, any growth would have slowed down by the age of 18 in 1992.
Still, yours is both an incredible, and remarkable story, and do please forgive me for hijacking it ...]
@@nigelft I have S-curve scoliosis, with pronounced lordosis in my lumbar and lower thoracic spine. It was found when I was 11-years-old. I'm not sure what my percentages are or even were then, but I do remember being told surgery to insert a rod around my spine was on the table.
I declined that particular treatment, as the fear of becoming paralyzed was entirely too much for my young mind, and apparently those of my parents' as well. Instead, I saw a chiropractor for many years. There was some success, but not enough to rid me of pain and spinal curvature.
Also, my cervical spine does not curve the right direction, but that has more to do with car accidents I was in than scoliosis, though it contributed. I was not the driver in any of those accidents, either.
As for the specific kind of tinnitus you're experiencing, I believe you may have Ménière's Disease. Please get checked out. I have it. The more advanced phases of the disease provide a wide variety of ringing sounds in the ear, along with whooshing, static, and various combinations of them all. The sudden bouts falling elevator vertigo, that switches to feeling like one is on a boat in rough seas, is just an added fun element to the B-movie horror film carnival ride that is Ménière's Disease. Oh, joy.
That’s wild!! I had the good fortune of having surgery and then ALSO having to wear a brace 🙄
I have the same type of scoliosis as you. I was diagnosed when i was 7 and used a corset until i got surgery at 10. Nothing really worked for me, and the curves are still there and they will always be. I used to hate my body so much because of my scoliosis. I felt ugly for so many years and thought that nobody would ever find me atractive. I'm 20 now and i feel so much better, and i've accepted my body; but my teenage years were a nightmare. I didn't even care about the pain anymore, i just wanted to have a normal body and feel pretty and not have to hide underneath loose clothes. Nobody around me really understood how much i hated my back. It feels really good to grow up and to understand that looks are not what matter the most. I don't know if anyone will ever read this but this video and your positivity towards this condition means a lot to me. I wish i could've seen something like this when i was younger. Thank you, Jessica
Me, a guy with back pain: "hmmm... i wonder how a corset would look on me..."
There are corset-makers who cater for the male figure. As a woman who sometimes uses a corset for back pain (although nothing on the level of Jessica's troubles) I can confirm that it's an avenue worth exploring.
It's worth a shot! You can get them fairly plain with simpler lacing. Im female but I wear mine over a cotton tank top and then put a regular shirt (v neck tee, simple light shirts) and no one can tell unless they go to hug me and feel the boning. The extra support is really helpful plus I always get a lot of "you look great!" From people when I wear mine bc I'm standing straighter.
They do exist! I've seen and spoken to a gentleman who was wearing one and he looked fantastic.
I am a male and back pain definitely motivated the purchase. It has been a few months now and I am still working through some issues with skin tags. The corset tears them to shreds and once gone, the skin is not quite the same and does not respond the same. The corset does not help with my back pain to the extent I hoped it would but it does help and it is amazing for your posture while sitting at a desk all day. I definitely like how it makes me feel though and my appearance does look better while wearing it if any of that is helpful.
Check out Timeless Trends in their Libra style. They cater to the male figure with bigger ribcage, so you can lace in more of an inverted triangle shape, and come in plainer fabrics :)
My American brain freaked out when Jessica started filming in the car and then I remember Brits drive on the other side of the road.
A lot of movies and games come from America, and you get used to seeing it after awhile.
Everyone drives the other side XD
Lol, now you know how we feel about Americans driving. With Love from Australian.
You look like a glorious 50s Disney princess in that blue dress.
yes I got Princess Aurora vibes too!
I can’t decide which I love more: the breast euphemisms or the call-outs to Karolina Zebrowska and Bernadette Banner.
"Pregnancy smooshes your organs around too, but no one is trying to cancel babies"
Oh my Goddess, YES PREACH!
I'm watching it while playing with my 10 month old daughter and she keeps waving at you and saying "eyyyy" :) so... I guess my baby wanted us to say hi to you :) and we're sending lots of love from Poland. Thank you for amazing content
“Mounds of Joy” 😂😂😂 The most lesbian thing I’ve ever heard! 🥰
Couldn’t click on this quickly enough!
I find corsets very comforting for my particular back pain. Better fitting and more durable than lots of back braces. I was also surprised to get a sort of squeeze box anxiety relief out of them too...
