ATTACK OF THE PENTAXIANS
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No one can be correct all the time & mistakes happen. The nature of camera reviews is for specific brand owners to be a overly sensitive about their own gear. I get hate mail daily for simply finding performance differences, but in the end the vast majority of my subscribers are positive and supportive. Keep fighting the good fight Tony!
Great work Michael we appreciate the vast majority of reviews online including yours as well as your kindness in supporting others.
You two, Michael and Tony, make EXCELLENT reviews. They are FUNDAMENTAL to all my decision making on my purchases. In fact you two are the best along with Dave Dugdale. I just want to send you both this message of appreciation for your work. Thank you very much.
Why are you here instead of making an epic shootout?! :D
Micheal please ignore the haters, Your reviews are very thorough and therefor a great source of information.
Tony has faster uploads often a bit less thorough But therefore he can cover more.
No need to back down Tony the points for a neutral buyer were legit. That said Buying used instead of new is always difficult due to depreciation.
The current concerns are legit though. (but then like you said it's not like Pentax could have done a better job with their current lens line-up)
I agree with you. I subscribe to your channel as well as Tony and Chelsea's channel and a few more besides. I am no fan boy of any camera maufacturer, I just appreciate good cameras and lenses. Over the years I have owned 7 Canon SLR/DSLR's, 4 Olympus SLR/M43, a Pentax Spotmatic F and a Practica Nova 1B. I currently own a Nikon system and an Olympus system. All were great cameras for me at the time of ownership, but none were perfect. I consider my D500 the best camera I have ever owned but would never get worked up if a reviewer criticised it. I can never understand why certain people feel the need to be offended then become abusive just because someone writing or producing a review does not agree with them. I am grateful to all of you who provide free reviews and tutorials and treat them as a guide - not something set in stone.
If Pentax owners are pentaxians , I'm assuming the rest are nikkoragwans , canonese , sonials and of course the liecans
the samsonians...
+MusicEngine The Seventh ohh boy ... I have summoned their wrath by forgetting them 😂
No no no, Canonese is a dialectical language, similar to Manfrottodarin.
+Jason Mueller 😂😂😂😂 that cracked me up ! Well I need rectify this , what the proper nationality ? Suggestions ?
sonials?
As a Pentax K-3 user I found your review of the K1 very good and helpful. Please do other Pentax related reviews in the future. Just ignore the haters and the trolls. Greetings from Romania.
It sucks that you have to make videos like this.
agreed better uses for Tony's energy..
I think the cool thing is that he really doesnt have to make these vids but chooses to anyway..and does so in a laid back/unbutthurt way.
No because if we see it in money terms, create a monetized video that attracts thousands of people in a few hours, it's not a waste of time or a shame in no way. It's more -deserved- money for Tony. Period.
BradZChef
There are many people living thanks to youtube earnings. We don't know the rate of people hitting the ads. Reguarly its about 5-6% and depending on the kind of ad, he cant get more than $1 per click. And he regularly posts videos. Anyway, I still think that this video is worth it for Tony in many ways.
BradZChef Hi! In my other channel I usually get around 800-1000 a month. And I get a little less views than Tony so... It all depends on the kind of video you upload or what your channel is about to show more profitable ads. Cheers.
Tony no one is perfect, even you obviously. But you are such a gentleman. Hopefully these people will learn politeness. :)
Hi Tony,
You might not read this, but I'd like to thank you and to apologize as a Pentaxian.
I started in film with Pentax, then Canon and back to Pentax (K3). You are totally right in everything you said, although some of the comparisons you made are from the point of view of what you already do/know. You might already know this, but I wanted to share what I think you might miss and why some people get so idiotic about. Using Pentax is sometimes like when you start using a different system, like Windows to Mac or to Linux. You tend to do things in the same way you did or that you'd expect it to be in a specific way. In Pentax your style will be different for many things and you will overcome both the AF problems and the lack/deficiency of side/surrounding AF points (which could/should be better, no doubts). Video is a NO-NO (no way around that one)
On thing that I value and I cannot find in other systems is the primes/ltd/pancake lenses of Pentax + WR capabilities. I travel a lot and with the 18-135mm, Ltd 15mm and Ltd 70mm I have a very light weight kit that can produce almost professional results. Yes, sharpness isn't perfect, but I CAN take everything with me, worrying about rain/snow/dust and miss any action (in a competitive price range)... I do not understand the hype of sharpness and bokeh that drives this world nowadays. Hopefully Pentax will renew the film Ltd to the current standards or upgrade the DA to full frame soon... The K-1 was long overdue, I think will deliver what it promises and intends, but Pentax should have paved the road a bit better taking into consideration it's great history of lenses.
Anyway, your video has helped me to decide and my K-1 should be arriving soon.
