They said they didn't take Mary to the Dr. because of their strong beliefs. First thing Seth did when they arrested him? Demanded they let him see a Dr. I hope neither of them ever gets out.
And that was a load of horse hockey. They had dealt with CPS before with their oldest child. They didn't want to give their kids medical attention because CPS would be on their butts again.
Also the dad seemed to be more worried about not giving into big pharma than he was about the health of those poor kids. Fn ridiculous when idiots like this take their theories out on their children.
My mother suffered from domestic abuse and violence, but she would NEVER starve us, even for a few hours, or one day. She'd be killed by my father first, before she would allow that to happen. These two only seem upset for themselves. They show no regret or empathy for the suffering they've caused. They were utterly shocked when they were initially charged, as they had behaved like it was no big deal, to that point. I literally think they believed they weren't guilty of anything. That subjecting your baby to that level of abuse, and suffering was just normal.
Plus he said later in the 911 call that he was referring to his parents when he said he called his lawyer and they were the ones who told him to wait till they got there before calling.
a 10 month old baby starves to death in her own home under the supervision and “care” of both parents.. and neither parents think they should be held responsible for what happened to her. disgusting. she defended her husband’s treatment of her babies until she needed to come up with a defense. parents lose their children due to circumstances outside of their control, and still struggle with survivor’s guilt, thinking if only they’d done something different, their baby would still be here.. the way she’s trying to deny her own murdered daughter of justice, just to save her own skin tells me all i need to know. i saw the interrogation footage and the two even insisted they should just “forget” about the baby, and go back home to continue raising their other 3 babies as though nothing happened. when they told her how small her baby was, she got quite upset that they would “try to make her feel bad,” by presenting her that information. they didn’t seem to think the murder of their precious baby was even WORTH investigating, treating her murder investigation as though it’s a nuisance. i’m so glad those other children were eventually saved from such a gruesome, painful life. thank god those parents got what they deserved, and can never harm another helpless baby again. rest in peace, mary welsch. you deserved a life, and a family who loved you.
They reacted to the charges as if they were expecting a slap on the wrist. I saw their interrogation tapes and Seth especially acted as if it was no big deal that their baby died. Society won't have to worry about these two anymore.
Seth was either deluded or thought he'd get away with it, a child doesn't starve to death overnight.....child abusers are lowest in food chain in prison, doubt he'll make many friends
Or....run..run for the hills. I live in the UK...l dont know anyone who believes in god. It's outdated here, most churches and chapels are curry houses or night clubs now.
Absolutely blame the hubby. He was abusive and allowed the death of his child through extreme neglect and indifference. But also blame the mother. She played a part. But have a little compassion for mother due to her also being a victim. I think her sentence should have been lighter than the husband’s sentence.
Same..My daughter was chunky lil cherub 16lbs at 3mon..What parent thinks a baby sleepung 16-19 hrs is normal🤬🤬..gtfo poor Mary was to weak to cry. RIP Mary🙏
The attorney for Tatiana is disgusting, trying to invoke rape into the fact she neglected her child. That is a slap in the face to all those rape survivors, that spent dark hours dealing with the aftermath of what was perpetrated on them, that managed to find the strength to be present in their lives again. Disgusting words trying to substantiate disgusting actions by a so called mother!
@jasperchance3382 she's guilty. Just because she grasped at straws and turned against him after doesn't make her any less guilty. If her story was believable thr jury wouldn't have found her guilty.
@@jasperchance3382Under a spell…aw give me a break! She didn’t go along with helping him rob a store…..she starved her own baby to death and let her die in agony😢 Please save any sympathy for the defenceless child who deserves it. At the very least the “mother” should have had her tubes tied long ago to make sure she couldn’t bring another child into the world just to suffer neglect,live in filth and then die before she’d even made it to her first birthday I’ve just never understood how it is that people can hear or watch the same awful story and then not have a similar reaction to the majority of us which is heartbreak for the baby but also anger towards the monsters who done this or at the very least allowed it to happen. Maybe you’re a better person than me but I genuinely thought through every scenario and still couldn’t imagine any where I’d allow this to happen to one of my children.