Thank you for this very personal dive into the topic.
Yesssss anything that compresses me soothes my anxiety so much, converse high tops, skinny jeans, tight long sleeves
I didn't expect to get emotional watching this but here I am crying away! I have scoliosis too (and a spinal fusion) and watching you talk about your own asymmetries while being so amazing and beautiful was wonderful and emosh! Thanks for making this video!! ♥️
i felt exactly the same way
I find it funny: you see all sorts of ads on TV and on the internet about back braces, spine correctors, you name it, and yet you mention the word corset you get weird looks. They're very similar yet one is shunned, dangit! I have a 12° curve which is as close to scoliosis as one can get without being scoliosis but those braces don't help. Might try a corset. Thanks for the video!
I used to have a corset brace. It was basically off the rack but professionally picked out & was ordered by my doctor. Covered by insurance too. Unfortunately it didn't help my low back because I needed a fusion due to bone rubbing on bone.
But it might help you more & only costs a couple hundred without insurance.
I actually wish I hadn't lost mine. I loved that it had 3 very easily adjustable straps I could adjust anywhere. Along with the front velco I often let out to sit down.
Don’t forget the rule Jessica: shoes BEFORE corset
Hahaha (thinking of shoes before scoliosis surgery)
It’s not for shape purposes - it’s coz it’s damn hard to put your shoes on after your corset - try putting shoes on after your corset and you’ll soon learn.
Surprisingly - not necessarily. Bernadette Banner recently made a video where she compared living in her medical corset and a victorian one and managed to put on shoes in both without many issues. She just had to use different movements. But sure, it is probably still easier before putting on the corset. :)
J Sheridan it's actually for both. different shoe types will change the way you stand, which changes the shape the corset needs to accommodate. putting a corset on before a pair of shoes that require those adjustments can cause abrasions, sores, uncomfortable imprints, and strip bruising.
@@JudyCZ Isn't also this "fashionable" type of corset not the most useful to her medical condition?
It might stabilize her a bit, but squishing her to hard in the middle, reducing blood circulation and being more of a retro "health device" (at most), that modern doctors wouldn't recommend (anymore).
I think, she would need a longer corset, covering also her breast cage to offer more stabilization.
I am wearing a corsett because of my scoliosis. And i can DEFFINETLY say, that I have less backpain since i have my lovely friend Miss Müller (yes. I gave it a Name. And yes i'm from germany) Before i had it, i couldn't walk for an hour in the City. I had to lay on the ground because of the pain. I didn't care AT ALL what other people Would think. I just couldn't stand, or walk or sit anymore. I am very thankfull, that I can live a more normal life now♥️ so i really can't understand when people say: oh. How poor you are😔
Poor? I have SO much luck!
As a person with scoliosis and interested in get a corset, I would like to ask some questions, if you don't mind: :D
1- How long has you been using it?
2- Is an asymmetrical corset?
3- Did it worked to prevent the scoliosis to progress?
Love this! I have scoliosis too actually. I wore a boston brace specifically designed for scoliosis, but similar to a corset for a year but then my curves got real bad and i had surgery a couple years ago. but i totally agree that it actually eased the pain!
out of curiousity, is yours an actual traditional corset like in this video or is it more of a brace like hard plastic (or there are some that are soft) that has pads or whatnot to straighten the curve?
@@larissaoliveira7056 Lou would usually make a corset symmetrical, but for someone with a more-than-average-asymmetry, if that makes any sense, then that has to be changed a bit. You can see photos on the blog now of the corset laid out - the difference in panel sizes isn't noticeable but some of them are bigger than their opposite pieces. But that means that when it's worn, it produces more symmetry. Hope that makes sense :)
@@larissaoliveira7056 no i don't mind. Thank you for your question :)
I got my corset in April 2019 and i'm wearing it 18-20 hours per day. Sounds much. But it isn't. It's a little bit weird and Also hard at the beginning. But it gets better.
Jup. It's an asymmetrial corset. Sadly it doesn't look as beautiful as Jessica's😌😂
It worked. The curve of my chest block has worsened by a degree. The rest, however, has remained the same. Below it has even improved by a degree. I think the results are different for every person. Because it depends on the age, growth and mobility of the bones. However, it’s definitely better than without corset.
I wish you a good Start with your corset and good results. All love♥️
@@raniaj8462 hi. I'm sorry, that your curves got that bad. I hope now that you had the surgery you're better.
