I have never "butt dialed" a single number since I got a smart phone. My phone is playing music or TH-cam all day while I walk dogs, run errands for clients, do seasonal work outside or am at the gym all the while my phone is in my pocket. These people are disgusting and ridiculous. John O'Keefe deserves justice. The only way that can happen is to bring this bunch of liars in for their own trial after Karen Read is found not Guilty.
Butt dialing John, by Jenn M. Means she had him last recent call. She may have called to look for him when they all saw his truck. The kids saw it, some people in the house saw it. Messed up about the lying, when looking for the his phone, or him?? I thought it was more, dial - listen, hang up.
If you use any kind of auto lock on your phone (fingerprint, passcode or facial recognition), there is no way to "butt dial" your phone that many times to either one number or multiple numbers.
Butt dials were unanswered calls that either hung up after a few seconds or went to the answering machine ,. Sheesh the speculation and conspiracy theorists stink to high heaven 😳 you go turtleboy hahahaha ,,NOT
Bro was just up hanging with his wife at 2:30 AM. Everyone's just 50 years old and up and about at 2 am, butt dialing each other, but, every 30 year old I know is crashing out at 1 am ....
Yup. Butt dials and a courtesy return butt dial. Imagine being a 50 something grown ass man and going to bars constantly and trying to show off to everyone how cool and strong you are by play fighting with your buddy. Ick. Overgrown middle schoolers the lot of em.
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅
@@davidking6986 Establishing motive isn't required for a conviction, e.g. we may never know the motive. As you said, it's a small town, the motive could be literally anything. From Brian Higgins wanting to fuck Karen, to John calling Jen fat when they were in high school. The prosecution giving me a motive only really tells me they understand story structure. It's not like they're actively investigating possible motives for anyone else. They've only had 1 suspect, 1 trial and therefore only 1 motive to offer the jury.
Wrong, they preserved the crime scene the best they could in a major blizzard, and the snow plow pilesd the snow along the bank with the shoe glass and tail light pieces mixed. If you think the entire police force planted all the forensic evidence and all risked their careers and jobs for life, then your way more gullible than I thought. Facts are facts, and you can not discount the physical forensic evidence as well as the multiple direct eye witnesses corroborating the dozens of pieces of evidence. WELL, I guess you could if your belief in a Frame up only allows the conspiracy theory, Please open your minds and come out from that turtle boy cult. Facts a fact Jen and Kerry both were with Karen when she frantically was screaming all kinds of stuff at them. They both testified karen took them directly to John's body in the Snow, They bothAre police to be honored .? Are they to be respected. I think if you needed one you would be polite to them as they came to help you with your concern. MAYBE you got raped or robbed or you were being stalked or your car was stolen or your child raped,.? I think you at that time would honor and respect the seargent or captain,.? Or perhaps you would tell the officer to go fuck himself. If so why rely on police at all just try and figure it out yourself,.? Why call police at all after all you hate all police as if they were all little hitlers running around laughing beating and raping you old young women children and cutting off babies heads.Your right don't call police and try and investigate it yourself. You want to keep to yourself and enjoy your Starbucks caramel latte with extra caramel and whip cream right,? I think you get the picture. I am police and they are great, No not perfect but great non the less,? All I'm asking you is to not fear the unknown. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU DONT KNOW,. KARENis guilty as fuck and needs psychological help. SHE LIED TO POLICE AND STARTED A CAMPAIGHN AGAINST HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND THEY ARE THE VICTIMS HERE,.Try and stay open minded and value the God given grace He has given you, BE a little grateful for what nice things you have,MY goodness relax and smell the roses,. Food for thought . Just saying,
Seabass,Are police to be honored .? Are they to be respected. I think if you needed one you would be polite to them as they came to help you with your concern. MAYBE you got raped or robbed or you were being stalked or your car was stolen or your child raped,.? I think you at that time would honor and respect the seargent or captain,.? Or perhaps you would tell the officer to go fuck himself. If so why rely on police at all just try and figure it out yourself,.? Why call police at all after all you hate all police as if they were all little hitlers running around laughing beating and raping you old young women children and cutting off babies heads.Your right don't call police and try and investigate it yourself. You want to keep to yourself and enjoy your Starbucks caramel latte with extra caramel and whip cream right,? I think you get the picture. I am police and they are great, No not perfect but great non the less,? All I'm asking you is to not fear the unknown. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU DONT KNOW,. KARENis guilty as fuck and needs psychological help. SHE LIED TO POLICE AND STARTED A CAMPAIGHN AGAINST HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND THEY ARE THE VICTIMS HERE,.Try and stay open minded and value the God given grace He has given you, BE a little grateful for what nice things you have,MY goodness relax and smell the roses,. Food for thought . Just saying,
All that bar footage should've shown her slamming back drinks. It would've been obvious she was drunk. It's so cruel that they put the kids on the stand. Unnecessary and more traumatizing. The wrong person is on trial.
Occam's Razor, the story with the least amount of assumptions is the correct answer. She hit him with the car. If they beat him up and he died why would a cop drag him in front of his own home to be found? Read said, "I did it, I did it, I did it." That's a confession.
Because if the Alberts had called 911 about an injured John in their basement, it would have opened even more of a Pandora's Box. Like how did he get injured in the house and who caused his injuries. If he was found outside, anybody could have done it.
Snow plow could've caused injuries on his arm. If anyone remembers, the driver told two different stories after his supervisor told him to say he didn't drive down that road. Obviously, he did drive down that road. I don't know why the defense didn't slam the supervisor for telling his employee to change his story. That blows my mind. Maybe the defense is too focused on the cover-up nonsense.
I think I will wait for the ME to testify to his injures as well as the reconstruction engineer as to how he may have been struck. Everyone thinks they are an expert on the internet.
