Carls gameplay overhaul offers robbers and alarms, but it has a lot of other features and you can’t call the cops only fight the robbers. The other features can all be switched off, though.
Okay so here's the thing in having the different background traits that you can add using mods it helps to cultivate more autonomous interactions but it requires really making sure all your Sims have background traits in order to have key points for other Sims to respond to I don't know that it is acute as it was in The Sims 2 but it seems to help. The annoying part is that you have to keep up on your updates because of all of game updates. The whole topic of this video is when that the Sims team should seriously address instead of continuing to give us all of the fluffy broken stuff that they keep coming up with
I remember in one of my sims 3 game, my sims got regularly robbed by the same guy, and the cops never managed to catch him, so i made him marry a brave woman, i then had her master the martial art and athletic skills, and the next time the guy robbed me, he got his ass OBLITERATED by my wife and never came back.
In fairness, they SIGNIFICANTLY increase skill building for relevant skills which is really handy for me because I’m one of those perfectionist max out every skill Sims players. They don’t do much else however, and the Sims 3 system worked much better for my style of play anyway (my sim’s mood is either good or bad, so I just keep her happy rather than making her ‘Inspired’ or ‘Confident’
True. The sims in sims 2 were unhinged. Did a roommate of 4 girl sims, and every time I turned my back from my PC, I comeback to hands being thrown between two or three girls. The different personalities were too impactful I guess 😅
what i’d love to see is a one sided relationship thing like imagine timmy turner’s dad and dinkleburg(as sims) and timmy’s daddy relationship is fully red and when you switch to dinkleburg his is completely green maybe with a “become best friends” option i don’t know the thought just makes me giggle
This would finally allow me to use the Sims to play out some of my stories! I've tried making my OCs in the game, but it's just no fun when I can't replicate their complex relationships during gameplay.
Also: isn't Vlad (Vampires DLC) breaking into your Sim's house triggering? Sure, he doesn't steal your Sims' stuff, "just" drinks plasma from one of the residents. Logic...
I'm so confused by what they consider too triggering vs not too triggering. How is being burglarized more triggering than being set on fire or having your house burn down? Or more triggering than drowning? It's strange.
Wasn’t the whole “burglars are triggerring” thing just a hoax intended to stir the culture war pot? I’m pretty sure the Sims Team has officially said that it isn’t actually the reason why burglars aren’t in the game.
Regardless there’s no reason to not have burglars. And they shot themselves in the foot creating towns/lots that would be inaccessible to vehicles. lazy
@@Xxsorafanright? Like they already have vampires break in and they have repo men and stealing legit they wouldn’t have to do anything extra in terms of animations just make some criminal specific NPCs break in and steal something
One thing I want is for events that are supposed to be devastating to be DEVASTATING. Why does my sim mourn over the death of her husband for only a few seconds, only to go back to being happy because she likes how her house is decorated? And why does she forget it ever happened after only TWO DAYS of grieving? 😭
The game is so confusing to me. I’ve had sims set their house on fire and put everyone in danger and be fine right after. But the cat died and the whole household was depressed for such a long time that I had to use cheats so they’d be happy again. I’m not saying one is worse than the other, I just don’t understand why some feelings last longer in the sims and others don’t.
My sims mourned over someone they just met for at least a months time. I would get them happy and then as soon as I sat back they would mourn again and the count down would keep resetting. It would say something like 30s and then switch back up to like 2hrs or something
One of my sims didnt even mourn his dads death!! I dont know if its because they had a difficult dynamic of what but he didnt even get a sad moodlet (even tho he witnessed his death) ???
When I was a kid, I made my sims family go to the beach. I didn't realize my sims were cooking something. The house caught fire. My sims went home to look at the fire. The fire department couldn't get to the fire, and the parents died. The children refused to do anything but scream about the fire, and I helplessly watched as they slowly starved, until they got taken away. Good times!
@@genericname2747 I know that in Sims 4, children who are taken by a social worker are completely deleted from the game BUT in Sims 3 all children who were taken by social workers go to the npc pool, that is, if your children knew someone in town, children from another family, any other neighbor sim, then you could play for that family and invite them to visit and add them with cheat. Although toddlers can only be added through nraas, we can't invite them
BEING a burglar could be such a fun pop up event if your sim is in the criminal career. A little something to offset having such a low pay for so long and can be completely optional like those other "do you want to gain fame and lose your job" popups Get Famous has. Literally "Do you want to volunteer for this burglary (starts event) or would you rather tell the boss you'll sit this one out (your life remains unchanged)" just imagine how cool that could be. We have fully interactive jobs and work from home jobs so why not interactive events at jobs? The game has a tutorial too so you wouldn't get thrown into the fire, they'll tell you how it works and how to steal and how to get out before the cops show up. Mischief might even be a good skill since I think it influences how well you can steal as a Klepto sim
it was fun that in the sims 3 if your sim was a criminal they could actually go to jail. and instead of working they would just sit in a cell at the police station. I thought that was cool
I don't really like violence, but it is true that it is too boring when nothing bad happens to the Sims. My sims should be able to be rejected when flirting, they should be able to meet a person that is really mean to them every time they encounter, that they fear that encounter. I would love the return of the burglars. I don't want to control everything. I want to have to be careful to avoid bad things from happening.
I loved the wishes and fears in Sims 2. Some we're very generic for all Sims but sometimes they referred to actual events that Had happened or could happen. Like: they wanna propose to that Sim but they also fear they might reject the proposal 😂
I would honestly adore a bulgur update that was like sneaky like they didn’t tell anyone about it they’d be like bug fixes or something and then just out of nowhere burglary
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT!!! I remember (this is just an example) in the sims 3 University loving to graffiti as I found it therapeutic but being TERRIFIED of being arrested for it! Why can we do these things in the sims 4 like fight other sims, graffiti etc but have fear of zero punishment? I'd love a system like that. Atm everyone can just do whatever and its fine 🙈
Yeah and also curfew as well! Currently as it stands, a CHILD (not even teen) Sim can travel to any location, alone, without adult supervision, at 3am. Like, aren’t their parents worried?
Literally Sims 4 is just so easy. The thing that made sims 1 and 2 so interesting was the difficulty. It made you feel good when you got a promotion, or when you made friends with someone, or achieved wants in sims 2. I miss burglars, i miss nonreciprocal relationships, i miss consequences for failure! Its a life sim, give me some things to triumph over other than a long list of unaddressed bugs.
yeah i wish when my sims got sick, they had to go to the doctor instead of just grab medicine from the stash in the fridge. but i just know if ea implemented this, it would be just as annoying as constantly sick pets 🤦🏼 if only they could pull it off
omg yes. in the sims 2 when ur sims get sick it is actually a hassle. my sim was just sick and kept throwing up and WOULD NOT rest even when I forced her too. took 3 sim days of just resting to recover!
I think the "it's triggering" excuse is ridiculous when it comes to burglars. When my sister and I were kids the music (Sims 2 burglary music) scared my sister. So you know what she did? Turned the sound off at night. All they gotta do is have an option to turn burglars off.
But then they’d have to go to the effort of actually coding burglars into the game. They might even have to finally code vehicles so a police car can show up to the lot! And we can’t have THAT! I mean come on, what are we? Monsters? Asking a company who’s job it is to code stuff to… do their job? They shouldn’t have to do their job! They should be allowed to just do nothing and collect money!
@@ladyalicent705 Man, I actually had my mom look for her original sims 2 discs because I got super frustrated and bored with Sims 4 and found out my sister's pc was vista compatible (meaning 32 bit) AND the computer had a CD ROM so I decided screw the Sims 4, lemme go back some years.
I would make evil sims immune to sad divorce or death moodlets, instead they’d get a “Good Riddance” moodlet where they feel happy. I’d make “give a sim pufferfish nigiri”, “shove a child”, “destroy property”, and “Sabotage a coworker” would be regularly occurring wants. With the destroy property and sabotage coworker wants, I’d also make it so that evil sims could go into their neighbors house uninvited (sims still inside) and go in and destroy an object, and that they could sabotage their coworkers progress from a promotion without a workplace rival. Doing this interaction also gives a chance for your sim to come back home with a stolen lunch or lunchbox. Evil sims would also be able to kick down mailboxes for fun. I’d make it so that evil sims could steal pets from other households, but it would be like, 1 per week. This and the destroy an object would have toggles to turn it off, for both other sims, and the current household, so that you could do it without the risk of it happening back, or not at all if you’re just not comfortable with that in your game.
