@@OmarOswell as big fan of Warcraft 2, Ive played through the original game so many times its hars to feel excited about this. Im gonna just skip this and play the fanmod remake in WC3 Reforged instead, the same guys who are also remaking original Warcraft campaign and even adding prequel story of Horde's birth based on the lore/novel Rise of the Horde. They are adding so much to the campaign and story so thats what Im actually excited to experience. This remaster might be good for purists or those who never played original WC2 to begin with
Warcraft series deserves the Age of Empires (+ age of mythology) remaster treatment. Such a shame, they both in the end belong to Microsoft but only one gets special treatment 😢
There is certainly a big difference in the cinematics at least be honest. They removed all the dithering and macro blocking, and smoothed out the look. The new in game art style though is appalling.
@@JFinns The gameplay wise, it looks just brightened colors and higher resolution image. In introduction and victory/defeat had been drastically different. I doubt many players would tell the difference other than what I had mentioned.
No, it's not worth any money unfortunately :( Widescreen is there, but no custom hotkeys, no improvements to anything (same old pathfinding, option to select only one building, no unit recruitment queue, no rally points etc.) They only improved group selections up to 12 units (copy-pasted code from Starcraft 1 I guess). They also upscaled the graphics but that one dude that was doing that messed up with sprites. For example: death knight has wrong animation frame in the idle animation. Even I could fix that and I'm not a 2D artist. It's very bad. I love War2 I wish to love that remaster but that's only a half baked crap.
Warcraft 1 doesn't even have online MP. These were literally minimum effort remasters.. I refuse to give blizz money on principal in any case. D2R was the last game I bought from them.
One of the only good remasters IMO Most remasters just make the game look uglier but at a higher resolution And even with D2R I still have to admit that I like the classic look and sounds more but only after fixing the framerate and aspect ratio. But it at least still looks very good and very different than the original.
AoE 1 and 2 really went above and beyond with their remasters huh? At least WC2R isn't flat out awful this time, kinda lame and barely adequate though.
Those were not remasters but remakes (AoE II HD was a remaster but that since has been replaced by DE). I wish they would make the same things to Warcraft I and II but I guess that requires way more resources which I doubt they will do that. :(
To be honest, I like old-upscaled UserPatch AoE 2 graphics better than Definitive Edition graphics, so I would say WC3 Refunded did one thing better, namely allowing players choice between new and old graphics. Unfortunately, it's hard to do for AoE since it's constantly being extended with new civs, which sometimes have completely new building sets and a few unique uints, all of which would have to be done twice by the designing team.
Yeah, I hate to be that guy but, I almost prefer the original to the remaster. The og looked dirtier, and gritty, which made it feel like it fit in. For example, at 1:09 the footman on the wall, his armor in the RM looks shiny, like he just polished it. Yeah the og is more pixilated but idk. At 0:39, you can see the torch flicker on the guys armor and in the rafters as he is loading the cannon, but that is lost in the RM and the light is just flat. It's like they removed all of the shadows. The fonts looks so much better and thematic in the OG also. 1:25, red font, not neat or tidy, looks like something an orc could write if they knew common. 1:26, all the charm is gone and it looks like wordart from PowerPoint. 1:33 the mission text is the same way, looking thematically appropriate before transitioning to bland text at 1:38. I will say I do like the BG art at 1:38 by Metzen in the RM. The gameplay UI, I will give it up to the RM in spots. They got rid of the border to allow for more of the game to peak through which is a bonus, and they cleaned up the buttons and made it more updated with the hotkeys over the buttons. Good QOL stuff there. IDK, I'm trying to not let nostalgia guide my impressions too much, because what's the point of a RM if it looks exactly the same, but at the same time, Blizzard is known for their art and cinematics, so I hold them to high standard.
Awful remaster, Blizzard just can't themselves from tainting their RTS legacy. This up-scaling actually removes details, probably because it's done by an AI. Like the patches on Orc buildings and the water looks so bad. The cinematics don't look better either, might as well have left them alone.