The Alberts leave the front door unlocked all night. The German Shepherd locked up inside the closet. Nobody hears anything in front of their own house so nobody even looks outside. The basement floor is ripped and the house is sold. Cellphones destroyed. The dog is shipped out on a permanent vacation. There's a big problem of alcohol consumption in the Boston PD. I don't know, I don't recall, I don't remember, objection-sustained and butt-dialing become common phrases in Auntie Bev's courtroom.
What a lousy one sided review of testimony. The defense tore those witnesses apart. And bringing those poor kids in to testify?! SHAME on Lally. They’ve been through enough
Imagine if she got convicted. They'll carry that with them forever. They loved her and may feel partly responsible for ruining her life. I really hope they don't feel bad about anything.
Can you guys put a compilation of clips: diff witnesses answering the same questions? Specifically who drove who to both bars? Higgins Jeep may not have been there at all.
Your correct. It's all the other stuff that points to the poorly executed cover up. Like the Google searches, the butt dials and return butt dials, no one seeing a dead body on the lawn while coming in and out and driving to and from the house, but also being keenly aware of exact locations of cars. The cellebrite data and all the deleted calls and texts, and the conveniently destroyed phones the day before a order to preserve. That stuff. No one thinks it's a conspiracy because cops were there.
@@MirandaFrates I grew up in Missouri and Mississippi, but must admit I haven't been Home in ages. Greetings from Europe! Never heard the Expression from Britisch Friends either.
😂That's on the dump Canton voters, who voted for a dumbfounded MAGA, Orange Jesus Fals Prophet Psycho Trump supporter....... You can't vote for someone, because they are the loudest and craziest of the politicians...
Your phone does not unlock by "accident." If you have a lock on it, and you would think all of these people would with paying things by cellphone nowdays, you can only call emergency services. My daughter did this at 17 at a friend's house. The police called her back and then visited to check in. She was mortified!
If someone said to me "Maybe I hit him, did I hit him?" I would have asked them "Why do you say that? What happened that you think this? Did no one ask questions??
Apparently no one put karen on the hot seat when she confessed at the time because of probable cause not present but there was. Karen stopping talking and acted innocent, She would have confessed all the way if confronted and interviewed by the police when she was confessing, Instead they deemed her insane and took her to hospital where she had time to concoct her lies,,
Phone pings don’t lie, unless they don’t fit your cult narrative. Those are apple health data. What about phone gps location data that shows he never entered the house?
Okay, this is not correct. That was his health data from his phone, which is notoriously inaccurate and he was three minutes away Wazing 34 Fairview according to his data and Waze app.
She wasn't feeling well. She has Crohn's. There's no way she would be able to drink that much. She nursed a soda all night. Even brought it to the 2nd bar.
The scratches on John’s arm came from a belt made from pigskin leather! That’s why it came back as pigs DNA when they swabbed the scratches on his arm. He was beaten with his own belt and they didn’t put it back with the other evidence on the lawn at the crime scene because it has John’s blood on it! The scratches on his arm are consistent with the fact that someone took his belt, folded it in half like a whip and beat him with it. The scratches on his arm are defensive wounds from putting his arm up to protect his face. Notice how the scratches are in groups of 2. This is consistent with being whipped by the belt loop causing the scratches to come in groups of 2!!
I hope this is not how trials are performed in canton! Speedy trial this is NOT!!! Do the jurors not have jobs? Court one day a wk, half days, off days is absolutely ridiculous!
Unfortunately, the court does not care if you have a job. It’s your civic duty to serve, and your employer can’t do anything about it ! Yes, it’s stinks that they are losing income due to this long drawn out trial ! It’s ridiculous !
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅
This trial is the biggest joke!!maybe BA was calling BH name out while being “intimate” with his wife… we already know this 2 kissed at the bar then went into another room alone at the house! What is really going on with these 2????😮 Why is it that it was so important to bring up the plow was down and had to be raised?? JM had her phone in her back pocket??🤔 but nagel said it was behind her with music playing!!
The timelines of ppl showing uo at BA house aint adding up 😳 per their times Karen hit John while the were ALL at the Alberts house 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ but NO 1 Saw his body in the snow👀
Nobody involved in the corruption ever imagined this case would be in the spotlight this way! They thought it would sneak by like so many of their other shenanigans have. Had they known how many eyes would be watching, they never would've attempted all the fxckery! This case blew up beyond their wildest nightmares.
That's my thought. That's and trying to pin it on a innocent person. I imagine if no one was being charged with murder it wouldn't have caused such a outrage.
Just ask yourself, you have friends that come over and hang out. And it's your property. and you're awoken by Jennifer screaming in the room. that they found John. He's in the snow in front. and that man does not jump out of his bed. He doesn't go try to give him CPR. He doesn't go to try to help a fireman. Right. Paramedic. Right. Zach gives it away right there. Number one. Number two. How many people? did you **** dial last night? Everybody has yourself back. How many people have you **** dialed in a whole month And then also, three of your friends, you and or two other friends, or however you wanna look at it, you all were **** downing each other last night, right? Or that night, The light on the back of her car piece. is of the plastic was found on the ground, right near the body. How about that? Two pieces at a 42 of them. That guy gets rid of the dog. They get rid of cell phones. Same chips. And it's funny that one **** when she was on the stand, everybody. in the chats. Everybody, everybody. We all said the same thing. She is lying. She's lying. She's lying. It was. lying. It was even worse as nobody could keep their story straight. His arm looks a bit up by a got dog cleared today. They get rid of the dog six months later. You get rid of the house six months later. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. There is so much evidence against those girls. And then. there is devilish friends. That guy that was talking with Karen you probably could honor or whatever. But when they plotted that guy's murder, that man spoke up and said, yes, Karen could be the fall. He knew information. He knew that she'd be vulnerable to be able to take the fall. They knew how to set her up. But the worst part of it all is it's the cops investigating with we all know they can lie. They will lie They change information All this information, all the pictures, all the videos, everything they have access to. in first case. in most cases. we saw on the reports alone. Look how they were able to change the times and the date on those reports. When you would think those reports are dos programmed. Basically where you can't change it. If you be unchangeable and look at all those reports. So anything in those reports are useless. I need to contact her attorney. Amazing team also got really blessed. God will protect her. But there is a very big test. that they need to look at that they didn't do that will help her case tremendously. But we can all see this was a clear setup and now the FBI wants to help. finally even the FBI sees how horrifying that Police Department is there. How horrifying all the evidence. Everybody all the people in those positions. with how everything was screwed up. Well, thank God they are watching. Please FBIFBIFBIFBIFBIFBI. test that blood again. on the vehicle. think about it. Test the blood again. That blood can tell you a lot more. Other Facts. contact me if you need. If you can't figure it out, but it can blow the doors open on this case and she will finally walk the hell out of there.