Please, please, please... do not stop reviewing Pentax systems/lenses due to some retarded people. We really appreciate your channel and you're a real PRO!
Thanks again!
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This is the best Photography channel in my opinion i don't always agree with everything but that's personal preference which is part of the point of the videos, i feel like this is the least biased channel that has the best connection with its viewers, iv never seen a channel that replies to as many comments (iv seen 2 year old videos with replies in the last day which is crazy) and responds in this way in videos it shows a great deal of care and effort and i think that shows Tony and Chelsea truly have the buyers interest as their biggest concern, thank you for that you've helped me make choices and save money which is GREATLY appreciated :))
Don't let them get to you Tony, I'm actually enjoying your lack of bias when it comes to reviews.
You do not need to lick anyone boots: everyone has a bias, but in this case Tony did not prepare himself for the homework about Pentax.
How many homeworks you skipped in your life? It's simple as that, because Pentax DSLR was the subject he was never really interested in, but it intrigued him ONLY because everyone in the class started buzzing "FF". Only because of FF Pentax is suddenly on people's radars.
Now he has learned a thing or two, and, hopefully, will benefit from it.
Same here, and I am a Pentaxian ;)
I shot with a K-3 and have used Pentax cameras for over 25 years. I watch your channel all the time Tony, and you do a great job. Keep up the good work, but I just wish you would have more videos on Pentax gear for us pentaxians.
I am a Pentaxian to and I was looking forward to the K1. I know that Pentax has some issues with some functions but for my purposes the K3 works perfect. Thanks for your hones and objective work. I highly appreciate that.
Where is Kai? Bring back Kai!
8D
hahaha
It's just not the same without Kai
This show has gone downhill since Alamby left... /s
:P
Kai definitely should #brexit and come back to TonyTV!
Well as a proud Pentaxian! I found your K-1 review non-bias and I enjoyed your views on the system as a whole . I just hope that you continue reviewing Pentax despite this.
I thank you for your articulate and honest review/tutorial videos. I did, in fact, end up buying the Pentax because of all the excellent features you pointed out as well as design factors that would be a problem for some. I found that I am a slower shooter and the features provided for the price, was the best fit for me; again thank you, Tony.
Pentaxian here, just happy to see honest Pentax reviews, and not upset in any way. :) Thanks!
I have admired the apparent ease with which you address your errors and the ass holiness of some detractors. I think that the way we respond to others' pointing out our mistakes is one of the most important elements of character. Well done.
Good video Tony. You provide great content and it's appreciated. keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Why are you only responding to those who praise you? thats not what you claimed in the review follow-up. Personally I belive you forgot to mention the K1 as a street-shooter camera witch is what lots of Pentaxians do. Easy axess to all controls, excellent picture-quality, high iso performance and so on. Many of the worlds most famous streetshooters use big chunky dslr´s. Other than that I will also say that you normally know what you are talking about. ( but the Hasseblad review you also jumped the gun before the camera was avaliable)
+Hans Kristian Hedenby have you read the comments? He has responded to a number of critics here. You seem to be reading a different page. Also, the K1 is not a special camera for street. You may love using your K1 for street photography, and that's great. But it's not special among SLRs for street.
I did not read all of them. No time for that. The K1 is exellent for street. Most photographer (professionals) refuse to use small bodies. K1 is better than the competition because of the quick axess to controls not because of the pic. quality.
+Hans Kristian Hedenby "Why are you only responding to those who praise you?" "I have no time to read the comments". Come on, Hans.
You handled this like a pro Tony!
Hey Tony. I have been a Pentaxian since 1965. Have way too many cameras and lenses. Love your videos. Like you comment about just shoot if you like the gear you have. Photography is supposed to be fun. Hook 'um Horns.
Tony, haters will be haters. I think you and Chelsea do a fantastic job at educating and entertaining us people in this weird sub culture. Just keep doing what you are doing - you are doing it well, you are honest and I have never thought you were ever trying to deceive or misrepresent - in fact the complete and total opposite. In my life, I have learned that no good deed goes unpunished - you are doing these videos on your dime to create a business for you and your family - and you are doing them honestly and with integrity. Keep it up. Paul
Hi Tony.
As a moderator for Pentax users at Photo.net I want to say how much I have appreciated your reviews. Generally the Pentax users on our site at Photo.net are quite a bit more civil than what was expressed here. Just to comment, I think I have been more educated by your reviews than any other source on-line as they seem well evaluated in controlled and side by side analysis. As an "Advanced Amateur" I appreciate that I haven't the technical knowledge to evaluate lens at this level. As a professor (and a parent) on a budget I think pretty carefully about my purchases. I have thought about the K1 for landscapes and astronomical images. I have wide legacy glass, a 20mm f2.8 A and a Russian Fisheye (15mm) as well as two dozen other lenses (including limiteds) up to a 600mm f5.6 A. The lenses have been magnificent on APSC bodies (K3 and K5IIs), but I have been hesitant to go for the K1. If I cannot be convinced that the 20mm f2.8 or other wide angle lenses I already have are not going to deliver truely wonderful landscapes edge to edge it isn't likely that I'll get the K1 as the idea of purchasing another lenses (like the rebagged Tamron) that will ultimately support the best features of the K1 is not in my budget. I still have a daughter to support for college.