Sadly my corset isn't as pretty as Jessica's😂 I have, like you said, a brace made out of plastic. But i I’ve been thinking through the video, if when I’m older and don’t have to wear the brace anymore, if I can get a corset like she does. Against the pain. And i mean: it Looks very pretty😌
Me, seeing the title: now I need a Bernadette/Jessica collab
Then you mention Bernadette's video. And everything is just a glorious amount of things I like.
catch me and my scoliosis taking notes
and yeah big mood with the whole 'back pain for actual decades is boring' bc yeah i hit around my first decade since my spine decided to curve th wrong way and i'd like a refund.
Hello decade-of-back-pain-buddy! I don't technically know what's wrong with my back because no medical professional has ever *suggested* I get any diagnostic imaging. Thanks medical fatphobia....
@@lady14bug same...10 doctors will be split halfsies on whether or not anything is wrong with my back.
@@lady14bug yeah im actually in the same boat lol. doctor was assessing my hypermobility only because i specifically said i'd been told by a chiro i was and he went 'oh you have a scoliosis. whatever' im still shocked none of my later docs have ever suggested imaging and i had a bit of a traumatic visit in my last one so im not eager to go back. other docs have been super skeptical that i can even *be* hypermobile bc im fat.
@@Hamster7678 I am on the borderline between superfat and infinifat (classifications courtesy @yrfatfriend on Instagram). Everyone is always shocked that I rarely struggle to touch my toes, but then I can't lie flat for more than 5 min without my back going into a full on revolt against my judgement.
Medical professionals are shockingly oblivious of how bodies (all bodies) actually work.
I'm actually working with a mental health coach specifically to help me work through my medical trauma and effectively advocate for myself. 36 years worth of BS to unlearn...
14:12 "Also pregnancy smooshes your organs around too but no one is trying to cancel babies"
It's time. Let's cancel babies.
Education canceles Babys (dropping the average birth rate from average ~8(illiterate) to 0.4 (University) per woman) approximating the same 1.5-3 survival rate trough the "helper at the nest" model also indicated trough celibate and gay peoples nices and nephews)
I’m in let’s go
fiona fiona can't take you seriously considering you're mentioning those who are illiterate and yet have not edited your "canceles" and "babys".
@@yippeeflowers those didn't catch my attention, I don't want to edit this old posts either but would take any advice on dealing with dyslexia beyond algorithmic aid.
That fan lacing on the try on corset is gorgeous and practical.
Your corset looks so nice. When you were trying on clothing you looked good both with and without, but the corset gives you that more "classic" shape you wanted and supports your back while doing it. There are literally no downsides to that situation
I'm loving that you and Karolina uploaded corset videos within an hour of eachother!
I love my corsets, and usually wear one when i know im going to be sitting on the computer all day.
Also, Bernadette is AMAZING and everyone should go watch her video.
VideoS! ALLLLLLLLLLL the videos. Bernadette is awesome.
Jessica: “I have to stop saying ‘breasts’, or this video will be demonetised! Let’s see how many alternate names I can come up with instead!” 🤣🤣
I was surprised how quickly she was able to come up with euphemisms for them and left rather curious just how many there are.🤔
daivahataka One that always sticks in my mind is Dolly Parton saying hers’ are “natural airbags”! 😜🤣
I think my favourite was Anna (That Star Wars Girl) repeatedly calling them "blessings" to avoid getting demonetized as she was discussing a bit of drama in the online community. 🤷♂️
I have often wondered if they offer additional impact protection to the torso (yeah, I know as a guy I should be having way more entertaining thoughts about them but I just don't think right 🤷♂️) but then, in an interview, Kate Beckinsale complained it was quite painful to be accidentally punched there during a film fight scene so have my doubts. Which in turn of course leads to the question of how nerve dispersal varies between the genders and individuals in the chest region and whether that sensitivity is purely down to gender, cup size, or something else. 🤔
@@daivahataka I'm no expert, but I heard some years ago that a study showed that man-nipples were more sensitive than woman-nipples. (I'm assuming the test subjects were all cisgender.) Speaking as a gal who nursed 3 kids well into toddlerhood, it makes sense that we'd be a bit less sensitive there. Babies accidentally bite, grab and whack. That said, any part that"sticks out" is more likely to be bumped into, which is ow. I don't know if this has been helpful...