Definitely had to be a remaster, look at sc1 remaster you can actually zoom in. This was blizzard giving the bare minimum effort. I doubt they will ever fix this, look how long they took to fix WC3 reforged and they have a bigger fanbase.
@remarkablehairdo3110 If a human made such obvious errors, then they are a terrible artist. Most of the textures don't even tile properly. It's a disgrace.
Good remaster, pretty respectful with the original. Would be nice to have autocast and production queue as optionals. I like the campaign maps much more in the new version
The remaster looks like a flash game from, 98. The light areas are super bright and smooth and the dark areas are very dark and and unreadable.. The contrast just hurts my eyes
There's going to be some AI usage here, just like other remastered like the Starcraft or C&C, the question is how much was AI-upscaling involved? The cinematics are definitely going to be AI-upscaled. They're usually just videos, unless they have access to the actual files that were used to make the CG cinematics. Unit sprites seems to be hand-drawn, though having those black-outlines on the units gives it an even more cartoony look, to the point that some people are saying it now looks like a flash game. Personally they look okay to me. Some of the environment art seems to be by hand as well. I wonder if they got lemonsky studios to do the art? They're the same ones who did the art for Starcraft Remastered and C&C remastered. The unit-art on the menus seems to have been upscaled though. As fine as those are, did they have at least some QoL stuff added? EDIT: So after giving the game a try, I don't like the new art-style. Its TOO cartoonish. those black outlines on everything isn't doing any favors too. Stick to the old graphics, even if they forgot to account for aspect ratio which results in the sprites being widened.
AI upscaling is very apparent on the victory/defeat screens, so there was a fair share of that. You are absolutely correct about the blackline style changes. Thankfully there's a working normal multiplayer. And gog version has LAN. So it's the best of both worlds
The thing is, AI upscaling can work, but you have to know how to use it and can't just use it to smooth things out. I can use my limited knowledge to make an old WC2 screenshot look higher resolution but preserve the same style. AI is a tool that should be leveraged, not a replacement for actual artistic effort.
2:37 Look at the seal... The new Style really isn't good for the game. Original the PNGs blend in with the Game world... now with black borders around them you can't unsee that it is just a bunch of PNGs moving around the world.
Оригиналу даже и не нужен ремастер, он и так хорошо выглядит из-за мультяшной пиксельной графики, которая ни разу не устарела (Как и со вторыми Героями)
Extremely sad to see such a masterpiece becoming a mid 2000 flash game. Please Blizzard/microsoft, wake up and give us warcraft 2 definitive edition with a bonus extension it would be a dream.
Not sure who this remake truly is for. As someone who grew up playing the game, I see 0 reason to go back to it, because there are no worthwhile changes. Had they provided an option to replace some assets by variations that fit the current Lore, like having the icons for characters like Khadgar fit their current WoW design better, that could've been fun. They could've provided an option to replace the cinematics by something more modern and cooler looking (even 2.5D animatics like the ones we occasionally get in WoW, like the Legacy videos from Dragonflight or the Threads of Fate video from The War Within, I'd be up for that). I'd cream myself if I could see an official animated and modern interpretation of Khadgar blasting the first Dark portal, with Tony Amendola voicing him. Imagine seeing new artworks/animatics as mission rewards showing things like the death of Anduin Lothar and Turalyon picking up his broken sword. Imagine the game having new tileset to represent more faithfully some zones or landmarks of Azeroth. Imagine briefings having had new art showing actual heroes of Warcraft arguing/strategizing together, kinda briefings in Starcraft 1. There's a thousand things Blizzard could've done to make this cooler, and I would pay for those.
Frustrating. If you take pixel art designs and upscale them to smooth sprites, you are not improving the art, you are destroying it... The original designs were made to work in pixel art, not high res images.. Adding high res sprites into a context that still uses very few animation frames and generally looks and plays like a 90s game, makes the entire thing look like a cheap modern game instead of a classic old game.