Omg, you know how every moodlet has a tooltip? I just thought of the PERFECT one for ‘Good Riddance’ moodlet: The legendary CallMeKevin quote: “Deepest Sympathies! As if I ever cared about him!”
I feel like the issue with burglary being triggering could be easily solved by adding an option to toggle it on ans off in the gameplay menu. Maybe even have it automatically off to avoid any issues. Actually, I think a whole "added difficulty" menu would be cool
Might be in the minority but unplanned pregnancies and teen pregnancies. I think it could lend to some drama if we had those. Patent sims bein either extremely ticked at a teen pregnancy or supportive depending on their traits. Plus just having a sim that hates children being involved in the unplanned pregnancy might spice that trait up in sims who have it. Maybe give them the option to abandon the child at any lifestage the kid is in.
If you want some mod reccomendations - MCCC has an option to allow for teen pregnancies and for there to be a random chance for a pregnancy to occur during a normal woohoo. Relationship and pregnancy overhaul (RPO) is really modular and customizable and it has some focused specifically on teen pregnancies and unwanted pregnancies (never played with the former but the parts that I play with arereally good!) There's also sfw version of wicked whims (don't remember the name, sorry!) Whuch also adds some relationship focused stuff, including stuff for unwanted pregnancies!
@@warmtoastsarethebest8856 Unfortunately I am a console player and at this point have put in too much money on the console version to switch now. We were only able to get a computer in the last year or so...
Personally, while I think unplanned pregnancies are a really *good* idea, I think it’s a really *bad* idea to have teen pregnancies. Teens are off-limits to young adult and older sims, implying that they’re minors. I don’t want a feature that has minors having sex with each other, toggle or no toggle, euphemistically or otherwise. Yeah, it’s something that happens in real life, but giving that agency to a player creates intention, motivation, and opportunity. The implications of the situation are nothing short of dark. I fundamentally cannot understand why anyone wants this in a life simulator. That is an insanely creepy mechanic to have.
@@GenreChowderStudios @GenreChowderStudios I can certainly understand why they wouldn't add it and I DON'T want young adults and older to have access to teen sims in that way at all. However, teen sims can "Mess Around" with each other which involves all the same animations as "WooHoo" between older sims in all the same locations "Woohoo" can occur. Messing Around counts as "first woohoo" in the milestones as well for the Teens (Though I wouldn't be surprised my game was glitched, it's Sims 4 after all). This kinda makes it seem like they're the same thing under different names. It would be nice if the Sims confirmed how old Teen sims because in some ways I agree with you, they seem like they were meant to be minors (no romance options with adult sims even if they started dating as teens but one aged up before the other) but in others they seem like they're 18-19 since they basically have their own woohoo mechanic with the adult animations that they shouldn't have access to if they are true minors. Teens in Sims 4 confuse me and I often find my self bouncing back and forth on the teen pregnancy thing in all honesty.
i just feel like other sims games allowed you less control over every detail. in ts2, you would get demoted or fired for absolutely no reason somewhat often and it sucked but it kept the game interesting. i miss not having to control every single tiny aspect of my gameplay
This, absolutely! There were hidden things you couldn't access in TS2 and TS3. But i can make my picture perfect life for my sims in 4 with a few clicks. It gets boring very quick. Without that in ts2 and 3, it felt a little like my sims were truly their own people with their own whims and dreams and wills.
I killed one of my sims off for the first time thanks to the health redux mod, I felt AWFUL cause their family was so cute but it made for a really cute lore addition where after they died, their parents and their wife's parents pitched in to help take care of their little kids cause they died after having their second baby and the wife was on her own taking care of two babies, so her parents moved in and her in laws helped and she got remarried later and now they have like 6 kids. This literally would not have ever happened in a normal sims game :| also was able to have a funeral with mortem mod! Makes death more emotional and it makes sims feel closer with those they lost as they can hold funerals for people who die in their immediate families.
If murder is added to any sims game, it would change the rating from teen to mature. This is why you need mods. Maxis doesn't want Sims to have an M rating. If burglars are added it more than likely won't work the same as previous games because of the way Sims4 is. The teen rating mandates that Evil sims are more comical than actually evil, because again that would change the rating. Yes, many adults play Sims4, but it's still and will likely always be a teen game. I just had a family that all hated each other stay over. All they did was constantly fight each other and they were all mad all the time.
Comical evil is still evil. In the Sims3 evil sims could steal candy from a baby, aliens can raid a community lot, mean sims in the Sims2 could start fights and steal stuff (like your newspaper or lawn gnome)...
I agree that murder is too far lol BUT I will say that it still could be like, more fighting and stuff? like if you get in a fight your sim has negative consequences from loosing the fight (walking with a limp or smth) and also, in the sims 2 it was very very very VERY heavily suggested that olive specter was a serial killer who had a child with the grim reaper lol. so it's not completely impossible to have darker themes in sims games! they've done it before, but why they dont want to do it again is beyond me (money? not wanting to upset people? laziness? all three?)
I used the EV mod in one of my games to make a serial unaliver... she kept the urns of everyone she killed and one of the ghosts came to haunt her house, saw her, got furious at the enemy, and murdled her.. it was AMAZING
I feel like that would be fun to have burglars again cause you could also have it corelate with the aggressive pet type. Like I think It would be funny to have an aggressive dog or cat scare a burglar off (for In game purposes only)
Agreed!! TS4 is way too safe! Maybe check out Sacrificial’s Life Tragedies mod. I haven’t tried it yet, but I plan to once I’m finished this dang 100 baby challenge…
although I do agree with the other points, I think the last one is a *little* too extreme even for an older sims game. Perhaps if implemented in an undirect way? By giving certain sims the ability to sabotage some devices and the next sim using them has a small chance of kicking the bucket when under negative moodlets. Another, evily cackling sim adding a drop of difficult to gain not-good-for-you sauce on an unattended dish that by default only causes its eaters to feel nauseous, but has that chance of doing something more permanent. Perhaps a spellcaster learning a high-level spell (a curse) that when cast on a sim, gives them a special moodlet and a period of time during which they can try to cure it or wait it out and suffer the deadly consequences (thinking of the mummy curse in sims 3). Stuff like that, maybe? Anyway, great video!
or they could make robbery a feature to turn off, or you decide "should the savefile be a save haven or be dramatic" it's just so childfriendly I can't play without mods anymore
I'd LOVE if they made a game pack that focused on being a true villain & adding drama. Since it would be paid DLC, you have to make the effort to "buy in" so using the excuse of triggers wouldn't matter. To add onto your suggestions: Maybe Sims could craft poisons that have a chance of killing their enemies, with another chance that the intended target only gets sick & is now suspicious and further ignites their feud. Along with burglars, have Sims actively start fires to sabotage businesses or ruin their enemies' property. It could add some much needed fun & chaos into the game for sure!
more evil sim things would be helpful but there is always the method of grow a cowplant in your home, trick a sim into thinking they are your friend, lock em in the room with the cowplant and dont feed either of them until that sim is gobbled up XD or have one of those shark/pirahna ponds from get famous and similarly trick em into joining your household then make em jump in, but cowplant is easier, everyone likes cake XD
I NEED "hates children" parents to LOATH baby care. Actual child abuse in the social interactions, extra negative moodlets when changing diaper or when the infant calls for them
waiiiit- you're so right!!! If there was just more bad possible to happen to sims and more danger then you'd have to be more careful. You'd have to actually think about if you should do something. If things could ruin your sims that would be so much more fun. Right now you can fr just always change your mind and go back and forth however you want
Being back a lot of the weird sims 2 interactions and events like the social bunny and getting hit by a satillite randomly and getting abducted by aliens and having an alien baby
I want unbalanced relationships. Like a sim who's obsessed with someone else, deeply in love, maybe even stalking them, but their feelings are not returned. Maybe the other sim is annoyed or even scared of them. It would make jealousy so much more interesting. Especially if the sim is already in a relationship. Right now, the only way to gather romantic points is by doing romatic things and the points are raising simultaneosly. Which means, the sim in a relationship cheats on their s.o. and gets romantic points, if a third sim tries to flirt with them. I want one-sided friendship and one-sided love. Give me the drama, the jealousy. And the crushes. It's nice they added having a crush with high school, but it barely does anything. I want my sims to fall in love with each other or with another sim, without using obvious flirting.
