Hai Singaporean. Our pride and joy,d Black Night from the Republic Of Singapore Air Force. Is the best acrobatic team in asia and among the best in the world. I'm a Singaporean and proud of it. Their formations are tight and their ariel display are daring. Unlike some country,we can see from one to the other are very loose. Still the commentator says,they are the best. Hahaha...pity.
As an impartial observer, I enjoyed the Black Knights a lot, but they were certainly not a flawless team. Individually, the manoeuvres were fantastic and ambitious, but the execution of some of those manoeuvres was consistantly poor. Of the six times I saw the full 6-ship Black Knights show in the 2014-15 season, I never saw them fly "Seashell to Way of the Dragon" or "Twist And Shout" to a particularly high standard. During the 6-ship aerobatics in the first half of the show, Black Knights 5 or 6 would often fall out of position during the second half of loops or barrel rolls. But perhaps their biggest weakness was the overall choreography of the show. The manoeuvres did not flow seemlessly into each other and there were some very long gaps - a pause of around a minute between Gull and the Criss-Cross, for example. I've filmed most of the world's big aerobatic teams and I can't think of any others team that have a gap that long in the middle of their show - it's entirely aoidable and an example of some very weak choreography. Similarly, there were issues of repeated manoeuvres. The Double Inverted Wrap was quickly followed by the Helix, which was just a simplified version of the Double Inverted Wrap - an opportunity to show us something different and better to what we'd seen before, wasted on doing a less interesting version of something we'd already seen. That was one of several decisions that I never understood about the Black Knights' choreography - it's not as if there is a shortage of possible manoeuvres to choose from. I'd agree that the Black Knights were one of the better aerobatic teams in Asia, although to be fair, with a couple of notable exceptions, the standard is not particularly high. I enjoyed watching them in the same way as people enjoy supporting a middle-of-the-league football team: it's more fun to watch a team than runs hot and cold, where you never know exactly what's going to happen, than one that always wins and makes it look too easy.
@vandas2007, this reads like the comment of someone who's seen something they disagree with and who decided to choose anger rather than actually thinking rationally about the situation. thisisflight.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/BKerrors.png To illustrate the scale of the imperfections, the link above is a series of still images from my footage, showing just ONE display 15/02/2014. I count *8 distinct errors in a single show* and I didn't even film the whole thing. If you ever watch, say, the Thunderbirds or Frecce Tricolori, it's unusual to even see one error of that magnitude per show. Seriously, take a look at this video I recorded two weeks ago at an airshow in Italy, showing the Frecce Tricolori, and try to find a single error or imperfection. I don't even see one. th-cam.com/video/k9bcS4grL88/w-d-xo.html I don't mean to demean the Black Knights pilots - one of whom, their former opposing soloist, is a personal friend of mine. They did a great job *in the circumstances they were given* but they had very limited training time. They trained 4-5 times a week, for about 3 months. Compare to most other big aerobatic teams, who train 2-3 times a day, for 4-6 months. It shouldn't be a surprise, or an insult, to point out that the Black Knights don't fly to the same technical standard. For what it's worth, since 2018 I've been a professional airshow commentator and cameraman. I attend 20+ airshows USA, Europe and Asia every year as my primary job, and I've seen pretty much everything there is to see on the airshow circuit. I see and work with these aerobatic teams on a daily basis, filming them, commentating on their show, collecting and editing TV-quality footage of their displays, chatting to their pilots, and advising airshow organisers on which teams to book and which to avoid. When I make a comment about the quality of an aerobatic team, it comes with the weight of that experience - not from a casual observer or someone who watches video clips on TH-cam.