Again, many many thanks for the time you put into your videos. As a scientist myself its hard to overstate the need to be able to have viable controlled tests to be able to bring meaningful data to these evaluations. It's a pity that you have run into such a negative response and further even more unfortunate that it becomes imperative to have to address such comments and invest more time into those comments. Still your efforts are well appreciated by at least one life-long Pentaxian, or Pentaxer, or Pentax user, whatever.
Cheers and Thanks,
Doug
I'm a Pentax shooter and own the K-1, mainly for the reasons you mentioned in this video, Tony. I have many lenses capable of covering a 36 x 24mm sensor (around 40 actually. Primes ranging from 15 - 500 mm of various quality and usefulness) and some of these are very special assemblies of glass. These are not designed to win pixel peeping contests, but designed to render in a unique and pleasing fashion. As you said, there is more to photography than lines on a sharpness graph. I disagree with your reasoning about the lack of lenses and the usefulness of the existing arsenal, and I said so in the comments to your original post, but I hope I did so with respect and grace. I think you made light of some of the unique features of the K-1 while over emphasising some of the weaknesses, but I understand that Pentax does things differently than the mainstream, and these features may not be of obvious weight to even seasoned and reasoned reviewers who have not had to the opportunity to immerse themselves in the Pentax 'way'.
Some of the utterly disgraceful comments which followed your review are more than unfortunate. Deplorable, rude and a reflection on the nexus between decreasing education standards and the easy access to faceless opinion on the internet. (that's my real name in the box above, BTW) I do not think it is unique to Pentax shooters, to throw out horrid comments, and so disagree with those who characterise this activity as an attack by Pentax trolls, but it is deplorable nonetheless. Having said that, I don't think your 'Attack of the Pentaxians' intro is exactly designed to sooth the waters, as amusing as a reference to 50's B movies may be. But hey it's your site, do as you wish :)
No argument from me that Nikon and to a lesser extent Canon has a better offering in the AF (especially tracking) stakes, but I think the K-1 is more than adequate compared to almost every other camera on the market, and especially at the price point. Is it a 1dx or 5d? Nope. How many Canikon cameras can focus down to -3 ev? and how much do they cost? Would I think of the K-1 as my go to 'spray and pray' camera? Nope. I have a K-3 @ 8.3 fps for that. I get that the Nikon D810 (at 50% more) and the twice as expensive Canon (6D? I get lost with Canon's innumerable offerings) has better tracking. Fair enough, one has to get something for the price premium. One could also argue that these heavily more expensive cameras fail compared to the K-1 in terms of some features (which you did Tony, but failed to mention some, and spent less time on the pluses than the minuses in this area. IMH*O) No bias is inferred here, but I wonder about familiarity.
*humble or hubric is interchangeable here. :)
I readily admit I have nowhere near the experience with alternative systems and also admit that you, Tony, know a lot more than me about Canon and Nikon et al, and photography overall, but I submit that there are others who, through use and experience know more about the Pentax system than you have shown. I simply disagree with the logic behind the dismissing of the Pentax array of newly released DFA lenses because you found the DFA 70-200 softer at the edges at F/2.8 than the Nikon alternative. I find it odd that it was not mentioned that it is also found on other sites who measure lens sharpness that the Pentax variant is sharper in the center (where it counts wide open) than the Nikon. Does this mean that you will in future discount the Nikon lens array because this one lens is not as sharp in the center as the Penton (*TM) alternatives?
I get the point Tony, that you are relied upon by people who look to your vids to influence their buying decisions. I just disagree (respectfully) with the premise of your argument WRT lens selection and the price/value curve.
I now have a serious question which both illustrates my ignorance of the Canon lens range, and will hopefully help fill it. How many of the dozen or so wide angle lenses you lists as being an option for Canon shooters are better optically and technically and artistically than the array of various wide angle lenses made for Pentax k mount, and are still usable. Of course it must be understood that Canon abandoned their previous mount, whereas Pentax has kept the K mount for 40 odd years. How many of the bakers dozen of these listed lenses are cheapish optics and overlapping , confusing choices?
(Please, like Tony requested, I'm after polite factual discussion here. Trolls and fanbois please avoid.)