Great ideas. I have a couple counterpoints though. With regard to burglaries, you've gotta add something a bit strong as a deterrent. Also, they've gotta fix people just randomly entering your house uninvited (as it would cheapen burglaries because everyone could do it whenever). Fighting a burglar would be meaningless unless Sim power was defined. Had a paparazzi enter my 4-star celeb's house through the pool area and I caught her (yes, her) going up the stairs to the second floor. *_Where my children were._* I wasn't about to have a Lindbergh baby situation. So, my young adult, maxed fitness, Playmaker on Britechester's soccer team, max wellness Sim fought her.....and LOST ("beaten up" moodlet). To an Elder. In reality, that person would be in a leather bag in the back of a wagon under the same circumstances (castle doctrine) and few people would feel bad about it. OR, I could have security handle them (butlers are useless). I don't mind burglaries or similar acts as long as the player has a way (outside of MCCC) to combat it. Alarms, electric fences, razor wire fences, home defense abilities, whatever. I handled the paparazzi using an ingame mechanic. Had my wife give her a bouquet scented with death flower. Also, you can already unalive Sims. Death flower scented bouquets and there is at least one spell or potion from Realm of Magic with a similar mechanic. Also, hematite jewelry would ostensibly make you immune to that, as would the potion of rejuvenation or having a friend/spouse hand Grim a death flower.
I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so agree with this video. When I was playing The Sims 2 500 years ago I used to be afraid to even leave my son alone for a minute because they would do very strange things without me prompting them to now it's nothing like that on Sims 4. At the same time once you've added all of the mods and all the accessories that (thank God for modders )we have available you can kind of get back to that level. Although nothing surprised me more than when I moved a new girl into a household of three or maybe four other girls I can't remember how many they were but the original girls all started ganging up on the other girl and fighting with her to the point where I had to take her out of the house or there was going to be blood. It started mild and escalated slowly over a period of time to were... first they were giving her side eye to the next thing you know they're brawling in the middle of the kitchen.... when she walked by they act like she smelled even though she would have just had a bath and They carried on so atrociously that I ended up taking all the doors off of the house and letting them die inside after I moved her out
As someone who has a couple random little triggers, I get why they wouldn't put some stuff. HOWEVER, I think they should be toggled. I turned off thunderstorms, not because of a trigger, but because they're too dang loud for my autistic self. Things should have toggles, dangit!
idea: we have evil sims defaulting to do evil things from small things like pranking objects (toilets), stealing or tripping other sims, not paying bills, etc.
I've mostly grown up playing the sims 4, but before I got it I had base game sims 3 on my Xbox. I'll never forget the guy who came in to their house, took their flamingo decoration and sink and then left. They were poor and had just had a baby, I was pissed. Still, I had no idea that could happen until it did so I remember it even now. Give us more tragedy sims 4! I don't like the burnout thing, or when something goes wrong career wise, because that just ruins too much. If I want my sims to have a hard time at work I'll make that happen, it doesn't make sense that they get burned out after like 5 normal work days. I want more drama with the sims private lives.
I agree with everything you have said, there is literally no real consequence or drama as a result of a sims bad actions I once created a sim with jealous trait, wants to find soulmate and gloomy aswell as family orientated, I then created another sim that is non-comital, flirty, and mean I got the two sims to date and then got the non commital mean flirty sim to cheat and be distant n bit mean to their partner nothing happened so I got the sim they had cheated with to come over and basically did it infront of their face and literally the same nothing happened also with family dynamics that's also terrible your kid sim can basically do wtf they want and the parent sims do nothing either 😂. Also the breaking in and stealing even if u get caught nothing happens the other sim be mad for all of 10 seconds but u can still carry on. Even using mods like basemental, or sacrificial mods are very limited in terms of consequence because of how vanilla the game has been coded n made. Sometimes playing as a big happy family is so dull that I struggle to complete any of the generation challenges or any other challenge for that matter I just end up keep starting new saves because I'm bored. Thankfully there are some new life sim games out that may give us abit more entertainment I mean I can't honestly believe EA are actually still making packs for sims 4 they need to fix packs that don't actually work I literally can't even go to a restaurant with my sims because I basically pay for food I never recieve and sit waiting for a table til my sim is gonna pass out n have to end up leaving its actually a disgrace even trying to have a wedding is equally as bad no1 actually does what they are meant to so even the family vanilla gameplay they can't even do correctly.
I think maybe the worst thing to happen to me was when i was playing a really large family. one sim had magic and a HUGE fire started bc she lost control and spontaneously combusted. one sim (the dad) died, and one of them had SEVERE burns (thanks to a mod). I had to change the whole storyline i built up in my head bc not only were my sims grieving, they were dealing with disfigurement as well, plus the guilt from the one that SET the fire..... anyway i wish base sims 4 had something like that lmao
On the topic of the sims team removing some features because it might trigger some people, they could just have some toggle options in the settings. Essentially just add the features but make it to where they can be cut off in case it bothersn someone.
I feel like they won't implement the last thing, HOWEVER what they could add is a Sim dying from a vampire bite if they go overboard and drink too much "plasma", dueling (magic) or a fight if they are super low level. Wasn't that a thing in the Sims 2 or am I making it up? I swear there was one Sims game where they could die after a fight. Then the Sim would unintentionally kill another (or maybe a little less unintentional if they are evil). I agree with you about the lack of negative consequences though. I feel like the burglar thing is an excuse! They have fires, repo-people, social services and divorce, all of which can be just as triggering! Granted, that's a little more player directed and can be avoided during gameplay, but all they need to do is add an on / off toggle for burglary and presto!
Fair points. Personally I kind of love the Phineas and Ferb, Doctor Doofenshmirtz level of evil in this game. I have plenty of gritty dark games in my steam library to play if I want to get dark, but that's just me. I respect where you're coming from. I definitely agree that the Extreme Violins mod (mispelling on purpose because I don't know what will ding what social platform moderations these days) is probably the best for the ceasing of being among the living you mentioned.
Lets just get a pack with things like this. That way people that don't want it in their game can avoid it. And/or have a setting to turn such things off. Maybe those who want it sometimes won't at other times. These are the best two ideas I have for bringing more negativity into the game but keeping it "safe" for those who don't want it.
Two negative interactions gameplay mods: Brawling mod, adds things like minor physical violence, groin kick, slap, punch lowlife loser, adds an absurd amount of interactions, tons of things to list here, you can reeaaallly insult people with this one
Evil sim npcs could be made to autonomously use voodoo dolls on ppl. Put gnomes in others yards? Lure someone to a cow plant, and have other more mean and mischief interactions. Especially ones that intersect with the occult. Sims unaliving other sims could be done I think, maybe in a more comical and cheeky way but do able and still keeping from getting a rate change. Like two sims swimming, they playfully splash eachother or something, laugh and one grabs the other and suddenly pulls them under and only one comes back up chuckling creepily to themselves. Or looking around suspiciously as they sprinkle “special seasoning” onto someone’s food. It shouldn’t be so hard for them to be creative. A spellcaster can give a poisoned apple or potion (like TS3) that can be lethal. A vampires bite can be lethal. A werewolf can howl too loud in a sims ear and either cause them too pass out or pass on lmao There’s so much room in the sims to be creative and they miss every opportunity. For some reason npcs and other sims rarely, truly impacts the player. And interactions seem so one sided. The game would be more fun and chaotic if they’d let them be more interactive.
and I wanna rumors, more rumors with option to enable/disable them in game options cuz I know not all people likes it. also... serial killer. we do have option to enable random 'deadly accidents' so why not making mystery about local serial killer randomly making attacks at nights? there could be pop up message who got killed once or twice per sims week and perhaps he could get caught, yknow at least for story telling, and oh cops npcs to make sims arrested by any occasion, it'd be fun.
In order for this to work they would have to fix the sentiments in the game. Currently sims get sentiments like hurt for no reason and they never go away. For instance my toddler sim can’t be near her mom or she feels hurt although they have never had a negative interaction and have full relationship.
With the evil one I agree 😭, I made a family, while making it I planned to make twins, one of them good, the other evil, and I wanted them to hate each-over for drama. After giving them the traits, 2 minutes into playing they were besties and couldn’t stop talking to each-over, I tried forcing the evil one to be mean to the other twin but the other twin didn’t care at all-
In the Sims 2 chance cards, for the upper career levels, if you choose the wrong option you can lose all of your money. Like up to $100,000. It's pretty easy to gain the money back at that point, but holy moly they were not messing around with those chance cards.
