I love that you mentioned the impact of modding on developers. Marco Masarutto of Kunos has stated in interviews about the positive impact of modding on the industry, creating new talent and spurring progress. Additionally, he has said that the dev team for AC2 has made it a goal to match, if not surpass, the quality of "AC1 on modded steroids" (his words lol). So, the work of modders is literally moving the entire industry forward. Modding matters!
Many of my friends in the industry started out tinkering with mods. Until there’s a university course in sim development, it’s the best way to learn the ropes 😆
AC2 should be AC with a better physics engine, upgraded graphics, night/weather, and just as moddable. Provided the engine that runs circuit racing, track days, open maps, rally etc. Let the modders fill in the cars and tracks. The community will be very happy.
"the underground providing something that the establishment deems unprofitable" just about sums up art in the 21st century. Maybe even art in general. Oh, and I had seen the Nardi Bisiluro before in a GPLaps video and couldn't put a name to it. Thanks for spelling it out for me!
Not only is sim-racing modding art, it's historical preservation. Take Nicecuppatea's fantastic 1923 French Grand Prix collection, or Fourty-Too's beautiful Delage 15S8 & Miramas. Already museums and tourism & culture ministers have commissioned mod developers to recreate historic race-tracks to represent parts of motorsports history; stuff like the Gnoo Blas mod originally for RF1 and later ported over to RF2 & AC. For people who want to take a proper dive into the rabbit hole of motorsports history via Sim Racing, GPLaps has covered a bevy of classic cars & tracks for AC, GP Legends, RFactor and many more sims, complete with the historical context of the content; both the real-life original cars and the in-sim development. Some videos I'd recommend are his 1923 Goodwood Shootout, his Delage 15S8 Showcase and his Tatra 603 showcase.
I've been modding PC games since Half-Life 1 and Counter-Strike when I was 12 - 13 years old and I could not agree more, Every single game I have played that allows mods, always ends up better once the dedicated mod communities start bringing out content for the titles. Modding communities also inspire younger people to get into game development.
Welcome back, and congrats on 100k! Modding has had an incredible impact on simracing, bringing cars and content that opens endless possibilities... We may have to give it a go again soon, it was fun the last 2 times we made something for AC😏
@@ChrisHaye We are doing great, already working hard on the upcoming real life MFT03... and you'll hear from us soon, we have a car for you to try out coming in the next few weeks ;)
Welcome Back, Chris! your dulcet tones were greatly missed. 100% on the money, on the matter of modding. My dad owned a peugeot 504 when i was a kid, and i vividly remember mimiking his motions as he drove the many roads of my country. Because of a series of unfortunate events, involving a flood, an underground garage and a vacation from hell, i never got to drive that beauty. now i have it in AC...and i also have a VR helmet. childhood dream, achieved.
I've been gaming longer than almost everyone here. First video game was Pong on the Atari back in the early 80s. Played most massive games throughout the decades, numerous online games and communities, and I have to admit, the Assetto Corsa modding community is the best I have ever experienced. The base sim and DLCs alone are an ocean of fun to be had, but then you open the door to the mods out there and...just wow. And to think 90% of the mods are all free too! You know the developers behind the mods truly love cars and the community and just want to share their creations. I'm now 1.5 years in to AC and it still blows my mind to this day. Never thought I'd be one of those types to buy a wheel, sim rig, VR, etc, but AC made me do it and it's one of the most mind blowing gaming experiences I've ever had. Being able to just jump in to a GT car on the Nordschleife and hot lap with a bunch of other people around the world, any time I like? in VR? With amazing wheel physics? It's unbelievable the ultimate edition goes on regular sale for $8!! I recommend any car lover to pick it up one day. We just recently hit our all time online player 24hours peek of over 15,000 players
Everytime I watch one of your videos I'm amazed by the production qualtiy! Feels like a high budget documentry which is both informative but entertaing at the same time! Great work and hope you have a great 2023! :)
Chris, I hope you can keep finding more joy from simracing. I can understand how the routine can turn a passion into a job, but you have a true talent for communicating your passion, and getting people hyped to try out a new mod, game, hardware. Keep at it man!
Nice to see you back Chris, doing what you do best. You're earlier vids about the various mods & cars were what got me deep into sim racing. I love the old and unusual cars. Resubbed and hoping to see more original content like you used to do. Your channel was always different because of this. Bring on the next CH vid !
there is something I would like to share with you Chris. I do enjoy your channel. During 2020 infamous times, sim racing was a blessing for many of us to survive lockdowns. Lots of people looked for any extra info (even basics like videos explaining trail breaking etc.). But now we are in 2023 and the times are different. I do see how other popular sim racing channels evolve and how I lost the interest of the content they provide. It is hard to keep on releasing content every week in sim racing and I don't find specifically watching other people drive so entertaining (but that is fairly subjective matter). All I want to say is that I appreciate the effort and orginality you put in making your videos. The content you provide is less frequent but that corresponds to much higher quality. I like it! Have a good weekend.
I find the Bisiluro a great example of the contagious passion of modders. You'll find the most niche and unexpected mods and you'll learn about vehicles and tracks you never knew of, all because someone cared about them enough to immortalise them on a game. So much automotive history and culture is preserved and taught through these mods.
I just discovered your channel, you make amazing videos brother, the production quality is really good and of course it’s valuable anecdotes and knowledge on sim racing which is why we’re here. Keep it up man, you’re my new favourite TH-camr!