Finally, I find it odd,Tony that you have never had the chance to try any of the 'three amigo's on either apsc or 24 x 36 format. I would have thought these legendary collections of glass would stir the interest of one interested so much in photographic excellence. No less than Leica had enough respect for the FA43 to have it made in a Lieca mount.
Politely and respectfully Tony, I disagree with some assertions. I enjoy your style and your commitment to education. I hope you find the time to answer.
Wayne
I agree Chelsea is awesome funny fine and she compliments the show keep up the great work guys its appreciated.
I totally agree with your critique...I wrote the following on DP Reviews.
Agreed. As a past pro Pentax user of the K10 up to the K3 the two glaring flaws in my opinion and based only on my professional needs has always been the AF and the limited amount of fast AF prime lenses. The very small concentration of AF points in the centre of the viewfinder doesn't help matters either when wanting to focus on the models eye which must either be forced into the centre of the frame, reducing usable pixels in the final published works or reframing which is slow cumbersome and not accurate especially when using a fast lens. What I suggest Pentax does is what Nikon has done with their D800/810 and allow for a 5:4 crop option which replicates 90% of most magazine formats and bringing the upper focus points closer to the eyes of the model although not perfect, still close enough. However, having a few more focus points in the upper quadrant would be ideal. If Nikon in their 5:4 crop mode, could just give us one more row of vertical focus points, it would be perfect beyond words. But as is, I can generally get close enough to the crucial focus point desired.
Benjamin Kanarek Have you not tried selecting one of the outer focus points and locking in that one? I do this for most portrait sessions, going all the way back to my MZ-S, then to the K-5, and now the K-3. When the camera is held in portrait position, it’s easy to line up the selected outer focus point with the model’s eye. It hasn’t even been necessary to use the outermost focus point.
Sorely needed: an SDP-like book on critical thinking. Let's get a little logic and observation back into our opinions! Call it.... oh... Stunningly Empirical Thinking. You could write this book. We need dis!
I'm a 100% Pentax user. K-S2 to be exact. I found the review very helpful!!
You are so patient Tony, like an old style university professor taking his dunderheads through their term papers.... :)
An excellent repost.
Some people just weren't raised right, Tony, and have no idea how to interact with people on a respectful and educational level. Perhaps they are part of the new generation that walks around with ear buds on 90% of the time, blocking interaction with people and therefore lacking the skill to communicate effectively. Either way, you can only do what you can do, so keep it up.
Tony, I am impressed with your technicality and precision that you bring content to us. Sometimes people are jaded.... Thanks for your richness
relax Tony, you're doing a great job...
He seemed pretty relaxed.
Yeah, if anything he seems a little entertained and just slightly annoyed. he seems annoyed that these loud minority commenters drive good people to quit.
Do people really think Tony is stressed or something? hahaha xD
I didn't agree with all of your K-1 review but I appreciate your videos on camera reviews, photoshop/lightroom tutorials, etc. THANK YOU!
Tony, dude!Having shot with Pentax for nearly 15 years; I just want to say that your original Pentax K1 review totally rocks!Thanks for providing great content. Your videos are always the product of well researched, unbiased facts delivered in an honest/factual way. I totally agree with your comments about the K1, including its shortcomings. You are so right: the perfect camera just doesn't exist. I really value that you take the time to factually and honestly highlight all the strengths and weaknesses of each individual camera that you review. The viewer can then decide whether a particular camera would suite his or her particular needs based on your very thorough advice. You give great value for money advice regarding choosing the right gear for those of us who do not necessarily have loads of cash to spend on that ever-ellusive-perfect-camera we all crave to own. Whether it be Canon, Nikon, Sony or Pentax etc. Your K1 review helped me reafirm my decision to save up for the Pentax as it suits, not only my style of photography, but my pocket too. Thanks for mentioning what bang for my buck the K1 would mean. You and Chelsea do a great job on your channel. I hope that the few rude remarks you suffered will not hinder your reviewing more Pentax gear in the future. Your KS2 review for example was just as enjoyable to watch and very informative. Pentaxians are, for the most part, sensible and friendly folk who are like kids in a candy store now finally able to rave about the new full frame that Pentax has to offer. And like most exited kids, some of us can sometimes get carried away by what we say online. Thanks again for producing such a great channel for all of us to enjoy!
Great video! This channel is solid!
Thanks!
I add, Great person presenting!