I wonder if it’s ok to get lawyers/liars , to represent him in jail? I mean, if he’s so righteous, then he shouldn’t need anyone to handle his fate. God will do it. Or maybe he can eat some fruit and veggies from his farm and when he wakes up, his problems will be gone .
As someone who has been a victim, I would never use that as a reason to not take accountability for my actions. I think a more likely reaction of an abuse victim is to believe they deserve to be punished.
@@sallyyexley9627 i’m glad you managed to find a way out that situation. It’s certainly easier when you have someone else to fight for. But its important to fight for yourself
Damn she really clinged on to anything that might get her a lighter sentence, lets hope she has a great time in prison when inmates find out there charges.
Let's not pretend the jury and judge did not notice he was a FASF🙄🤯🤣 . I WOULD HAVE GAVE HIM A YEAR FOR EVERY CHICKEN WHEN HE ATE WHILE STARVING HIS BEAUTIFUL BABY
I left my ex-husband multiple times but he had alienated me from my family so I had no where to go. My own sister told me to leave. The justice system failed me so many time but my ex-husband learned "you better just go ahead and kill me." He will be eligible for parole when he is 96 years old.
Any person knows the difference in slow growing vs malnutrition. There is so much access to information and help...its a CHOICE to allow a baby to suffer, and one she made.
OMG she weighed only 8 pounds at 10 months when she died. How in the hell could they watch her wither away like that? I guess no one came in their house to see her baby at all? Any time? I want to hold that child so bad. And show her love just like all the people on here. We have to keep our eyes open for things like this. When they showed the back of their house it didn’t look like they had any neighbors. Little girl R.I.P. honey. The Lord will hold you and Love you now.
She could have run away, called the police, fed her baby in secret while he slept, put the child in care, left her with relatives, seemed help from so many places. It is your baby there are no excuses for letting her die no matter what circumstances you are in.
Glad their gone. His reaction was priceless with his mouth open like that, practicing what his new job will be for the rest of his life. May they never rest ..
I was once an abused wife too but I was able to raised my two son properly caring feeding bringing them to school they were my very reason to soldier on❤
So disgusting it hurts! No excuse! So many women abuse who know when it's time to run with their children!! How do you call yourself a mother and have education in early childhood development 🤷🏽♀️ FML!! 😭
She is NOT a victim. The best I can tell is she was simply to lazy to deal with a baby; to feed her, to diaper her, to clean up her crib, etc. atrocious!! Take responsibility AT THE VERY LEAST for killing her you predator!!!
Man this is insanity. Too graphic to show the picts of her starved body. It must be incredible because I took my son to the drs thinking he was too thin and the Dr was like, "you're son is just fine. He's in the 24% so he's perfectly good." And she seemed annoyed telling me this but I guess he's just a tiny guy. He thinks he's hulk so that's cool lol
It was bad Mary’s eyes were sunk in her body looked like a 100 year old they are from my town I have spoke to one of the officers who was on the scene he had to seek counseling he never seen anything like that and hopes he never does again..
That baby was 8lbs when she died. A Normal 10 month old should have been about 15-20 pounds. She was the weight of a newborn baby and couldn't even hold her up because she was neglected.
Domestic violence is no excuse for allowing a child to be abused or neglected, I was abused myself and if I'd had a kid I'd protect a kid if I'd had one and minimally give my child to someone capable of taking care of it.
I am a victim of various forms of abuse and I would die for my children. I’m tired of the excuses. We are grownups and responsible. We.are.responsible. Period.
They care more about themselves not the poor baby. They deserve to be locked up. I can't believe parents could be this cruel. Put a child to bed 3 and not check on her till the next morning. You can tell by the baby's weight and a molded mattress it was normal to leave that baby by its self all the time. No Excuse for what these cruel parents did to their own baby. Its so horrible and sad for the Baby Not them.