I've been trying to put words to why I don't like the new graphics. The pixelated graphics lets your brain fill in details, and makes it look grittier and grimier. I think that ends up being the issue, it looks way too clean. Everything has an odd distinction between them, like the blood is laying on them, rather than coming out of them. The boats has torn sails with details, in the remaster, it's just holes. I think that's the end result of a slight change in art direction as well, with the more cell shaded graphics that gives it a mobile look.
I was hoping for proper rework on gameplay currently the gameplay is clunky with bad pathfinding. The new graphics aren't really bad , the 12 units is an improvement pretty good so far the Work on UI seems better. Still I hoped for more especially in gameplay department I don't think its worth 15 dollars more like 5.99 or 4,99 lets hope they update the game more this looks like it was made hastily.
Honestly I was really dissapointed. I never played W1 and W2 so I was excited I can play them with better graphics but this is almost no improvement at all. Why not remake it like W3?
The cinematics are pretty crap in both cases, but the new ones seem to have been made slightly worse with the darkening and the weird textures. As to the gameplay, it's nice that they support modern resolutions and all but the graphics themselves look like they were hastily put through some shitty upscaler AI. My favorite game of all time looks like cheap mobile shovelware now.
Is the AI smarter? I remember the AI being really dumb... Getting stuck on trees in a "U" shape with poor pathing, plugging up the town hall with army units so the gold miners get stuck and cant drop off gold, etc....
i feel like i'm the only person on the planet that doesn't think the sprites themselves look AI upscaled for the most part, but holy shit the FMV upscales look... bad. just for the record, this is NOT me saying the remaster looks better than the original, hell no. it doesn't look TERRIBLE but you're still better off playing the original game in wargus or something. same for WC1 on that note.
Im so confused, it looks exactly like I played it back in my childhood, actually wait, it looks exactly like I was playing it a year ago. 30 bucks? fuck me blizzard, you could make it good. heartbreaking moment just like after w3 refunded...
Is it just me or does it look and feel like the units are floating in the remastered. Where as in the original it feels like they are standing firmly on the ground.
The entire thing wasn't made to have these high res sprites... YOu can't just change one thing about a game that is based in a certain historical context and expect it to look good... It just looks weird and cheap.
@@MaMastoast Agreed, especially for 2D games. All that interpolation makes everything look uncanny and overly concrete. It takes a lot of skill to re-imagine a low-rez environment in a way that doesn't look like a Flash/mobile game.
Vous avez pas honte de faire ça? Les pixels à peine lissé et vous vendez ça 30€ ? C'est vrai que blizzard Activision c'est une petite entreprise indé sans moyens.
must say, and i still play the original once in a while, the original are better compared to the look of the remaster, it is like the smothing out in the graphic department are robbing the game of its charm and visual feel. the remaster looks so plastic like and souless. i prefer the grittyness compared to the modern graphic they brushed on
Если это сделал одинокий бедный студент - честь и хвала ему , здоровья , счастья и надо как нибудь помочь ему с деньгами. Если это сделала миллиардная компания Близзард, то будь они прокляты сволочи , пусть подавятся своими деньгами а "ремастер" этот засунут себе в одно место. Age of empires действительно порадовала людей своей обновленной графикой ! Warcraft remaster похоже работа нейросети(( Очень плохой нейросети((
Yeeaahhh you can't just smooth out sprites that were originally designed for CRT's. It's a bit more effort, but for old games like this you'd have to specifically design a bit of grit or something back into the HD sprites somehow. If you just upscale them with AI or whatever they did here, they just end up looking smooth and funnily enough, kind of worse than the original.
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Honestly, I cannot notice any change in the cinematics besides a little darker color saturation.
Its because it's clearly just a filter/upscale
the compression is gone they are the same fmvs though
@@MrSnaetch i noticed less number of ships on the first cinematic.
You need glasses.
Orc ships are disappeared.
looks like a cheap AI upscaled effort
It'd free on fitgirl repack
This is what remasters are about...
This is what was expected and this is all I wanted!