Let me ask you, do the RSAF also fake their own videos to add mistakes? Here's a video, recorded by the RSAF and published by a Black Knights team member (team commentator Military Expert 3 Neville Ng), showing the same display my photos came from on 15/02/2014: th-cam.com/video/dBNy6lUpKFI/w-d-xo.html You can compare it to my photos at the following timestamps. Photo 2 - 03:49 in the RSAF's official video - improperly-flown Diamond formation Photo 3 - 05:26 in the RSAF official video - improperly-flown Chevron formation Photo 4 - 09:27 in the RSAF's official video - improperly-flown Delta formation Photo 5 - 21:22 in the RSAF's official video - extremely messy Delta formation Photo 6 - 14:25 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Seashell Photo 7 - 14:45 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Way of the Dragon Photo 8 - 16:07 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Bon Ton Rouelle Oh, and guess what, the RSAF's own official video reveals more mistakes I didn't even spot! 09:02 - improperly flown Card formation with BK6 dropping out of position on entry to the loop. Hard evidence *from the RSAF themselves* which perfectly validates that my images weren't photoshopped. The person spreading fake information, by claiming real world images are photoshopped, is, unfortunately, you. I hate to break it to you, but really, factually, the Black Knights didn't execute parts of their display to an especially high standard. I'm sorry, because I know Singaporeans are genuinely proud of them and that makes it hard to see and admit mistakes. But putting patriotism aside, that's the hard truth of the matter. They made a hell of a lot of errors.
You haven't even clicked the link, have you? The video clearly shows a massive crowd of 50,000 members of the public watching the show. It is an uncut, unedited video, entirely filmed on the first public day of the Singapore Airshow, 15/02/2014. The title of the RSAF's video confirms this. Insane that you accuse others of spreading lies when the most obvious mistruths are coming from you!
By the way, have you ever seen the Thunderbirds in person? I have, many times. I have videos on this channel. Take a look at one of them (th-cam.com/video/5JJ_ahM1mbQ/w-d-xo.html). I see, at most, two minor mistakes in one display. From the Black Knights, 9 mistakes in one show - and much bigger ones than the Thunderbirds made. My "artificially high standards" are the standards I see every day from dozens of aerobatic teams around the world while working in the airshow industry. Why am I "harping on" about it? Because you're accusing me of lies and fabricating evidence. I'm still waiting for an apology for your claim that I photoshopped images of their show on 15/02/2014. But, as you've told me, "it's always ok to admit you're wrong." Go on then, do it.
Superb display. Awesome. Love it. Singapore is so small yet it is so advanced and has such capabilities. Impressive.
wow !!! that looks awesome :)
Great and salute to our SAF pilots😄
Hai Singaporean. Our pride and joy,d Black Night from the Republic Of Singapore Air Force. Is the best acrobatic team in asia and among the best in the world. I'm a Singaporean and proud of it. Their formations are tight and their ariel display are daring. Unlike some country,we can see from one to the other are very loose. Still the commentator says,they are the best. Hahaha...pity.
As an impartial observer, I enjoyed the Black Knights a lot, but they were certainly not a flawless team. Individually, the manoeuvres were fantastic and ambitious, but the execution of some of those manoeuvres was consistantly poor. Of the six times I saw the full 6-ship Black Knights show in the 2014-15 season, I never saw them fly "Seashell to Way of the Dragon" or "Twist And Shout" to a particularly high standard. During the 6-ship aerobatics in the first half of the show, Black Knights 5 or 6 would often fall out of position during the second half of loops or barrel rolls.
But perhaps their biggest weakness was the overall choreography of the show. The manoeuvres did not flow seemlessly into each other and there were some very long gaps - a pause of around a minute between Gull and the Criss-Cross, for example. I've filmed most of the world's big aerobatic teams and I can't think of any others team that have a gap that long in the middle of their show - it's entirely aoidable and an example of some very weak choreography. Similarly, there were issues of repeated manoeuvres. The Double Inverted Wrap was quickly followed by the Helix, which was just a simplified version of the Double Inverted Wrap - an opportunity to show us something different and better to what we'd seen before, wasted on doing a less interesting version of something we'd already seen. That was one of several decisions that I never understood about the Black Knights' choreography - it's not as if there is a shortage of possible manoeuvres to choose from.
I'd agree that the Black Knights were one of the better aerobatic teams in Asia, although to be fair, with a couple of notable exceptions, the standard is not particularly high. I enjoyed watching them in the same way as people enjoy supporting a middle-of-the-league football team: it's more fun to watch a team than runs hot and cold, where you never know exactly what's going to happen, than one that always wins and makes it look too easy.
