I have been playing on plasmas TV's for more than 10 years. Mine died last week, so I bought an C1 55 inch LG OLED, but my good old 60 inch Samsung plasma will be missed.
*@ViceTech* You made a huge mistake, you should have bought the 65 inch C1 LG OLED TV instead of the 55 inch, then you wouldn't have missed your good old Samsung 60 inch Plasma TV.
I remember playing my ps3/360 on a lcd and then my dad bought a plasma 600hz i was blown away man. .. it was like upgrading the consoles definitely missed this technology
I have a little 37" Panasonic 480p plasma monitor from 2003, and it is awesome. Black levels are lacking, but you're absolutely right about the motion handling and uniquely appealing colors! This particular monitor seemingly has zero input lag and can beautifully downscale a 720p source. It's my favorite way to play Xbox 360, PS3, and 480p games. It even deinterlaces 480i seamlessly and properly handles 240p.
Wow Plasma TVs must be really good (this guy was so impressed that he even opened a TH-cam channel dedicated to plasmas 😆 ). Thanks for sharing your experience 🙂👍
Colors and brightness (whites) looked even better on CRT's, and to be honest I have never seen better looking picture than on HD CRT. But colors on Plasmas were more than acceptable (unlike LCD's), and sharpness was even better than on HD CRT, so I was very happy with plasmas overall.
Yeah, I still own two Sony XBR960 HD CRTs and they are amazing. But a good plasma is just as good overall. Only, in somewhat different ways (even though they have a similar kind of picture overall.) I own numerous plasma, including Pioneer PRO-101FD Pioneer PRO-111FD Pioneer PRO-950HD Pioneer PDP-4280HD Panasonic P55VT60 Panasonic P42S60 Panasonic P50GT50 Plasma advantages: -Perfect geometry -Better color accuracy (on several models) -More consistent blacks -Blacks generally look darker in most mixed content. -Gamma and grayscale are more stable -Clearer, more legible text -Larger screen size -Perfect level of softness/sharpness -Movement seems slightly smoother & less jumpy/juddery on 30fps games (likely due to the slightly greater amount of motion blur) -No noticeable flicker -No ionizing radiation -4 HDMI ports and many more inputs/outputs in general -Looks better with still images and movies -Much thinner profile -Lighter weight, easier to move HD CRT (Sony 34XBR960) advantages: -Clearer motion (plasma is good, but CRT is even better) -Darker black levels when the whole scene is dark (low average picture level) -Less noticeable phosphor trails -Lower measured input lag -Cleaner image (no dither noise) -Less overscan -Built in speakers are excellent I really love plasmas and CRT. They just produce a type of picture and motion you can't get on LCD and OLED TVs. I do own an LG CX OLED and it does have some advantages of it's own, but I prefer the plasmas and CRTs overall, which is why I still own them.
@@cyberedge881 the colour reproduction and fidelity on my pioneer krp is just so natural and accurate. I also have a Sony a95k for 4k blu rays and hdr but to be quite honest it doesn’t produce colour the way a plasma does.
@Pioneer Yeah, my Pioneer Kuros are overall my favorite TVs of all time. Everything looks amazing on them. Better than my LG CX hands down. That's interesting what you say about the Sony A95K. I was really hoping that QD-OLED would turn out to be the true successor to plasma. I have seen QD-OLEDs in Best Buy and wasn't overly impressed. Colors did seem more natural than WOLED, but still not as good as plasma. But I really need to see things in my normal viewing environment to fully understand how the technology stacks up. As a fellow plasma enthusiast, however, I tend to trust your judgement. I guess we're just going to have to enjoy our plasmas for as long as they last, and hope that something as good comes along in the future.
Hello my friend..I have a ST60 65 inch plasma tv bought at 2013 november and im more than happy playing my ps5 and pc!!Motion resolution is best..Contrast is amazing!!Shadow detail is super and colours are so natural and well saturated!!I thought a lot of times to buy a 77 c1 oled but i`ve seen it in close and,besides the HDR which is amazing,nothing else captured me..I will wait for panasonic to make a qd-oled,which will be out propably next year and pull the trigger!!!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i think panasonic will be amazing for games as well as its oled does have vrr and 120 frames..furthermore imagine bfi with qd-oled brightness..and on top of that the magic that only panasonic can deliver in natural skin tones,spot on shadow detail and colours ..a tv for another decade !!
@FULL HD I will not sell my plasma brother,i have a budget of 3k so i will buy a panasonic qd-oled in 1-2 years on discount..I still enjoy the series ''FRIENDS" on my plasma and it is a dream even on SDR!!!The qd-oled will be for hdr-games and hdr movies..Everything else will be enjoyed in plasma!!After many years people will realize what gems plasma really are and it will be only for collectors !!And for those who will pay top bucks to get one!!Mine is in top shape!!No image retention!!I take care of my baby a lot!!