You're back!! And I'm back!! And of course modding matters - of course it does. We all need that little flight of escapism from the harsh reality of official premium content, primarily because the content the modders make is out of pure love, more than anything. It's also lucky that there are the likes of Assetto Corsa, rFactor, Automobilista, Richard Burns Rally and other sims that absolutely encourage modding. The only problem is having enough space in your hard drive to accommodate it all.
Lovely video with an important and well-supported thesis. I'm really glad you highlighted the Nardi, which is such a special car, but I never expected to drive it in a sim. Modding vastly expands what is possible in this hobby of ours.
Nice too see you again. This was a great video, keep it up. For me it was your AC mod review videos that made me interested in modding the hell out of AC, and I've had hundreds of hours of fun, so thank you for that.
just started few weeks ago with modding. Am working hard on traffic cars for the new CSP Traffic Planner Tool :):):):) LOVE this game was so happy to see you releasing this videocontent
Thank you for this. Not only is it an interesting topic, but I'm delighted to watch a new Chris Haye video! Always intelligent and well produced. I'd say I'm looking forward to more - and I am - but please only do as many as it takes to keep the level of quality this good.
There are cases where a game exists two ways, with and without mods. Assetto Corsa, for example, is a good game by itself, but the modding community is so amazing that game with mods is absolutely another experience, so expressive and immersive. I’ve played Gran Turismo my whole life and Forza too, and I can only imagine what big modding communities would do to these games.
Couldn't agree more. Mods allow us to express ourselves too. With replays, photos, videos... Assetto Corsa could have been so boring, and yet here it is all these years later, alive and kicking.
Great video as always and welcome back It's so incredibly true, the developers that embrace modding are often ones i'm more interested in seeing what they do. Look at Reiza who's bending over backwards to try and get modding to work on the madness engine in AMS 2 it shows that they know the power in having a strong modding community
The effect that modding can have on a game’s lifespan is insane… GTR2 turned 16 last year and still has an active modding scene. And Assetto Corsa, despite being 8 years old by now, looks like it could’ve been released just last year - or is at least capable of doing so with mods. Not to mention that features like rain or night were originally said to be impossible in AC, but were then developed by modders, a lot of it even after Kunos had moved on to ACC.
Is it worrying that i actually recognize and know"how the track goes" of about 90% of the tracks featured? ;) Judging by the amount of GB on my HDD, well... :rolls eyes: giggty! Keep on making awsome video's, Chris! thanks man!
its funny cuz last night i was like; hey how is assetto doing in terms of active users on steam nowadays? and man i was so blown away by the fact it has more players now then it ever has! the biggest a game from 2014 has ever been is now xD thats how much modding does, and that is just awesome, and why modding and cars in games in general should be considered art, because then car manufacturers can no longer ask humongous prices for a car being in a game
Great to see you back making content Chris! We've missed you over here at Positive Perception. You're always welcome to come and chill out with our Hillclimbs... 👀
Great video, and I'd never heard of the twin torpedo. Such a wonderful example of the magic modding can provide. I've been thinking about this topic recently, with the announcement of AC2 and people's speculation of will it/won't it support mods. I've only recently started dipping my toe into AC because i quit simracing around the time it originally released. Seeing things like CM, CSP, and just trying out some modded tracks, seeing videos on how huge drifting has become in the game, the pacific coast highway and Shutoko Revival Project and no doubt many many more, it seems inconceivable to me that AC2 won't support mods. It would surely be the dumbest decision ever by a developer to try an go any other way. AC would have sold and generated only a fraction of the revenue for them it it wasn't for mods. I don't think Kunos are are dumb. They understand this and will continue support modding in the future. Slightly more annoying are the early snippets of info around rennsport, which wanted to use NFTs (Lol) because they are so intent on maximising revenue, before they faced a backlash. I can see them trying to push tired failed concepts like paid mods in game and being gatekeepers of modded content and taking a cut etc etc. But then I haven't seen or heard anything about rennsport that shows how it moves the game on in any significant way from any sim already available today anyway. Regardless of what the other players do, AC2 will be moddable, and will rule simracing for the next decade. No one else seems geared up to compete.
Very true about AC's modding capabilities keeping it going as what I think is rF1's true successor. rFactor realistically had its run for about 9 years as well, but the engine really limits some things and time hurts. AC is turning 10 (counting alpha), but with constant support and updates through CM/SP in the same way Windows XP had unofficial community service packs, I could see it thriving for another few years unless AC2 is what we want it to be. As you've alluded to, it actually hit an all-time peak on steam very recently. It's not the only simulator with mod support and even GPL is still kinda kicking, but it's THE simulator to do literally whatever you want. AC's golden age isn't over yet. Where else can I have a realistic GT race at Road America with a league, then follow with a cruise around the entire Need For Speed Underground 2 map in a Lego hotrod?
I very much agree with this. Even personally modding has allowed me to experience sim racing in multitudes of different ways... For me a good game is one I can enjoy after a long day at work without too much setup and with the integration of content manage and assetto corsa, it allows me to do the exact same. I may not have race pace but I sure as hell can put in a clean lap and to me that is much more important.
As someone who fronts a mod group for an old sim (FRM for GTR2), thank you for this video. The modding community are a bunch of crazy fools at best - take our team... We're from all over the world, but united together in one love - motorsport. And we spread that love to our community who have the same vision if not modding capabilties.