Child neglect IS child abuse. She doesn't get a pass. It's called, RUN. If someone hurts me, I'm living my life looking for a means of escape, and I'm out at the first opportunity. Even a dog has that instinct. But wait, it's my BABY that needs saving, and I do nothing! No. Just, no. Make an example of this thing and give her LIFE W/O.
@@sirajmustapha2214 No, no torture in the way your name implies, but does it really take Torture??? Yet, I have been hurt, and I don't like it! And unless you're an established masochist, ANYONE will seek to separate themselves from abuse - some even kill to escape. Allowing a baby to suffer unto death, is inexcusable, and if you believe otherwise, you need prayer. And yes, a dog will become passive towards it's abuser, but even a dog has the instinct to run when it fears being hurt. I've Never seen a dog that just lays down and takes a beating, and neither have you.
@@ruffadamsthegreat.2662 No and No. Perhaps my initial response was a bit impulsive; I simply don't know all of the details and withhold judgement. It's a sad world and always has been ...
I do believe the wife was deeply abused by her husband. I watched several reports about their home that was filthy and full of holes, from someone being thrown into the walls and doors. I think she felt genuine remorse, whereas he obly felt anger at being sent away for what he thought was the death of some worthless creature.
She was victim of cult spiritual type of brainwash, which goes beyond DV. To go against him or escape home is the same as sinning against God, plus the fear of what he could do to her and the kids if he found out about it. I’m sure she thought he would murder her or one of the kids to teach her a lesson. Maybe if she let him have his way as always, she and the kids would turn out fine. She seemed truly grieved about the death of her baby, as if even though she did everything he wanted, the worst outcome happened anyway. She has been groomed to believe she is powerless and what he is doing to them has the approval of God. All the while living kind of isolated from society. This is not a process that is done overnight, psychopaths like him have a talent to create mental chains that are the worst part of the abuse because you believe that standing up for yourself (even if against something you know is unjust) is wrong, it’s risky, it angers God and you are asking for this rebellious act to be treated with violence. If he hurted her or the children as result of this “rebellion”, he would make sure to say this was all her fault and she probably already thought of it as her fault. That puts a huge weight on the decision to leave or even going against his orders. I feel awfully sorry for her, the baby daughter and the other children and all the victims of cult brainwashing.
Life in prison is to good for them. They both should get the death penalty. No excuse for how they treated their own baby. I had a violent childhood too but I never starved or hurt any of my children. Just another excuse trying to blame someone else.
She had a degree in early childhood,there is no way she was not aware something was wrong or that she was oversleeping. I do think she was abused but she cant claim she thought an 10 month old weighing 8lbs is normal
In his 2nd interrogation,the investigator said his wife finally confessed Mary had been sleeping for 13-16 hours for 2 months before she took her last breath.and proven babies do that because the body has no energy . poor little angel👼
The mother is a grown woman, and made decisions. The only victim here is the helpless innocent baby that was utterly reliant on food from her parents. Food and nourishment that she never received from either of these monsters.
...she found her child dead, 1 and a half HOUR later they call Police? The first person they called is a laywer??? 3.30pm they put her to bed and at 10am THE NEXT day they checked on her?? 19 hrs without food, water or hygiene??? Wtff!!!
The dad wasn't hurting for food, obviously. He must have had plenty of food for himself. The mom failed to protect her baby and that is a crime in itself. Whether she was abused or not she should have gotten her baby out of there because neither one of them wanted that precious baby. At least, the baby is with God and He will always protect her. This is such a horrific crime.
The husband is clearly a monster. I guess victims of abuse have to be punished as well to change the way they react to abuse/incentivize leaving w/ their loss of freedom ... if you don't leave when your children are being abused you will be just as responsible. You have to protect your children from known harm & keep them safe.