@@tasoskehagio True, I have a Samsung S95C 77" and a Panasonic HZ 1000 65" - they're both gorgeus but a Panasonic with a QD-Oled panel would be my dream TV too - I doubt it's gonna happen though... :( Panasonic has a longterm contrac with LG so I don't think they're gonna switch to QD-Oled anytime soon. Even if they do, the other issue is size: now that I'm used to 77", I cannot go back to 65" - if anything, I'd like to upgrade to 83" and Panasonic refuses to concentrate on the bigger sizes, heck the 77" Z-series didn't even get an MLA panel for two years in a row now. Once Panasonic enters the QD-Oled market (if at all), there will be 83" or even bigger QD-Oled TVs from other brands so I probably won't have any incentive to buy a Panasonic again...
I have used plasmas for games and movies since 2006. My latest plasma that I'm using right now is a 60" Pioneer Elite. It is absolutely a great picture. I also have an OLED tv upstairs and I think they are pretty close in terms of picture performance.
I still have my 50” Samsung Plasma TV (1080p) from like 20 years ago as my primary living room TV. The picture quality is amazing. Even the Samsung rep who I spoke to at the local Best Buy told me that my only option to upgrade to get a similar or better quality picture would be a high-end OLED 4K TV. I’ll get one of those when the prices come down below $1000 for a 55”-65” TV 😆
Alway had Plasma TVs. Had that stupid idea to upgrade two years ago. After trying a few new TVs, from different price classes I bought a Panasonic VT50 and cant be more happy since then.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 after one year of using - I agree. It is one of the best TV. The picture quality is fascinating, no mater what content. I personally use it as a media center monitor, hanging on a gaming PC and consoles. No receiver, no regular TV needed. And I must say, my old plasma, an 800 € Panasonic from 2008, and the VT-50 are amazing PC monitors also ;)
Good choice. I have a GT50 and a VT60 and they're both amazing. Plasmas are incredible technology. The modern OLED and LCD TVs are inferior in important ways.
I have a 50 inch 1080p LG TV from 2011, inherited from my close family member for free. Works great, I use it for my PS4. Since it's big I don't really need to upgrade to anything, and it doesn't really have any burn ins. Been working for me for years, so I can't knock it.
Great channel and content. I have the same plasma tv with A Xbox series S. Best combo, but the C2 @120hz ps5 is unbeatable. Motion colors everything is better
Plasma is like vinyl, it makes no sense to try to describe these technologies in dry numbers, and compare them with modern devices. It must be seen and heard to understand. There are things "out of time" and this is true for plasma.
I completely agree. There's something special about the color reproduction and motion on a plasma. There's just more depth to the picture they produce.
@@cyberedge881 could not agree more. Just purchased a Sony a95k last month ( now calibrated)and I’m still glued to my pioneer krp. It’s colour reproduction is just so beautiful and natural.
After some research. Hlg is meant for sdr. It is a hybrid hdr sdr program. Just so happens that the c1 does it very well. Played streets of rage with hlg on and all the colors were deep and popped with no black crush. Watched it with sdr blu ray but turned off tone mapping and set it cinema. Now I don't need an silly calibrations from youtube.
I first got a cheap plasma at a thrift store and it was not good. The screen was probably used for a long time, maybe burned out or something. However I got another one at the same thrift store a few months later, and it blew me away. I own 2 LG OLEDs but I actually prefer the plasma for console gaming so it's my main TV now.
Dude I alsmost did the same thing. I had a rtx 2060 and wanted a 3080ti but couldn't find one. I already had a C1 so I was not taking advantage of it so I debated on buying a plasma for the 1080p gaming. Even though I have the 3080ti now I may still make this move.
The 2060 would work very well with the Plasma with DLDSR to upscale the res. If you have a 3080ti and a C1 I would suggest you to hunt only for the best of the best Plasmas if you want to try it. Pioneer Kuro 9th gen or Panasonic Zt or Vt 2013
Really a love story, you are a TV enthusiast just like me! I don't know if you're going to change the channel name, but your experiences with TV settings are cool. We're not going to play together because of the distance, I'm in Brazil but can you give me your PSN ID? Hugs, brother! Keep up the great channel!
Sure brother. We can play some multiplayer together one of these days. I don't play online usually and I don't even know what that number is but I will hit you up. What do you like? Apex. Warzone. Fortnite?
I'm planning to talk about everything tech related to gaming on the channel but one thing can't change, the reason why I started this TH-cam channel was because I was so impressed with the Plasma TV and I wanted to share that with everyone
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Just to have you on the friends list, I don't think it will be possible for us to play because of the ping, living a COUNTRY far away 😂 But if you want add me on PSN: iix-igor-xii
I got the a 52 inch Viera plasma top model when the 3d models came out. If it were 4k I wouldn't consider an upgrade. At this rate will probably keep it till it dies. Feels like I'm wasting the power of my 3080 ti though. After your advice will probably move it into back room as an extra tv for my boy to use. I'm still very impressed with any content I watch on it
@@paulcox2447 yeah run everything maxed out. Probably couldn't go back after I get an oled eventually but at the moment doesn't feel like I'm missing out on much.
@@cyberedge881 still using my plasma. Oled is still too expensive for the size I want. Want to wait till there is more competition and prices come down. The plasma is a bit dull during the day. But still a great tv at night. Got plenty of use out of this set.
