@@allysefreewater3687 he did do the research, he asked the expert. The problem is that macro stores *half* the damage, so it would heal you for 50% + 200 potency, which on my DRG was about 48k
Go for it! I started my first extreme (and savage in general) in 6.4 with Golbez and it was pretty fun (static and PF). In my opinion, extreme isn't as bad as I thought it would be
re: 21:00, the longest pull I had yesterday was 10m53s and even that didn't see enrage, it's a looooooong enrage timer. We didn't hit the 25% phase push until around 8m10s that pull, so assuming they have separate enrage timers the p1-p3 enrage timer is over 8 minutes and the p4 enrage timer is at least 2m43s from the phase push
also whew this fight on Black Mage is a ton of fun but also a *lot* of work. Pretty much every 2m window has heavy forced movement so LL uptime is a mess no matter what you do
yea @1:10 Macrocosmos DOES work. it just wont get you back to 100% by itself. Been farming this as AST the entire time and Macrocosmos always healed us back to 55% ish by itself.
@@hara_shinigami Just a misunderstanding of what Macrocosmos does. It stores *HALF* the damage and heals for 200 potency + stored, so it should be a little over half your HP healed instantly. About 65k for tanks and about 48k for melees. You have ~23 seconds between the start of the encounter and Nox's hit, so if Astro lays down Combust + 2 Malefics and then places Star it should explode right after the Abyssal Nox on its own. Possibly even just your usual Combust and Malefic then earthly star
Black hole person can also literally just stay with the party, dropping it right against the north corner, with party a little south of them. Safe spot has enough space, and there's plenty of time to get away from the black hole expanding, and keep melee uptime the whole mechanic.
This is what my PF did, I think it's a bit riskier because if they're a bit late it leaves no room for melees but yeah you can just drop it in the very corner with the party
@@zayunaheimdell1317 What risk? It's stupidly easy to do, and you don't put the person with the marker at risk of dying to the beam if someone else doesn't mit or rescue them.
you don't risk anything, they get one if not 2 vulns and there is multiple options to keep them save such as rescue and tank mits. stupid easy@@OrionXIXI
For the blackhole bait the person can in fact Bait it W/E on the line without killing the party. Maybe save sprint if you have the marker otherwise you will die to it.
This is a pretty good one, though curious what was the solve if both players in the same corner got Nox? Was there a priority for one go to counter clockwise?
@@anthonydelfino6171 late as all hell but considering they're just baited aoes it probably doesn't actually matter, so unless there's some hidden mechanic where the aoes shouldn't be allowed to overlap each other here (?) i think it should be safe for both players to just stack on each other and even follow the same path if they want
they melee gets semi increased uptime (barely, its like 2 seconds of uptime) but then casters cant get their uptime cuz they ahve to move so its an overall net dps loss. Granted none of this matters cuz the boss is a joke and super easy with a lenient enrage
Macrocosmos does work, used it and it heals like 55% or so, add star and its full. Unless your co heal gets everyone to full first. Not sure why your astro said it doesnt work when it does....
at the very least, the two healers should go to the south safe spot for the bonds of darkness visceral whirl since they already go south for bonds of darkness, dont come north with rest of the party and then we all scramble to spread
The meteors…Everytime I think I’m good I either get to close or I’m waiting my turn in someone else’s line and I die. I do know you have to die before the phase so a meteor won’t appear. I got as far as 4% before enrage….i have done the fight so many times I know almost all the mechanics prior to 20% hp
Might be uncommon, but it is possible for both players in the same corner to get Nox, at which point you should determine who goes north/south and who goes east/west.
You don't need to spread the noxes though, they don't blow up or anything if they hit eachother as far as Im aware? Someone only dies if they're slow moving in the same direction as the other guy.
Ironicly the problem I run into party now is they can't get past his Enrage when he has between 5-15% HP left. Besides that the fights pretty bread and butter
Just completed this extreme raid this morning. The phrase 3 flares you showed was helpful to get through without running like a headless chicken! Question though: is it necessary to use LB before enrage/phase 4?