@@OmarOswell as big fan of Warcraft 2, Ive played through the original game so many times its hars to feel excited about this. Im gonna just skip this and play the fanmod remake in WC3 Reforged instead, the same guys who are also remaking original Warcraft campaign and even adding prequel story of Horde's birth based on the lore/novel Rise of the Horde.
They are adding so much to the campaign and story so thats what Im actually excited to experience. This remaster might be good for purists or those who never played original WC2 to begin with
Warcraft series deserves the Age of Empires (+ age of mythology) remaster treatment. Such a shame, they both in the end belong to Microsoft but only one gets special treatment 😢
Facts!!
Lorecraft and their Chronicles of the Second War project is doing a much better job!
Do you mean the HD edition or the definitive edition
@remarkablehairdo3110 Im talking about definitive, of course, altough HD remaster isnt bad either.
Command & Conquer remastered > Warcraft remastered
Damn they really smoothed the highlights and grain out of everything to give us a bad AI upscaled mobile game.
you are just a hater thats all, AI makes a lot better stuff
It looks fine, but im trying to find if the game supports Superwide or ultra wide but there are 0 info and no support at blizzard :D
@@DubElementMusic a hater of things that are bad, and enjoyer of things that are good, yeah.
What are you? A connoisseur of suck?
@@Lightwish4K don't worry, I'm sure it doesn't.
Remaster my cheesy bell
Cinematic wise I could not even tell the difference, in gameplay though u can see its a remaster but deffo not up to the expectations
It's just how I expected, but the fact the game could run exceeds my expectation
personally I thought the remaster had slightly darker shade for the cinematics
There is certainly a big difference in the cinematics at least be honest. They removed all the dithering and macro blocking, and smoothed out the look. The new in game art style though is appalling.
@@JFinns The gameplay wise, it looks just brightened colors and higher resolution image. In introduction and victory/defeat had been drastically different.
I doubt many players would tell the difference other than what I had mentioned.
It looks wildly worse in every way to the original.
The original looks like a masterpiece.
The remaster looks smooth.
As much as I am hyped, but is it really worth it to pay 15€ for this, when you can just play the GoG Version, with Widescreen Mod and Custom Hotkeys?
never lol, its AI "remaster"
No, it's not worth any money unfortunately :( Widescreen is there, but no custom hotkeys, no improvements to anything (same old pathfinding, option to select only one building, no unit recruitment queue, no rally points etc.)
They only improved group selections up to 12 units (copy-pasted code from Starcraft 1 I guess).
They also upscaled the graphics but that one dude that was doing that messed up with sprites. For example: death knight has wrong animation frame in the idle animation. Even I could fix that and I'm not a 2D artist.
It's very bad. I love War2 I wish to love that remaster but that's only a half baked crap.
Warcraft 1 doesn't even have online MP. These were literally minimum effort remasters.. I refuse to give blizz money on principal in any case. D2R was the last game I bought from them.
@@Olagfigh Ok I wait a few days until the revies drop, to see what other people say.
Game is too old for the value, time to sale the seven seas
it looks like my crappy comp could run the remaster
Its a remaster of a 2d game using its original engine so yeah that tracks
@@kayeplaguedoc9054 yeah but requirements make no sense whatsoever
Diablo2 remastered is best remaster ever.
I feel like we're lucky with SC:R and D2:R, cuz seeing how Reforged and now the War1/War2 remasters were done, it easily could've gone very wrong lol.
it's the only one worthy of the title
One of the only good remasters IMO
Most remasters just make the game look uglier but at a higher resolution
And even with D2R I still have to admit that I like the classic look and sounds more but only after fixing the framerate and aspect ratio.
But it at least still looks very good and very different than the original.
Ya. I was just inviting about sc2 and d2.... I mean those were done so well... This just looks thrown together to run on mobile.
Blizzard really has become Sideshow Bob stepping on an endless series of rakes.
Came here expecting to see a gorgeous pixelart. Those graphics looks like flash games from the early 2000.
Oh. Just found out it's AI upscaled. Pass. Anyone else think the original holds up though? The original Blizzard developers were talented af.