Thank you Tony. I do appreciate your honest reviews. Let me, without any kind of aggression, suggest some further corrections/suggestions (yes, with Nikon and Canon you do have a much larger selection of lenses). Sigma is, as far as I am aware, still manufacturing modern lenses with Pentax K-mount, such as the 35 mm f1.4 Art lens (perhaps this is an exception, I am honestly speaking not sure). In addition, you will find the following full frame (modern - digital era) lenses for Pentax at and below 24 mm:
* Irix 15 mm f 2.4 Blackstone (weather sealed)
* Irix 15 mm f 2.4 firefly (also weather sealed)
* Pentax f 15-30 mm f 2.8 (weather sealed)
* Samyang (Rokinon) 14 mm f2.8
* Laowa 15 mm f 4 macro
* Samyang (Rokinon) f 3.5 24 mm TS tilt-shift
* Sigma 20 mm f2.8 EX (yes, slightly outdated, but by no means a bad lens)
* Samyang (Rokinon) 12 mm f 2.8 fisheye
* Samyang (Rokinon) 24 mm f 1.4
I expect that all except the Pentax lens are also available for Nikon and Canon. I still think there is a larger selection for Pentax than most reviewers will care (or know about ?) to mention. I don't even have a Pentax FF camera. But I wish I had.
Wow, either humble or patient. This response is sickeningly comprehensive and civil. Did you just try to handle TH-cam comments professionally? Seriously Tony?
Thanks for taking these things in stride Tony; I have a feeling the online community would really hate to lose you and Chelsea to trolls!
I'm a Pentaxian and have been for years, (yes I admit it's a disease I can't shake). I thought your first video was a fair and honest assessment with some good points and well done. Yes there were some minor errors but we are all human and anyone who states they know everything about every camera system is not being honest. Being a Pentax user since the mid 80's the K1 is the obvious choice for me but for those looking to just get into the DSLR market then it's a great video showing strengths and weaknesses of all models. My love for Pentax is their primes and since I'm and avid outdoors person I love the ruggedness and weather sealing that Nikon and Canon can't match, especially for the price.
I also think your follow up video is great and spot on. Sometimes people just need to get over it and stop showing anger behind a keyboard. You and Chelsea keep up the great work and video's and don't give up on us because not all Pentaxian's are vicious. :-)
I am a Pentax user and I think that your videos are great. Keep them coming. I have learned a great deal from your videos.
Hi Tony, as a person using Pentax products since the SF1 film camera ( now with the K-3) and having stayed with the brand (because of legacy glass) I appreciate your review of the camera and supported lenses. Awesome attention to detail and great follow up.
Now I understood why TCS began their Pentax review video with a warning message.
That warning just got the Pentax shooters up in arms that we were 'condescending'. You can't win!
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV lol knew it
+TheCameraStoreTV That's because it was, and I'm not a Pentaxian. You can win by being respectful instead of painting a caricature as a stereotype of everyone using a brand. Yes, there will still be detractors, so in that sense you can't win, but if you do your part right you would at least win in the eyes of those on the sidelines.
Not me - I thought it was hilarious and I've been a Pentax shooter for a decade. :)
+TheCameraStoreTV keep it up, TCS is an extremely good and objective reviewers.
unless you say the d500 is better at high iso because it can go to 1 billion like FRO doesn't know. in fact, I'm going to watch it now and make sure!
I for one deeply appreciate the lengths you go to produce reviews that are fair and extremely informational for the benefit of those who are seeking knowledge about photography and video equipment. I applaud your review, and the efforts you made to set right any mistakes you may have made, and to clarify to people who didn't understand what you really meant. Keep up the good work!
Being a journalist myself, this is the reason that I like and come back to your videos. You guys are objective, have a critical consumer - non fan-boy/girl - approach to what your doing. Love that you are doing this video, explaining objectivity to (some) people who obviously don't deserve it. Big thanks for your great work!
A few years ago I took a job supervising a "team" of people who communicated with each other primarily via text, both via IM and in chat rooms. I'm using the term "team" loosely and incorrectly, because I've never seen a group of people who supposedly worked together be so rude to each other. It seems to me that the partial anonymity of texting tends to make people who are probably reasonably normal adults in normal life act like adolescents.
I'm pretty sure sigma still sells lens with k mounts. The art series is available on their website with k mount. Correct me if I'm mistaken :)
I will admit that I wasn't ecstatic about the K-1 review regarding the lens selection; however, this video cleared up all of my complaints. Thank you for addressing the problems some pentax users had with the review, and I am sorry to hear that people felt the need to attack you/your video! You and your crew make wonderful content (especially considering its free). I can't wait to see what you create next!
I like that you seem to place value and importance on language and what we say and how we say it.
Youre not too bad.
We need more people who value language.
I use Pentax k-3 and love my camera, so you may call me a Pentaxian. And I am not here to attack. I like your final logic of being unbiased, and the motive behind your reviews of them being a resource for potential buyers to make purchase decision. Keep them coming. Cheers.
Tony, you are a professional and a gentleman. Thank you for the work you do.
You guys do a fantastic job and has helped me in narrowing my search for a camera wish i would have found you guys a few years back cause i made a bad choice in a camera...... Thanks guys......