I have had plazmas, lcds, I really like fast VA panels but I recently got and OLED and it is incredible. The black are so dark even on SDR content. Its better to not see an OLED in person imho, the issue with my Plazma tv was that it burnt in from my own negligence and it was only 1080p not great at 51"
I love this video. Is there any 4k capable TV that was produced that has great native motion resolution without any BFI ? I'm assuming those would only be 1080p or lower.
I started to Collect some of the most High End Pioneer, Panasonic, & Samsung PLasmas ever made I know the value will be worth more again when a lot of gamers start looking for them like they did CRT TVs!
Hey sorry to bother again with all my questions but it seems like I may be interested in getting a plasma TV for retro consoles gaming. I noticed you said a pioneer kuro would be good. Did you mean the elite version or not? Also, would you advise any other models of plasma tvs?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thanks I just saw a Pioneer Kuro 60 inches 2007 near me but as it's gonna be for gaming I might try to find a Panasonic. Also, it's for retro gaming (720p ps3, 360). Does it mean I should try to find a native 720 plasma instead?
yeah youre right they shouldn't have sacrificed the response time of the pixels. folks really wanted that input lag edge and marketing ended up promoting an inferior product. BFI is good enough for me though, but I'd definitely prefer native.
I was researching monitors because I have a bad LCD and I know CRT's are better because I have a 2005 CRT. Unfortunately, the analogue video in my gtx 960 is broken, so I needed an alternative. I came up with an initial expectation that I need a VA for the low black level - but I wanted to compare more. My phone, I knew was the best for that and it's an OLED. But I recall an era when the stores were filled with amazing displays, even 3D ones that somehow felt better than ones I see in the store today - I just figured it was nostalgia. I see a Pioneer Kuro 60" for 150 bucks on my local Facebook marketplace so I think you've given me a reason to replace my actual TV and I might reconsider my monitor as a Plasma as well.. I'll have to make a lot more desk room than my 27" takes up though..
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yep! It's 1080 and they say it's in good shape. Unfortunately, 65" is a little big for my desk.. so I'm going to find a 42 inch plasma for that. I'll see about finding a 1080 for that, but I think that even a 42" 16x9 1366x768 would be great - there's one panasonic at the local thrift store for only 40 bucks! Still not quite your 25 dollar find, but I think for the quality factor it's still stupidly good. This one only cost 3500 dollars in 2005.. no biggie.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I've talked to the guy. He admitted that his new monitor doesn't look as good as it. That's a good start! Says he's happy it'll go to a good home that'll fully appreciate it.
so based on your videos I started looking for plasma and found a couple of decent 2010 Panasonic TX-P42S10E for about 50€ But holy hell these things are gobbling up 300watts thats crazy :
Me and my friend used to play split screen online with a 50inch plasma. unfortunately he watched sports on it and a fox got logo got burnt in. lol It was awesome tho.
Mines not a 12 or 13 but it’s 11 and it was the best tv Best Buy had in there store at that time it has apps on it back than that was in heard of . Problem with plasma very expensive to make it’s a lot cheaper to make OLED it’s a damn shame they stopped moving forward with plasma but it was very expensive
I have a pioneer Kuro pro150fd with artisons portrait speakers and a a definitive technology subwoofer. I get more compliments on my plasma than I get with my Samsung oled. Funny story I always tell them is when they ask me what is this tv? I always say it was a special made tv for me that’s why it says Elite was made for the chosen ones 😂😂😂
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Still a good price forsure. You should learn about Micro led tvs. Not to be confused with mini led. It’s basically like Oled but has no burn in and can be 4000 nits. It will probably be 10-15 years before they are affordable though.
I have an Rtx 3080. Red dead redemption 2 with hdr looks incredible. A channel called Gamingtech. He shows you how to calibrate hdr settings for games.
Thank you. The only thing that worries me is the installation of new apps with Viera connect since it is an old model. It comes with Netflix but not Disney+ for example. Do you think the image quality is better than a current entry or mid level Panasonic Led?
Today after spending the afternoon calibrating an OLED C1 (at my brother) ... Arriving home my Plasma appeared dull SO I tuned my Panny GT30 to emulate the look of the C1 as much as possible. Had to abuse some settings in photo mode, but it's great visual experience. I know it's not SDR accurate, its purposefully trying a HDR OLED look. Contrast 100 Brightness + 21 Colour 99 Sharpness 81 WB warm Vivid colour on Reversal film effect on Eco off NR off Setup normal 24p smooth max Resolution enhance max Gamma 2.0 For these one has to test 18% gray to neutral wit cut controls. Then 80% gray neutral with gain control. Or full calibration to D65. WB balance R gain 14 G gain 8 B gain -30 R cut -6 G cut -3 B cut. -30
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yep, that's why vivid colour gives WCG so I have to measure but maybe 80% P3?? Oled is bt.2020 color 44 ; Of course it's not a complete perceptual match because I don't have both in the room.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you for the reply. I was meaning more about screen burn as a result of play video games on your TV? Have you found it to be an issue long term?