I would love to see modding in more and more platforms that have never even seen before. People would think modding is a PC only thing but I've seen it done in other platforms. For example: Saber Interactive released Spintires Snowrunner and with it they launched modding support for consoles. How did this work? You had to make an account on a modding site that THEY chose and the game would download the mods that you want to use. Another case? SimplePlanes. The developer designed the game with modding in mind and was made available in Android and iPhone with modding drag and drop style. There are tons of games that would be 1000x better than they currently are if modding support was of like AC or similar (FR Legends, Assoluto Racing, Minecraft Pocket Edition, the Assetto Corsa mobile game) however the modding in some platforms either required to replace an asset of the game, have an external launcher or they just don't have modding support at all.
I run a league in Assetto Corsa, and I genuinely can't keep up with the amount of interesting, high quality mods coming out that we want to race. At the end of every season - which generally only run for several weeks - I've got a bunch of new options for what to race in the next. It's a fantastic problem to have.
As a modder (Beamng and AC) I make around 0-5$ per race track/map in donations from public releases and 100-400$ from private ones, the public ones take more time because they will be seen by more people and they moan about something not being perfect the most. I started working in gamedev because of one public release that was seen by a gaming studio that works on one of the upcoming and hyped Sims, but made around 4k$ from the private ones in 3 years. If you're not going to be lucky enough (or don't want to work in gamedev) I don't know if public modding would be worth the time unless you're very passionate about a car or location/track but I guess there's more people that are happy to pay to have their local racetrack made for AC for themselves than people who can actually replicate it and put it in the sim for everyone to enjoy.
I wonder why some of the modders dont combine their resources to build an open source racing platform? Ilya has done stunning work on AC modding and there are plenty of others as well and just because the platform is open source doesn't mean the content has to be, in the same way we have free and paid mods now?
Yeah, I must admit that I’d had the same thought. But it would require sim racers to agree with each-other for an extended period of time, which seems implausible 😂
Thank you for this video👏👏👏 I totally agree. We live in wonderful times for all simulations at nearly 75yrs old I’ve seen the PC sim/ game grow and VR 😀 I started with the ZX Spectrum back in 1984 so let’s enjoy what we have thanks again Chris I’ve liked and I am a subscriber
It's freaking awesome and opens toms of possibilities, we also need more colorful arcade racers on steam with full modding support, ballisticNG is a decent start, but I really love to see a racing game like Ridge Racer with Mod support.
I tried the Nardi Bisiluro mod shown in the video, but it has a problem where the AI goes much slower than me. I can't race with it. I couldn't find anyone else mention that in the few reviews. If that's an issue, they should at least mention it in their page where they talked about fixing the other AI things.
I've spent two years focussed too much on iRacing. I think I should redownload AC and the LA Canyons mod and fling the Singer around there again to let off some god damned steam hey???
Do the Shutoko Revival project mod and get online to do a wangan street race in AI traffic with racers online. Also buy a VR headset while you are at it.
@@jimbochoo3316 oh yeah I've got a Rift S and have done a great many laps in VR with Assetto Corsa. Been a while though. A Wangan street race sounds like awesome fun too, although the times I played with Shutoko I found it a bit boring, but having said that I was driving solo.
There's so many videos and accounts of sim drifters easily taking to real drifting from their time with AC mods. For a motorsport hobby that is somewhat more attainable than full on racing, AC mods have no doubt saved people time and money by getting easy, risk-free seat time.
Social media companies are a great blueprint for sim devs, I think. They’re not wildly popular because of the content they produce - they’re popular because of the extensively functional platform they provide for users to express themselves through the types of content the platform accommodates. The Motorsport tragic in me loves licensed 1:1 recreations of real life tracks/cars, but the simracer in me will go wherever I can just have a good race. Licensed content is nice to have but I’ll take a title loaded with 100% fictional content every day of the week if the racing & to a slightly lesser extent the overall UX experience is better/less infuriating. AC’s popularity is what it is because it’s the closest a sim racing title has ever got to a social media platform - helped in no small part by a thriving community that embraced it purely because it was (& still is) the only one that allowed them to do whatever it is they want to do… Hell, just the money saved on licensing deals alone would dramatically increase a studios net profit AND give them more resources with which to refine the platform further.
Sure thing - www.racedepartment.com/downloads/austin-mini-cooper-s-fia-app-k-historic-racing.27875/ The other cars by the same creator are all worth a look as well!