Tony for your information the pentax DA 200 f2.8, DA 300 f4 and da 560 f5.6 are all officially full frame compatible i hope this helps. Please do be put of to not review pentax gear because of some commenters.
Tony, all of the Pentax primes 31mm, 43mm ,77mm, 100mm you are mentioning are actually sharper from f2.8 than the Pentax Zooms ! So they make sense. The chart its just not that detailed to show the peak sharpness for each lens...
Right, but they're not necessarily sharp compared to modern primes, which are generally sharp wide open.
Wow, it must be exhausting to have to deal with that on a regular basis, I feel for you. Keep up the outstanding work, it's much appreciated!
Always one of my favourite TH-cam creators in the photographic field! Great vid.
I'm a Pentaxian and am quite loyal to the Pentax brand but please don't think we are all crazy! Ha ha, I will be the first to admit Pentax is far behind in many areas but I also like their out of the box thinking from time to time. I hope you cover more Pentax products in the future because the more coverage the more their brand can grow and competition is only good for innovation. Lets not let Nikon, Canon, Pentax, or any other camera makers become too comfortable and lazy. I want cool new features every time I spend thousands of dollars on new camera equipment upgrades. Thank you for your hard work on all of your videos, testing and reviews. I certainly don't have the patience to do what you do and then to come online and deal with morons. Thanks again!
Sorry you had to deal with all that. I own a Pentax and love it. I have always loved your videos and I was waiting anxiously for your k-1 review. I think you did an excellent job. I'm just happy you take the time to provide a ton of free content even for the small brands like Pentax. Your conclusions are unbiased and your videos are lighthearted and enjoyable. Thanks for all your hard work and I look forward to seeing more videos!
Hi Tony, i have a K1 with Sigma and Pentax lenses. I thought your first review was poignant and fair. I enjoy your lack of any bias as far as i can see. I also have a K3 which, if i was to shoot sports or live animals i would probably prefer to use, however for landscapes the K1 IS perfect. I wish i had it in Iceland 16 months ago!!!
Hang in there T&C. There are just a small handful of photography youtubers that I watch religiously. Folk that are very skilled at their craft, extremely informative, and master educators in an entertaining way. You two are in that group.Keep up the good work and ignore the h8trs.
Great commentary! I really appreciate the efforts you and other reviewers go through in sharing your knowledge. I hope it inspires some TH-cam watchers to check their egos, regardless of their chosen brand(s). As a Pentaxian/Olympian, I know the vast majority of us are more sensible than these comments imply.
There's a disconnect here; you claim that sharpness isn't the only criteria for judging lenses yet in this video it is the only criteria that you discuss. Please explain. Signed, a Pentaxican and a Lumixican and a Nikonian and an Olympian.
hey Tony! loved this one. You are so considerate as always. Don't sweat it too much about the sensitive one, there is a vast majority (often silent) that loves your videos and your methods. I was wondering if you could make a video about how to check the true focal lengh of a lens as you did with the Canon 70-200. It got me intersted. Cheers!
Just saying, I own a pentax 55mm f1.8 lens(~50 years old), and it is great. It renders colour beautifully . Not gonna lie, even though it is a smc (super multi-coated) lens, the flare is still kinda bad (but beautiful in a way) and the sharpness wide open at 100 percent is not excellent (even on a 16mp camera), but I think for any exisiting pentax users with pentax's old film lens, the k1 would be great, but I agree with you, if a person is looking to just start investing in a full frame system, the pentax k1, though outstanding, is not their best choice just because of the film lens. Just adding to your point. Good vid.
~ An awful lot of toys emanating from a lot of prams ... blessed be you both, Tony & Chelsea, for the effort you both ( not forgetting Justin & Siobhan ) put into ALL the content from your (Free) channel.
That guy talked shit about Tony because of small mistake (who don't mistake?)yet Tony replied politely and addressed the issue , True gentleman :)
Great responses to the comments on your very thorough, thoughtful review. "Strawman" and hyperbolic comments, nastiness, etc are results of the perceived anonymity of the Internet. It's a shame really that users of a particular brand get so defensive over critiques of their preferred hardware. I've been a Pentax user for quite a while. They've been great for me. And I am well aware of their shortcomings. I am also an amateur. And I'm "budget minded". Hence I've made a conscious decision to choose a brand that fits the budget and accept that there are some limitation. I'm also an artist. So sometimes the limitations are assets.
Good work Mr Northrup.
You're one of the best. I always learn something from your videos. You are a real educator.
The way your channel handles mistakes and corrections simply mean I can rely on your reviews to get the straight facts, albeit to the best of your abilities. Thanks Tony.