The Plasma TV at 60fps looks like 240fps because it's an impulse display, it also has natural Antialiasing. It's actually a fantastic display for gaming
I don’t know man, your talking no 4K resolution, no HDR10, no Dolby Vision, acceptable blacks but not “true blacks”, no Dolby Atmos support, no HDMI 2.1 support, no VRR support, higher risk of burn in. People want TVs to last for years, if not, decades. With the technology we have today at multiple price ranges and amazing picture quality, why would I get a plasma?
Dude I stumbled on your channel via Reddit. Enjoying your passion and content so far 👍🏻 I own my C1 for almost three months now. Thanks to you I gave HGiG another chance instead of DTM on. Now I play most games with HGiG and some witch DTM On, it depends... but HGiG looks amazing when playing HDR games. When I first got the TV there was an adjustment period because OLED felt really dim. Now it's totally fine. Do you have twitter?
We all know plasma tvs have native 600hz right ... So why cant I enable 120hz on my xbox series s? 🙄 It says my tv doesnt support it imao 🙄😂 Why are consoles too dumb to see that plasma tvs can run +60 hz? 🙄
It's 600Hz subfield drive because it's refreshing at 60Hz but 10 flashes for each refresh. Those flashes are different color combinations and the picture we see is a result of dithering, also those 10 flashes per frame have 3 of them very bright and the rest are very dim, that reduces the persistence (pixel visibility time) improving the motion clarity. The plasma TV at only 60fps/Hz looks like 240 when moving at 240 pixels per second. Watch my videos about the Blur Busters Law to understand better
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My living room setup is a 50" Panasonic Plasma, a PS2 and PS3 and a 2009 era home theatre system. All of it works great
I have been playing on plasmas TV's for more than 10 years. Mine died last week, so I bought an C1 55 inch LG OLED, but my good old 60 inch Samsung plasma will be missed.
*@ViceTech* You made a huge mistake, you should have bought the 65 inch C1 LG OLED TV instead of the 55 inch, then you wouldn't have missed your good old Samsung 60 inch Plasma TV.
My samsung plasma suicided 2 years ago so upgraded to a Pioneer. Absolutely best picture imo for gaming.
I remember playing my ps3/360 on a lcd and then my dad bought a plasma 600hz i was blown away man. .. it was like upgrading the consoles definitely missed this technology
I have a little 37" Panasonic 480p plasma monitor from 2003, and it is awesome. Black levels are lacking, but you're absolutely right about the motion handling and uniquely appealing colors!
This particular monitor seemingly has zero input lag and can beautifully downscale a 720p source. It's my favorite way to play Xbox 360, PS3, and 480p games. It even deinterlaces 480i seamlessly and properly handles 240p.
That's a nice screen size for a Plasma, I didn't know they existed. When I upscale on the Plasma y see no blurriness, specially with DLDSR.
Wow Plasma TVs must be really good (this guy was so impressed that he even opened a TH-cam channel dedicated to plasmas 😆 ). Thanks for sharing your experience 🙂👍
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Colors and brightness (whites) looked even better on CRT's, and to be honest I have never seen better looking picture than on HD CRT. But colors on Plasmas were more than acceptable (unlike LCD's), and sharpness was even better than on HD CRT, so I was very happy with plasmas overall.
I've heard that those fine pitch HD CRTs look incredible but they are very difficult to find.
Yeah, I still own two Sony XBR960 HD CRTs and they are amazing. But a good plasma is just as good overall. Only, in somewhat different ways (even though they have a similar kind of picture overall.)
I own numerous plasma, including
Pioneer PRO-101FD
Pioneer PRO-111FD
Pioneer PRO-950HD
Pioneer PDP-4280HD
Panasonic P55VT60
Panasonic P42S60
Panasonic P50GT50
Plasma advantages:
-Perfect geometry
-Better color accuracy (on several models)
-More consistent blacks
-Blacks generally look darker in most mixed content.
-Gamma and grayscale are more stable
-Clearer, more legible text
-Larger screen size
-Perfect level of softness/sharpness
-Movement seems slightly smoother & less jumpy/juddery on 30fps games (likely due to the slightly greater amount of motion blur)
-No noticeable flicker
-No ionizing radiation
-4 HDMI ports and many more inputs/outputs in general
-Looks better with still images and movies
-Much thinner profile
-Lighter weight, easier to move
HD CRT (Sony 34XBR960) advantages:
-Clearer motion (plasma is good, but CRT is even better)
-Darker black levels when the whole scene is dark (low average picture level)
-Less noticeable phosphor trails
-Lower measured input lag
-Cleaner image (no dither noise)
-Less overscan
-Built in speakers are excellent
I really love plasmas and CRT. They just produce a type of picture and motion you can't get on LCD and OLED TVs. I do own an LG CX OLED and it does have some advantages of it's own, but I prefer the plasmas and CRTs overall, which is why I still own them.
@@cyberedge881 the colour reproduction and fidelity on my pioneer krp is just so natural and accurate. I also have a Sony a95k for 4k blu rays and hdr but to be quite honest it doesn’t produce colour the way a plasma does.