@vandas2007, this reads like the comment of someone who's seen something they disagree with and who decided to choose anger rather than actually thinking rationally about the situation.
thisisflight.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/BKerrors.png
To illustrate the scale of the imperfections, the link above is a series of still images from my footage, showing just ONE display 15/02/2014. I count *8 distinct errors in a single show* and I didn't even film the whole thing.
If you ever watch, say, the Thunderbirds or Frecce Tricolori, it's unusual to even see one error of that magnitude per show. Seriously, take a look at this video I recorded two weeks ago at an airshow in Italy, showing the Frecce Tricolori, and try to find a single error or imperfection. I don't even see one. th-cam.com/video/k9bcS4grL88/w-d-xo.html
I don't mean to demean the Black Knights pilots - one of whom, their former opposing soloist, is a personal friend of mine. They did a great job *in the circumstances they were given* but they had very limited training time. They trained 4-5 times a week, for about 3 months. Compare to most other big aerobatic teams, who train 2-3 times a day, for 4-6 months. It shouldn't be a surprise, or an insult, to point out that the Black Knights don't fly to the same technical standard.
For what it's worth, since 2018 I've been a professional airshow commentator and cameraman. I attend 20+ airshows USA, Europe and Asia every year as my primary job, and I've seen pretty much everything there is to see on the airshow circuit. I see and work with these aerobatic teams on a daily basis, filming them, commentating on their show, collecting and editing TV-quality footage of their displays, chatting to their pilots, and advising airshow organisers on which teams to book and which to avoid. When I make a comment about the quality of an aerobatic team, it comes with the weight of that experience - not from a casual observer or someone who watches video clips on TH-cam.
Let me ask you, do the RSAF also fake their own videos to add mistakes? Here's a video, recorded by the RSAF and published by a Black Knights team member (team commentator Military Expert 3 Neville Ng), showing the same display my photos came from on 15/02/2014: th-cam.com/video/dBNy6lUpKFI/w-d-xo.html
You can compare it to my photos at the following timestamps.
Photo 2 - 03:49 in the RSAF's official video - improperly-flown Diamond formation
Photo 3 - 05:26 in the RSAF official video - improperly-flown Chevron formation
Photo 4 - 09:27 in the RSAF's official video - improperly-flown Delta formation
Photo 5 - 21:22 in the RSAF's official video - extremely messy Delta formation
Photo 6 - 14:25 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Seashell
Photo 7 - 14:45 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Way of the Dragon
Photo 8 - 16:07 in the RSAF's official video - poorly-executed Bon Ton Rouelle
Oh, and guess what, the RSAF's own official video reveals more mistakes I didn't even spot!
09:02 - improperly flown Card formation with BK6 dropping out of position on entry to the loop.
Hard evidence *from the RSAF themselves* which perfectly validates that my images weren't photoshopped. The person spreading fake information, by claiming real world images are photoshopped, is, unfortunately, you.
I hate to break it to you, but really, factually, the Black Knights didn't execute parts of their display to an especially high standard. I'm sorry, because I know Singaporeans are genuinely proud of them and that makes it hard to see and admit mistakes. But putting patriotism aside, that's the hard truth of the matter. They made a hell of a lot of errors.
You haven't even clicked the link, have you? The video clearly shows a massive crowd of 50,000 members of the public watching the show. It is an uncut, unedited video, entirely filmed on the first public day of the Singapore Airshow, 15/02/2014. The title of the RSAF's video confirms this. Insane that you accuse others of spreading lies when the most obvious mistruths are coming from you!
By the way, have you ever seen the Thunderbirds in person? I have, many times. I have videos on this channel. Take a look at one of them (th-cam.com/video/5JJ_ahM1mbQ/w-d-xo.html). I see, at most, two minor mistakes in one display. From the Black Knights, 9 mistakes in one show - and much bigger ones than the Thunderbirds made. My "artificially high standards" are the standards I see every day from dozens of aerobatic teams around the world while working in the airshow industry.
Why am I "harping on" about it? Because you're accusing me of lies and fabricating evidence. I'm still waiting for an apology for your claim that I photoshopped images of their show on 15/02/2014. But, as you've told me, "it's always ok to admit you're wrong." Go on then, do it.
Fighter jets.
whats the music at tge start?
+Benjamin Ong "Epic Trailer" by Iliakulakow
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