I feel like just adding “unalive” and having it be like the already existing death animations would be fun and still family friendly. Kids can create their “edgy murderer oc” and it would still be family friendly
An evil sim can do mean social interactions; more like what bad people do in the real world (hey, this isn't a shoot-em-up). The exact actions they take are up to you. When I end up with sims who I deem are "bad people", I have them torment sims who aren't one of them, and when they interact with each other, I restrict actions that are too kind, deep, or insecure. If you want to enhance this, I recommend the "Life Tragedies" mod. Click on another sim and choose an option from the "Bullying" subcategory.
I really wish pregnancy loss was included in the game weirdly. It’s just odd that not only can pregnant sims not die, but literally nothing can go wrong until the baby is a kid. I get not showing baby and child deaths, but a tasteful pop up could make the game more dynamic.
One of my favorite aspects of having an enemy in older games was your Sim having the want to see their enemy as a ghost, implying they wanted that Sim to die. It wasn't even enough for that person to be dead, they wanted that mfer to have unfinished business
Negative supernatural sims. Like being able to become a zombie on accident from being cursed by tomb treasure, tomb guardians or spellcasters. Ghosts comaround every night. More mean magic from spellcasters and maybe fearies in the future. Actual bears that can maul you and moose that can trample you instead of the bear costume wearing nonsense we got. Cemeteries with the tomb dwelling from sims 3. Stuff you build as an inventor just exploding or combusting and setting your house on fire if you fail bad enough. Fire fighting career with a potential for catasthrophic failure.
The Sims (And I think the deep Life Sim genre generally), at it's best, is a means of storytelling via collaboration between the player and the computer at it's core. ...Which requires the computer to be willing to do mean things, because not everything should be a slice of life happy world of joy. There's nothing wrong with that, but there needs to be core systems in the game that allows for negative things to happen when not directed by the player (maybe with the ability to turn them off). And, sure, _I_ could enact those negative things... But I can also write a story myself and if the game isn't contributing to the storytelling process why am I playing it? (Plus 'my sim was robbed' - delete the item, call the money I got from selling it insurance money - isn't having the same weight on the character in gameplay than if the old burglar event happened)
Id like diseases and illnesses. You could have mad scientists creating diseases, good doctors discovering cures, random viruses swoop through and affect half the town (like flu season), people who get vaccinations and ones who refuse and dont trust doctors, AND more importantly your sims can die from untreated ailments. Every Sim game, I make horror game based characters (like silent hill or something, Maria with her aggressive pet dog pyramid head who actively hates James Sunderland while she is inexplicably attracted to him and oddly looks like his wife Mary. That kind of stuff), and a lot of them have tragic stories where loved ones ded from diseases. Having them get locked up and starved to death just leaves something to be desired.
in the sims 3, my brother made our young cousins as sims and at the time on of my cousins bit myy brother quite often so je gave him the evil trait, first thing he did was steal candy from a baby
I remember going broke renovating my house for my twins in the Sims 2. Then a burglar stole my fridge, tv and shower, so the parents nearly died as I scrambled to raise enough to get a fridge again, but then after I had little to no money for food...
7:24 you’re fine. I was thinking about sim racism because it would add realism and capability for storytelling, but why would we want to add a problem in the real world into the Sims? That’s not nice……… plus I like the idea of Sims not being assholes to each other because of where they came from only for who they are.
The whole university pack is triggering for me. (That’s why I only played it once) Also, what about fire? Are there no people who lost family members or their house in a fire?
Lmao no you’re so real for that-I quit the sims a while ago but GOD did I want murder SO BAD. No goofy deaths! I wanted drama! I wanted scheming! I wanted some cool plots to play out! I hated that the malice and intent to kill another sim was never from one of my sims-they make it so it HAS to be from you, the player, exclusively. That’s so boring! I had the vampires expansion pack and I wanted so badly to be able to kill someone by drinking their blood, either by doing it too many times in a row or by maybe developing the ability to consume all of someone’s blood. And no, that “drain life energy” or whatever doesn’t count. I don’t care about making a sim lose their memories (although that could be cool as a separate ability, but my focus is killing, not gaslighting rn). I really hate how kid-friendly the game is because it could be really fun with the potential for cruelty and true impact on your world-but it’s been so watered down to be palatable for “all ages” that you can’t REALLY have an impact ever. Seriously. The game is just constant status quo. “You went to fucking SPACE with a spaceship in your backyard? Cool. Here’s some random alien thingy in your inventory. Anyway, don’t forget to get some sleep for tomorrow’s babysitting gig! Oh also Eliza Pancake’s pregnant for the 7th goddamn time.” I also think the removal of police really kills the feeling of consequence. Like if you do something bad, the worst thing that can happen is that people won’t like you. That is it. And that can eventually be fixed because moodlets make sims into bipolar cartoon characters with only short term memory. At this point they’re TRYING to be bland. Give. Us. ANYTHING. 😫
i have a married couple sims and made them both cheat and got a divorce. but after that, they automatically don't resent each other that much and happily talk to each other. broo all that cheating, divorce and arguments didn't do anything like i just want the conflict
I want bullying cuz it makes for good storytelling. If you wanna have someone be bullied your just gunna have to imagine it or cheat to take control of classmates to bully the sim.
More chaos would be so great. The game can be fun but it is so limited in how different the Sims actually are. Like shouldn't your noncommital hates children Sim actually almost never be happy if married with kids?
I was talking about this last night, the sims 4 is so boring because nothing bad ever happens. It’s so safe, so bland. They got rid of almost every single npc when the game released and they’ve still not really added that many back in. Nothing can happen unless you the player decide it, and I hate that. The fun is in working through all the terrible things that happen, not playing a picture perfect sitcom life every single time.
Use this comment to recommend mods that do these things please 😭
Carls gameplay overhaul offers robbers and alarms, but it has a lot of other features and you can’t call the cops only fight the robbers. The other features can all be switched off, though.
Extreme violence mod has murder and physical violence 😭
Will the first thing you need is MC Command Center I had never play without it
The sacrificial mods help to round things out
Okay so here's the thing in having the different background traits that you can add using mods it helps to cultivate more autonomous interactions but it requires really making sure all your Sims have background traits in order to have key points for other Sims to respond to I don't know that it is acute as it was in The Sims 2 but it seems to help. The annoying part is that you have to keep up on your updates because of all of game updates. The whole topic of this video is when that the Sims team should seriously address instead of continuing to give us all of the fluffy broken stuff that they keep coming up with
I remember in one of my sims 3 game, my sims got regularly robbed by the same guy, and the cops never managed to catch him, so i made him marry a brave woman, i then had her master the martial art and athletic skills, and the next time the guy robbed me, he got his ass OBLITERATED by my wife and never came back.
What a woman
Ah yes my favorite dynamic
so iconic i love her always
I had that first part happen SO MANY TIMES in one save it drove me mad 😭
Even when I had the alarm
Can we all agree Sims 3 was the best! Especially World Adventures, I love exploring and learning karate!
The developers were so focused on the fact that their new Sims had EMOTIONS that they forgot to make those emotions actually affect anything 😑
In fairness, they SIGNIFICANTLY increase skill building for relevant skills which is really handy for me because I’m one of those perfectionist max out every skill Sims players. They don’t do much else however, and the Sims 3 system worked much better for my style of play anyway (my sim’s mood is either good or bad, so I just keep her happy rather than making her ‘Inspired’ or ‘Confident’
I need cheating drama so BAD. Nothing compares to sims 2 DRAMA.
The flowers after a date was my favorite thing lol. The cars. The clubs. The restaurants
A nice detail in TS2 is that children who witness a parent having an affair can snitch to the other parent
@@EnigmaticLucas Really? I had no idea
Better test it out🤭
100% correct.
True. The sims in sims 2 were unhinged. Did a roommate of 4 girl sims, and every time I turned my back from my PC, I comeback to hands being thrown between two or three girls. The different personalities were too impactful I guess 😅
what i’d love to see is a one sided relationship thing like imagine timmy turner’s dad and dinkleburg(as sims) and timmy’s daddy relationship is fully red and when you switch to dinkleburg his is completely green maybe with a “become best friends” option i don’t know the thought just makes me giggle
This is such a good idea I love it
I've been wanting that FOR SO LONG
I'm low-key surprised it's not a mod given how ambitious the modding community is
This would finally allow me to use the Sims to play out some of my stories! I've tried making my OCs in the game, but it's just no fun when I can't replicate their complex relationships during gameplay.