You think losing the Mount roll with an 80 is bad? Try rolling a 98 and losing it because some lucky bastard got a critical success and popped a 99. Happened to me TWICE while farming Suzaku
These Void Meteor and Black Hole strats are not great. The left paint diagram show one person on the right way too close to a comet and ignoring a very easy way to get further away, the two on the left are not positioned correctly to let the second set survive. There's at least two proximity kills on that diagram. The black hole strat is awful too, it's simple to just drop it in the corner of the northern safe spot and everybody runs away alongside the laser
I've done these pattern these exact ways and every time it works perfectly fine. And that Black Hole strat has MURDERED so many PF groups cause people pay literally no attention to the Black Hole in the corner lol
@@Mrhappy1227 Is there footage of that? Because the only pattern on your diagrams that your video shows resolve successfully is the right hand one, but you've got plenty of clips of mishaps going on whenever the left hand pattern shows up (and that's not even all of the patterns that can appear; I've got my own footage to show if necassary)
@@Mrhappy1227i like how your own trash video show cases you being wrong. No wonder in every single ultimate discord people are clowning on this garbage
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Worth mentioning that the players Void Meteor targets *isn't* random. It's always either supports first, or DPS first. You can use this to your advantage to preposition better.
@@Pyro_Salamander Someone in your party was either dead, or raising too late to get the appropriate buff. 1st set must pick 4 people assuming you have 4 people alive, so if a role is missing a member it will take from the opposite role. The 2nd set will pick whoever is remaining or hasn't been assigned.
I swear to god some people in Zeromus EX farm parties are just straight up griefing with meteor and forked lightning memes, fuck meteors in particular for being an instawipe
Void meteor is such a bad design, unless all party member learn all the patterns. Which PF doesn't care. It feels like you will be randomly getting pass the mech and clear or restart.
Sounds like skill issue to me. How is it literally any different from any of the plethora of mechanics that are hard mechanic-> body check? Also, as mentioned you can even cheese it by having your worst player die and not even get a mark.
@@amethonys2798 first off, i did not mention that it was difficult. it is problematic in pf where people don't bother to remember the pattern. I killed the boss 12 times now. people still don't get the pattern properly and the Cheese you mention, it is the norm, not cheese if you cannot strech it just don't let it be red. Sometime you die sometime others. it randomly sac people.that's exactly the bad design part.
@Gegarace there is nothing random about it lmao. You should never have to sack if its done right. The fact that you can to not wipe is actually great desgin as it throws some level of personal responsibility on top of the wider group responsibility. Sorry this one mech isnt fully brain dead like 99% of exes are
lol cant even find a single group for this crap since everyone marks it as duty complete or 650ilvl only. found ONE party after searching for 3 hours. . . and we got to enrage after 4 - 5 tries using this video of yours with us having 640ilvl. but people left after because it was late at night. thought i left wow to avoid this kinda of crap xD but i guess all the WoW players started coming here too.
Honestly sounds like some really unfortunate luck, I put up a party as I started watching this and was filled by the start of the phase 4 explanation, and this is on OCE, the dead data center, said group also cleared in a single lockout, fun fight
i ended up getting asked by some rando, and we ended up doing it in 5 attempts, i only died 1 time out of those 5 runs xD the fight was REALLY well made and really really fun to do, it wasnt annoying or anything. Golbes was cool AF too but that last Gale was so annoying lol.@@kurosakikun96
As a heads up, I asked our AST if Macrocosmos worked and they said no so thats why I said that here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ye, it does work just doesnt full heal but that plus star will
Ah Classic Mr Happy, "You can not use this skill it will not help!"
In comments "I didn't research before I made a guide"
@@allysefreewater3687 he did do the research, he asked the expert.
The problem is that macro stores *half* the damage, so it would heal you for 50% + 200 potency, which on my DRG was about 48k
so does it work?