1:99 why the fuck are the peasants MOVING whilst chopping? this is HORRIBLE
................you have to move to chop wood. What the f*** kind of question is that?
@@balbarith45 dude, they translate back and forth whilst their legs are stationary, compare the animations with old WC2 ffs
AoE 1 and 2 really went above and beyond with their remasters huh? At least WC2R isn't flat out awful this time, kinda lame and barely adequate though.
Yeah, it is okay, but AoE/M series really paved the way for top tier remasters
Those were not remasters but remakes (AoE II HD was a remaster but that since has been replaced by DE). I wish they would make the same things to Warcraft I and II but I guess that requires way more resources which I doubt they will do that. :(
@@spzhun you are correct
To be honest, I like old-upscaled UserPatch AoE 2 graphics better than Definitive Edition graphics, so I would say WC3 Refunded did one thing better, namely allowing players choice between new and old graphics.
Unfortunately, it's hard to do for AoE since it's constantly being extended with new civs, which sometimes have completely new building sets and a few unique uints, all of which would have to be done twice by the designing team.
True rather than only polish the blur and the pixel they should correct the castle by adding some 3d effect on the brick stone. Look like wooden line.
Did they used AI for the sprites? :o
Sadly yes
They say it's all hand painted but it does kinda look like an AI upscale or something
@@remarkablehairdo3110 on the Warcraft 1 intro looks like they really used ai, Is More obvious on the fire.
Yeah, I hate to be that guy but, I almost prefer the original to the remaster. The og looked dirtier, and gritty, which made it feel like it fit in. For example, at 1:09 the footman on the wall, his armor in the RM looks shiny, like he just polished it. Yeah the og is more pixilated but idk. At 0:39, you can see the torch flicker on the guys armor and in the rafters as he is loading the cannon, but that is lost in the RM and the light is just flat. It's like they removed all of the shadows.
The fonts looks so much better and thematic in the OG also. 1:25, red font, not neat or tidy, looks like something an orc could write if they knew common. 1:26, all the charm is gone and it looks like wordart from PowerPoint. 1:33 the mission text is the same way, looking thematically appropriate before transitioning to bland text at 1:38. I will say I do like the BG art at 1:38 by Metzen in the RM.
The gameplay UI, I will give it up to the RM in spots. They got rid of the border to allow for more of the game to peak through which is a bonus, and they cleaned up the buttons and made it more updated with the hotkeys over the buttons. Good QOL stuff there.
IDK, I'm trying to not let nostalgia guide my impressions too much, because what's the point of a RM if it looks exactly the same, but at the same time, Blizzard is known for their art and cinematics, so I hold them to high standard.
Awful remaster, Blizzard just can't themselves from tainting their RTS legacy. This up-scaling actually removes details, probably because it's done by an AI. Like the patches on Orc buildings and the water looks so bad. The cinematics don't look better either, might as well have left them alone.
Definitely had to be a remaster, look at sc1 remaster you can actually zoom in. This was blizzard giving the bare minimum effort. I doubt they will ever fix this, look how long they took to fix WC3 reforged and they have a bigger fanbase.
It says everything was hand painted
@@remarkablehairdo3110 Yes, but then it must have been filled in with ai or color, it just doesn't look right
@remarkablehairdo3110 If a human made such obvious errors, then they are a terrible artist. Most of the textures don't even tile properly. It's a disgrace.
Good remaster, pretty respectful with the original. Would be nice to have autocast and production queue as optionals. I like the campaign maps much more in the new version
They seriously just ran it through an AI upscaler?
2:28 wtf is this victory image???
Just as atrocious as the victory images from StarCraft remaster
The remaster looks like a flash game from, 98. The light areas are super bright and smooth and the dark areas are very dark and and unreadable.. The contrast just hurts my eyes
This thing is worth about 10 cents. Downloading the original via "alternate means" and inserting graphical mods would lead to the same results.
It lost some personality and charm in the update
That looks like April's fool. Now it can be said "November's fool"!