If the sims think it could be triggering they cold always add a “trigger settings” where you can just switch certain activities on/off
Omfg if burglaries are triggering just make them an optional setting. THAT is how you make things accessible. They’re just LAZY.
Also: isn't Vlad (Vampires DLC) breaking into your Sim's house triggering? Sure, he doesn't steal your Sims' stuff, "just" drinks plasma from one of the residents. Logic...
I'm so confused by what they consider too triggering vs not too triggering. How is being burglarized more triggering than being set on fire or having your house burn down? Or more triggering than drowning? It's strange.
Wasn’t the whole “burglars are triggerring” thing just a hoax intended to stir the culture war pot?
I’m pretty sure the Sims Team has officially said that it isn’t actually the reason why burglars aren’t in the game.
Regardless there’s no reason to not have burglars. And they shot themselves in the foot creating towns/lots that would be inaccessible to vehicles. lazy
@@Xxsorafanright? Like they already have vampires break in and they have repo men and stealing legit they wouldn’t have to do anything extra in terms of animations just make some criminal specific NPCs break in and steal something
One thing I want is for events that are supposed to be devastating to be DEVASTATING.
Why does my sim mourn over the death of her husband for only a few seconds, only to go back to being happy because she likes how her house is decorated? And why does she forget it ever happened after only TWO DAYS of grieving? 😭
Lol yeah i want sim's grief to work like fears
The game is so confusing to me. I’ve had sims set their house on fire and put everyone in danger and be fine right after. But the cat died and the whole household was depressed for such a long time that I had to use cheats so they’d be happy again. I’m not saying one is worse than the other, I just don’t understand why some feelings last longer in the sims and others don’t.
My sims mourned over someone they just met for at least a months time. I would get them happy and then as soon as I sat back they would mourn again and the count down would keep resetting. It would say something like 30s and then switch back up to like 2hrs or something
One of my sims didnt even mourn his dads death!! I dont know if its because they had a difficult dynamic of what but he didnt even get a sad moodlet (even tho he witnessed his death) ???
The worst that happened to my Sims was the children dying in a fire and ending their lineage
missing that thing from Sims 3, where after a meteorite hit the school during school hours, all children who were there die
When I was a kid, I made my sims family go to the beach.
I didn't realize my sims were cooking something.
The house caught fire. My sims went home to look at the fire.
The fire department couldn't get to the fire, and the parents died.
The children refused to do anything but scream about the fire, and I helplessly watched as they slowly starved, until they got taken away.
Good times!
@@Tevi_L7151 I fear it so much, but that's what makes me happy about it
@@genericname2747 I know that in Sims 4, children who are taken by a social worker are completely deleted from the game
BUT in Sims 3 all children who were taken by social workers go to the npc pool, that is, if your children knew someone in town, children from another family, any other neighbor sim, then you could play for that family and invite them to visit and add them with cheat. Although toddlers can only be added through nraas, we can't invite them
BEING a burglar could be such a fun pop up event if your sim is in the criminal career. A little something to offset having such a low pay for so long and can be completely optional like those other "do you want to gain fame and lose your job" popups Get Famous has. Literally "Do you want to volunteer for this burglary (starts event) or would you rather tell the boss you'll sit this one out (your life remains unchanged)" just imagine how cool that could be. We have fully interactive jobs and work from home jobs so why not interactive events at jobs? The game has a tutorial too so you wouldn't get thrown into the fire, they'll tell you how it works and how to steal and how to get out before the cops show up. Mischief might even be a good skill since I think it influences how well you can steal as a Klepto sim
it was fun that in the sims 3 if your sim was a criminal they could actually go to jail. and instead of working they would just sit in a cell at the police station. I thought that was cool
I don't really like violence, but it is true that it is too boring when nothing bad happens to the Sims. My sims should be able to be rejected when flirting, they should be able to meet a person that is really mean to them every time they encounter, that they fear that encounter. I would love the return of the burglars. I don't want to control everything. I want to have to be careful to avoid bad things from happening.
I loved the wishes and fears in Sims 2. Some we're very generic for all Sims but sometimes they referred to actual events that Had happened or could happen. Like: they wanna propose to that Sim but they also fear they might reject the proposal 😂
If they’re afraid to trigger people, they can just make it an option in the gameplay menu to be able to be robbed or not.
I would honestly adore a bulgur update that was like sneaky like they didn’t tell anyone about it they’d be like bug fixes or something and then just out of nowhere burglary
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT!!! I remember (this is just an example) in the sims 3 University loving to graffiti as I found it therapeutic but being TERRIFIED of being arrested for it! Why can we do these things in the sims 4 like fight other sims, graffiti etc but have fear of zero punishment? I'd love a system like that. Atm everyone can just do whatever and its fine 🙈
in the sims 2 if you sneak out you can be busted by the cops! super cool
Yeah and also curfew as well! Currently as it stands, a CHILD (not even teen) Sim can travel to any location, alone, without adult supervision, at 3am. Like, aren’t their parents worried?
Literally Sims 4 is just so easy. The thing that made sims 1 and 2 so interesting was the difficulty. It made you feel good when you got a promotion, or when you made friends with someone, or achieved wants in sims 2.
I miss burglars, i miss nonreciprocal relationships, i miss consequences for failure! Its a life sim, give me some things to triumph over other than a long list of unaddressed bugs.
I thought a better illness and injury system, requiring hospital checks maybe hospitalization or surgery, staying home from work stuff like that
yeah i wish when my sims got sick, they had to go to the doctor instead of just grab medicine from the stash in the fridge. but i just know if ea implemented this, it would be just as annoying as constantly sick pets 🤦🏼 if only they could pull it off
omg yes. in the sims 2 when ur sims get sick it is actually a hassle. my sim was just sick and kept throwing up and WOULD NOT rest even when I forced her too. took 3 sim days of just resting to recover!
a.deep.indigo has various health mods that add these kinds of features! Some are base game, some need GTW, but all are really good
You might be intrested by the Healthcare redux mod by deepindigo!
Constipation stuff and the like is what wee need in 4.
I think the "it's triggering" excuse is ridiculous when it comes to burglars. When my sister and I were kids the music (Sims 2 burglary music) scared my sister. So you know what she did? Turned the sound off at night. All they gotta do is have an option to turn burglars off.
But then they’d have to go to the effort of actually coding burglars into the game. They might even have to finally code vehicles so a police car can show up to the lot! And we can’t have THAT!
I mean come on, what are we? Monsters? Asking a company who’s job it is to code stuff to… do their job? They shouldn’t have to do their job! They should be allowed to just do nothing and collect money!
@@ladyalicent705 Man, I actually had my mom look for her original sims 2 discs because I got super frustrated and bored with Sims 4 and found out my sister's pc was vista compatible (meaning 32 bit) AND the computer had a CD ROM so I decided screw the Sims 4, lemme go back some years.
I would make evil sims immune to sad divorce or death moodlets, instead they’d get a “Good Riddance” moodlet where they feel happy.
I’d make “give a sim pufferfish nigiri”, “shove a child”, “destroy property”, and “Sabotage a coworker” would be regularly occurring wants.
With the destroy property and sabotage coworker wants, I’d also make it so that evil sims could go into their neighbors house uninvited (sims still inside) and go in and destroy an object, and that they could sabotage their coworkers progress from a promotion without a workplace rival. Doing this interaction also gives a chance for your sim to come back home with a stolen lunch or lunchbox.
Evil sims would also be able to kick down mailboxes for fun.
I’d make it so that evil sims could steal pets from other households, but it would be like, 1 per week. This and the destroy an object would have toggles to turn it off, for both other sims, and the current household, so that you could do it without the risk of it happening back, or not at all if you’re just not comfortable with that in your game.
Omg, you know how every moodlet has a tooltip? I just thought of the PERFECT one for ‘Good Riddance’ moodlet:
The legendary CallMeKevin quote: “Deepest Sympathies! As if I ever cared about him!”
I agree with this video 100%
Also Carl's Gameplay Overhaul mod allows you to add burglars back to the game
Whhaaatttt?! 🤣♥️
ty for the info!!
I miss having enemy because I will raise my athletic skill to win a fight against them.
You can have enemies in sims 4...
I feel like the issue with burglary being triggering could be easily solved by adding an option to toggle it on ans off in the gameplay menu. Maybe even have it automatically off to avoid any issues. Actually, I think a whole "added difficulty" menu would be cool
7:57 evil sims in TS3 can throw an apocalyptic attack at places with alien spaceship
Mods I would recommend:
Basemental (to get sims hooked on stuff.)
