iDrive (EVC) Dyno Testing! It WORKS, anymore power? (Part 2/2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Hi Guys,
So this is part 2 of the 2 part video, where i taken my 2019 Ford Ranger that i've recently fitted with an EVC iDrive and put it on the dyno..
Our main goal here is to see if there is any difference what so ever, in black and white, From dyno'ing the vehicle
Also, we connected a Throttle Position sensor to see where exactly is the throttle position in each different driving modes! We also did a standard dyno run to see what the new 2.0l single turbo is pushing out.
Let me know what you guys think of the result..
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I have a similar throttle controller and use the Economy mode to dull down the throttle at low speeds, such as driving around town, but at higher throttle input it still reaches 100% throttle, you just change the curve shape, and thus how far you need to press the throttle to get a set power out. I love it
Got one on my 2012 str manual makes a huge difference off the lights and on the highway. Way more responsive! It’s great.
Just fitted mine to my1kz Prado and what a difference it makes. Worth the dollars.
I found this device finds the lower gears when exhilarating from a roll on the U mode. Sure it doesn't give more power, but being able to drop gears when going certain speeds makes it feel faster. For instance my car from a roll 40kmph use to ride out the third gear before switching to 4th. Now it goes down to second therefore a quicker response which results in going faster. Sure it's not giving more kws or hp, but by manipulating the transmission it keeps the power almost always on the sweet spot. No matter at what speed. And the higher you go on the U mode, the more responsive the transmission gets. I found the U2 mode gives me the best performance without the jerky feel. I hope this explained some of the questions regarding power output people are looking for. I definitely agree this is a better option for off-roading and towing. But for those chasing better performance of their transmission the potential is definitely there. You've just got to find the sweet spot for your driving style. Peace ✌️
Right.... My Jeep loves pulling off in second... It really doesn't want to take down the first if I roll through a stop sign or something like that I don't roll it through stock signs but that's just the example.... If I roll through a yield and get back on the throttle it never goes to first...
Thanks Kenji. I have an Australian 2014 XLT Ranger. You have done a very good comparison test that has convinced me along with my friends experiences with his LDV T60 fitted with an iDrive. Definitely going to buy one.
It’s my pleasure!
Have a Friend in NZ who has an LDV Diesel Ute, and pull heavy trailers with it and swears it is the best thing since sliced bread.He say his fuel saving have not been affected help with towing over mountainous terrain.
Makes towing with my L200 much easier especially on hill starts and pulling away with a heavy load.
Clicked on the video faster than ever
Thanks, the video provide me clear explanation on how the device work. then... today i purchased it for my vx200.
Glad I could help
Just installed idrive today. Great response.... U9 mode, amazing.. Now i need bigger disc brake. 🤣🤣
Yulius Farani Why? The car has no more power or speed?
I recently have installed the Idrive EVC310 for my Fiat 500c Gucci Dualogic Twinair (2013), and I am very satisfied with this throttle tuner. from Idrive Australia.
Very simple to mount, and clearly to use, riding and changing smoothly directly into the desired mode. For me it is a very welcome addition to the fine and safely tuning of my car before from 85hp to 105hp (done by the best Alfa/Fiat Dutch tuner).
I choose Idrive because it doesn’t need Bluetooth nor IPhone interface while TH-cam Idrive and other throttle tuner movies convinced me further.
The design is very nice, small in size, with the 4 modes visible also at night.
When I chose mode U9 (Ultimate) my 500 is a race monster, (to prevent wheelspinning use
Wow! ERIC! Thank you so much for the message!
I find U9 a bit too harsh on my truck, it’s a bit too much throttle.
Hola , haz tenido problema con el dispositivo ? ha dañado el motor o algo similar ¨?
@@ventasquivime2714 5 dec 2019 I installed the Idrive EVC310 for my Fiat 500c Gucci Dualogic, TwinAir 0.9.
After driving 8000 km I am very satisfied with this throttle tuner. It is very simple to adjust your desired mode (4) with possible settings 1-9 (1 is minimum, 9 is max.) and everything goes smoothly while you drive. For me it is a very welcome, useful and reliable addition to the fine and safely tuning of my car from 85 to 105 ps (done by the best Alfa/Fiat Dutch tuner).
I choose Idrive because it doesn’t need Bluetooth nor IPhone interface and TH-cam Idrive movies convinced me further.
The design is very nice, small in size and simple to install. The following settings are possible:
** -- Normal mode, I never use this.
** E Economy mode, I use this with setting 9 for short distances (and without pressing) the ECO button on dashboard); for long distances I use E9 in combination with pressing the ECO button, which visible drops down fuel consumption.