Why the water in the Remster looks worse than it was in original?! WHAAT? Really? I gues, I will try Remaster, but still prefer the original.
More than a remaster, it's just upscaled on AI...
Laziest remaster ever
But at least they didn't compromise the original material
There's going to be some AI usage here, just like other remastered like the Starcraft or C&C, the question is how much was AI-upscaling involved?
The cinematics are definitely going to be AI-upscaled. They're usually just videos, unless they have access to the actual files that were used to make the CG cinematics.
Unit sprites seems to be hand-drawn, though having those black-outlines on the units gives it an even more cartoony look, to the point that some people are saying it now looks like a flash game. Personally they look okay to me. Some of the environment art seems to be by hand as well. I wonder if they got lemonsky studios to do the art? They're the same ones who did the art for Starcraft Remastered and C&C remastered.
The unit-art on the menus seems to have been upscaled though.
As fine as those are, did they have at least some QoL stuff added?
EDIT: So after giving the game a try, I don't like the new art-style. Its TOO cartoonish. those black outlines on everything isn't doing any favors too. Stick to the old graphics, even if they forgot to account for aspect ratio which results in the sprites being widened.
AI upscaling is very apparent on the victory/defeat screens, so there was a fair share of that. You are absolutely correct about the blackline style changes. Thankfully there's a working normal multiplayer. And gog version has LAN. So it's the best of both worlds
The thing is, AI upscaling can work, but you have to know how to use it and can't just use it to smooth things out. I can use my limited knowledge to make an old WC2 screenshot look higher resolution but preserve the same style. AI is a tool that should be leveraged, not a replacement for actual artistic effort.
2:37 Look at the seal... The new Style really isn't good for the game.
Original the PNGs blend in with the Game world... now with black borders around them you can't unsee that it is just a bunch of PNGs moving around the world.
Оригинал выглядит в разы лучше ахахха это позор Близзард !!!
Оригиналу даже и не нужен ремастер, он и так хорошо выглядит из-за мультяшной пиксельной графики, которая ни разу не устарела (Как и со вторыми Героями)
Still is, and always will be the greatest RTS of all time.
Extremely sad to see such a masterpiece becoming a mid 2000 flash game. Please Blizzard/microsoft, wake up and give us warcraft 2 definitive edition with a bonus extension it would be a dream.
Warcraft was my first strategy game lol
Ewww... ugly AI upscaling. They've made classic pixel art games look like cheap mobile apps.
jajajaja They have no idea what a remastered is. I can't find any difference. nice video
Love me some warcraft2 😎🤘🏻
Original still the best tho
The remaster actually removed terrain detail, wtf. No wonder why it looks like a mobile game. They need to fix this asap.
removed terrain detail ? What do you mean ? Looking at the video above, I don't see any of that.
@@nicolasnachtergaele683 Look at the water and ice.
@@nicolasnachtergaele683 looks at the ripples in the original for instance
At least they didn't give us the warcraft 3 reforged treatment. Just a simple graphic update and scale adjustment.
I had always hoped a remaster would happen, but I had hoped for a bigger screen area to be visible.
AoE DE franchises and C&C Remastered did a better job in remastering and remaking the graphic than Blizzard. Truly a dogsht moment.
And C&C Remastered wasn't even all THAT great itself at the end of the day. So yeah, how does Blizzard keep managing this?
i was hoping it gets the Starcraft treatment. This is AI upscaled crap.
hahha how do they keep remastering games and making them look worse, special talent
Not sure who this remake truly is for. As someone who grew up playing the game, I see 0 reason to go back to it, because there are no worthwhile changes.
Had they provided an option to replace some assets by variations that fit the current Lore, like having the icons for characters like Khadgar fit their current WoW design better, that could've been fun.
They could've provided an option to replace the cinematics by something more modern and cooler looking (even 2.5D animatics like the ones we occasionally get in WoW, like the Legacy videos from Dragonflight or the Threads of Fate video from The War Within, I'd be up for that). I'd cream myself if I could see an official animated and modern interpretation of Khadgar blasting the first Dark portal, with Tony Amendola voicing him.