mooding are really good but we need modding, not ripping, now AC had tons of other game's rip, like rf2 all dlcs and iracing cars, and so on, and some people are pround of use ripping because they can play other game's model for free in AC... it's a shame but those thing made from scratch, and permission convertion, in AC, rf2, and some old games like RBR, even GPL, brings them live longer and longer
Well, if one deigns to think for oneself and look at what mods over all genres gave us, one cannot deny their positive impact, no matter how much certain companies by Electronic A***** try to deny this. Let's have a look: Battlefield 1942->Mod Desert Warfare->Battlefield 2 F1 99-02 Challenge Mods ->GT Car racing ->GTR->GTR2->R3E and Pcars 1-2 F1 99-02 Challenge Mods->rfactor->DRM Mod->Group 5 in every modern sim ''->rfactor mods->LMP in modern sims Baldur's Gate->Baldur's Gate mods->BG2EE and Pillars of Eternity (the mods proved that there was still a market for classic party based RPG.) MWLL (Mechwarrior Living Legends) Crysis/Crysis Wars mod->Mechwarrior Online->Battletech->Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries (Without the Mech proving that there was a Playerbase of Battletech/Mechwarrior fans, there wouldn't be any modern games.) Mount&Blade->American Civil war mods, viking era mods, napoleonic war mods, crusades mods, lord of the rings mods, warhammer 40k mods, GoT Mods, ASOF Mods, Warhammer Fantasy mods........->Holdfast Nations at war, War of rights, Kingdome Come Deliverance=basically 99% of the historical games of today and a ton of the fantasy games are due to Mount & Blade or Mount & Blade Warband mods. Battlefield 1942->Battlefield 1918 Mod->Verdun->Battlefield 1. Falcon 4.0 has been modded for the last two and a half decades, yeah it's close to 25 years old now and it still kicks DCS into gear on a few things, because there are still thingst aht are better in this fan mod than in a modern commercially made simulation. Like the AI, missile autopilots, the ATC, the IFF System, Dynamic Weather and the dynamic campaign. ED is finally improving the AI and making a dynamic campaign, because the utter madlads at the BMS team not only have dragged Falcon to DX11, 64-bit and VR. Both it and DCS have some great mods, like the Community A-4 for DCS or the tons of Theatres of Operations for Falcon. Warcraft 3->Defense of the Acients Mod->DOTA Half-Life 2->Insurgency Mod->Insurgency Modern Infantry Combat->Insurgency Sandstorm UT 2003*->Red Orchestra Mod->Red Orchestra Ostfront 1941-1945->Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm->Rising Storm 2 Vietnam. Arma2->DayZ Mod->DayZ Battle Royale->switch to Arma 3->PUBG. Half-Life 2->Chivalry Mod->Chivalry Mediveal Combat->Civalry 2->Mordhau UT 2004->Killing Floor Mod->Killing Floor. Half-Life->Counter Strike mod->Counter Strike 1.x->CS 1.6->CS Source-> CS Global Operations This list is neither exhaustive, nor comprehensive, it's just there to argue the point. *Unreal Tournament 2003....if I have to explain that one to you.....well you've missed out and now nothing, John Snow! ;) :P
Modding begs the copyright question... Since modders are not licensing the rights from a specific brand, how does the developer get around this issue by allowing such car or track model into their game?
It's not the developer's fault the software can be hacked and modded to play variations of its game. I doubt they can be sued in any way for copyright. However, the license they have in their game for cars might be terminated/not extended in the future. Still, the car manufacturers have to be careful not to anger the community. It probably doesn't benefit them much to clamp down on the enthusiast community.
So right. As for AC it is amazing. So much historic content, available for uss to enjoy and mostly all down to modders. Go figure you can pick that thing up (during a sale) for less then the electric bill for a single cup of tea and for that money you can drive so much content, and thatnew V10 tyre model holy smokes. It is just an ode to the automotive world and racing history.
Any developer that is anti-modding is an idiot. I think the shining example of big time modding is Half-Life 1. So many big dev teams and main stream titles came out of HL mods. People keep playing, and keep buying that game now 25 years later because of mods. Why would you spend hundereds of millions of dollars making something that sells well for a few months, then peters out after 2-3 years when you could just drop some mod tools with it and keep making bank for TWENTY FIVE YEARS even if its from $5 Steam sales.
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I love that you mentioned the impact of modding on developers. Marco Masarutto of Kunos has stated in interviews about the positive impact of modding on the industry, creating new talent and spurring progress. Additionally, he has said that the dev team for AC2 has made it a goal to match, if not surpass, the quality of "AC1 on modded steroids" (his words lol). So, the work of modders is literally moving the entire industry forward. Modding matters!
Many of my friends in the industry started out tinkering with mods. Until there’s a university course in sim development, it’s the best way to learn the ropes 😆
match, if not surpass, the quality of "AC1 on modded steroids" that is great, but does that mean AC will support mods?
@@ChrisHaye Even if there were, the sooner you start learning the better it is.
AC2 should be AC with a better physics engine, upgraded graphics, night/weather, and just as moddable. Provided the engine that runs circuit racing, track days, open maps, rally etc. Let the modders fill in the cars and tracks. The community will be very happy.
@@jimbochoo3316 Yup. And it needs to be able to utilize more than 1 core to make VR in multiplayer run well
A new Chris Haye video always makes my day! Great to have you back for 2023!
Thanks Mike, great to get back on the horseless... horse!
"the underground providing something that the establishment deems unprofitable" just about sums up art in the 21st century. Maybe even art in general.
Oh, and I had seen the Nardi Bisiluro before in a GPLaps video and couldn't put a name to it. Thanks for spelling it out for me!
Not only is sim-racing modding art, it's historical preservation. Take Nicecuppatea's fantastic 1923 French Grand Prix collection, or Fourty-Too's beautiful Delage 15S8 & Miramas. Already museums and tourism & culture ministers have commissioned mod developers to recreate historic race-tracks to represent parts of motorsports history; stuff like the Gnoo Blas mod originally for RF1 and later ported over to RF2 & AC.
For people who want to take a proper dive into the rabbit hole of motorsports history via Sim Racing, GPLaps has covered a bevy of classic cars & tracks for AC, GP Legends, RFactor and many more sims, complete with the historical context of the content; both the real-life original cars and the in-sim development. Some videos I'd recommend are his 1923 Goodwood Shootout, his Delage 15S8 Showcase and his Tatra 603 showcase.
I almost feel like I have been to University with all I have learned through AC related historical content!
Welcome bsck
Gracias! Rumours of my downfall have been -greatly exaggerated- accurately reported.
I've been modding PC games since Half-Life 1 and Counter-Strike when I was 12 - 13 years old and I could not agree more, Every single game I have played that allows mods, always ends up better once the dedicated mod communities start bringing out content for the titles. Modding communities also inspire younger people to get into game development.
That’s a really great point that I hadn’t considered. Perhaps doubly important when it comes to niche simulation titles.
Ur approach is clearly quality over quantity but i’m hungry for more of this type of content.
Welcome back, and congrats on 100k!