@@frsmith5069 actually, that is incorrect, the kids testified to the state of the relationship (motive) and niece testified to Karen’s behaviour as well as statements she made 4:30 am the morning.
She's a Jodi... narcissist immature individual that's deadly, to know Karen is to be permanently damaged in some way...all of these witnesses have been affected negatively just by knowing Karen Read IMHO❤️
It might've been missing inside the house if he was murdered there so they looked for it by calling his number then put it underneath his body when he was moved outside.
Karen feels self righteous with all the protesters yelling to free her. I hope people are not stupid enough to think she is innocent. Don’t do the Groupthink, use your own COMMON SENSE. She’s guilty
Then, you’d also have to agree every couple on earth is crumbling. These were silly arguments. Who argues in a bedroom? This wasn’t any different than most arguments. Moreover, anyone who saw them in video in that bar saw an affectionate couple. In fact one woman told her husband she wished they were more like Karen and John. Find a perfect couple, I dare you.
@@mauiswift6391 - That’s my point. You cannot assume a crumbling relationship leads to murder especially with little to no evidence they had a crumbling relationship. Nearly every testimony revealed they were like any other couple out there. You don’t find searches in her phone regarding how to kill someone. You never saw her search for how long someone has to be in the cold before they die. Nothing.
Even though the niece said all that about what Karen said that morning it's like the game of telephone she's not sure at this point I guarantee what she remembers from then and what she's been told by people like Jim McCabe over the last two and a half years because she's been around them a lot they didn't even interview the kids right away Shocker the worst investigation in the history of anything and when people try to say that oh it was the weather oh it was the first off it's Boston they're pretty used to weather but secondly the weather shouldn't interfere with doing interviews they just ignored them sometimes for 12 to 15 months unbelievable
I know its so sad civilised people care about mental health, where are the golden days of medival dark ages where everybody was dirty, miserable and ignorant, I know you want to go there you poor lost soul. Its not your fault you live in a century of empathy and understanding, you werent built to be civilised 😢
WOW, the niece eeven corroborates Jen's story. How many more people have to testify to her words before we can say that it is more likely than not that she admitted to numerous people that morning that he hit him. She was blacked out. She knew something bad had happened. & The butt-dials are weird though, lol, but not evidence of a cover up. They are covering up something, but seemingly not murder as far as I can tell.
Why would she murder her bf then come to the scene and immediately confess? No one can explain to me why she would kill him then go sleep and then get a bunch of people to the scene so she can kinda confess. And the only people that heard her confess have a vested interest in her confessing.
@@ashleybrown1666 Most likely cause Karen and her shifty lawyer decided that everyone and everything (poor dog) was gonna be guilty in defense of the real murderer, rejected Karen!!!! Being Law Enforcement and FBI, they knew they were gonna be dragged to the dungeons of the folks who have vitriol against them. Why give them any ammo when the shifty lying defendant and her lawyer are gonna say whatever it takes to get that broken tail light off of her?
It really bothers me when someone's lying and throwing the suspicion at others, and that's what karen Read has done. Aside from a theory that somehow it's a cover-up, all the evidence points to karen. It REMINDS us OF THE Susan Smith case everyone loved her, but she was a good actress and had us all fooled. I watched the Karen Read trial, and I didn't see anyone lieing.All the evidence is incontrovertible. Starting from her frantically screaming at everyone that day .Why would she yell to first responders = I HIT HIM ,I HIT HIM ,O MY GOD I HIT HIM If she did no wrong? why wasn't she asking who could have done this? Is it because she didnt ask because she did it?Who says things like this and dont tell me it was because she was traumitized.Truth is she led Jen and Kerri right to the body in the snow.Wow her own guilt spoke volumes at that time until she decided to not talk. WHO Says things like that. WHEN SHE called Jen, she was screaming and said she had a fight with OKEEFE = admission of guilt.WHO says that if you're innocent, even JOHN OKEEFE told witnesses at Aruba Karen's crazy. Karen wanted out of the relationship and thought JOHN WAS CHEATING on her. It WAS EVEN SICKER in her texts to Higgens that she not only hated JOHN SHE DESPISED TAKING CARE 🤔 OF JOHNS KIDS THERE WAS NO COVER UP. KAREN.DROPPED OFF John and hated the people at the party for once, excluding her, and also hated John for cheating on her . In a rage, she backed into John while he was bending down with a glass in his hand, and her back corner of her car hit John's head and he went flying stumbling off the road onto the lawn. Nobody planted the broken glass John had in his hand on the video. Nobody planted the broken taillight glass. No one planted John's hair found on the bumper. No one planted the bent bumper. No one planted the blood,No one googled the text. How long does it take to die in the snow? That was debunked by JEN and a paramedic RESPONDER. Karen askec Jen to google at a later time. The time stamp in forensics will prove that google had fault.There was an EXPERT SHOWED THERE WAS NO DOG DNA FOUND. NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE O'KEEFFE ENTERED THE HOUSE after dozens of witnesses at the house.YOU SEE people want there to be a cover up because of conspiracy theories, paranoia, history of injustices and hatred of police or any type of authority over you just like in the bible people crucified Jesus .The case was tried in the media with no evidence . The only thing they had was that some leaked heresays were theories, Truth is, if Karen gets off because of the theorists, it will hurt her worse in the long run. But if she repents and admits she hit him and it was in a fit of rage or was an accident, her sentence of keeping her dirty little secret hid will destroy her . But if she comes clean, she will be burdened free of her own self guilt. JESUS SAID YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE. IF YOU ARE REALLY HONEST AND SEEK TRUTH AND KNOW GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENABLING YOU TO MAINTAIN YOURSELF IN A LIE THEY CANT HELP YOU FROM GODS JUDGEMENT. I WANT KAREN FREE TOO BUT BECAUSE OF FEAR,THE CROWD SUPPORTING HER, HER NOT WANTING THD TRUTH, SPECULATIONS GALORE AND HATRED FOR OTHERS KAREN HERSELF WILL BE IN HER OWN PRISON FOREVER. SOUNDS ALOT LIKE JESUS AND THE CROWD WANTING BARRABAS FREE NOT JESUS.THE CROWD WANTS COSPIRACY THEORY TO WIN NOT THE FACTS OF THE TRUTH IN THIS CASE. LIKE SUSAN SMITH KILLING THE INNOCENT I HOPE JUSTICE PREVAILS AND KAREN WILL ADMIT TO KILLING THE INNOCENT . PRAYING FOR THE FAMILY OF JOHN O'KEEFFE,
Stop. You look silly trying to defend this family. Everyone knows you know what's up. No one thinks you actually believe whatevers in that long azz comment.