** AC Automatic Control, I use this when I will quickly accelerate without using manually settings, the higher you press the pedal the faster the accelleration (1-9)
** U Ultimate mode, I use this when I will be the quickest accellerator on the road :-) .
With my standard setting U9 (Ultimate Performance 9=highest) my 500 is a real accelerating beast!
I ordered the Idrive in Australia by Ebay for 180 Euro. For dismounting/mounting the pedal assembly and connecting the accelerator plug assembly (the existing plug on the gas pedal could not released by hand) I had to pay my Garage another 20 Euro.
At home I simly mounted the Idrive on the dashboard.
Finally: the EVC 310 is for me the ultimate throttle tuner!
Kind regards from Holland Eric Koekkoek Birfelder
Sorry 1 addition more: I have never never had a problem with my EVC310, the 0.9 Twinair runs every day smoothly without any problems, I find the combination EVC310 + tuned 0.9 engine Ultimate!!! My advice: read the reviews, look at TH-cam...
Have a Friend in NZ who has an LDV Diesel Ute, and pull heavy trailers with it and swears it is the best thing since sliced bread.
Put one in my bt 50 makes overtaking so much better just no delay when u hit the gas. Bit to touchy for on road
Spoke to them today and suitable for any car.
You will have to buy for your specific vehicle, as the throttle plug behind the peddle might be different.
Great clip. Well done.
Thanks for posting your very informative video. I am considering one of these for my MUX.
I’ve been using it for about 3 weeks now, one word of advice, don’t leave it on auto! Find your sweet spot. My sweet spot is between E0 and U1.. for daily driving. Going up the dunes I use U5 or U7
Thanks for making this video! It would have been good to see the throttle values when putting the foot flat to the floor without the block under throttle. You only showed the dyno graphs but not the throttle values. As was mentioned in this video, the throttle controller makes no changes to the actual engine, so how can it actually make more power/torque earlier in the rev range if in both instances (standard throttle vs. iDrive) the throttle value is at 100%. In theory either standard must not bring the throttle value to 100%, or with iDrive it somehow goes above 100% and allows the throttle body to open wider. Are you able to explain this at all please? The part where you show the partial throttle makes sense and is what the iDrive is all about, but the full throttle bit with “more power” is confusing.
Right so, iDrive will never allow pass the 100% parameter. As you will need to tune the ECU.
It simply fools the pedal, where it can be 80% open at say 10% throttle position.
At full throttle, 100% will just still be 100% it will never give more.
It won’t get more power! It’s just a more on demand of the existing power that you have.
It’s easier to explain in person and show you.
Was about to change the video, then the English started.
😂😂😂... thanks for watching!
Kenji's Garage
Thanks, exactly what I needed to know👍
Pleasure
Why didnt you do a pull 0-60 to see if it is faster . Stock 0-60 6.0 sec
Idrive 0-60 5.5 sec
It’s like a Sport button on my M2
Your dreaming!!
I’m still a bit confused if it would be worth the money.. I need to test it out for myself!
You just said its like a sports button on your M2 didn't you? Now your saying not sure its worth the money? So which is it? These are the dicks that buy this shit.
@@hartzland7658 why are ya so pressed mate
It’s not no power involved just press your right foot harder same outcome
It's getting to peak tourque faster I'd love to see what the time difference is?
Hi, very informative, advanced, and complete information regarding the throttle controller, thank you, but I have a question I hope the admin or Kenji's Garage can answer regarding safety issues, My question is what if the throttle controller's device suddenly fails? or the little wire cut? Do we still have the control of gas pedal? or it will be back to normal mode? Thank you for hoping Kenji's Garage can enlighten us. thank you again!
It will revert back to normal.
It basically has to do with the "feel" of the throttle. My 2014 3.2 Auto Ranger has a very lazy throttle and it does not feel nice when driving. With the iDrive in U1 mode, it feels allot better and right. My dad's 2016 is a bit of the opposite. The throttle is very touchy and the iDrive in E1 should even it more out...
Yes, that's what i have also felt. I'm basically running E0.
Can you review the Hikeit Throttle Controller?
Installed it on my Nissan elgrand make big different. Money well spent
So does it give a quick response from a stand still? Like taking off at the lights?
Yes
Awesome and very informative video!! Can you do a video on AC mode? I mostly use that mode as it's the best of E and U mode...
I hate AC mode! It’s so jittery on my 2.0l single turbo
@@KenjiLo1 Lol, fair enough.. have heard that it's rather intense on an auto. Works lekker on my manual 2.2 ontop of a stage 1 map💪
I want to do a map on my Ranger! Need more power
You wont be sorry😈 I don't think that the single turbo's can be done yet but hopefully soon. ATM is always ontop of the game. Had mine done with them💪
Now I just have to save up the cash to buy one. :-). Thank you.