Modding has had an incredible impact on simracing, bringing cars and content that opens endless possibilities... We may have to give it a go again soon, it was fun the last 2 times we made something for AC😏
The Formula Student cars are absolute joys to drive. I look forward to whatever you guys are making next!
Heh, thanks 🙏
Hope all is well with you guys.
@@ChrisHaye We are doing great, already working hard on the upcoming real life MFT03... and you'll hear from us soon, we have a car for you to try out coming in the next few weeks ;)
Welcome Back, Chris! your dulcet tones were greatly missed.
100% on the money, on the matter of modding.
My dad owned a peugeot 504 when i was a kid, and i vividly remember mimiking his motions as he drove the many roads of my country. Because of a series of unfortunate events, involving a flood, an underground garage and a vacation from hell, i never got to drive that beauty. now i have it in AC...and i also have a VR helmet. childhood dream, achieved.
I've just started modding AC and the amount of diversity it introduces cannot be underestimated, so much variety
"Modding is art" is absolutely what I'm taking forward into 2023. Thank you Chris, that's an excellent observation.
I just pray AC2 allows even a slither of what AC offers
This. Very much this!
At this point, I believe they are "forced" to bring all that
@@My40Love I hope so. Had AMS2 taken off more they may have had second thoughts, but you'd like to think Kunos will allow modding for AC2 now.
A very big part of Assetto Corsa is modding, I'm positive they will make it so people can mod AC2
Such a well constructed video. Work put in really shows.
Thank you kindly! 🙏
If sim racing is the fantasy world, that we all want to live in, then you must be the storyteller my friend! Cheers!
I've been gaming longer than almost everyone here. First video game was Pong on the Atari back in the early 80s. Played most massive games throughout the decades, numerous online games and communities, and I have to admit, the Assetto Corsa modding community is the best I have ever experienced. The base sim and DLCs alone are an ocean of fun to be had, but then you open the door to the mods out there and...just wow. And to think 90% of the mods are all free too! You know the developers behind the mods truly love cars and the community and just want to share their creations.
I'm now 1.5 years in to AC and it still blows my mind to this day. Never thought I'd be one of those types to buy a wheel, sim rig, VR, etc, but AC made me do it and it's one of the most mind blowing gaming experiences I've ever had. Being able to just jump in to a GT car on the Nordschleife and hot lap with a bunch of other people around the world, any time I like? in VR? With amazing wheel physics? It's unbelievable the ultimate edition goes on regular sale for $8!! I recommend any car lover to pick it up one day. We just recently hit our all time online player 24hours peek of over 15,000 players
What an amazing video.
Thank you for featuring our little Nardi.😊
And thank you guys for making it! You made me discover a completely new and different car
I'm not the only one who doesn't know the last 2 thirds of the Nurburgring?! Ahh that's a relief. And those Mini's had the bightest brake lights ever!
Heh, I think the brake lights are a weird quirk with the weather settings I used. Decided I could live with the eerie glow 😂
@@ChrisHaye haha yeah, they're the same in my game but I don't mind some extra lighting FX
Great to see you back. Your thoughtful takes on all things sim-racing are always a delight to watch. Congrats on 100k too
Everytime I watch one of your videos I'm amazed by the production qualtiy! Feels like a high budget documentry which is both informative but entertaing at the same time! Great work and hope you have a great 2023! :)
Thanks, much appreciated!
Chris, I hope you can keep finding more joy from simracing. I can understand how the routine can turn a passion into a job, but you have a true talent for communicating your passion, and getting people hyped to try out a new mod, game, hardware. Keep at it man!
Nice to see you back Chris, doing what you do best. You're earlier vids about the various mods & cars were what got me deep into sim racing. I love the old and unusual cars. Resubbed and hoping to see more original content like you used to do. Your channel was always different because of this. Bring on the next CH vid !
Great to see you back Chris! Excellent start to 2023!
Glad to see you making videos again!
there is something I would like to share with you Chris. I do enjoy your channel. During 2020 infamous times, sim racing was a blessing for many of us to survive lockdowns. Lots of people looked for any extra info (even basics like videos explaining trail breaking etc.). But now we are in 2023 and the times are different. I do see how other popular sim racing channels evolve and how I lost the interest of the content they provide. It is hard to keep on releasing content every week in sim racing and I don't find specifically watching other people drive so entertaining (but that is fairly subjective matter). All I want to say is that I appreciate the effort and orginality you put in making your videos. The content you provide is less frequent but that corresponds to much higher quality. I like it! Have a good weekend.
I find the Bisiluro a great example of the contagious passion of modders. You'll find the most niche and unexpected mods and you'll learn about vehicles and tracks you never knew of, all because someone cared about them enough to immortalise them on a game. So much automotive history and culture is preserved and taught through these mods.
Also welcome back and moar please :)
Mods are not always a work of art, but modding will stay a work of heart.
Ty so much for the kind words. It means so much. I'm Nugget btw.
I just discovered your channel, you make amazing videos brother, the production quality is really good and of course it’s valuable anecdotes and knowledge on sim racing which is why we’re here. Keep it up man, you’re my new favourite TH-camr!
You're back!! And I'm back!!
And of course modding matters - of course it does. We all need that little flight of escapism from the harsh reality of official premium content, primarily because the content the modders make is out of pure love, more than anything. It's also lucky that there are the likes of Assetto Corsa, rFactor, Automobilista, Richard Burns Rally and other sims that absolutely encourage modding. The only problem is having enough space in your hard drive to accommodate it all.