@@missnaomi613 fair point, thanks for sharing. I'll try track down the study to see if there's anything I can learn. 😊
Thinking about how many times I have heard specialists (then repeated by the GP) casually say oh you’re really hyper mobile as if it’s a small little things. The silky shorts are divine.
I've done historic recreation. Corsets are amazingly comfortable, especially lifting full cast iron pots over open fires.
Thank you for dispelling the myths with corsets. Also the use of alternative phrases made me smile. I adore that you mentioned Bernadette Banner and Karolina. Abby Cox has a similar video on it, as she wore 18th Century stays everyday for 5 years.
Jessica, you should check out the show The Dragon Prince. It is an animated kids show on Netflix and it has good LGBTQ+ and disabled representation.
Rayla should've lost her arm. #Changemymind.
Oh yeah i loved that show!! (Haven’t finished it yet tho...)
Another good one to try out is the new “She-ra” series!!! Ligit EVERYONE is at least a little gay ❤️
Here here!
Yep! And it’s from the creators of atlab so the world building is great!
AND ANDREY ISN'T HERE dude I love your username. Great comet?
As a physiotherapist who treats children with scoliosis, pregnant women and anyone with back pain, I am fascinated to know how much it helped with your pain. I know the scale of one to ten is annoying. Can you give me a percentage better?
I wear a corset and have back pain and this definitely relives my pain from an 8-9 to an 2-3 if not a 0 at times
@@skylerchan7746 that's great, thanks for telling me. I'm glad you have found something to help that works so well.
Zero Waste Wiltshire as someone who both wears corsets for my back pain (incorrectly diagnosed with scoliosis, updated diagnosis of hypermobility type ehler's danlos syndrome) and who is now pregnant, i wish i could still fit in it! my pain tolerance means my 1 is another person's 3, so when i say a corset took the pain (and dislocations in the area!) down from a daily 7 at the end of the day to a 2 or even 0, i MEAN it! mine doesn't lace like jessica's, so i get the pleasure of carefully tweaking until everything feels good for that particular day. it's straight bliss!
I wore a medical corset for years until it fell apart. I'm about to make a set of full boned stays as i cant another medical corset.
as someone with the same "s" curve scoliosis it was very comforting to hear you talk specifically how it affects your body shape. ofc i know how it does, because i live with mine, but it's nice to have evidence you aren't the only one lol. lots of love !
yeah same!! i really liked this video, so awesome to find people with the same conditions out in the wild (youtube)
I didn’t know that about having to break in corsets! I was thinking actresses find them uncomfortable because they’re often forced into not wearing them properly for ~sexy~ reasons
Like, how often are we seeing corsets being laced onto bare skin? And how often are they being tightlaced for the drama and for the waistline?
Right!?! Like, they don’t need to be tight to get the shape! It’s in the layers and proper illusions! And I literally yelled at a corset place because they were telling people it was best to wear corsets directly on the skin and I was like “what are you doing!?!”
Kat The Nerdfighter not to mention, it’s not like the costume department has endless money- they aren’t going out and buying customer made RedThreaded or Prior Attire corsets for all their actresses! They’re putting most of them in cheap, mass manufactured modern style things, which means in order to get that waist reduction, they have to squish everything else because most modern corsets just aren’t made to have that sort of natural curve to them. They’re very straight, actually. No good, in my opinion.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
1:58 Body close-up
4:11 (I'm not sure what to call this part)
5:14 Getting a corset
9:06 Why corsets aren't bad
14:21 Reveal
15:04 Dancing in dresses
15:39 Why do actresses complain about corsets
I almost had scoliosis as a child, genetically I would’ve gotten it from my mother. The doctors spotted it (because I was at risk) before it was too severe and I was able to correct it without a brace, just by doing some regular exercises. Still, as I have posture and back pain issues to this day, and am not a huge fan of bras, I may consider a corset to help with that! Love this video
Chesterson Jack Corsets are great, fitted and laced well- that’s a big old learning curve! xxj
May I ask what those specific exercises are? I have scoliosis too
Sophiyams Aquitania Afraid nothing more than regular stretching. Mine was exacerbated by my posture and my heavy, one-shoulder messenger bag I used for a backpack in third grade. I’m not sure how well it would help scoliosis that is primarily genetically caused.
Men still wear corset things when they do weight training and heavy lifting! Never thought of those things as corsets till now.