@Pioneer
Yeah, my Pioneer Kuros are overall my favorite TVs of all time. Everything looks amazing on them. Better than my LG CX hands down.
That's interesting what you say about the Sony A95K. I was really hoping that QD-OLED would turn out to be the true successor to plasma. I have seen QD-OLEDs in Best Buy and wasn't overly impressed. Colors did seem more natural than WOLED, but still not as good as plasma. But I really need to see things in my normal viewing environment to fully understand how the technology stacks up.
As a fellow plasma enthusiast, however, I tend to trust your judgement. I guess we're just going to have to enjoy our plasmas for as long as they last, and hope that something as good comes along in the future.
Hello my friend..I have a ST60 65 inch plasma tv bought at 2013 november and im more than happy playing my ps5 and pc!!Motion resolution is best..Contrast is amazing!!Shadow detail is super and colours are so natural and well saturated!!I thought a lot of times to buy a 77 c1 oled but i`ve seen it in close and,besides the HDR which is amazing,nothing else captured me..I will wait for panasonic to make a qd-oled,which will be out propably next year and pull the trigger!!!
You have one of the best Plasmas, that's a tough upgrade brother. Hopefully Panasonic implements more gaming features next year
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i think panasonic will be amazing for games as well as its oled does have vrr and 120 frames..furthermore imagine bfi with qd-oled brightness..and on top of that the magic that only panasonic can deliver in natural skin tones,spot on shadow detail and colours ..a tv for another decade !!
@@tasoskehagio Sure it will. Also we're gonna need deep pockets to get that poppy
@FULL HD I will not sell my plasma brother,i have a budget of 3k so i will buy a panasonic qd-oled in 1-2 years on discount..I still enjoy the series ''FRIENDS" on my plasma and it is a dream even on SDR!!!The qd-oled will be for hdr-games and hdr movies..Everything else will be enjoyed in plasma!!After many years people will realize what gems plasma really are and it will be only for collectors !!And for those who will pay top bucks to get one!!Mine is in top shape!!No image retention!!I take care of my baby a lot!!
@@tasoskehagio True, I have a Samsung S95C 77" and a Panasonic HZ 1000 65" - they're both gorgeus but a Panasonic with a QD-Oled panel would be my dream TV too - I doubt it's gonna happen though... :( Panasonic has a longterm contrac with LG so I don't think they're gonna switch to QD-Oled anytime soon.
Even if they do, the other issue is size: now that I'm used to 77", I cannot go back to 65" - if anything, I'd like to upgrade to 83" and Panasonic refuses to concentrate on the bigger sizes, heck the 77" Z-series didn't even get an MLA panel for two years in a row now. Once Panasonic enters the QD-Oled market (if at all), there will be 83" or even bigger QD-Oled TVs from other brands so I probably won't have any incentive to buy a Panasonic again...
I have used plasmas for games and movies since 2006. My latest plasma that I'm using right now is a 60" Pioneer Elite. It is absolutely a great picture. I also have an OLED tv upstairs and I think they are pretty close in terms of picture performance.
Pioneers are probably the best Plasmas
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I had a Samsung and still have a Panasonic EDTV plasma...the Pioneer blows them away
I love your energy man, keep it up.
I still have my 50” Samsung Plasma TV (1080p) from like 20 years ago as my primary living room TV. The picture quality is amazing. Even the Samsung rep who I spoke to at the local Best Buy told me that my only option to upgrade to get a similar or better quality picture would be a high-end OLED 4K TV. I’ll get one of those when the prices come down below $1000 for a 55”-65” TV 😆
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Alway had Plasma TVs. Had that stupid idea to upgrade two years ago. After trying a few new TVs, from different price classes I bought a Panasonic VT50 and cant be more happy since then.
That's one of the best TVs ever made
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 after one year of using - I agree. It is one of the best TV. The picture quality is fascinating, no mater what content. I personally use it as a media center monitor, hanging on a gaming PC and consoles. No receiver, no regular TV needed. And I must say, my old plasma, an 800 € Panasonic from 2008, and the VT-50 are amazing PC monitors also ;)
Good choice. I have a GT50 and a VT60 and they're both amazing. Plasmas are incredible technology. The modern OLED and LCD TVs are inferior in important ways.
I had Sony GDM-FW900 CRT Monitor years ago. It was fantastic. Still watch everything on my G15 plasma. My S95B 4K HDR OLED tv sits idle.
You got them all
I have a 50 inch 1080p LG TV from 2011, inherited from my close family member for free. Works great, I use it for my PS4. Since it's big I don't really need to upgrade to anything, and it doesn't really have any burn ins. Been working for me for years, so I can't knock it.
Awesome 👍
Great channel and content. I have the same plasma tv with A Xbox series S. Best combo, but the C2 @120hz ps5 is unbeatable. Motion colors everything is better
Thank you! Enjoy then 👍
I still love plasma tv's. I even bought an old top of the line 65 inch Panasonic plasma recently. For Blurays I still prefer them to OLED.
