I was at a wedding recently where the DJ was using the Bose array. I’ve never heard such a beautiful distribution of audio in a room that didn’t have a system custom designed for it. No matter where you were in the room the audio levels stayed the same. Im not even DJ and I want to buy one.
I noticed that 90% of my DJ events were small at 100 or less people. So I got a portable array system. I really like how portable it is and so easy to setup. I often add a 15 inch sub to the setup because I play lots of dance music and the sub gives it a nice thump. With the sub I am sure that I can do events up to 150. So to me the portable array system is great for weddings and birthdays.
What would you guesstimate the limits of your 2 Line Array system are? I'm talking about venue/audience size. Our max is likely to be 200 people at an outside bar on a beach. @@13bcoffee
Well explained without bias. It all depends on the application. Personally unless it’s some rave I find thumping bass distracting and overwhelming sonically. Line array is my way!
Thank you. We have the StagePas 1kMkII and we're about to go touring bars and small clubs (incl beach bars). We are a duo with backing tracks. Now we're worried that we won't be able to fill the space with a single StagePas so we're buying a second to go stereo.and fill more space. But before we buy another unit, I was considering now swapping to a Point Source solution. It would be good to get a feel though for where the limits of a 2 x StagePas 1kMkII set-up is as there's a lot of benefit in just travelling with 2 of these units and not the whole PA set-up we used to use when we were in a band 🤔
Hi there AMS, I am planning to buy a 2 LD Maui 28 G3 for home personal use, do you thing that’s to much power? My room size is just 15X25 feet. I love the specs on that speaker. Please let me know.
Personally I'd like to stick to traditional point source speakers, mainly in consideration of versatility. Point source speakers can be tripod-mount, pole-mount, stacked, flown, used stand-alone or in clusters/arrays, as main PA, front fills, delayed fills, stage wedges, side monitors, surrounds... However, column speakers can only be used as main PA for small-to-medium-scale events. They're neither scalable nor expandable.
I use two JBL Eon One Line Array on open wide large venue and it gives me a lot of sound specially on the spot where people wanted to dance or just hear the quality of sound. Having a Two Point Source speaker are weird to hear when it comes to sound waves and phase mostly if people are walking and moving around the venue.. Plus we wanted the sound quality to go anywhere on the area, so having two Point source speakers are totally nonsense when it comes to this kind of operations.. They are just good for throwing High from a far, this is good if you have four or more point source speakers so that the quality of sound is loud and clear over a distance area but on the aid of Subwoofers so the sound quality is still balanced and we all know that will happen only on large concerts..
Thank you for this clear explanation. But could you define small, mid and large rooms? Or in short, till what size of room and What number of people in the audience you would still recommend a column system (for a Blues Rock Band)?
I have both types of systems. The portable line array is good for a crowd of up to 100 people which would be the typical wedding or a birthday party. You can also add a subwoofer and get to 150 people or use the sub to enhance dance music. You get up to around 200 people or a midsize event, I would use a point source system. Perhaps this event would be a high school dance or a band in large bar with 200 plus people.
Line Arrays don't have the throw or the midrange, set up 1 each at the back of a room at the same volume Then go down the other end of the room with an AB switch and you'll see the line erray are not as good as normal good powered speakers It's technically impossible for those little speakers no matter how good they are to have the same throw as a 10 or a 12 inch..point of source
Each driver alone might not have the same throw no, but since there are _many_ of them they will combined have quite a large surface area and will do just fine. Also concidering they are a line array they will actually have a longer trow than a point source since they will only drop 3dB instead of 6dB each doubling of the distance (a bit depending on the particular frequency and length of the line of course).
@@gurratell7326 This is the same concept when you're doing festival sound. They use columns upon columns to push the sound out further than some sort of giant traditional cab. Subs are placed together for this same purpose.
The line array will have better throw and better horizontal coverage if setup correctly. The portable one's don't have the spl of the larger ones therefore you would need more columns. I bet 4 EV Evolve 50's setup two per side will throw as good as the typical point source. But system would be more expensive and bulky.
Point source all day, the portables are cute but until the come out with a portable system that can keep up with my point source system i will stay put.
Forget the high tech like line array and bluetooth. All the money goes into tech. go back to big , heavy speakers to give you the thumping bass you need. line arrays are a waste of money.
@@JV-nl7lh I guess this is true if you ignore the 70 + years of science behind line array systems and the fact that thumping bass usually equates to otherwise shitty sound
Just went the other day to hear a group play through 2 powered column speakers, they also had a roland e kit hooked up, it freaking sucked balls. The drum sounded thin the bass was over powering and the vocals were bright. If you are an acoustic player with a singer, and the room is smaller, im sure it would be fine, but I would no way use it past that limitation. For the money, 2 powered speakers with an decent mixer is a much better choice, in my opinion, now one last thing maybe a DJ can use these because they do not have to mix sound, but overall not for me.
I was at a wedding recently where the DJ was using the Bose array. I’ve never heard such a beautiful distribution of audio in a room that didn’t have a system custom designed for it. No matter where you were in the room the audio levels stayed the same. Im not even DJ and I want to buy one.
I went through multiple reviews of Bose L1 Pro 32 and bought 2 of it. It's sound quality is really good.
@@RadhaRanjanMadhavhow are you finding them after months? I’m torn between the Bose L1 Pro 16 and Maui 28 G3
I noticed that 90% of my DJ events were small at 100 or less people. So I got a portable array system. I really like how portable it is and so easy to setup. I often add a 15 inch sub to the setup because I play lots of dance music and the sub gives it a nice thump. With the sub I am sure that I can do events up to 150.