I'm just waiting for my local drag track to open so I can test it with and without idrive on my e46
Please let me know the result
Maybe do a drag race 1/4 mile with it off and one with it on U9 and time te run.
Honestly I think there will be such small significance in difference. It’s honestly not for more power. It’s used more to smoothen out the pedal.
@@KenjiLo1 I think the 1/4 mile is likely the best test actually
@@KenjiLo1 It does nothing of the sort, all it does is make it touchy unless you have it in bullshit E mode or some horse shit. Just learn to drive idiots.
Tell it Like it is you are very confused! Maybe go back and watch the video again. I do explain everything in detail. So listen up! And concentrate! Perhaps also watch the end. Before commenting and showing your IQ.
Whacks an empty stubby under the throttle to test, ended up crashing in the drive-through at the bottleshop because it ended up under the brake pedal. Thanks. 🤣
Luckily that never happened.
I don't have a IDRIVE but the main purpose is throttle response. Fly by wire has a lag in response when you press the paddle. You can test this by bouncing your foot on the accelerator. You find your car won't rev higher to match your paddle. The IDRIVE removes the paddle lag so the engine response to movement of the paddle which removes the lag. The vehicle has the same power but response quicker to the paddle. Your test fail to test the response time of the paddle which is the the point of the IDRIVE.
The test was not response. Lol.. guess some people can’t read 🥱
And if you bothered to watch the video, you will see the dyno graph show's the earlier throttle response that the iDrive gives.. So maybe you should watch or read before commenting..
Which mode should I keep it for everyday driving/fuel efficiency? AC or should I turn it off ?
What vehicle do you have?
@@KenjiLo1 Subaru liberty 08
I would leave it U1 or U2. Just to give it a little bit more extra sensitivity.
@@KenjiLo1 I’ve had it on u2 for a while and realised the car drinks petrol, would Ac be more efficient or would it not make much of a difference
I hate AC, the device is not that clever. I would then leave it off. And only when needed, then use it
You have to be careful if you are in a very steep incline it will not work
have you seen any savings in fuel on the eco mode?
No. And I preferably don’t drive in eco mode. I use eco mode primarily for rocky surface, it smooths out the throttle and don’t give me slippage
@@KenjiLo1 but does that not have an impact on the 4x4 settings on the car that are already set for certain accelerations?
@@KenjiLo1 found your channel today Mate, really enjoying your content
So it definitely does affect your 4x4 settings, but very very mildly. Let me give you an example.
I was on eco mode, going through rocky patches etc, and was very smooth, and no jerking. Then i got to a sandy patch and forgot to switch it back to Ultra mode. I literally was stuck, my truck didn't wanna move. But when i realized it, i switched to Ultra mode, and i was cruising on sand.
It won't affect directly on your 4H or 4L settings, or even with your diff lock settings. It only controls the throttle.
Got my idrive throttle controller and was super excited to experience the unleashed power. However it kept displaying an 'AA' code which left the buttons unresponsive and the rpm at 1500. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
AA code is the auto mode. Does your mode button not respond at all? If so, then you have a faulty unit
@@KenjiLo1 thanks for the quick response.
But these things don't say they add power.... they say they change the rate of change of power...
Some people’s perception aren’t so higher grade..
Arigato
So how can the idrive bring on anything sooner if all setting are exactly the same ECU reading at full throttle
It manipulates throttle sensor. But the effect is very short. Used more for off-road use. Not racing
David L
Dumbass!
It changes the sensitivity of the gas pedal idiot!
It either “brings or delays” the “anything” (using your word), depending on whether you set it on economy or ultramode.
At U mode -20% pedal press already gives you the 80% power of the engine vs lower engine power you get at stock mode at the same % pedal press.
Perlas Ng Silangan
Man you must be a trump supporter you know the trumpets
Why so rude, the guy was asking a question not trying to change your life
I’m sure if you were in front of him you would act different
Get a clue stop bullying
So nothing new here you just pay for the pleasure of pressing the pedal less with a I drive
Waste of money
Basically! I have actually not fitted any pedal booster in the new Hilux! I find it's a waste of money, your right foot can control everything you need.
say ja 1 more time!!!!!
Ja
You need to do acceleration times.
People really wanna see it? Cause I’m not so sure if it’ll be that informative lol
@@KenjiLo1 we know that the power won't improve but what many of us want to know if it actually helps to improve 0-60 times and 1/4 mile.
There’s other videos on here where guys time 0-100km ph
@@purple2275 great, I'll just search youtube until I find them.