It is a special technology
Thanks for your video!! I have a lg 65” plasma . I was thinking of an oled, now I’m scraping that idea 😃
I actually bought another Plasma
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Pioneer Elite PRO-151FD
It's rated at 500 watts but it will actually use more like 200 watts, so nothing to worry about unless you're using it 24/7.
Plasma is like vinyl, it makes no sense to try to describe these technologies in dry numbers, and compare them with modern devices. It must be seen and heard to understand. There are things "out of time" and this is true for plasma.
It would make anyone question what is resolution and refresh rate
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I completely agree. There's something special about the color reproduction and motion on a plasma. There's just more depth to the picture they produce.
@@cyberedge881 could not agree more. Just purchased a Sony a95k last month ( now calibrated)and I’m still glued to my pioneer krp. It’s colour reproduction is just so beautiful and natural.
Plasma should have evolved to OLED+Plasma = OLASMA . JUST IMAGINE
I still have my 2 panasonic plasmas. They are quality tvs and last a long time!
After some research. Hlg is meant for sdr. It is a hybrid hdr sdr program. Just so happens that the c1 does it very well. Played streets of rage with hlg on and all the colors were deep and popped with no black crush. Watched it with sdr blu ray but turned off tone mapping and set it cinema. Now I don't need an silly calibrations from youtube.
That's what I think, the TV is doing it fantastic
when I saw Quantum Dot Oled it was my first love. Still is.
I first got a cheap plasma at a thrift store and it was not good. The screen was probably used for a long time, maybe burned out or something. However I got another one at the same thrift store a few months later, and it blew me away. I own 2 LG OLEDs but I actually prefer the plasma for console gaming so it's my main TV now.
The Plasma at 60fps/Hz can look at times like 240 because it has 4ms of persistence
Dude I alsmost did the same thing. I had a rtx 2060 and wanted a 3080ti but couldn't find one. I already had a C1 so I was not taking advantage of it so I debated on buying a plasma for the 1080p gaming. Even though I have the 3080ti now I may still make this move.
The 2060 would work very well with the Plasma with DLDSR to upscale the res. If you have a 3080ti and a C1 I would suggest you to hunt only for the best of the best Plasmas if you want to try it. Pioneer Kuro 9th gen or Panasonic Zt or Vt 2013
Really a love story, you are a TV enthusiast just like me! I don't know if you're going to change the channel name, but your experiences with TV settings are cool. We're not going to play together because of the distance, I'm in Brazil but can you give me your PSN ID? Hugs, brother! Keep up the great channel!
Sure brother. We can play some multiplayer together one of these days. I don't play online usually and I don't even know what that number is but I will hit you up. What do you like? Apex. Warzone. Fortnite?
I'm planning to talk about everything tech related to gaming on the channel but one thing can't change, the reason why I started this TH-cam channel was because I was so impressed with the Plasma TV and I wanted to share that with everyone
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Just to have you on the friends list, I don't think it will be possible for us to play because of the ping, living a COUNTRY far away 😂 But if you want add me on PSN: iix-igor-xii
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I got the a 52 inch Viera plasma top model when the 3d models came out. If it were 4k I wouldn't consider an upgrade. At this rate will probably keep it till it dies. Feels like I'm wasting the power of my 3080 ti though. After your advice will probably move it into back room as an extra tv for my boy to use. I'm still very impressed with any content I watch on it
To use that 3080ti to its full potential definitely get an OLED.
You get to run 60hz with setting maxed out I assume. That's a great experience
@@paulcox2447 yeah run everything maxed out. Probably couldn't go back after I get an oled eventually but at the moment doesn't feel like I'm missing out on much.
The higher resolution is meaningless to me. In fact, I actually prefer the slightly softer image that plasmas produce.
@@cyberedge881 still using my plasma. Oled is still too expensive for the size I want. Want to wait till there is more competition and prices come down. The plasma is a bit dull during the day. But still a great tv at night. Got plenty of use out of this set.
I have had plazmas, lcds, I really like fast VA panels but I recently got and OLED and it is incredible. The black are so dark even on SDR content. Its better to not see an OLED in person imho, the issue with my Plazma tv was that it burnt in from my own negligence and it was only 1080p not great at 51"
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I love this video. Is there any 4k capable TV that was produced that has great native motion resolution without any BFI ? I'm assuming those would only be 1080p or lower.
Yes, hold your wallet, 600000 pounds not including the installation which required a crane to move half a tone, it was 4k PLASMA TV over 100inches
The next best thing in motion resolution is the Sony Trinitron FW900 as far as I know
j ai comparé une st60 plasma a un oled c1 en blu ray ,petite preference pour le plasma !!
I started to Collect some of the most High End Pioneer, Panasonic, & Samsung PLasmas ever made I know the value will be worth more again when a lot of gamers start looking for them like they did CRT TVs!
I bet it will, if I get as big as DF you will be rich
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Hey sorry to bother again with all my questions but it seems like I may be interested in getting a plasma TV for retro consoles gaming. I noticed you said a pioneer kuro would be good. Did you mean the elite version or not? Also, would you advise any other models of plasma tvs?