Sacrifical Mods (Lifes Drama and Extreme V Mod)
These are the most well-known mods.
agree so much about the evil trait. mean sims go around causing more problems than evil sims on their own, how is that! it does nothing
Might be in the minority but unplanned pregnancies and teen pregnancies. I think it could lend to some drama if we had those. Patent sims bein either extremely ticked at a teen pregnancy or supportive depending on their traits. Plus just having a sim that hates children being involved in the unplanned pregnancy might spice that trait up in sims who have it. Maybe give them the option to abandon the child at any lifestage the kid is in.
If you want some mod reccomendations - MCCC has an option to allow for teen pregnancies and for there to be a random chance for a pregnancy to occur during a normal woohoo.
Relationship and pregnancy overhaul (RPO) is really modular and customizable and it has some focused specifically on teen pregnancies and unwanted pregnancies (never played with the former but the parts that I play with arereally good!)
There's also sfw version of wicked whims (don't remember the name, sorry!) Whuch also adds some relationship focused stuff, including stuff for unwanted pregnancies!
Not in the minority, I just recently downloaded some mods for an unplanned teen pregnancy plot line
@@warmtoastsarethebest8856 Unfortunately I am a console player and at this point have put in too much money on the console version to switch now. We were only able to get a computer in the last year or so...
Personally, while I think unplanned pregnancies are a really *good* idea, I think it’s a really *bad* idea to have teen pregnancies. Teens are off-limits to young adult and older sims, implying that they’re minors. I don’t want a feature that has minors having sex with each other, toggle or no toggle, euphemistically or otherwise.
Yeah, it’s something that happens in real life, but giving that agency to a player creates intention, motivation, and opportunity. The implications of the situation are nothing short of dark. I fundamentally cannot understand why anyone wants this in a life simulator. That is an insanely creepy mechanic to have.
@@GenreChowderStudios @GenreChowderStudios I can certainly understand why they wouldn't add it and I DON'T want young adults and older to have access to teen sims in that way at all. However, teen sims can "Mess Around" with each other which involves all the same animations as "WooHoo" between older sims in all the same locations "Woohoo" can occur. Messing Around counts as "first woohoo" in the milestones as well for the Teens (Though I wouldn't be surprised my game was glitched, it's Sims 4 after all). This kinda makes it seem like they're the same thing under different names. It would be nice if the Sims confirmed how old Teen sims because in some ways I agree with you, they seem like they were meant to be minors (no romance options with adult sims even if they started dating as teens but one aged up before the other) but in others they seem like they're 18-19 since they basically have their own woohoo mechanic with the adult animations that they shouldn't have access to if they are true minors. Teens in Sims 4 confuse me and I often find my self bouncing back and forth on the teen pregnancy thing in all honesty.
i just feel like other sims games allowed you less control over every detail. in ts2, you would get demoted or fired for absolutely no reason somewhat often and it sucked but it kept the game interesting. i miss not having to control every single tiny aspect of my gameplay
This, absolutely! There were hidden things you couldn't access in TS2 and TS3. But i can make my picture perfect life for my sims in 4 with a few clicks. It gets boring very quick. Without that in ts2 and 3, it felt a little like my sims were truly their own people with their own whims and dreams and wills.
I killed one of my sims off for the first time thanks to the health redux mod, I felt AWFUL cause their family was so cute but it made for a really cute lore addition where after they died, their parents and their wife's parents pitched in to help take care of their little kids cause they died after having their second baby and the wife was on her own taking care of two babies, so her parents moved in and her in laws helped and she got remarried later and now they have like 6 kids. This literally would not have ever happened in a normal sims game :| also was able to have a funeral with mortem mod! Makes death more emotional and it makes sims feel closer with those they lost as they can hold funerals for people who die in their immediate families.
If murder is added to any sims game, it would change the rating from teen to mature. This is why you need mods. Maxis doesn't want Sims to have an M rating. If burglars are added it more than likely won't work the same as previous games because of the way Sims4 is. The teen rating mandates that Evil sims are more comical than actually evil, because again that would change the rating. Yes, many adults play Sims4, but it's still and will likely always be a teen game. I just had a family that all hated each other stay over. All they did was constantly fight each other and they were all mad all the time.
Comical evil is still evil. In the Sims3 evil sims could steal candy from a baby, aliens can raid a community lot, mean sims in the Sims2 could start fights and steal stuff (like your newspaper or lawn gnome)...
Sims 2 was rated teen and the content was more.. suggestive. It feels like a proper teen game and sims 4 like a kids game
Sims3 is M rated in my country (not for kids), but Sims4 is PG, so kiddie game.🤷♀️
@@inactivechannel6365 Isn't T the ESRB rating equivalent to MPAA's PG-13?
I agree that murder is too far lol BUT I will say that it still could be like, more fighting and stuff? like if you get in a fight your sim has negative consequences from loosing the fight (walking with a limp or smth) and also, in the sims 2 it was very very very VERY heavily suggested that olive specter was a serial killer who had a child with the grim reaper lol. so it's not completely impossible to have darker themes in sims games! they've done it before, but why they dont want to do it again is beyond me (money? not wanting to upset people? laziness? all three?)
I used the EV mod in one of my games to make a serial unaliver... she kept the urns of everyone she killed and one of the ghosts came to haunt her house, saw her, got furious at the enemy, and murdled her.. it was AMAZING
I feel like that would be fun to have burglars again cause you could also have it corelate with the aggressive pet type. Like I think It would be funny to have an aggressive dog or cat scare a burglar off (for In game purposes only)
Agreed!! TS4 is way too safe! Maybe check out Sacrificial’s Life Tragedies mod. I haven’t tried it yet, but I plan to once I’m finished this dang 100 baby challenge…
although I do agree with the other points, I think the last one is a *little* too extreme even for an older sims game. Perhaps if implemented in an undirect way? By giving certain sims the ability to sabotage some devices and the next sim using them has a small chance of kicking the bucket when under negative moodlets. Another, evily cackling sim adding a drop of difficult to gain not-good-for-you sauce on an unattended dish that by default only causes its eaters to feel nauseous, but has that chance of doing something more permanent. Perhaps a spellcaster learning a high-level spell (a curse) that when cast on a sim, gives them a special moodlet and a period of time during which they can try to cure it or wait it out and suffer the deadly consequences (thinking of the mummy curse in sims 3). Stuff like that, maybe? Anyway, great video!
or they could make robbery a feature to turn off, or you decide "should the savefile be a save haven or be dramatic" it's just so childfriendly I can't play without mods anymore
anyway the sacrificial sims mods would be for you ;)
I wish we could control pets. For those who want their pets to run freely, you should just be able to turn their free will off in settings. Easy.
I'd LOVE if they made a game pack that focused on being a true villain & adding drama. Since it would be paid DLC, you have to make the effort to "buy in" so using the excuse of triggers wouldn't matter.
To add onto your suggestions: Maybe Sims could craft poisons that have a chance of killing their enemies, with another chance that the intended target only gets sick & is now suspicious and further ignites their feud. Along with burglars, have Sims actively start fires to sabotage businesses or ruin their enemies' property. It could add some much needed fun & chaos into the game for sure!
more evil sim things would be helpful but there is always the method of grow a cowplant in your home, trick a sim into thinking they are your friend, lock em in the room with the cowplant and dont feed either of them until that sim is gobbled up XD or have one of those shark/pirahna ponds from get famous and similarly trick em into joining your household then make em jump in, but cowplant is easier, everyone likes cake XD
I NEED "hates children" parents to LOATH baby care. Actual child abuse in the social interactions, extra negative moodlets when changing diaper or when the infant calls for them
There's more drama in Spidey And His Amazing Friends than in TS4 😂😭
waiiiit- you're so right!!! If there was just more bad possible to happen to sims and more danger then you'd have to be more careful. You'd have to actually think about if you should do something. If things could ruin your sims that would be so much more fun. Right now you can fr just always change your mind and go back and forth however you want
Being back a lot of the weird sims 2 interactions and events like the social bunny and getting hit by a satillite randomly and getting abducted by aliens and having an alien baby
I want unbalanced relationships. Like a sim who's obsessed with someone else, deeply in love, maybe even stalking them, but their feelings are not returned. Maybe the other sim is annoyed or even scared of them. It would make jealousy so much more interesting. Especially if the sim is already in a relationship. Right now, the only way to gather romantic points is by doing romatic things and the points are raising simultaneosly. Which means, the sim in a relationship cheats on their s.o. and gets romantic points, if a third sim tries to flirt with them. I want one-sided friendship and one-sided love. Give me the drama, the jealousy. And the crushes. It's nice they added having a crush with high school, but it barely does anything. I want my sims to fall in love with each other or with another sim, without using obvious flirting.