It's too bad police didn't cuff the spoiled B and interviewd her confession ' I HIT HIM, I HIT HIM. 😅she would have had to explain why she said that and she would have said yes I did it. Tax payers would have been blessed and another animal in jail😅
There are degrees of hit.. still hit is contact.. thinking she pinched him between vehicles that doesn't break or injured but doesn't let him move, she was drunk broke glass, threatened him, he raised his arm to protect himself, the dog heard commotion ran out, she heard door or dog that was merely doing to get trouble, so she jumped in John fell and dog was bearing down on him imo❤️
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅
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I have never "butt dialed" a single number since I got a smart phone. My phone is playing music or TH-cam all day while I walk dogs, run errands for clients, do seasonal work outside or am at the gym all the while my phone is in my pocket. These people are disgusting and ridiculous. John O'Keefe deserves justice. The only way that can happen is to bring this bunch of liars in for their own trial after Karen Read is found not Guilty.
I left my phone on my coach My dog placed 3 phone calls
Butt dialing John, by Jenn M. Means she had him last recent call. She may have called to look for him when they all saw his truck. The kids saw it, some people in the house saw it. Messed up about the lying, when looking for the his phone, or him?? I thought it was more, dial - listen, hang up.
If you use any kind of auto lock on your phone (fingerprint, passcode or facial recognition), there is no way to "butt dial" your phone that many times to either one number or multiple numbers.
Butt dials were unanswered calls that either hung up after a few seconds or went to the answering machine ,. Sheesh the speculation and conspiracy theorists stink to high heaven 😳 you go turtleboy hahahaha ,,NOT
Bro was just up hanging with his wife at 2:30 AM. Everyone's just 50 years old and up and about at 2 am, butt dialing each other, but, every 30 year old I know is crashing out at 1 am ....
Yup. Butt dials and a courtesy return butt dial. Imagine being a 50 something grown ass man and going to bars constantly and trying to show off to everyone how cool and strong you are by play fighting with your buddy. Ick. Overgrown middle schoolers the lot of em.
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅
@@davidking6986 Establishing motive isn't required for a conviction, e.g. we may never know the motive. As you said, it's a small town, the motive could be literally anything. From Brian Higgins wanting to fuck Karen, to John calling Jen fat when they were in high school. The prosecution giving me a motive only really tells me they understand story structure. It's not like they're actively investigating possible motives for anyone else. They've only had 1 suspect, 1 trial and therefore only 1 motive to offer the jury.
Wrong, they preserved the crime scene the best they could in a major blizzard, and the snow plow pilesd the snow along the bank with the shoe glass and tail light pieces mixed. If you think the entire police force planted all the forensic evidence and all risked their careers and jobs for life, then your way more gullible than I thought. Facts are facts, and you can not discount the physical forensic evidence as well as the multiple direct eye witnesses corroborating the dozens of pieces of evidence. WELL, I guess you could if your belief in a Frame up only allows the conspiracy theory, Please open your minds and come out from that turtle boy cult. Facts a fact Jen and Kerry both were with Karen when she frantically was screaming all kinds of stuff at them. They both testified karen took them directly to John's body in the Snow, They bothAre police to be honored .? Are they to be respected. I think if you needed one you would be polite to them as they came to help you with your concern. MAYBE you got raped or robbed or you were being stalked or your car was stolen or your child raped,.? I think you at that time would honor and respect the seargent or captain,.? Or perhaps you would tell the officer to go fuck himself. If so why rely on police at all just try and figure it out yourself,.? Why call police at all after all you hate all police as if they were all little hitlers running around laughing beating and raping you old young women children and cutting off babies heads.Your right don't call police and try and investigate it yourself. You want to keep to yourself and enjoy your Starbucks caramel latte with extra caramel and whip cream right,? I think you get the picture. I am police and they are great, No not perfect but great non the less,? All I'm asking you is to not fear the unknown. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU DONT KNOW,. KARENis guilty as fuck and needs psychological help. SHE LIED TO POLICE AND STARTED A CAMPAIGHN AGAINST HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND THEY ARE THE VICTIMS HERE,.Try and stay open minded and value the God given grace He has given you, BE a little grateful for what nice things you have,MY goodness relax and smell the roses,. Food for thought . Just saying,
Seabass,Are police to be honored .? Are they to be respected. I think if you needed one you would be polite to them as they came to help you with your concern. MAYBE you got raped or robbed or you were being stalked or your car was stolen or your child raped,.? I think you at that time would honor and respect the seargent or captain,.? Or perhaps you would tell the officer to go fuck himself. If so why rely on police at all just try and figure it out yourself,.? Why call police at all after all you hate all police as if they were all little hitlers running around laughing beating and raping you old young women children and cutting off babies heads.Your right don't call police and try and investigate it yourself. You want to keep to yourself and enjoy your Starbucks caramel latte with extra caramel and whip cream right,? I think you get the picture. I am police and they are great, No not perfect but great non the less,? All I'm asking you is to not fear the unknown. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU DONT KNOW,. KARENis guilty as fuck and needs psychological help. SHE LIED TO POLICE AND STARTED A CAMPAIGHN AGAINST HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND THEY ARE THE VICTIMS HERE,.Try and stay open minded and value the God given grace He has given you, BE a little grateful for what nice things you have,MY goodness relax and smell the roses,. Food for thought . Just saying,
Thank you for the call time line. You guys are covering this trial way better than CourtTV imo
Yes, let’s rely on the cops for factual information about when KR had her last drink 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😅 only accept fairy Tales and conspiracy theories and not direct evidence😅 go eat some humble pie turtleboy followers😅😅😅😅😅 get a real job dude
All that bar footage should've shown her slamming back drinks. It would've been obvious she was drunk.