I got a Pioneer Kuro 9th Generation and it looks incredible. Check it out
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I'd recommend a Panasonic ST60 for gaming (lower imput lag) or a Pioneer Kuro 9G for movies
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thanks I just saw a Pioneer Kuro 60 inches 2007 near me but as it's gonna be for gaming I might try to find a Panasonic. Also, it's for retro gaming (720p ps3, 360). Does it mean I should try to find a native 720 plasma instead?
yeah youre right they shouldn't have sacrificed the response time of the pixels. folks really wanted that input lag edge and marketing ended up promoting an inferior product. BFI is good enough for me though, but I'd definitely prefer native.
It's analouge, you can't beat it. if they still made them, it would be amazing. but, anyway... might come back some day... and be easier to make :D
I was researching monitors because I have a bad LCD and I know CRT's are better because I have a 2005 CRT. Unfortunately, the analogue video in my gtx 960 is broken, so I needed an alternative. I came up with an initial expectation that I need a VA for the low black level - but I wanted to compare more. My phone, I knew was the best for that and it's an OLED. But I recall an era when the stores were filled with amazing displays, even 3D ones that somehow felt better than ones I see in the store today - I just figured it was nostalgia. I see a Pioneer Kuro 60" for 150 bucks on my local Facebook marketplace so I think you've given me a reason to replace my actual TV and I might reconsider my monitor as a Plasma as well.. I'll have to make a lot more desk room than my 27" takes up though..
Just make sure it's 1080p and good conditions. You're going to love it
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yep! It's 1080 and they say it's in good shape. Unfortunately, 65" is a little big for my desk.. so I'm going to find a 42 inch plasma for that. I'll see about finding a 1080 for that, but I think that even a 42" 16x9 1366x768 would be great - there's one panasonic at the local thrift store for only 40 bucks! Still not quite your 25 dollar find, but I think for the quality factor it's still stupidly good. This one only cost 3500 dollars in 2005.. no biggie.
Pioneer Kuros are the best, get that one, the size is something good too
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I've talked to the guy. He admitted that his new monitor doesn't look as good as it. That's a good start! Says he's happy it'll go to a good home that'll fully appreciate it.
so based on your videos I started looking for plasma and found a couple of decent 2010 Panasonic TX-P42S10E for about 50€
But holy hell these things are gobbling up 300watts thats crazy :
Yes and they get very hot, mine warms up the room during the winter, ni kidding, but if you get a one in good shape you will see how good it looks
I have pioneer Kuro PDP sc Lx 6090h since 2009 and I still love it. Well it was costing a huge amount of money.
I got a Pioneer Kuro 151fd
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Me and my friend used to play split screen online with a 50inch plasma. unfortunately he watched sports on it and a fox got logo got burnt in. lol It was awesome tho.
I'm not sure but I think the slight burning mine has is the fox logo.
My family and friends watched football on plasmas all day. Must have been more common than I what I experienced. lol
j adore la fluidité de la st60
Best info
Mines not a 12 or 13 but it’s 11 and it was the best tv Best Buy had in there store at that time it has apps on it back than that was in heard of . Problem with plasma very expensive to make it’s a lot cheaper to make OLED it’s a damn shame they stopped moving forward with plasma but it was very expensive
It even has gold inside, some people scrap them
Basically : Plasma gets you 90% the way there for 5% of the cost.
For sure, the best picture quality for the money
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I do prefer CRT but i absolutely love Plasma since i was a kid, i will eventually get a good Plasma that's for sure.
I have a pioneer Kuro pro150fd with artisons portrait speakers and a a definitive technology subwoofer. I get more compliments on my plasma than I get with my Samsung oled. Funny story I always tell them is when they ask me what is this tv? I always say it was a special made tv for me that’s why it says Elite was made for the chosen ones 😂😂😂
I later got a Pioneer PRO-151FD
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Try to find KRP-500m, this is a King of all plasmas...
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If this Panny plasma shocked you, then you will get a stroke if you witness a Pio 500 A/M for gaming and movies......you will touch an oled no more.
I heard those are fantastic, I'll try to hunt one of those
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yeah do that mate, I’m hunting for one in reserve but can’t find any for a long long time here in Denmark.
The new Panasonic oleds are incredible. I went with the Lg c1 though. 800 dollars for the 48in brand new.
Plus I play videogames and watch movies in a dark room. So I do notice that plasmas aren’t true black.
800 is a steal I paid 1000 plus tax plus 50 for the HDMI 2.1
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Still a good price forsure. You should learn about Micro led tvs. Not to be confused with mini led. It’s basically like Oled but has no burn in and can be 4000 nits. It will probably be 10-15 years before they are affordable though.
I have an Rtx 3080. Red dead redemption 2 with hdr looks incredible. A channel called Gamingtech. He shows you how to calibrate hdr settings for games.
Windows 11 also has auto hdr feature. It can make sdr games appear like hdr. Pretty interesting technology. It seems over saturated but still cool.
My dad has one.