So is idrive better than injen module?
one would only know if they compare the 2. But i really think it wouldn't make a difference, they all throttle modules. They don't change anything else on the car. So technically there should be no difference. (i could be wrong)
Kenji's Garage nice thanks man. I am looking for a bully dog tuner for Nissan Frontier 2019 cant find one do you happen to know where I can find one. If possible thanks.
Will this damage your engine long term?
Any modification to your vehicle carries a risk of damage. Or shortened life span.
No it’s only changing the way the throttle body is mapped
Eco def slow.
Can you have one of these if you have a remap? or will a remap do this as well?
If you have a remap, this will still work. Remap increases the boost and fueling and what not. Not the sensitivity of your throttle. With this, you can literally make your peddle less sensitive, and so helps you with slippery conditions.
So in other words, remap and a peddle booster are 2 different things. They do 2 different functions.
Haha I was just about to close you tube.
Sorry..
It works for Tesla and Full Electric too th-cam.com/video/_oPnU_PDxSY/w-d-xo.html ! Doing some GPS testing to see it’s faster 0-60 and rolling 30-50 40-60 vid out soon
Electric motors provide 100% of available torque at 0 RPM. Having faster throttle response is going to make the Tesla, other electrics and ANY vehicle not made with Alien Technology precisely 0 Zeptoseconds faster 0-60. Google Zeptosecond. Then save your money. If you like faster throttle response and getting dirty looks from the wife for all the neck snapping at streetlights, have at it! It will, when working as designed greatly reduce drive by wire lag. It will not improve time-to speed performance. If you believe it does, come on by, I have a device that enables your car to run on Bat Urine. Think how much you'll save. Enough to blow your wad on this silly device.
Is it still working ?
This thing is the biggest load of shit. I took it out about a year ago!
@@KenjiLo1 seems to be working for me ,I keep it on auto ,why did you take it out ?
@@crazycressy7986 Im interested to know too. Just had it installed.
@@minbajunid I keep mine on auto as it gives me more throttle when I need it ,unless I get a boy racer at the lights then it goes into U9 lol ,it's working fine
@@crazycressy7986 Thanks I set mine on U7. I might try auto mode. I wonder why Kenji said this thing is fulla shit
Just put your foot to the floor does the same thing you’d think.
I don’t really use it for more power, as it doesn’t give any more Kw or Hp. I use it to regard the sensitivity, it has saved me from slipping on rock crawling.
Actually it doesn't do the same thing. It would work that way with old school cars. With new cars a computer determines how fast throttle body will allow air in. How fast you put your foot on the floor only has so much of an effect. These things allow the throttle to open a little quicker and allow air in faster. So you don't get any more power, but when you initially put your foot on the floor you get the power a little quicker because more air gets in a little faster. I had one. It makes the accelerator anywhere between a little and a lot more sensitive, depending on how you have it set
Just put your foot down simple
You can’t put your foot down on slippery rocks. You will get bogged down. I use this mainly to retard the sensitivity of the throttle, so there’s no accident slipping on the tires.
Waste of money
Sad you think so. But this has its own place in off roading. By simply saying what you have said. It sadly shows your understanding of this industry!
@@KenjiLo1 really.. basically you need to understand this .. this device do nothing els you lying at ur self . Examples with this device if you are running 10% of throttle this only trickling the ECU doing actual 50% .. without this device is more accurate.. with this on only you fooling at ur self by doing 50%percent but actual is 100% if this really works so what will happen if you are doing 100% throttle with or without if you feel any deference pls light me up .. you need simple thing to understand this buy OBD2 read the throttle position and see the result by ur self .. and apologies for my writing hope and get the msg
This device isn’t suppose to give you more power. It’s purely there to smooth out the throttle. Especially in slippery conditions. When you don’t want the surge in power. You place it in Eco mode. This helped me a lot in slippery conditions.
By simply saying 20% = 70% is over simplifying this device.
I bought one the other week. It does more than just that. It also increases the speed of acceleration. If you plant your foot down with no throttle controller, the signal will slowly increase from 0-100% over 6 seconds (example). With a throttle controller, the 0-100% signal occurs in less.time - 3 seconds (example). So it gets ride of that 'doughy' feeling. It makes the car more responsive
Wouldn't getting your ecu re mapped do all the above more power, throttle response, and economy?
Ok I keep hearing kilowatts im from the us we don't use kilowatts.. so...
Sorry, will try and use hp next when we do power runs
Was looking for something that would fix the throttle timing from the time I give it gas to the time it goes is like almost 2 or 3 sec. Delay🤕so was looking for good but reasonable price to fix
@@matthew197735 this would be it. These kind of devices improve on throttle response. Takes the lag away.
@@KenjiLo1 Dont bother make him use a conversion calculator :)
746 watts/hp. Fire up the calculator