That blue sparkly dress looks AMAZING on you!
a Princess moment !
I want you and Bernadette Banner to become the best of friends. It would be the most charming, humorous and esthetic friendship.
Okay but on the other hand: the Proper American Shade if combined forces with Proper English Shade the world would explode.
... On the other other hand, in 2020, world might explode anyway
@Any One She's not, she's American.
From one Buffy the Vampire Slayer enthusiast to another: you're my second favourite red-headed lesbian.
I loved the Buffy reference and lost it at the reference to what else might be made straight to 'balance' a spell on her back 😂
I was so glad you mentioned Karolina and Bernadette - I immediately thought of them as I started this video.
Me too 😀
The fact that you mentioned Karolina makes me really happy. The crossover I was craving, thanks ladies
I love that you mention two youtubers whose contents I enjoy watching a lot. I discovered your channel, I don't know, like, two or three years ago, only through a couple videos, then I lost it in the immensity of TH-cam, and now I'm rediscovering it, and while watching this particular video I actually had Bernadette and Karolina in mind.
And now I'm off watching many other videos on your channel !
As an American, I'm not surprised Americentric is a word
This video made me so happy.
I have been wearing corsets for years to deal with chronic back pain as well as other health issues. They help SO MUCH!
I often get judged for it and get lectures about it but I don't care. The pain relief is absolutely worth it and my doctors have assured me that I'm not harming myself in any way because I make a point of being safe about it.
I'm so excited for you and am glad you are getting some much needed and deserved pain relief from your beautiful corset.
Prior Attire, in Buckinghamshire, is another fabulous resource for custom corsets. Izabela Pitcher makes some of the most goooorgeous historical garments and underthings I've ever had the privilege to see, and her Dressing Up series on TH-cam does an excellent job of showing all the layers that go into historical garments. More importantly, Izabela has done a video that shows exactly how much women counted on their corsets as comfortable and practical foundations for their clothing. I highly recommend the Prior Attire channel and videos if you're interested in learning more about historical garments. 😊
I love Prior Attire!
How refreshing to see someone talking about corsets positively and with understanding
As someone with severe scoliosis, it is so damn nice to see someone with a body like mine. We never see it in the media, and it just feels so good ❤️
Agreed!! ❤️ My scoliosis looks a lot like Jessica’s but I feel compelled to hide my torso’s lumps and asymmetries beneath loose clothing. Doctors also thought I’d “grow out of it”(!????) lol. It’s nice to see someone with a body like mine looking great and wearing clothes so well.
This! I've struggled so much with my body and the fact that I have that exact same rib hump and clothes never fit right. (~40 degree curve in my lower back and 35 degrees right between my shoulder blades). But she pulls it off so beautifully.
@@m0_o552 I wouldn't have noticed them, if she wouldn't have pointed at them. I'm sure it's painful, but otherwise feel free to wear nice clothes. I'm sure there is something for you out there, that fits you nicely.
If you have difficulties just try looking for other styles like higher waist, dresses, adjustable clothes like those for maternity and breast feeding etc.
The only thing I could think about is where did she get that bra 🤣 it's got great coverage and I need it.
Pretty sure it’s the van doren bra, also from kiss me deadly.
Was about to ask the same thing
'Inibility to wash their hands' THAT SHADE THO
Well... unwillingness was a big factor too, for a decent while.
‘Topical’
A Bernadette Banner shoutout! I’m living for this!!!
This is so so interesting! Halfway through the video I remembered that growing up in italy, it was really not a big deal for teens to be prescribed (for free) medical corsets, to alleviate early signs of scoliosis or back pain. It's a different word from the word for a lingerie corset, so I truly didn't realise it was actually the same thing! Only realised when you linked the other video. Not a big deal at all and never questioned by adults, children, men or women in society, just a random medical device, like wearing braces on your teeth
I wore a corset almost daily to university during my first few years. I was unknowingly using it to manage my various back issues. My scoliosis is fortunately quite mild so I can buy an off the shelf corset. I absolutely could not have gotten through those first few years of uni without my corset usage - it kept me upright, the pressure and compression is soothing and helped with sensory overload. I have a few corsets at different cuts (over yet, underbust, cinch, etc). Kept my ribs in place, supported my wobbly spine, and really I have no idea how I would have survived without my accidental corset love. Years later my doctor noted it and was like it’s as good as a back brace for my purposes and needs and encouraged i use it. I hope your corset is so lovely and comfortable
It's amazing to see you so happy with your corset! I dont have scoliosis, but I do have back pain and weakness from a car crash. Being part of the steampunk community was a lifeline for me. Even though none of my corsets were custom made, the amount of relief they gave me was indescribable! I cant stand to hear a bad word uttered about corsets, especially by people who are completely ignorant of their importance and their history! I find the biggest problems people find with corsets (from my 5 years in the steampunk community) are that they dont know how a corset is supposed to be correctly worn and laced (wear something under! Stop tight lacing! Please do a cursory google such!) and buying the wrong shaped corset for their bodies (yes there are different shapes! Some shapes are going to work better due to your bone structure and weight distribution! Stop hurting yourselves goddamnit!)