It's so cruel that they put the kids on the stand. Unnecessary and more traumatizing.
The wrong person is on trial.
Still waiting for all the incriminating evidence againt kr
It's like she's not even the defendant here
Ain't we all... That poor lady has been through hell smh
Occam's Razor, the story with the least amount of assumptions is the correct answer. She hit him with the car. If they beat him up and he died why would a cop drag him in front of his own home to be found? Read said, "I did it, I did it, I did it." That's a confession.
Because if the Alberts had called 911 about an injured John in their basement, it would have opened even more of a Pandora's Box. Like how did he get injured in the house and who caused his injuries. If he was found outside, anybody could have done it.
Occam’s razor, agreed.
Intent, though-do you think she did it on purpose or she was drunk and it was an accident? I’m torn.
If you search John O’Keefe injuries you can tell there is no way he got hit and killed by a car.
Snow plow could've caused injuries on his arm. If anyone remembers, the driver told two different stories after his supervisor told him to say he didn't drive down that road. Obviously, he did drive down that road. I don't know why the defense didn't slam the supervisor for telling his employee to change his story. That blows my mind. Maybe the defense is too focused on the cover-up nonsense.
The snow plow caused bite marks and scratches? And no broken arms or ribs? But enough to cause two swollen eyes?
@@11rgomesthere were no bite marks
@@joshkeeling82😂😂😂😂😂 WOW
I think I will wait for the ME to testify to his injures as well as the reconstruction engineer as to how he may have been struck. Everyone thinks they are an expert on the internet.
Hos Ling before Lally gives up?
The Alberts leave the front door unlocked all night.
The German Shepherd locked up inside the closet.
Nobody hears anything in front of their own house so nobody even looks outside.
The basement floor is ripped and the house is sold.
Cellphones destroyed.
The dog is shipped out on a permanent vacation.
There's a big problem of alcohol consumption in the Boston PD.
I don't know, I don't recall, I don't remember, objection-sustained and butt-dialing become common phrases in Auntie Bev's courtroom.
All very suspicious
The corrupt police will likely be the reason for Armageddon!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
Did you Butt text this.
Hopefully Jen McCabe will be in that box as a defendant soon.
Corrupt Canton at its finest
What a lousy one sided review of testimony. The defense tore those witnesses apart. And bringing those poor kids in to testify?! SHAME on Lally. They’ve been through enough
Did they know ? Yet they got no evidence to argue the third party liability.
Imagine if she got convicted. They'll carry that with them forever. They loved her and may feel partly responsible for ruining her life. I really hope they don't feel bad about anything.
These clowns make barney fife look like columbo....
Can you guys put a compilation of clips: diff witnesses answering the same questions? Specifically who drove who to both bars? Higgins Jeep may not have been there at all.
She could have went home and had a couple drinks so her BAC isn't relevant because everyone said she wasn't drunk that night
How could you summarize the evidence thus far and leave out the 2:20 am google search by Jen, “Hos long to die in the cold” that she later deleted?
This is a Boston “news” panel…
The CW has had the experts testify to it yet.
I'm watching for the Boston accents! 😂
Why are there so many off days? Short days?? Never seen anything like this I've been on 5 different juries. I would lose my mind sitting around !!
Just because there are cops at the house does not mean there was conspiracy😅
Your correct. It's all the other stuff that points to the poorly executed cover up. Like the Google searches, the butt dials and return butt dials, no one seeing a dead body on the lawn while coming in and out and driving to and from the house, but also being keenly aware of exact locations of cars. The cellebrite data and all the deleted calls and texts, and the conveniently destroyed phones the day before a order to preserve. That stuff. No one thinks it's a conspiracy because cops were there.
Pocket dial is what I call it and I'm almost sure I've never heard anyone around me call it a "butt dial"
Never heard that Expression either Till this case
We all do. Sorry. It's usually in your back pocket
It's hilarious to me imagining these grown men walking around with their phone in their back pocket like a teenage girl
@@fionaryder632 do you also live in a New England state?
@@MirandaFrates I grew up in Missouri and Mississippi, but must admit I haven't been Home in ages. Greetings from Europe! Never heard the Expression from Britisch Friends either.
They Should All be Embarrassed… As Chris Albert, The Canton Town Selectman, likes to say!!!
😂That's on the dump Canton voters, who voted for a dumbfounded MAGA, Orange Jesus Fals Prophet Psycho Trump supporter.......
You can't vote for someone, because they are the loudest and craziest of the politicians...