@@Monstring yes it does, it will not full hp you bc it only heal a % you take +200 potency or something so that + star will do it
Old School MTQ : "If you fail the mechanic, you die"
New Mr Happy : "If you can't do the mechanic, end yourself"
I miss MTQ...
@@alexnibblett9222 what happened?
@@Tystolfo probably take a break just like hector reason why he didn't do guide for this fight
Directly in the middle of the room is completely safe for Void Meteor. You take very little damage, almost less than in the corner sometimes.
Seconding this. I even used Reprisal as a just-in-case and even then I doubt it was needed
Mr Happy never beating the uptime allegations
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I just got to endgame, and was thinking about doing this as my first extreme.
It's a pretty chill one to start with. Not very punishing. But still fun with a decent pace to it.
pretty good choice honestly. gl!
It's a good one as the first two are outdated so much
Go for it! I started my first extreme (and savage in general) in 6.4 with Golbez and it was pretty fun (static and PF). In my opinion, extreme isn't as bad as I thought it would be
The extremes are pretty easy once you learn the "dance" with each one. FF14 mechanics have become pretty predictable.
Great video as always! Love the sac meme as well was great the first time in woop’s video way back when still funny today😂
Dropping black hole in the corner next to the party is the best strat. Seen so many people panic sprint to get away and wipe the party
I've seen so many people get murdered by the Black Hole in the corner too. Can't help everyone lol
@@Mrhappy1227 haha very true.
Macrocosmos absolutely works.
I like this fight design, more of this kind of stuff and less generic spread/stack
Enrage is about 11:08 but can vary depending on when you push the boss into the last phase.
macrocosmos does work tho
Darn it I can't seem to figure out the meteor's distance tether, I need MrHappy's wise words on this.
MrHappy : 10:33
Aight on my way then
re: 21:00, the longest pull I had yesterday was 10m53s and even that didn't see enrage, it's a looooooong enrage timer. We didn't hit the 25% phase push until around 8m10s that pull, so assuming they have separate enrage timers the p1-p3 enrage timer is over 8 minutes and the p4 enrage timer is at least 2m43s from the phase push
also whew this fight on Black Mage is a ton of fun but also a *lot* of work. Pretty much every 2m window has heavy forced movement so LL uptime is a mess no matter what you do
yh the 2 minute window sucks on literally every caster :( crying in healer@@bsc649
Macrocosmos works
yea @1:10 Macrocosmos DOES work. it just wont get you back to 100% by itself. Been farming this as AST the entire time and Macrocosmos always healed us back to 55% ish by itself.
I was going to say! Either my co-healer is pumping out some serious healing or it has been helping :')
Our AST said it didn't work at all so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Mrhappy1227macrocosmos worked in a previous fight with the same mechanic.
@@Mrhappy1227 sounds like a skill issue.
@@hara_shinigami Just a misunderstanding of what Macrocosmos does. It stores *HALF* the damage and heals for 200 potency + stored, so it should be a little over half your HP healed instantly. About 65k for tanks and about 48k for melees. You have ~23 seconds between the start of the encounter and Nox's hit, so if Astro lays down Combust + 2 Malefics and then places Star it should explode right after the Abyssal Nox on its own. Possibly even just your usual Combust and Malefic then earthly star
Black hole person can also literally just stay with the party, dropping it right against the north corner, with party a little south of them. Safe spot has enough space, and there's plenty of time to get away from the black hole expanding, and keep melee uptime the whole mechanic.
This is what my PF did, I think it's a bit riskier because if they're a bit late it leaves no room for melees but yeah you can just drop it in the very corner with the party
Why risk that? Just have it in the opposing corner and have tanks mit the person
@@zayunaheimdell1317 for melee uptime
@@zayunaheimdell1317 What risk? It's stupidly easy to do, and you don't put the person with the marker at risk of dying to the beam if someone else doesn't mit or rescue them.
you don't risk anything, they get one if not 2 vulns and there is multiple options to keep them save such as rescue and tank mits. stupid easy@@OrionXIXI
21:53 Copium is a hell of a drug
Flare prog? Meteors. Black hole prog? Meteors. Post meteor cleanup? Meteors. It's all just meteors. Every single party finder is just meteors.