Life’s tragedies but dial it down a bit cuz things just KEPT happening to my sims I think somebody got kidnapped every other day 😂
Great ideas. I have a couple counterpoints though. With regard to burglaries, you've gotta add something a bit strong as a deterrent. Also, they've gotta fix people just randomly entering your house uninvited (as it would cheapen burglaries because everyone could do it whenever). Fighting a burglar would be meaningless unless Sim power was defined. Had a paparazzi enter my 4-star celeb's house through the pool area and I caught her (yes, her) going up the stairs to the second floor. *_Where my children were._* I wasn't about to have a Lindbergh baby situation. So, my young adult, maxed fitness, Playmaker on Britechester's soccer team, max wellness Sim fought her.....and LOST ("beaten up" moodlet). To an Elder. In reality, that person would be in a leather bag in the back of a wagon under the same circumstances (castle doctrine) and few people would feel bad about it. OR, I could have security handle them (butlers are useless). I don't mind burglaries or similar acts as long as the player has a way (outside of MCCC) to combat it. Alarms, electric fences, razor wire fences, home defense abilities, whatever. I handled the paparazzi using an ingame mechanic. Had my wife give her a bouquet scented with death flower. Also, you can already unalive Sims. Death flower scented bouquets and there is at least one spell or potion from Realm of Magic with a similar mechanic. Also, hematite jewelry would ostensibly make you immune to that, as would the potion of rejuvenation or having a friend/spouse hand Grim a death flower.
I hate that in sims 4 you're enemies with someone - they just won't talk to you, they won't argue with your sim or anything, they'll just ignore them😢
3:24 basically summed up how people feel about The Sims 4 in general
I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so agree with this video. When I was playing The Sims 2 500 years ago I used to be afraid to even leave my son alone for a minute because they would do very strange things without me prompting them to now it's nothing like that on Sims 4. At the same time once you've added all of the mods and all the accessories that (thank God for modders )we have available you can kind of get back to that level. Although nothing surprised me more than when I moved a new girl into a household of three or maybe four other girls I can't remember how many they were but the original girls all started ganging up on the other girl and fighting with her to the point where I had to take her out of the house or there was going to be blood. It started mild and escalated slowly over a period of time to were... first they were giving her side eye to the next thing you know they're brawling in the middle of the kitchen.... when she walked by they act like she smelled even though she would have just had a bath and They carried on so atrociously that I ended up taking all the doors off of the house and letting them die inside after I moved her out
As someone who has a couple random little triggers, I get why they wouldn't put some stuff. HOWEVER, I think they should be toggled. I turned off thunderstorms, not because of a trigger, but because they're too dang loud for my autistic self. Things should have toggles, dangit!
idea: we have evil sims defaulting to do evil things from small things like pranking objects (toilets), stealing or tripping other sims, not paying bills, etc.
I've mostly grown up playing the sims 4, but before I got it I had base game sims 3 on my Xbox. I'll never forget the guy who came in to their house, took their flamingo decoration and sink and then left. They were poor and had just had a baby, I was pissed. Still, I had no idea that could happen until it did so I remember it even now. Give us more tragedy sims 4!
I don't like the burnout thing, or when something goes wrong career wise, because that just ruins too much. If I want my sims to have a hard time at work I'll make that happen, it doesn't make sense that they get burned out after like 5 normal work days. I want more drama with the sims private lives.
For the burglaries, they should have an option to turn that feature on and off
I agree with everything you have said, there is literally no real consequence or drama as a result of a sims bad actions I once created a sim with jealous trait, wants to find soulmate and gloomy aswell as family orientated, I then created another sim that is non-comital, flirty, and mean I got the two sims to date and then got the non commital mean flirty sim to cheat and be distant n bit mean to their partner nothing happened so I got the sim they had cheated with to come over and basically did it infront of their face and literally the same nothing happened also with family dynamics that's also terrible your kid sim can basically do wtf they want and the parent sims do nothing either 😂. Also the breaking in and stealing even if u get caught nothing happens the other sim be mad for all of 10 seconds but u can still carry on. Even using mods like basemental, or sacrificial mods are very limited in terms of consequence because of how vanilla the game has been coded n made. Sometimes playing as a big happy family is so dull that I struggle to complete any of the generation challenges or any other challenge for that matter I just end up keep starting new saves because I'm bored. Thankfully there are some new life sim games out that may give us abit more entertainment I mean I can't honestly believe EA are actually still making packs for sims 4 they need to fix packs that don't actually work I literally can't even go to a restaurant with my sims because I basically pay for food I never recieve and sit waiting for a table til my sim is gonna pass out n have to end up leaving its actually a disgrace even trying to have a wedding is equally as bad no1 actually does what they are meant to so even the family vanilla gameplay they can't even do correctly.
I think maybe the worst thing to happen to me was when i was playing a really large family. one sim had magic and a HUGE fire started bc she lost control and spontaneously combusted. one sim (the dad) died, and one of them had SEVERE burns (thanks to a mod). I had to change the whole storyline i built up in my head bc not only were my sims grieving, they were dealing with disfigurement as well, plus the guilt from the one that SET the fire.....
anyway i wish base sims 4 had something like that lmao
I miss the cut scenes especially at their weddings .There was a chance of the bride or groom running away during their vows
On the topic of the sims team removing some features because it might trigger some people, they could just have some toggle options in the settings. Essentially just add the features but make it to where they can be cut off in case it bothersn someone.
I feel like they won't implement the last thing, HOWEVER what they could add is a Sim dying from a vampire bite if they go overboard and drink too much "plasma", dueling (magic) or a fight if they are super low level. Wasn't that a thing in the Sims 2 or am I making it up? I swear there was one Sims game where they could die after a fight. Then the Sim would unintentionally kill another (or maybe a little less unintentional if they are evil).
I agree with you about the lack of negative consequences though. I feel like the burglar thing is an excuse! They have fires, repo-people, social services and divorce, all of which can be just as triggering! Granted, that's a little more player directed and can be avoided during gameplay, but all they need to do is add an on / off toggle for burglary and presto!
Fair points. Personally I kind of love the Phineas and Ferb, Doctor Doofenshmirtz level of evil in this game. I have plenty of gritty dark games in my steam library to play if I want to get dark, but that's just me. I respect where you're coming from. I definitely agree that the Extreme Violins mod (mispelling on purpose because I don't know what will ding what social platform moderations these days) is probably the best for the ceasing of being among the living you mentioned.
Lets just get a pack with things like this. That way people that don't want it in their game can avoid it. And/or have a setting to turn such things off. Maybe those who want it sometimes won't at other times. These are the best two ideas I have for bringing more negativity into the game but keeping it "safe" for those who don't want it.
Now that I think about it I haven't had a vampire break into my sims house. Does it really happen much?
Also anything that can be triggering to people could be simply turned off in game options, like in Pack Settings..
Two negative interactions gameplay mods:
Brawling mod, adds things like minor physical violence, groin kick, slap, punch
lowlife loser, adds an absurd amount of interactions, tons of things to list here, you can reeaaallly insult people with this one
Sims 4 is nothing more than a pretty virtual doll house with minimal gameplay and lots of hot air that turns into pop ups.
7:23 there it is. I needed to hear that from someone else just to make sure I wasn’t the only one who thought that 😭
Evil sim npcs could be made to autonomously use voodoo dolls on ppl. Put gnomes in others yards? Lure someone to a cow plant, and have other more mean and mischief interactions. Especially ones that intersect with the occult.
Sims unaliving other sims could be done I think, maybe in a more comical and cheeky way but do able and still keeping from getting a rate change. Like two sims swimming, they playfully splash eachother or something, laugh and one grabs the other and suddenly pulls them under and only one comes back up chuckling creepily to themselves. Or looking around suspiciously as they sprinkle “special seasoning” onto someone’s food. It shouldn’t be so hard for them to be creative. A spellcaster can give a poisoned apple or potion (like TS3) that can be lethal. A vampires bite can be lethal. A werewolf can howl too loud in a sims ear and either cause them too pass out or pass on lmao
There’s so much room in the sims to be creative and they miss every opportunity. For some reason npcs and other sims rarely, truly impacts the player. And interactions seem so one sided. The game would be more fun and chaotic if they’d let them be more interactive.
the sims 3 was perfection 😩😩
and I wanna rumors, more rumors with option to enable/disable them in game options cuz I know not all people likes it. also... serial killer. we do have option to enable random 'deadly accidents' so why not making mystery about local serial killer randomly making attacks at nights? there could be pop up message who got killed once or twice per sims week and perhaps he could get caught, yknow at least for story telling, and oh cops npcs to make sims arrested by any occasion, it'd be fun.