Imagine seeing new artworks/animatics as mission rewards showing things like the death of Anduin Lothar and Turalyon picking up his broken sword.
Imagine the game having new tileset to represent more faithfully some zones or landmarks of Azeroth.
Imagine briefings having had new art showing actual heroes of Warcraft arguing/strategizing together, kinda briefings in Starcraft 1.
There's a thousand things Blizzard could've done to make this cooler, and I would pay for those.
I expected more. Warcraft 1 had more effort and work. I think Warcraft 2 Remaster is a very bad work, they could have done better
Yeah and if they did that, you would have had another WC3 reforged on your hands. And nobody wants that.
We want-and need-the LAN option back NOW!"
Horrible!!!! Fans made a better job in custom camp of wc2
it is more re-upscaled version than remaster with some areas of decreased fidelity like "victory" screens.
this feels as it only got patched with some upscaling of resolution, I wish it would get some proper remake instead, it deserves one
The remaster project probably had low priority and an overall low budget allocated to it. It is fine as long as I can play with the original graphics.
They lost a chance to do this with modern grafics.
No they didn't. The adjustment in scale and simple graphic change is all it needed. I don't want another potential WC3 Reforged fail.
Everybody expects something new like residen evil 2-3-4 remake ... In the end... It doesn't even matter 😭
Original feels more alive and has more animations .. kinda bad remaster.
The game is a classic, there’s not even support for older systems, it’s just tailored to the latest windows...
I hope they remaster StarWars Galactic Battlegrounds
honestly i was expecting a reforged style remaster, kinda dissapointed but still cool.
OMG my dream finally came true!!! 😭😭😭😭
This remaster looks 🗑️ too bad cause I’ve been looking for a reason to play the first 2 Warcraft games.
wow they really half arsed it
Boring, this game needed MUCH more work to make it exciting again...
lol its more exciting than most of trash pushed on markets every day
only upscaled videos and sprites, 15 usd for 25 old game. Cnc remastered contain updated graphics and 2 games with full expansion packs
why does it look like a cartoon now
Diversity hires that weren't even fans of the source material. Remakes are cancer.
I am happy with my wc2 bnet edition, thank you.
Warcraft 2 with the graphics of Warcraft 3 reforged, please don't you see that the era has changed and new players want to adapt.
The remastered visuals are just AI upscaled.
They gave engine of w3 remaster and say : hey look its modern game now
Frustrating. If you take pixel art designs and upscale them to smooth sprites, you are not improving the art, you are destroying it... The original designs were made to work in pixel art, not high res images.. Adding high res sprites into a context that still uses very few animation frames and generally looks and plays like a 90s game, makes the entire thing look like a cheap modern game instead of a classic old game.
I've been trying to put words to why I don't like the new graphics. The pixelated graphics lets your brain fill in details, and makes it look grittier and grimier.
I think that ends up being the issue, it looks way too clean.
Everything has an odd distinction between them, like the blood is laying on them, rather than coming out of them. The boats has torn sails with details, in the remaster, it's just holes. I think that's the end result of a slight change in art direction as well, with the more cell shaded graphics that gives it a mobile look.
At least after Reforged i didnt have my hopes up...
Surprising comments. This is a remaster. Not a REMAKE.
It looks uncanny and worse than the original. it merely being a remaster is part of the problem.
Shouldn't remasters look better than the original game?
If you wanna replay these games just play warcraft 1&2 in 3
I was hoping for proper rework on gameplay currently the gameplay is clunky with bad pathfinding.
The new graphics aren't really bad , the 12 units is an improvement pretty good so far the Work on UI seems better.
Still I hoped for more especially in gameplay department I don't think its worth 15 dollars more like 5.99 or 4,99 lets hope they update the game more this looks like it was made hastily.
The "remaster" is like a cheap ftp mobile game that looks way too clean
Gameplay = the remastered. Video and menü screens the original.