Lovely video with an important and well-supported thesis. I'm really glad you highlighted the Nardi, which is such a special car, but I never expected to drive it in a sim. Modding vastly expands what is possible in this hobby of ours.
Nice too see you again. This was a great video, keep it up. For me it was your AC mod review videos that made me interested in modding the hell out of AC, and I've had hundreds of hours of fun, so thank you for that.
just started few weeks ago with modding. Am working hard on traffic cars for the new CSP Traffic Planner Tool :):):):) LOVE this game
was so happy to see you releasing this videocontent
You're the man! Just saw your race track build video and now I learn about a Nardi racecar?! Subbed!
Welcome back mate!
Thanks mate. It's been too long :)
Thank you for this. Not only is it an interesting topic, but I'm delighted to watch a new Chris Haye video! Always intelligent and well produced. I'd say I'm looking forward to more - and I am - but please only do as many as it takes to keep the level of quality this good.
The message conveyed by this video is thoughtful imo and very appreciated here. Good one CH.
Love your videos mate, happy to see you uploading again:)
Thanks dude. Glad to be back 🙂
There are cases where a game exists two ways, with and without mods. Assetto Corsa, for example, is a good game by itself, but the modding community is so amazing that game with mods is absolutely another experience, so expressive and immersive. I’ve played Gran Turismo my whole life and Forza too, and I can only imagine what big modding communities would do to these games.
Couldn't agree more. Mods allow us to express ourselves too. With replays, photos, videos... Assetto Corsa could have been so boring, and yet here it is all these years later, alive and kicking.
Great video as always and welcome back It's so incredibly true, the developers that embrace modding are often ones i'm more interested in seeing what they do. Look at Reiza who's bending over backwards to try and get modding to work on the madness engine in AMS 2 it shows that they know the power in having a strong modding community
The effect that modding can have on a game’s lifespan is insane… GTR2 turned 16 last year and still has an active modding scene.
And Assetto Corsa, despite being 8 years old by now, looks like it could’ve been released just last year - or is at least capable of doing so with mods. Not to mention that features like rain or night were originally said to be impossible in AC, but were then developed by modders, a lot of it even after Kunos had moved on to ACC.
Is it worrying that i actually recognize and know"how the track goes" of about 90% of the tracks featured? ;)
Judging by the amount of GB on my HDD, well... :rolls eyes: giggty! Keep on making awsome video's, Chris! thanks man!
its funny cuz last night i was like; hey how is assetto doing in terms of active users on steam nowadays? and man i was so blown away by the fact it has more players now then it ever has! the biggest a game from 2014 has ever been is now xD thats how much modding does, and that is just awesome, and why modding and cars in games in general should be considered art, because then car manufacturers can no longer ask humongous prices for a car being in a game
Yeah, it’s mad isn’t it? Not bad for a game that had its last DLC released something like 6 years ago!
Missed these sorts of videos!
Congrats on 100K , and Thank you for this Video
YES!!!! I've missed this!
Me too. Beers when?
@@ChrisHaye tell me the time and place dude I'm there.
@@steveworrell - rgr that!
Great to see you back making content Chris! We've missed you over here at Positive Perception.
You're always welcome to come and chill out with our Hillclimbs... 👀
Very pleasing to see my Lotus 102 livery get such a prominent feature in a CH video!
A great video and tribute to sim racing! Well done!
Great video, and I'd never heard of the twin torpedo. Such a wonderful example of the magic modding can provide.
I've been thinking about this topic recently, with the announcement of AC2 and people's speculation of will it/won't it support mods. I've only recently started dipping my toe into AC because i quit simracing around the time it originally released. Seeing things like CM, CSP, and just trying out some modded tracks, seeing videos on how huge drifting has become in the game, the pacific coast highway and Shutoko Revival Project and no doubt many many more, it seems inconceivable to me that AC2 won't support mods. It would surely be the dumbest decision ever by a developer to try an go any other way.
AC would have sold and generated only a fraction of the revenue for them it it wasn't for mods. I don't think Kunos are are dumb. They understand this and will continue support modding in the future.
Slightly more annoying are the early snippets of info around rennsport, which wanted to use NFTs (Lol) because they are so intent on maximising revenue, before they faced a backlash. I can see them trying to push tired failed concepts like paid mods in game and being gatekeepers of modded content and taking a cut etc etc.
But then I haven't seen or heard anything about rennsport that shows how it moves the game on in any significant way from any sim already available today anyway.
Regardless of what the other players do, AC2 will be moddable, and will rule simracing for the next decade. No one else seems geared up to compete.
Very true about AC's modding capabilities keeping it going as what I think is rF1's true successor. rFactor realistically had its run for about 9 years as well, but the engine really limits some things and time hurts.
AC is turning 10 (counting alpha), but with constant support and updates through CM/SP in the same way Windows XP had unofficial community service packs, I could see it thriving for another few years unless AC2 is what we want it to be. As you've alluded to, it actually hit an all-time peak on steam very recently. It's not the only simulator with mod support and even GPL is still kinda kicking, but it's THE simulator to do literally whatever you want. AC's golden age isn't over yet.
Where else can I have a realistic GT race at Road America with a league, then follow with a cruise around the entire Need For Speed Underground 2 map in a Lego hotrod?
I very much agree with this. Even personally modding has allowed me to experience sim racing in multitudes of different ways... For me a good game is one I can enjoy after a long day at work without too much setup and with the integration of content manage and assetto corsa, it allows me to do the exact same. I may not have race pace but I sure as hell can put in a clean lap and to me that is much more important.
Thanks for the tip on that '55 beauty, my kind of car mod for sure.