Why are they dragging this trial out?
Your phone does not unlock by "accident." If you have a lock on it, and you would think all of these people would with paying things by cellphone nowdays, you can only call emergency services. My daughter did this at 17 at a friend's house. The police called her back and then visited to check in. She was mortified!
Motive? Motive? Motive? 🤨
Wow ….. My only words ….. #FreeKarenRead !🖤💔American 🇺🇸🎤
She is the only reason he was there that night, yes? Hi Everybody!! ❤️
If someone said to me "Maybe I hit him, did I hit him?" I would have asked them "Why do you say that? What happened that you think this? Did no one ask questions??
Jen told Karen he didn't come in the house. IF KR said anything like that it was on that premise.
Apparently no one put karen on the hot seat when she confessed at the time because of probable cause not present but there was. Karen stopping talking and acted innocent, She would have confessed all the way if confronted and interviewed by the police when she was confessing, Instead they deemed her insane and took her to hospital where she had time to concoct her lies,,
Johns phone said he was going up and down stairs before his phone pinged no more. Chew on THAT FOR A MIINUTE. PHONE PINGS DONT LIE.
Phone pings don’t lie, unless they don’t fit your cult narrative. Those are apple health data. What about phone gps location data that shows he never entered the house?
Okay, this is not correct. That was his health data from his phone, which is notoriously inaccurate and he was three minutes away Wazing 34
Fairview according to his data and Waze app.
How many drinks did she have when she got home
She had a big glass of vodka inside her coat when she entered the bar
Exactly! Without that information, the calculation is mute. CW has no factual evidence as to when her last drink was consumed.
Used an alcohol swab too.
She wasn't feeling well. She has Crohn's.
There's no way she would be able to drink that much.
She nursed a soda all night. Even brought it to the 2nd bar.
What proof do you have that it was a big glass of vodka.
It's been said it was water & lime.
Lot of butt dialing by 3 people at the same time.
Can someone tell me why no court since Tuesday and when it will be back on?
I believe a full day next Monday 6/3 and Wednesday 6/5, 1/2 day on Thursday 6/6 . So no court on Tuesday 6/4 or Friday 6/7 !
jackson on vacation. that's why yannetti did x-examination last week.
The BAC is wrong.
Okay an expert, who does this for a living, is wrong and you some know it all on ent internet is right! Come on provide the evidence it is wrong.
Why was it important for higgins to know??
Arrest everyone in the house and see who squeals first.
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The scratches on John’s arm came from a belt made from pigskin leather! That’s why it came back as pigs DNA when they swabbed the scratches on his arm. He was beaten with his own belt and they didn’t put it back with the other evidence on the lawn at the crime scene because it has John’s blood on it! The scratches on his arm are consistent with the fact that someone took his belt, folded it in half like a whip and beat him with it. The scratches on his arm are defensive wounds from putting his arm up to protect his face. Notice how the scratches are in groups of 2. This is consistent with being whipped by the belt loop causing the scratches to come in groups of 2!!
I hope this is not how trials are performed in canton! Speedy trial this is NOT!!! Do the jurors not have jobs? Court one day a wk, half days, off days is absolutely ridiculous!
Unfortunately, the court does not care if you have a job. It’s your civic duty to serve, and your employer can’t do anything about it ! Yes, it’s stinks that they are losing income due to this long drawn out trial ! It’s ridiculous !
Warmth and care? They called her the defendant, who told them to call Karen that/ sick people
She is a defendant tho ND they have been told she did it even tho she didn't so of course they r upset with her
They never looked at her either. They know she did it.
Your defendant! 😅😅
No cameras on Fairview drive!?
Matter of fact wernt multiple ring cameras on the fritz that night?
Every day I learn that Karen Read is innocent and there's way more corruption & incompetence in MA law enforcement than we thought.
Higgins was there the same day johns body was found, just 4.5 hours earlier. You got that wrong in the opening of this video
Why did they only have court once this week? Trial will never end lol!!
🎶song One Step Ahead of You... would be my song for Karen
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅
This trial is the biggest joke!!maybe BA was calling BH name out while being “intimate” with his wife… we already know this 2 kissed at the bar then went into another room alone at the house! What is really going on with these 2????😮
Why is it that it was so important to bring up the plow was down and had to be raised?? JM had her phone in her back pocket??🤔 but nagel said it was behind her with music playing!!
The timelines of ppl showing uo at BA house aint adding up 😳 per their times Karen hit John while the were ALL at the Alberts house 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ but NO 1 Saw his body in the snow👀
Ima casual...can't the phone companies produce text messages? Or is that just in the movies?
That blood level is moot. She have alcohol at home???
Did they do a blood alchohol test of all those teenagers partying at a cops home? How about all the people who were there? Seems everybody was drunk.
She's even suckered in her attorneys to believe imo
Nobody involved in the corruption ever imagined this case would be in the spotlight this way! They thought it would sneak by like so many of their other shenanigans have. Had they known how many eyes would be watching, they never would've attempted all the fxckery! This case blew up beyond their wildest nightmares.
That's my thought. That's and trying to pin it on a innocent person. I imagine if no one was being charged with murder it wouldn't have caused such a outrage.
Maybe she went home after dropping Jon off and had a drink before she laid down
I butt dialed my phone was on my??????
It’s 2024 nobody’s phone dose this anymore their phones would have to be out dated . Why not just give them lie detector tests ?
I don’t think lie detector test is admissible in court as they are unreliable. I can tell they all lying w/o a test. 🤣
Right not w/ lock screen. But they all donr know how to use them tho!!!
Yeah minors should be involved in this trial
Yes, they are teenagers and they can testify to the fact the relationship wasn’t great.