Tony, your reviews are the ones I take more seriously. It's good that you now review Pentax cameras and lenses. Your insightful observations and well informed criticisms help us in the buying process. My personal interest is in photographing landscape and architecture, and when permitted, portraits of my family and friends, so your review gives me the reassurance I needed to consider buying the K-1 and two Tamron derived lenses. I'll make do with (and modify) my DA* 60-250 unless something better comes up. I can also use some DA and D FA primes in FF (plus the rest in crop mode) so am quite happy with that for the time being.
I am sorry that some Pentaxians have posted unkind comments, although I also understand that those who have invested in older Pentax lenses might feel upset that their collection is not technically state of the art. As you pointed out, off-center sharpness wide open is only one consideration in buying a lens, and sometimes other factors matter more, so they can take consolation from that.
It's good that you take time to respond to comments and have put this video together to explain some contentious issues. I hope that you are not put off by trolls, they are everywhere. I am a Pentaxian, and place high value on your reviews and guidance.
Keep up the good work.
I have no idea why I am watching this because I don't shoot Pentax, but I like hearing Tony talk about Pentaxians.
I appreciate all you two have taught me!
i love how nearly every youtube video, regardless of genre or topic of discussion, has youtube viewers leaving comments that are way off topic. not too long ago, i was in the blackhole of youtube, watching videos on carrots (yes, carrots) yet the comments were talking about brittney spears, hulk hogan, and electric guitars....
tony, i was one of the people who replied to your previous video, and you replied back within minutes. as i said, i own the k1 and i'm loving it. i just wanted the point out that pentax does have more than one lens, but canikon does have a larger variety of lens available. i think you're doing a great job. its a shame you have to address to people bickering and crying over things.
as a k1 owner, i do agree that the k1 is not the greatest camera out there. it almost does any/everything i want it to do, thus it works for me. at the end of the day, thats all i should care about. i got my camera to enjoy taking pics with...not so i can yell at others on youtube or internet with...
Tony and Chelsea: just wanted to say I really appreciate the content you put on TH-cam. Though I'm sure you don't hear it nearly enough, you are very appreciated! Thanks for all the great hard work you do, and helping photographers continue to grow and learn!
Tony, I seldom leave a comment on anything but this video really made me smile and laugh! I totally applaud you for going to the effort of addressing some/many touchy Pentaxians. And, no, I am not a CaNikon user. In fact, I have bought and shot mostly Pentax gear for some 25 years (but defected to mirrorless instead of the K-1). Keep up the great work!
WE LOVE YOU TONY YOUR THE BEST PHOTOGRAPHY TEACHER ON THE INTERNET ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
By the way, sometimes people who "watched" your video did not actually watch it. They play the video, but they are having other windows popping in front of the TH-cam video. So if you want to correct a statement, try correcting it in the audio would be very very helpful.
Tony, I follow you and The Camera Store as my "go to" solutions for camera gear and your overall thoughts. While I've disagreed with you in the past (we all have our opinions, as followers). I would like to openly applaud you for fixing your mistakes, and passionately leading your subscribers to (hopefully) make smarter more intelligent purchasing decisions. I am sorry you've had to make a video like this, but I am glad you did. It proves how sincere you are about what you do. All the best.
it's "Ni-kon" as in Monty Python's Knights Who Say Ni!
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We say Nic-on. And Niss-en. Also lea-ka.
Then Dat-sun.
Well done sir! A beautiful summary of what you and Chelsea are all about. Keep up the great work.
Trolls gonna troll. I appreciate your content and all hard work that goes into it. Sure, you're will make mistakes, but you're human. The value your channel adds to the photography community is awesome. Keep up the great work!
In a short college course recently of 12 people we had 5 Canon owners, 5 Nikon owners, 1 Sony Owner and 1 Pentax owner. Lens finesse was the last thing on our agenda and everyone got pretty similar results.
Yep! I said multiple times in the review that if Pentax has the lenses you need, the system would work just fine. That's definitely true.
I think the photography community itself has a decent amount of very snarky people. Every photography channel I've seen on youtube has rude comments in a similar fashion, and a lot of unwarranted downvotes. I think the worst is the DPreview comments section in articles. This is just what I've observed as someone fairly new to photography. I just spectate and give no input myself lol.
Great videos. You are not ignorant, BY FAR!! but VERY knowledgeable. Thanks.
Don't worry Tony. I know this is an older video but I still wanted to show support to your channel. Haters gonna hate. I say keep it moving.
I shoot both Pentax and Canon. The last camera I bought was done with a lot of research and watching a lot of your reviews. I want to thank you for putting up the free content it really helped me make a smart purchase. As for the K-1 review I felt it was unbiased and I was ecstatic when you mentioned it wS the best landscape camera you have used. To me that is overwhelming positive comment coming from you - watching a ton of your reviews I knew you meant it. I shoot landscapes, hopefully I will own this camera in the future. Thanks again for your content.