So to me the portable array system is great for weddings and birthdays.
How many do you use? 1 or 2?
I mostly use just one. But if its a really loud hip hop or house music event two works great.
What would you guesstimate the limits of your 2 Line Array system are? I'm talking about venue/audience size. Our max is likely to be 200 people at an outside bar on a beach. @@13bcoffee
I'll keep the point source traditional active speakers. Best band per buck imo.
Well explained without bias. It all depends on the application. Personally unless it’s some rave I find thumping bass distracting and overwhelming sonically. Line array is my way!
Bose L1Pro32 is a great line array system. Purchased 2 of it.
Thank you for for the great explanation. I have one question, what you mean by small and medium size room?
Thank you. We have the StagePas 1kMkII and we're about to go touring bars and small clubs (incl beach bars). We are a duo with backing tracks.
Now we're worried that we won't be able to fill the space with a single StagePas so we're buying a second to go stereo.and fill more space.
But before we buy another unit, I was considering now swapping to a Point Source solution.
It would be good to get a feel though for where the limits of a 2 x StagePas 1kMkII set-up is as there's a lot of benefit in just travelling with 2 of these units and not the whole PA set-up we used to use when we were in a band 🤔
It's column array not line array. Line array have true compression drivers.
Hi there AMS, I am planning to buy a 2 LD Maui 28 G3 for home personal use, do you thing that’s to much power? My room size is just 15X25 feet. I love the specs on that speaker. Please let me know.
Personally I'd like to stick to traditional point source speakers, mainly in consideration of versatility. Point source speakers can be tripod-mount, pole-mount, stacked, flown, used stand-alone or in clusters/arrays, as main PA, front fills, delayed fills, stage wedges, side monitors, surrounds... However, column speakers can only be used as main PA for small-to-medium-scale events. They're neither scalable nor expandable.
@AMS Very nice presentation of the topic. Your communication skill is good.
What’s a small / medium room ?
I use two JBL Eon One Line Array on open wide large venue and it gives me a lot of sound specially on the spot where people wanted to dance or just hear the quality of sound. Having a Two Point Source speaker are weird to hear when it comes to sound waves and phase mostly if people are walking and moving around the venue.. Plus we wanted the sound quality to go anywhere on the area, so having two Point source speakers are totally nonsense when it comes to this kind of operations.. They are just good for throwing High from a far, this is good if you have four or more point source speakers so that the quality of sound is loud and clear over a distance area but on the aid of Subwoofers so the sound quality is still balanced and we all know that will happen only on large concerts..
Informative with no fluff..! (y)
Thank you for this clear explanation. But could you define small, mid and large rooms? Or in short, till what size of room and
What number of people in the audience you would still recommend a column system (for a Blues Rock Band)?
I have both types of systems. The portable line array is good for a crowd of up to 100 people which would be the typical wedding or a birthday party. You can also add a subwoofer and get to 150 people or use the sub to enhance dance music.
You get up to around 200 people or a midsize event, I would use a point source system. Perhaps this event would be a high school dance or a band in large bar with 200 plus people.
Buy the Peavey LN1063
So informative.
Thank you
Isnt that column array
Great thanks
Well said
Line Arrays don't have the throw or the midrange, set up 1 each at the back of a room at the same volume
Then go down the other end of the room with an AB switch and you'll see the line erray are not as good as normal good powered speakers
It's technically impossible for those little speakers no matter how good they are to have the same throw as a 10 or a 12 inch..point of source
Each driver alone might not have the same throw no, but since there are _many_ of them they will combined have quite a large surface area and will do just fine. Also concidering they are a line array they will actually have a longer trow than a point source since they will only drop 3dB instead of 6dB each doubling of the distance (a bit depending on the particular frequency and length of the line of course).
@@gurratell7326 This is the same concept when you're doing festival sound. They use columns upon columns to push the sound out further than some sort of giant traditional cab. Subs are placed together for this same purpose.
The line array will have better throw and better horizontal coverage if setup correctly. The portable one's don't have the spl of the larger ones therefore you would need more columns. I bet 4 EV Evolve 50's setup two per side will throw as good as the typical point source. But system would be more expensive and bulky.
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Point source all day, the portables are cute but until the come out with a portable system that can keep up with my point source system i will stay put.
If any chance in telugu sir
I have a pair of RCF Evox J8, how many person party can I use these for 100, 150, 200 guest?
200 at peak, indoors
100 at peak, outdoors
I have the J8's. I use them for crowds of 100 or less. 150 or less with a sub. At 200 people I switch to a point source system.
Forget the high tech like line array and bluetooth. All the money goes into tech. go back to big , heavy speakers to give you the thumping bass you need. line arrays are a waste of money.
Line Arrays are basically your home entertainment system stood up on end.
@@JV-nl7lh I guess this is true if you ignore the 70 + years of science behind line array systems and the fact that thumping bass usually equates to otherwise shitty sound
Not true. These array systems will thump! They also don’t have annoying hot spots in nearfield.
Just went the other day to hear a group play through 2 powered column speakers, they also had a roland e kit hooked up, it freaking sucked balls. The drum sounded thin the bass was over powering and the vocals were bright. If you are an acoustic player with a singer, and the room is smaller, im sure it would be fine, but I would no way use it past that limitation. For the money, 2 powered speakers with an decent mixer is a much better choice, in my opinion, now one last thing maybe a DJ can use these because they do not have to mix sound, but overall not for me.