That’s it. I’m getting ts2.
In order for this to work they would have to fix the sentiments in the game. Currently sims get sentiments like hurt for no reason and they never go away. For instance my toddler sim can’t be near her mom or she feels hurt although they have never had a negative interaction and have full relationship.
Those are the best things to be in game but at this point, I don't think sims 4 will be playable to me. They better be implementing these into ts5
With the evil one I agree 😭, I made a family, while making it I planned to make twins, one of them good, the other evil, and I wanted them to hate each-over for drama. After giving them the traits, 2 minutes into playing they were besties and couldn’t stop talking to each-over, I tried forcing the evil one to be mean to the other twin but the other twin didn’t care at all-
In the Sims 2 chance cards, for the upper career levels, if you choose the wrong option you can lose all of your money. Like up to $100,000. It's pretty easy to gain the money back at that point, but holy moly they were not messing around with those chance cards.
I feel like just adding “unalive” and having it be like the already existing death animations would be fun and still family friendly. Kids can create their “edgy murderer oc” and it would still be family friendly
An evil sim can do mean social interactions; more like what bad people do in the real world (hey, this isn't a shoot-em-up). The exact actions they take are up to you. When I end up with sims who I deem are "bad people", I have them torment sims who aren't one of them, and when they interact with each other, I restrict actions that are too kind, deep, or insecure. If you want to enhance this, I recommend the "Life Tragedies" mod. Click on another sim and choose an option from the "Bullying" subcategory.
Adding the option to unalive other sims could give me a handy way to deal with the strangers who keep entering my house to drink water!
Gives lore and depth for the Sims!
I really wish pregnancy loss was included in the game weirdly. It’s just odd that not only can pregnant sims not die, but literally nothing can go wrong until the baby is a kid. I get not showing baby and child deaths, but a tasteful pop up could make the game more dynamic.
I agree. I need the drama!!! Some fun stuff!!! It gets so boring!!!! 😅
In the sims 4 my sim had an enemy who died of anger (my sims fault xd), and when he came back as a ghost he would flirt with my sim ☠️☠️
Triggers ?! TRIGGERS ?!?! « Yes but the children » I always find that funny even as a child !! And most of people playing sims now are adults xD
One of my favorite aspects of having an enemy in older games was your Sim having the want to see their enemy as a ghost, implying they wanted that Sim to die. It wasn't even enough for that person to be dead, they wanted that mfer to have unfinished business
Negative supernatural sims. Like being able to become a zombie on accident from being cursed by tomb treasure, tomb guardians or spellcasters. Ghosts comaround every night.
More mean magic from spellcasters and maybe fearies in the future.
Actual bears that can maul you and moose that can trample you instead of the bear costume wearing nonsense we got.
Cemeteries with the tomb dwelling from sims 3.
Stuff you build as an inventor just exploding or combusting and setting your house on fire if you fail bad enough.
Fire fighting career with a potential for catasthrophic failure.
Burglar would be triggering?
What the vampires does when they break in is not far from SA.
The Sims (And I think the deep Life Sim genre generally), at it's best, is a means of storytelling via collaboration between the player and the computer at it's core.
...Which requires the computer to be willing to do mean things, because not everything should be a slice of life happy world of joy. There's nothing wrong with that, but there needs to be core systems in the game that allows for negative things to happen when not directed by the player (maybe with the ability to turn them off). And, sure, _I_ could enact those negative things... But I can also write a story myself and if the game isn't contributing to the storytelling process why am I playing it? (Plus 'my sim was robbed' - delete the item, call the money I got from selling it insurance money - isn't having the same weight on the character in gameplay than if the old burglar event happened)
Id like diseases and illnesses. You could have mad scientists creating diseases, good doctors discovering cures, random viruses swoop through and affect half the town (like flu season), people who get vaccinations and ones who refuse and dont trust doctors, AND more importantly your sims can die from untreated ailments.
Every Sim game, I make horror game based characters (like silent hill or something, Maria with her aggressive pet dog pyramid head who actively hates James Sunderland while she is inexplicably attracted to him and oddly looks like his wife Mary. That kind of stuff), and a lot of them have tragic stories where loved ones ded from diseases.
Having them get locked up and starved to death just leaves something to be desired.
in the sims 3, my brother made our young cousins as sims and at the time on of my cousins bit myy brother quite often so je gave him the evil trait, first thing he did was steal candy from a baby
I remember going broke renovating my house for my twins in the Sims 2. Then a burglar stole my fridge, tv and shower, so the parents nearly died as I scrambled to raise enough to get a fridge again, but then after I had little to no money for food...
7:24 you’re fine. I was thinking about sim racism because it would add realism and capability for storytelling, but why would we want to add a problem in the real world into the Sims? That’s not nice……… plus I like the idea of Sims not being assholes to each other because of where they came from only for who they are.
The whole university pack is triggering for me. (That’s why I only played it once)
Also, what about fire? Are there no people who lost family members or their house in a fire?
They could just make burglars a feature you can turn on or off, set to off by default. I mean, I can turn off fame.
I wish grieving was more fleshed out. I wished we got more moodlets that were more in depth and it lasted a bit longer for TWO days 😭
There is a mod called ,,Life Tragedies” and it includes almost everything u mentioned in the video :))
"What's more evil than that?"
Not my brain immediately listing off dozens of things to do to another person that's worse than death: 👀
Lmao no you’re so real for that-I quit the sims a while ago but GOD did I want murder SO BAD. No goofy deaths! I wanted drama! I wanted scheming! I wanted some cool plots to play out! I hated that the malice and intent to kill another sim was never from one of my sims-they make it so it HAS to be from you, the player, exclusively. That’s so boring!
I had the vampires expansion pack and I wanted so badly to be able to kill someone by drinking their blood, either by doing it too many times in a row or by maybe developing the ability to consume all of someone’s blood. And no, that “drain life energy” or whatever doesn’t count. I don’t care about making a sim lose their memories (although that could be cool as a separate ability, but my focus is killing, not gaslighting rn).
I really hate how kid-friendly the game is because it could be really fun with the potential for cruelty and true impact on your world-but it’s been so watered down to be palatable for “all ages” that you can’t REALLY have an impact ever. Seriously. The game is just constant status quo. “You went to fucking SPACE with a spaceship in your backyard? Cool. Here’s some random alien thingy in your inventory. Anyway, don’t forget to get some sleep for tomorrow’s babysitting gig! Oh also Eliza Pancake’s pregnant for the 7th goddamn time.”
I also think the removal of police really kills the feeling of consequence. Like if you do something bad, the worst thing that can happen is that people won’t like you. That is it. And that can eventually be fixed because moodlets make sims into bipolar cartoon characters with only short term memory. At this point they’re TRYING to be bland. Give. Us. ANYTHING. 😫
This is really needed in The Sims 4.
i have a married couple sims and made them both cheat and got a divorce. but after that, they automatically don't resent each other that much and happily talk to each other. broo all that cheating, divorce and arguments didn't do anything like i just want the conflict
I want bullying cuz it makes for good storytelling. If you wanna have someone be bullied your just gunna have to imagine it or cheat to take control of classmates to bully the sim.
More chaos would be so great. The game can be fun but it is so limited in how different the Sims actually are. Like shouldn't your noncommital hates children Sim actually almost never be happy if married with kids?
I miss the sims 2 memories
I was talking about this last night, the sims 4 is so boring because nothing bad ever happens. It’s so safe, so bland. They got rid of almost every single npc when the game released and they’ve still not really added that many back in. Nothing can happen unless you the player decide it, and I hate that. The fun is in working through all the terrible things that happen, not playing a picture perfect sitcom life every single time.
That’s why I use MC Command center and make the settings to have random cheating going on all over. It’s like my own personal desperate housewives 🤣🤣🤣
The sims 4 is fun when building and when mods are added but base game is so boring. It used to be fun for me but it got repetitive real quick :(