Macrocosmos will work, saw it with my own eyes 👀
Just put the black hole at the front into the furthest pixel of the starting corner
For the blackhole bait the person can in fact Bait it W/E on the line without killing the party. Maybe save sprint if you have the marker otherwise you will die to it.
9:30 just have a left to right priority for the baits. M1-M2-R1-R2 / MT-OT-H1-H2.
We found moving Nox clockwise was a reliable way to resolve baiting without having to think about where other nox aoes are
This is a pretty good one, though curious what was the solve if both players in the same corner got Nox? Was there a priority for one go to counter clockwise?
@@anthonydelfino6171 late as all hell but considering they're just baited aoes it probably doesn't actually matter, so unless there's some hidden mechanic where the aoes shouldn't be allowed to overlap each other here (?) i think it should be safe for both players to just stack on each other and even follow the same path if they want
Black hole can be baiter max melee close to wall where zerous' facing, so if it's a melee, they could get uptime
Why do that when you can go to the opposite corner and have the party not move
@@zayunaheimdell1317 36 totens and PF do always like that
they melee gets semi increased uptime (barely, its like 2 seconds of uptime) but then casters cant get their uptime cuz they ahve to move so its an overall net dps loss. Granted none of this matters cuz the boss is a joke and super easy with a lenient enrage
I would absolutely like to see more fights with reliable Rescue strats. I almost never use that button and would like to do so.
I miss p12s rescue strats, kinda unnecessary with some specific positioning but was fun to do in the early days
Mr. Yappy on this one ngl
Macrocosmos does work, used it and it heals like 55% or so, add star and its full. Unless your co heal gets everyone to full first. Not sure why your astro said it doesnt work when it does....
10:35 LMAO
Macrocosmos absolutely works, though
at the very least, the two healers should go to the south safe spot for the bonds of darkness visceral whirl since they already go south for bonds of darkness, dont come north with rest of the party and then we all scramble to spread
The meteors…Everytime I think I’m good I either get to close or I’m waiting my turn in someone else’s line and I die. I do know you have to die before the phase so a meteor won’t appear. I got as far as 4% before enrage….i have done the fight so many times I know almost all the mechanics prior to 20% hp
Headless Chickens is the essence of my gameplay.
This looks way easier than golbez
Is easier 😊
Might be uncommon, but it is possible for both players in the same corner to get Nox, at which point you should determine who goes north/south and who goes east/west.
You don't need to spread the noxes though, they don't blow up or anything if they hit eachother as far as Im aware? Someone only dies if they're slow moving in the same direction as the other guy.
Ironicly the problem I run into party now is they can't get past his Enrage when he has between 5-15% HP left. Besides that the fights pretty bread and butter
For the love of all that's holy, please put healers in the middle for enums for healing coverage
Just completed this extreme raid this morning.
The phrase 3 flares you showed was helpful to get through without running like a headless chicken!
Question though: is it necessary to use LB before enrage/phase 4?
Okay so I see RMMR or MMRR in the party finder. This is for meteors right?
I'm surprised this trial is similar to normal mode.
And vice versa. I wasn’t expecting to see a debuff assortment on Big Bang in normal mode.
You think losing the Mount roll with an 80 is bad? Try rolling a 98 and losing it because some lucky bastard got a critical success and popped a 99. Happened to me TWICE while farming Suzaku
I'm not gonna lie, Void Meteor is one of the sloppiest mechanics they've made in a long time. It's so touchy and unintuitive.
Ikr, so annoying
Hated it SO. MUCH.
Half times it's possible; half times it's not.
These Void Meteor and Black Hole strats are not great. The left paint diagram show one person on the right way too close to a comet and ignoring a very easy way to get further away, the two on the left are not positioned correctly to let the second set survive. There's at least two proximity kills on that diagram. The black hole strat is awful too, it's simple to just drop it in the corner of the northern safe spot and everybody runs away alongside the laser
He mentions that
I've done these pattern these exact ways and every time it works perfectly fine.