Just ask yourself, you have friends that come over and hang out. And it's your property. and you're awoken by Jennifer screaming in the room. that they found John. He's in the snow in front. and that man does not jump out of his bed. He doesn't go try to give him CPR. He doesn't go to try to help a fireman. Right. Paramedic. Right. Zach gives it away right there. Number one. Number two. How many people? did you **** dial last night? Everybody has yourself back. How many people have you **** dialed in a whole month And then also, three of your friends, you and or two other friends, or however you wanna look at it, you all were **** downing each other last night, right? Or that night, The light on the back of her car piece. is of the plastic was found on the ground, right near the body. How about that? Two pieces at a 42 of them. That guy gets rid of the dog. They get rid of cell phones. Same chips. And it's funny that one **** when she was on the stand, everybody. in the chats. Everybody, everybody. We all said the same thing. She is lying. She's lying. She's lying. It was. lying. It was even worse as nobody could keep their story straight. His arm looks a bit up by a got dog cleared today. They get rid of the dog six months later. You get rid of the house six months later. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. There is so much evidence against those girls. And then. there is devilish friends. That guy that was talking with Karen you probably could honor or whatever. But when they plotted that guy's murder, that man spoke up and said, yes, Karen could be the fall. He knew information. He knew that she'd be vulnerable to be able to take the fall. They knew how to set her up. But the worst part of it all is it's the cops investigating with we all know they can lie. They will lie They change information All this information, all the pictures, all the videos, everything they have access to. in first case. in most cases. we saw on the reports alone. Look how they were able to change the times and the date on those reports. When you would think those reports are dos programmed. Basically where you can't change it. If you be unchangeable and look at all those reports. So anything in those reports are useless. I need to contact her attorney. Amazing team also got really blessed. God will protect her. But there is a very big test. that they need to look at that they didn't do that will help her case tremendously. But we can all see this was a clear setup and now the FBI wants to help. finally even the FBI sees how horrifying that Police Department is there. How horrifying all the evidence. Everybody all the people in those positions. with how everything was screwed up. Well, thank God they are watching. Please FBIFBIFBIFBIFBIFBI. test that blood again. on the vehicle. think about it. Test the blood again. That blood can tell you a lot more. Other Facts. contact me if you need. If you can't figure it out, but it can blow the doors open on this case and she will finally walk the hell out of there.
And one more thing, you know brian h, talked about the kiss w/karen. Guys cant keep quiet, ever.
Publish the 72 page transcript of the children's testimony
That will not be available until the trial has concluded.
@@frsmith5069 actually, that is incorrect, the kids testified to the state of the relationship (motive) and niece testified to Karen’s behaviour as well as statements she made 4:30 am the morning.
She's a Jodi... narcissist immature individual that's deadly, to know Karen is to be permanently damaged in some way...all of these witnesses have been affected negatively just by knowing Karen Read IMHO❤️
Sounds like you’re projecting.
If jen knew he was murdered whÿ would she search for his phone which was underneath him
It might've been missing inside the house if he was murdered there so they looked for it by calling his number then put it underneath his body when he was moved outside.
@@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_plswild
These jurors need more time off
Who needs enemies with friends like them
She don’t kill her boyfriend she’s not guilty
I agree she is 100% innocent
Karen feels self righteous with all the protesters yelling to free her. I hope people are not stupid enough to think she is innocent. Don’t do the Groupthink, use your own COMMON SENSE. She’s guilty
My common sense and every single bit of evidence so far .. say she is innocent... What are you seeing that I don't say
It's really gotta suck trying to defend that family in these comment sections. Trying to pretend like you believe she's guilty. Oof
Sue doesn’t seem to understand the importance of the kids testimony.: the relationship was crumbling
Then, you’d also have to agree every couple on earth is crumbling. These were silly arguments. Who argues in a bedroom? This wasn’t any different than most arguments.
Moreover, anyone who saw them in video in that bar saw an affectionate couple. In fact one woman told her husband she wished they were more like Karen and John.
Find a perfect couple, I dare you.
Sue has some questionable views IMO.
@@sythmc8600most people aren’t on trial for killing the other.
@@mauiswift6391 - That’s my point. You cannot assume a crumbling relationship leads to murder especially with little to no evidence they had a crumbling relationship. Nearly every testimony revealed they were like any other couple out there. You don’t find searches in her phone regarding how to kill someone. You never saw her search for how long someone has to be in the cold before they die. Nothing.
I think the main takeaway she got from it is it they argued about like every other couple in the world, but never got physical with each other
His friends did not kill him . His jealous girlfriend did
Not quilty
I agree 100%
Even though the niece said all that about what Karen said that morning it's like the game of telephone she's not sure at this point I guarantee what she remembers from then and what she's been told by people like Jim McCabe over the last two and a half years because she's been around them a lot they didn't even interview the kids right away Shocker the worst investigation in the history of anything and when people try to say that oh it was the weather oh it was the first off it's Boston they're pretty used to weather but secondly the weather shouldn't interfere with doing interviews they just ignored them sometimes for 12 to 15 months unbelievable
But for the defendant, John would not have been there that night, John was last seen alive with the defendant.
It was allowing these children to offload...thats T H E R A P U T I C..this channel is so biased..
I know its so sad civilised people care about mental health, where are the golden days of medival dark ages where everybody was dirty, miserable and ignorant, I know you want to go there you poor lost soul. Its not your fault you live in a century of empathy and understanding, you werent built to be civilised 😢
WOW, the niece eeven corroborates Jen's story. How many more people have to testify to her words before we can say that it is more likely than not that she admitted to numerous people that morning that he hit him. She was blacked out. She knew something bad had happened. & The butt-dials are weird though, lol, but not evidence of a cover up. They are covering up something, but seemingly not murder as far as I can tell.
niece didn't corroborate jen's story- she told what she saw & felt. ur sick 2 keep pushing tb's made up garbage.
Why would she murder her bf then come to the scene and immediately confess? No one can explain to me why she would kill him then go sleep and then get a bunch of people to the scene so she can kinda confess. And the only people that heard her confess have a vested interest in her confessing.