Another great Video Chris, and cannot agree more with your thoughts.
As someone who fronts a mod group for an old sim (FRM for GTR2), thank you for this video. The modding community are a bunch of crazy fools at best - take our team... We're from all over the world, but united together in one love - motorsport. And we spread that love to our community who have the same vision if not modding capabilties.
I would love to see modding in more and more platforms that have never even seen before. People would think modding is a PC only thing but I've seen it done in other platforms.
For example: Saber Interactive released Spintires Snowrunner and with it they launched modding support for consoles. How did this work? You had to make an account on a modding site that THEY chose and the game would download the mods that you want to use.
Another case? SimplePlanes. The developer designed the game with modding in mind and was made available in Android and iPhone with modding drag and drop style.
There are tons of games that would be 1000x better than they currently are if modding support was of like AC or similar (FR Legends, Assoluto Racing, Minecraft Pocket Edition, the Assetto Corsa mobile game) however the modding in some platforms either required to replace an asset of the game, have an external launcher or they just don't have modding support at all.
Nascar Racing 2003 Season is turning 20 years old this year and it’s still going strong thanks to the modding community
Good to see content Chris ! Any updates on your new studio?
Great video man,one question,at the end,is that still asseto? Are those the 1991 f1 cars?or am i wrong?
I run a league in Assetto Corsa, and I genuinely can't keep up with the amount of interesting, high quality mods coming out that we want to race. At the end of every season - which generally only run for several weeks - I've got a bunch of new options for what to race in the next. It's a fantastic problem to have.
As a modder (Beamng and AC) I make around 0-5$ per race track/map in donations from public releases and 100-400$ from private ones, the public ones take more time because they will be seen by more people and they moan about something not being perfect the most. I started working in gamedev because of one public release that was seen by a gaming studio that works on one of the upcoming and hyped Sims, but made around 4k$ from the private ones in 3 years. If you're not going to be lucky enough (or don't want to work in gamedev) I don't know if public modding would be worth the time unless you're very passionate about a car or location/track but I guess there's more people that are happy to pay to have their local racetrack made for AC for themselves than people who can actually replicate it and put it in the sim for everyone to enjoy.
Assetto 2 and Rennsport will keep us alive Chris!
Thats why I do 3D of car that aren't "popular", it give them a new life that developper will never do
I wonder why some of the modders dont combine their resources to build an open source racing platform? Ilya has done stunning work on AC modding and there are plenty of others as well and just because the platform is open source doesn't mean the content has to be, in the same way we have free and paid mods now?
Yeah, I must admit that I’d had the same thought. But it would require sim racers to agree with each-other for an extended period of time, which seems implausible 😂
@@ChrisHaye tru, herding cats and all that, if I had the skills I'd give it a lash myself but alas when it comes to code I struggle with html :(
Thank you for this video👏👏👏 I totally agree. We live in wonderful times for all simulations at nearly 75yrs old I’ve seen the PC sim/ game grow and VR 😀 I started with the ZX Spectrum back in 1984 so let’s enjoy what we have thanks again Chris I’ve liked and I am a subscriber
Great content, you just showed up in my recommendations, the only thing is that the audio is a bit out of synch with the video
Missed you much Chris!
It's freaking awesome and opens toms of possibilities, we also need more colorful arcade racers on steam with full modding support, ballisticNG is a decent start, but I really love to see a racing game like Ridge Racer with Mod support.
1:27 I feel called out, thanks 😂
Hey Chris, which button plate are you using with your Turn Racing wheel? Thanks!
I tried the Nardi Bisiluro mod shown in the video, but it has a problem where the AI goes much slower than me. I can't race with it. I couldn't find anyone else mention that in the few reviews. If that's an issue, they should at least mention it in their page where they talked about fixing the other AI things.
I've spent two years focussed too much on iRacing. I think I should redownload AC and the LA Canyons mod and fling the Singer around there again to let off some god damned steam hey???
Do the Shutoko Revival project mod and get online to do a wangan street race in AI traffic with racers online. Also buy a VR headset while you are at it.
@@jimbochoo3316 oh yeah I've got a Rift S and have done a great many laps in VR with Assetto Corsa. Been a while though.
A Wangan street race sounds like awesome fun too, although the times I played with Shutoko I found it a bit boring, but having said that I was driving solo.
I was just getting into your essay and boom, it ended. Part 2 please.
There's so many videos and accounts of sim drifters easily taking to real drifting from their time with AC mods. For a motorsport hobby that is somewhat more attainable than full on racing, AC mods have no doubt saved people time and money by getting easy, risk-free seat time.
Social media companies are a great blueprint for sim devs, I think. They’re not wildly popular because of the content they produce - they’re popular because of the extensively functional platform they provide for users to express themselves through the types of content the platform accommodates.
The Motorsport tragic in me loves licensed 1:1 recreations of real life tracks/cars, but the simracer in me will go wherever I can just have a good race. Licensed content is nice to have but I’ll take a title loaded with 100% fictional content every day of the week if the racing & to a slightly lesser extent the overall UX experience is better/less infuriating.
AC’s popularity is what it is because it’s the closest a sim racing title has ever got to a social media platform - helped in no small part by a thriving community that embraced it purely because it was (& still is) the only one that allowed them to do whatever it is they want to do…
Hell, just the money saved on licensing deals alone would dramatically increase a studios net profit AND give them more resources with which to refine the platform further.
can i have a link for that mini at 2:07 plz
Sure thing - www.racedepartment.com/downloads/austin-mini-cooper-s-fia-app-k-historic-racing.27875/
The other cars by the same creator are all worth a look as well!