There is barely any difference! I'd rather stick with W3 reforged fan remake campaign for W2.
Will you do the same thing for Warcraft 1 remastered?
they did too. same shit just AI upscale.
The Warcraft 1 remaster is even worse in my opinion, albeit with modernized controls.
They managed to make warcaft 3 with better graphics and then they just upscale the pixels for wc1 and 2... Don't expect my money on this....
can you select more than 9 units?
yes, 12. Their trainee was able to copy-paste that code from Starcraft 1
@@Olagfigh killer
Is it just me or does it look exactly the same?
This is a pretty minor nitpick but something about the outlines in the remaster just push the cartoony aesthetic too far imo.
Another good example that Blizzard has lost its touch
Honestly I was really dissapointed. I never played W1 and W2 so I was excited I can play them with better graphics but this is almost no improvement at all. Why not remake it like W3?
The cinematics are pretty crap in both cases, but the new ones seem to have been made slightly worse with the darkening and the weird textures. As to the gameplay, it's nice that they support modern resolutions and all but the graphics themselves look like they were hastily put through some shitty upscaler AI. My favorite game of all time looks like cheap mobile shovelware now.
demaster
Is the AI smarter? I remember the AI being really dumb... Getting stuck on trees in a "U" shape with poor pathing, plugging up the town hall with army units so the gold miners get stuck and cant drop off gold, etc....
i feel like i'm the only person on the planet that doesn't think the sprites themselves look AI upscaled for the most part, but holy shit the FMV upscales look... bad.
just for the record, this is NOT me saying the remaster looks better than the original, hell no. it doesn't look TERRIBLE but you're still better off playing the original game in wargus or something. same for WC1 on that note.
Interesting there's less orc ships in the remaster.
Im so confused, it looks exactly like I played it back in my childhood, actually wait, it looks exactly like I was playing it a year ago. 30 bucks? fuck me blizzard, you could make it good. heartbreaking moment just like after w3 refunded...
Is it just me or does it look and feel like the units are floating in the remastered. Where as in the original it feels like they are standing firmly on the ground.
The entire thing wasn't made to have these high res sprites... YOu can't just change one thing about a game that is based in a certain historical context and expect it to look good... It just looks weird and cheap.
@@MaMastoast Agreed, especially for 2D games. All that interpolation makes everything look uncanny and overly concrete. It takes a lot of skill to re-imagine a low-rez environment in a way that doesn't look like a Flash/mobile game.
This do not deserve the term of "remaster"
tell me this is a joke
Warcraft II: Miniclip Edition
My childhood
Vous avez pas honte de faire ça? Les pixels à peine lissé et vous vendez ça 30€ ? C'est vrai que blizzard Activision c'est une petite entreprise indé sans moyens.
must say, and i still play the original once in a while, the original are better compared to the look of the remaster, it is like the smothing out in the graphic department are robbing the game of its charm and visual feel.
the remaster looks so plastic like and souless.
i prefer the grittyness compared to the modern graphic they brushed on
Если это сделал одинокий бедный студент - честь и хвала ему , здоровья , счастья и надо как нибудь помочь ему с деньгами. Если это сделала миллиардная компания Близзард, то будь они прокляты сволочи , пусть подавятся своими деньгами а "ремастер" этот засунут себе в одно место. Age of empires действительно порадовала людей своей обновленной графикой ! Warcraft remaster похоже работа нейросети(( Очень плохой нейросети((
Glittering prizes
Make it so
Hatchet
Which one is which?
Yeeaahhh you can't just smooth out sprites that were originally designed for CRT's. It's a bit more effort, but for old games like this you'd have to specifically design a bit of grit or something back into the HD sprites somehow.
If you just upscale them with AI or whatever they did here, they just end up looking smooth and funnily enough, kind of worse than the original.
Look how they vertocised my rasterised baby.
To anyone interested in playing this THERE ARE REMAKES IN THE FORM OF CUSTOM CAMPAIGNS FOR WARCRAFT 3. Much much better to play WC1&2 that way