Coming from a video production background, the sheer volume of material Tony, Chelsea and team put out, borders on mind-boggling. I don't have enough thumbs to hold up. Your channel's collective number of views says it all...
If I was you I wouldn't even bother to respond! Haters are gonna hate anyway. 100% supporting your videos and channel and keep up with your good work! Cheers!
The Bring back Kai thing totally made my day
Thank you Tony and Chelsea for creating free educational vids here on youtube. Some people may not appreciate ot but for the most of us we are really thankful. You save us from spending hundreds of bucks so yeah, much appreciate it.
Pentaxians: The hyper-aggressive Chihuahuas of the photography world.
Thank you for your time and creating 'free' tutorials for pentaxians!!! I greatly appreciate you and your work!!
Damn tony back at it again with the unbiased information and the polite comebacks to the haters 😂👍🏼😂
Hey Tony. Not sure you needed to justify your comments, some viewers just like the attention. I left school 30 years ago with a passion for photography but had to abandon the love as my parents decided to move, and I had to give up my photographers assistant job. Fast forward 30 years, and I am re-kindling my passion, and find your videos, and Chelseas, extremely valuable. I have entered the game with a humble EOS200D/SL2 and loving it!
Keep up the good work, and don’t let the trolls get you down
Hi Tony, thank you for all the great content you, Chelsea and your team create.
As a Pentax user myself i feel quite sad about all those bad comments.
The Pentaxian is not used seeing their brand getting any spotlight and i think a few cannot handle it.
I myself love the system. Not for its modern lens selection, its action capabilities or video, but for the comfort i find in its ergonomics, everything fits my slow working approach. The system is not fast, but it is reliable in nearly every situation.
You did great. Pentax is (for the moment) a niche system and you reviewed it fairly. Comming from your way of shooting (you said it yourself in the portrait section - fast, lots of pics,...), Pentax is not the best system.
I hope you don´t abandon reviewing Pentax products only because some idiots are stupid. I like to get some thoughts from a system outsider.
I appreciate your welcome call for TH-cam civility. Very nice review of your review and its audience/commenters. Thought you should get a little pat-on-the-back.
I've been using Pentax since the K-7 and I'm so tired on reading angry comments from other pentaxians if someone criticize Pentax i any way. It's a fact that you don't have the same amount of lenses if you use Pentax and if Tony forget some lenses from Samyang /Rokinon or something else don't matter at all. The fact still remains that you will have lesser lens options if you choose Pentax but that's ok with me. I have all the lenses I need and I love Pentax. Keep up the good work Tony & Chelsea Northrup.
Still the most awesome channel on TH-cam. Deserves respect.
please accept apologies from a Pentaxian, some of us are jerks (yeah it happens, sry). u're the reason why I choose pentax over all the other cameras. Please continue your great vids.
Tony you should make the ATTACK OF THE PENTAXIANS PART II VIDEO ! ;-)
Hi Tony and Chelsea, I just wanted to say that I think your videos are wonderful! You strike a great balance between entertaining and informing your viewers, and I feel like you really do care about the consumer. I'd highly recommend someone check out your channel for gear reviews because you don't inflate or oversell the products you examine, you do provide pros and cons, and you give people the information they'd need to buy the camera that fits them - and their shooting style - best. I'm currently shooting with a Pentax K-50 and I'm thinking about getting the new K-70 when it comes out. I know neither of those cameras would be great for shooting something like sports, but thanks to your reviews I could find a camera that would be. I appreciate your honest appraisal of the K-1's strengths and weaknesses and I look forward to more videos from you guys in the future. Also, thanks for the free buying guide, that was really nice of you guys to give away!
Your service to the armature photographic community is invaluable. I stopped my subscription to a noted online PHOTO Academy when I found you and the SDP series of books. On behalf of all the "Grateful Ones" Thank You!
I appreciate that you quote used-prices throughout, not like some more marketing-focused channels that always seem to say "surely you can afford list price, right? Wink wink nudge nudge"
Time to market matters, and the K1 is brand new, while other offerings can be found used. If you want to be super thorough, you could make a short follow-up video once Pentax FF starts showing up in the used/grey import market. Thank you for making this video and your calm and humorous response! Nice joke to end on!
Hahaha, people call you ignorant, you're great Tony, as well as your entire team!
Keep up the good work. When reading some of the comments on the other video I wondered if they hade watched the same video as I =)
Dear and admired Tony, sometimes I think that impolite people don´t deserve your kindness, they just wouldn´t understand. There´s so much in your videos to thank you for that I wouldn´t know where to start. If we had to get objetives articles about lenses an cameras testing we would have to pay lots of money and that´s no secret. People know it, so let´s be less "impolite" and more grateful. I realy love your videos, I watch´em over and over because there´s tons of objectiv and technical info.
So again, dear and admired Tony...thank you for your hard work and your free and high quality videos.