We buy a tv to play and have fun
1 month later: professional Calibrator
😂 Brother! I do like to get into things deeply. Take a look at what happened with the guitar
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Ffs this is amazing 🤩 that’s what people call Multi talent lol
Keep the amazing work brother u really deserve all the support
@@aliblack3497 Thank you brother 👍!
crazy ay bro that for 25 bucks can be all you need instead of all this 4k qled stuff
I got another Plasma for 300usd that was originally 7k
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hi I just want let you know I'm watching through this now dude also I'm happy when I watch your video
oled jz 2000 ,vt60 ,kuro ,hz 2000 ,les tv que j ai adoré
Hi do you think a TX-P50ST50 is still worth today?
Absolutely, that's a fantastic 1080p plasma with a higher motion Clarity 2000 subfield drive. If it is in good shape go for it
Thank you. The only thing that worries me is the installation of new apps with Viera connect since it is an old model.
It comes with Netflix but not Disney+ for example.
Do you think the image quality is better than a current entry or mid level Panasonic Led?
@@lachaussetteorpheline buy a 1080p new chromecast. Done. Theyre great
Thanks but finally I bought the plasma haha
@@swardmusic thanks but I actually bought a plasma haha
Today after spending the afternoon calibrating an OLED C1 (at my brother)
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Arriving home my Plasma appeared dull SO I tuned my Panny GT30 to emulate the look of the C1 as much as possible. Had to abuse some settings in photo mode, but it's great visual experience.
I know it's not SDR accurate, its purposefully trying a HDR OLED look.
Contrast 100
Brightness + 21
Colour 99
Sharpness 81
WB warm
Vivid colour on
Reversal film effect on
Eco off
NR off
Setup normal
24p smooth max
Resolution enhance max
Gamma 2.0
For these one has to test 18% gray to neutral wit cut controls. Then 80% gray neutral with gain control. Or full calibration to D65.
WB balance
R gain 14
G gain 8
B gain -30
R cut -6
G cut -3
B cut. -30
Did you calibrate the OLED for SDR rec709, or DCI P3? The PLASMA color gamut is less than the OLED.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yep, that's why vivid colour gives WCG so I have to measure but maybe 80% P3??
Oled is bt.2020 color 44 ;
Of course it's not a complete perceptual match because I don't have both in the room.
So today I continued to tweak and measure, so full field black I go true black.
But the nicer thing is 95% P3 gamut.
Refresh rate?
60Hz, but it looks like 240 when panning slowly
What about screen burn?
Mine had an imperceptible burnt-in in the bottom right from a logo. It is definitely something to look out for when getting one
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you for the reply. I was meaning more about screen burn as a result of play video games on your TV? Have you found it to be an issue long term?
So you spend 50 dollars but then you pay 200 montly for the energy because it consumes 500watts 😂😂😂
I love my Panasonic plasma for movies but for gaming 60FPS is just a bit too slow.
The Plasma TV at 60fps looks like 240fps because it's an impulse display, it also has natural Antialiasing. It's actually a fantastic display for gaming
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I have a 240Hz TN display, 60Hz plasma looks like a 65Hz TN panel. Your brain picks up on the lack of information rather fast.
What plasma is it
Panasonic TC P42S1
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 you need to get a pioneer krp
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 did you calibrate it with patterns like BT2111
@Pioneer
Yeah, Kuros are my favorite.
EXPERIA PRO 1 4K 60 HDR
I don’t know man, your talking no 4K resolution, no HDR10, no Dolby Vision, acceptable blacks but not “true blacks”, no Dolby Atmos support, no HDMI 2.1 support, no VRR support, higher risk of burn in. People want TVs to last for years, if not, decades. With the technology we have today at multiple price ranges and amazing picture quality, why would I get a plasma?
Because people are giving it away, I paid $25 for mine.
I like the way may plasmas look better than my LG CX OLED.
Spoken from a man that hasnt seen content in person on a dialled in Kuro
Dude I stumbled on your channel via Reddit. Enjoying your passion and content so far 👍🏻 I own my C1 for almost three months now. Thanks to you I gave HGiG another chance instead of DTM on. Now I play most games with HGiG and some witch DTM On, it depends... but HGiG looks amazing when playing HDR games. When I first got the TV there was an adjustment period because OLED felt really dim. Now it's totally fine. Do you have twitter?
Lol that was probably my post in OLED_Gaming
@@Wheestlee Thank you brother 👍
I don't have Twitter yet. So happy to hear that 👍
@@Wheestlee it was a post on this subreddit yes :)
We all know plasma tvs have native 600hz right ... So why cant I enable 120hz on my xbox series s? 🙄 It says my tv doesnt support it imao 🙄😂 Why are consoles too dumb to see that plasma tvs can run +60 hz? 🙄
It's 600Hz subfield drive because it's refreshing at 60Hz but 10 flashes for each refresh. Those flashes are different color combinations and the picture we see is a result of dithering, also those 10 flashes per frame have 3 of them very bright and the rest are very dim, that reduces the persistence (pixel visibility time) improving the motion clarity. The plasma TV at only 60fps/Hz looks like 240 when moving at 240 pixels per second. Watch my videos about the Blur Busters Law to understand better