And that Black Hole strat has MURDERED so many PF groups cause people pay literally no attention to the Black Hole in the corner lol
This extreme is new. Many players will die to this even though its not a hard extreme
@@Mrhappy1227 Is there footage of that? Because the only pattern on your diagrams that your video shows resolve successfully is the right hand one, but you've got plenty of clips of mishaps going on whenever the left hand pattern shows up (and that's not even all of the patterns that can appear; I've got my own footage to show if necassary)
@@Mrhappy1227i like how your own trash video show cases you being wrong. No wonder in every single ultimate discord people are clowning on this garbage
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Worth mentioning that the players Void Meteor targets *isn't* random. It's always either supports first, or DPS first. You can use this to your advantage to preposition better.
I can already say that is wrong as when first progging this with some friends MT got tethered to the first drop and OT got tethered to second drop.
@@Pyro_Salamander Someone in your party was either dead, or raising too late to get the appropriate buff. 1st set must pick 4 people assuming you have 4 people alive, so if a role is missing a member it will take from the opposite role. The 2nd set will pick whoever is remaining or hasn't been assigned.
Dude makes a 22 min guide on this lol
This is easier than golbez ex
Just watching this even though i already cleared lol
Happy- "Macrocosmos does not work"
Me- NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Me after trying anyways- 😃
It works right? i didnt go into the fight yet but want to know :>
@@3l1133 it works. Tested it a couple hours ago. Happy's group's astro is probably just bad at timing.
@@VioletShinobi okiy thank you thank youu!
@@VioletShinobihow can you be bad at timing an ability with a FIFTEEN second grace period?
I swear to god some people in Zeromus EX farm parties are just straight up griefing with meteor and forked lightning memes, fuck meteors in particular for being an instawipe
black hole in corner is PUG. please fix as people watch ur guide
Void meteor is such a bad design, unless all party member learn all the patterns. Which PF doesn't care. It feels like you will be randomly getting pass the mech and clear or restart.
Sounds like skill issue to me. How is it literally any different from any of the plethora of mechanics that are hard mechanic-> body check?
Also, as mentioned you can even cheese it by having your worst player die and not even get a mark.
@@amethonys2798 first off, i did not mention that it was difficult. it is problematic in pf where people don't bother to remember the pattern.
I killed the boss 12 times now. people still don't get the pattern properly and the Cheese you mention, it is the norm, not cheese if you cannot strech it just don't let it be red.
Sometime you die sometime others. it randomly sac people.that's exactly the bad design part.
No its a good mechanic people who dis like it or mess it up are just brainlets
@Gegarace there is nothing random about it lmao. You should never have to sack if its done right. The fact that you can to not wipe is actually great desgin as it throws some level of personal responsibility on top of the wider group responsibility. Sorry this one mech isnt fully brain dead like 99% of exes are
This feels like how normal trials were back in the day. Too easy.
lol cant even find a single group for this crap since everyone marks it as duty complete or 650ilvl only.
found ONE party after searching for 3 hours. . . and we got to enrage after 4 - 5 tries using this video of yours with us having 640ilvl. but people left after because it was late at night.
thought i left wow to avoid this kinda of crap xD but i guess all the WoW players started coming here too.
Honestly sounds like some really unfortunate luck, I put up a party as I started watching this and was filled by the start of the phase 4 explanation, and this is on OCE, the dead data center, said group also cleared in a single lockout, fun fight
i ended up getting asked by some rando, and we ended up doing it in 5 attempts, i only died 1 time out of those 5 runs xD
the fight was REALLY well made and really really fun to do, it wasnt annoying or anything. Golbes was cool AF too but that last Gale was so annoying lol.@@kurosakikun96
So... make your own group?
So THIS is why pf is so garbage for this fight. Thank you for ruining what could of been a fun fight by rushing out a bad video
I'm....REALLY disappointed by the damage coming out of this fight. This is kind of weak.