You look like Cinderella in that blue sparkling dress!!!!! Absolutely gorgeous!!!!!
I've been geeking out over historical fashion for quite a while and you busting corset myths makes my nerdy heart happy!
I definitely recommend Bernadette Banner's videos for those interested in 19th century corsets!
I'm making a supportive corset for an EDS friend (who doesn't have scoliosis, but does have serious back pain and difficulty supporting her spine) and this video was so helpful - specifically for that little waist tape that allows the corset to be tightened! That is an amazing idea. I'm stealing it.
Also the fact that they didn't offer you a medical support corset for at least part time wear is. Is. Well. Training to be a physiotherapist as a person with disabilities is a truly enlightening experience! And by enlightening I mean rage-inducing! I have yelled out loud at my laptop while reading research papers before and I am taking some deep breaths now, because sometimes you get a physiotherapist who is delightful and knows exactly what they're about, and....sometimes you get people who give my friends exercises that are so obviously inappropriate for them that even a PE teacher could probably tell! It's a mixed bag.
Aw, three of my favorite vintage fashion TH-camrs gathered here together. Glad to know you are all watching and supporting each other!
As a disabled women i can confirm that wearing a corset helps me to stand longer.
When you say "Hello Lovely People!" at the beginning of your videos I get a rush of dopamine and happy stimming :) Thanks for immediately making my whole day so much better!
1:55 Did I pause the video to go and put my pearls on so I could clutch them as requested? Yes. Yes I did. A new Jessica video requires my FULL commitment to the bit!
Unfortunately I didn't have any pearls to hand but I did have a lovely metal wolf's head pendant.
I had a teddy at the ready
I am absolutely living for the montage of Jessica prancing around in princess dresses!!
Jessica is so lovely. Idk how anyone leaves her hate. Her general outlook is so refreshing and her accent is the pretty bow on top. Read this comment in that pleasant accent bc that’s the voice I heard in my head while typing. So glad you’re feeling better 💜
If you’re ready to talk about the modeling show experience, we’re ready to hear it!!! Love u 💕
We promise we'll be nice :)
Yes! I remember watching it at the time so would be interested in revisiting. If that's not too painful for Jessie of course
@@alicebourne7681 I promise I'll be nice to the candidates. Can't promise I'll be nice regarding production if they're the reason it was such a bad experience...
@@Siriastimeflies agreed
She got such a raw deal during that show, I'm not surprised she's still a bit traumatised about it. I was recently diagnosed and coming to terms with my sexuality at the time, so I adored her from the start, and the scorn she got from other models and the judges about her invisible disabilities made my heart ache for her
I have scoliosis too!!! Oh my goodness it makes me so happy to see this video! Thank you!!
Bernadette Banner is brilliant! I'm so happy to see you recomend one of her videos
I'm a cosmetologist, and often wear my over bust corset for 5-8 hours at a time while at work, and it's the best thing for back-pain relief/prevention. And the side-effect of my mounds of joy being more prominently displayed has absolutely *no* effect on the amount of tips I'll make in a day😎😄
I recently discovered your channel and clicked because as a ginger who loves vintage dresses, I saw a kindred spirit.
I’m learning so much. It never occurred to me that my underwire digs in on that side because that’s where my spine curves. So obvious, but since I inherited this scoliosis from my Dad, who got it from his Dad. . . I got very little advice about bras and spine curvature.
I thank you for what I have learned so far and what I have yet to learn from you.
XOXO
-Vintage Ginger in Chicago.
Ever since Carrie, I've been referring to my milk sacks as "Dirty Pilllows." Taataas, are my second choice. Your plethora of alternative designations are delightful.