Karen Read is guilty.
What trial are u watching 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@ro8247😂 this is the worst place to read the comments. I prefer attorneys Melanie Little and Mark Bederow for facts. FKR💯💯💯
What channel are you watching?? She is 100% innocent
And you are flat out stupid.
By the Split Endz 🎶
So? They made phone calls....WOW!!! Karen murdered John, so they (John's FRIENDS) talked! Much ado about nothing!
then why are they denying making the phones calls?
@@gwp4eva maybe they really didn't make them. .....
@@suesingleton4927so why did they destroy phones and SIM cards and lie about almost every little detail????
@@ashleybrown1666 Most likely cause Karen and her shifty lawyer decided that everyone and everything (poor dog) was gonna be guilty in defense of the real murderer, rejected Karen!!!! Being Law Enforcement and FBI, they knew they were gonna be dragged to the dungeons of the folks who have vitriol against them. Why give them any ammo when the shifty lying defendant and her lawyer are gonna say whatever it takes to get that broken tail light off of her?
. That's the strange part too. Everyone and their nana got new phones. I keep mine till it's done wth me..😊
It really bothers me when someone's lying and throwing the suspicion at others, and that's what karen Read has done. Aside from a theory that somehow it's a cover-up, all the evidence points to karen. It REMINDS us OF THE Susan Smith case everyone loved her, but she was a good actress and had us all fooled. I watched the Karen Read trial, and I didn't see anyone lieing.All the evidence is incontrovertible. Starting from her frantically screaming at everyone that day .Why would she yell to first responders = I HIT HIM ,I HIT HIM ,O MY GOD I HIT HIM If she did no wrong?
why wasn't she asking who could have done this? Is it because she didnt ask because she did it?Who says things like this and dont tell me it was because she was traumitized.Truth is she led Jen and Kerri right to the body in the snow.Wow her own guilt spoke volumes at that time until she decided to not talk. WHO Says things like that. WHEN SHE called Jen, she was screaming and said she had a fight with OKEEFE = admission of guilt.WHO says that if you're innocent, even JOHN OKEEFE told witnesses at Aruba Karen's crazy. Karen wanted out of the relationship and thought JOHN WAS CHEATING on her. It WAS EVEN SICKER in her texts to Higgens that she not only hated JOHN SHE DESPISED TAKING CARE 🤔 OF JOHNS KIDS THERE WAS NO COVER UP. KAREN.DROPPED OFF John and hated the people at the party for once, excluding her, and also hated John for cheating on her . In a rage, she backed into John while he was bending down with a glass in his hand, and her back corner of her car hit John's head and he went flying stumbling off the road onto the lawn. Nobody planted the broken glass John had in his hand on the video. Nobody planted the broken taillight glass. No one planted John's hair found on the bumper. No one planted the bent bumper. No one planted the blood,No one googled the text. How long does it take to die in the snow? That was debunked by JEN and a paramedic RESPONDER. Karen askec Jen to google at a later time. The time stamp in forensics will prove that google had fault.There was an EXPERT SHOWED THERE WAS NO DOG DNA FOUND. NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE O'KEEFFE ENTERED THE HOUSE after dozens of witnesses at the house.YOU SEE people want there to be a cover up because of conspiracy theories, paranoia, history of injustices and hatred of police or any type of authority over you just like in the bible people crucified Jesus .The case was tried in the media with no evidence . The only thing they had was that some leaked heresays were theories, Truth is, if Karen gets off because of the theorists, it will hurt her worse in the long run. But if she repents and admits she hit him and it was in a fit of rage or was an accident, her sentence of keeping her dirty little secret hid will destroy her . But if she comes clean, she will be burdened free of her own self guilt. JESUS SAID YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE. IF YOU ARE REALLY HONEST AND SEEK TRUTH AND KNOW GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENABLING YOU TO MAINTAIN YOURSELF IN A LIE THEY CANT HELP YOU FROM GODS JUDGEMENT. I WANT KAREN FREE TOO BUT BECAUSE OF FEAR,THE CROWD SUPPORTING HER, HER NOT WANTING THD TRUTH, SPECULATIONS GALORE AND HATRED FOR OTHERS KAREN HERSELF WILL BE IN HER OWN PRISON FOREVER. SOUNDS ALOT LIKE JESUS AND THE CROWD WANTING BARRABAS FREE NOT JESUS.THE CROWD WANTS COSPIRACY THEORY TO WIN NOT THE FACTS OF THE TRUTH IN THIS CASE. LIKE SUSAN SMITH KILLING THE INNOCENT I HOPE JUSTICE PREVAILS AND KAREN WILL ADMIT TO KILLING THE INNOCENT . PRAYING FOR THE FAMILY OF JOHN O'KEEFFE,
Are you an Albert or McCabe family member? Cause no way someone is this stupid to believe these scumbags are telling the truth.
@@Theunspoiledprincess you're spoiled princess.
😂😂😂joke, give it up
Stop. You look silly trying to defend this family. Everyone knows you know what's up. No one thinks you actually believe whatevers in that long azz comment.
It's too bad police didn't cuff the spoiled B and interviewd her confession ' I HIT HIM, I HIT HIM. 😅she would have had to explain why she said that and she would have said yes I did it. Tax payers would have been blessed and another animal in jail😅
John got killed in that house something happened in that house at 230 am man
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Meaningless gossip
Higgins is guilty as f
There are degrees of hit.. still hit is contact.. thinking she pinched him between vehicles that doesn't break or injured but doesn't let him move, she was drunk broke glass, threatened him, he raised his arm to protect himself, the dog heard commotion ran out, she heard door or dog that was merely doing to get trouble, so she jumped in John fell and dog was bearing down on him imo❤️
Karen was the only one who had motive . Just because it happened to be in front of a cops house and there had been a party with cops involved does not mean there was some huge conspiracy. It's also a small town, and friends and professional friends know each other, so what.😅