@@ChrisHaye thankyou!!! I won’t go outside for 3 days now lol
mooding are really good
but we need modding, not ripping, now AC had tons of other game's rip, like rf2 all dlcs and iracing cars, and so on, and some people are pround of use ripping because they can play other game's model for free in AC... it's a shame
but those thing made from scratch, and permission convertion, in AC, rf2, and some old games like RBR, even GPL, brings them live longer and longer
You sholdve covered the dark side of modding like ripped mods and similar, but great video
What track is in the intro
Most games nowadays would've die within 10 hours of gameplay for me if there was no mod, period.
What is the track the Mini's are racing on?
I think it's Feldbergring. If not it's another from Fat Alfie, he's the master of almost forgotten vintage tracks
fantastic thumbnail
Watching this after reading that Radical launched an official mod for AC1 (Y)
Well, if one deigns to think for oneself and look at what mods over all genres gave us, one cannot deny their positive impact, no matter how much certain companies by Electronic A***** try to deny this. Let's have a look:
Battlefield 1942->Mod Desert Warfare->Battlefield 2
F1 99-02 Challenge Mods ->GT Car racing ->GTR->GTR2->R3E and Pcars 1-2
F1 99-02 Challenge Mods->rfactor->DRM Mod->Group 5 in every modern sim
''->rfactor mods->LMP in modern sims
Baldur's Gate->Baldur's Gate mods->BG2EE and Pillars of Eternity (the mods proved that there was still a market for classic party based RPG.)
MWLL (Mechwarrior Living Legends) Crysis/Crysis Wars mod->Mechwarrior Online->Battletech->Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries (Without the Mech proving that there was a Playerbase of Battletech/Mechwarrior fans, there wouldn't be any modern games.)
Mount&Blade->American Civil war mods, viking era mods, napoleonic war mods, crusades mods, lord of the rings mods, warhammer 40k mods, GoT Mods, ASOF Mods, Warhammer Fantasy mods........->Holdfast Nations at war, War of rights, Kingdome Come Deliverance=basically 99% of the historical games of today and a ton of the fantasy games are due to Mount & Blade or Mount & Blade Warband mods.
Battlefield 1942->Battlefield 1918 Mod->Verdun->Battlefield 1.
Falcon 4.0 has been modded for the last two and a half decades, yeah it's close to 25 years old now and it still kicks DCS into gear on a few things, because there are still thingst aht are better in this fan mod than in a modern commercially made simulation. Like the AI, missile autopilots, the ATC, the IFF System, Dynamic Weather and the dynamic campaign. ED is finally improving the AI and making a dynamic campaign, because the utter madlads at the BMS team not only have dragged Falcon to DX11, 64-bit and VR.
Both it and DCS have some great mods, like the Community A-4 for DCS or the tons of Theatres of Operations for Falcon.
Warcraft 3->Defense of the Acients Mod->DOTA
Half-Life 2->Insurgency Mod->Insurgency Modern Infantry Combat->Insurgency Sandstorm
UT 2003*->Red Orchestra Mod->Red Orchestra Ostfront 1941-1945->Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm->Rising Storm 2 Vietnam.
Arma2->DayZ Mod->DayZ Battle Royale->switch to Arma 3->PUBG.
Half-Life 2->Chivalry Mod->Chivalry Mediveal Combat->Civalry 2->Mordhau
UT 2004->Killing Floor Mod->Killing Floor.
Half-Life->Counter Strike mod->Counter Strike 1.x->CS 1.6->CS Source-> CS Global Operations
This list is neither exhaustive, nor comprehensive, it's just there to argue the point.
*Unreal Tournament 2003....if I have to explain that one to you.....well you've missed out and now nothing, John Snow! ;) :P
without assetto and its mods id be lost! at this point its more than a game its a release.
Modding begs the copyright question... Since modders are not licensing the rights from a specific brand, how does the developer get around this issue by allowing such car or track model into their game?
It's not the developer's fault the software can be hacked and modded to play variations of its game. I doubt they can be sued in any way for copyright. However, the license they have in their game for cars might be terminated/not extended in the future. Still, the car manufacturers have to be careful not to anger the community. It probably doesn't benefit them much to clamp down on the enthusiast community.
to be fear the mods save the games, racing, shooting, etc ...
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If modding wasn't a thing, Assetto Corsa would have been a 2/10 game ngl
So right. As for AC it is amazing. So much historic content, available for uss to enjoy and mostly all down to modders. Go figure you can pick that thing up (during a sale) for less then the electric bill for a single cup of tea and for that money you can drive so much content, and thatnew V10 tyre model holy smokes. It is just an ode to the automotive world and racing history.
Any developer that is anti-modding is an idiot. I think the shining example of big time modding is Half-Life 1. So many big dev teams and main stream titles came out of HL mods. People keep playing, and keep buying that game now 25 years later because of mods. Why would you spend hundereds of millions of dollars making something that sells well for a few months, then peters out after 2-3 years when you could just drop some mod tools with it and keep making bank for TWENTY FIVE YEARS even if its from $5 Steam sales.
Who dis ?
Man without hat.
@@ChrisHaye oh right your that fellow sim racer , I remember now
@@glutenfreesr9858 - I haven't been called that name in years.
@@ChrisHaye Yeah but ever other Sim Tuber is now 😄
Terrible ending
Let the man appease the algorithm in at least one way cmon
Spot on. 😆
why?
@@mattgtm the rest of the video was so good, the end felt kinda underwhelming
Modded assetto corsa is the only way I can drive so many of my favourite cars from Australia