I have 2 little girls myself, and there is nothing that my husband could do to me that would cause me to allow my children to starve to death..... if what she is claiming is true, and he was abusive, then she failed those children long before the baby died.... i am sure most wont agree with my opinion, but women who stay in abusive situations with their children, should not be allowed to keep them.... So, whether he was abusing her or not, she is exactly where she belongs!!! She forced her children to live in hell, for whatever B.S. excuse or reason she gave, so the least she should do now is live in prison.... heres an idea, how about dont keep having children if your husband is an abusive, religous lunatic!!? If you decide to stay, you get what you deserve, but the children dont deserve any of it!!! My attitude would be entirely different if it was a single women in an abusive relationship, i would be supportive and feel terrible for her.....but the second you become a mother, life isnt about you anymore!!!
I wouldn't starve my baby live in filth and just down right be a monster if I was beat and raped that just sounds stupid they both got life I'm shocked justice don't happen often god bless the children ❤️
Even abused; she could leave with babies. Abuse is NOT an excuse. If she has PTSD not treated to point of not taking g care of kids, she shouldn’t have them!
Abuse is not an excuse but it is a valid reason for somebody to not seek attention from others because they don't want to be beat to death when they're alone with their abuser for seeking help my mom died looking for help trying to get help for us kids so you can go f*** yourself if you think that this woman didn't care. She didn't have PTSD before the relationship you ... if you watched any of the trial you would see that her husband beat the s*** out of her that was when she got PTSD
She had 2 years to come up with something to say before trial, I'm not making excuses for either one. She worked from may until August when it happened..3 -11 and your away from your house.. supposed to be when the baby starting losing the weight..and at the end the mother is working 6 days a week by then,and she couldn't open her mouth and tell anyone and get help?? The other 2 kids were healthy they said..4 years old. They done did the baby stage with them.. absolutely no excuse for this! I am a dv survivor..3 kids. I heard she had to give the baby up for adoption that she had in jail? Did the make her do that?
It makes me sick when women use domestic violence or abuse as an excuse to be negligent and useless. I'm glad the judge did not buy her playing the victim card and sentenced her to life without parole.
This story makes me MAD. If you see something say something. I don't care if you are the grandparents, you need to call CPS. Mary's grandparents kept telling the parents that she needed to go to the doctor. People NEED TO DO THAT. Your moral obligation is to the helpless grandchild child. Not your grown adult child.
I am sorry she went trough abuse but no amount of abuse explain that the baby lay day after day alone in her crip starving to death. There must have been someway she could have stopped it, anything. I mean she looks healthy herself, so I guess she still managed to take care of herself. Not to mention she managed to hold a job.
Tatianians lawyer needs his head examined trying to make out the abuse from her husband as an excuse for slowly starving an infant to death,he’s a horrible horrible man
I’m looking at this in June 2023 following the ‘doomsday mom’ Lori Vallow Daybell trial and with the Idaho 4 murders and Bryan Kohberger in the news for their brutal killings of children and young adults, but it is this one that gets me feeling ill and choked up.
Go judged, go! I'm so glad that everyone is not backing down on giving either one of these monsters what they want to get out of their actions! She's full of poop and she could have told someone at the hospital of what he was doing to her then! The hospital would have called CPS in Adult Protective Services in the police and when they allowed her to leave with him after having their daughter if he was such an abuser! She was only then crying when she learned her fate was imprisonment for life in trying to find a way to save her own skin and because her husband was with her everyday because she was behind bars and she was behind bars are plenty of time to think of what she was going to do and say to get herself out of prison. Just like her lies about her daughter being fed that's why they waited as long as they didn't call the police and called their" so-called attorneys to think up the story that they were going to tell and then use our heavenly father Jesus to get their way out of things!!!! Jesus or God their both of the same holy trinity would never accept what they said or did to their baby girls life. I'm shocked that when They tried using God for their actions , their both very lucky he didn't strike them both dead on the spot for their disgusting actions!!!! 😒
It’s not that people can’t understand how being abused would affect her, it’s that we don’t believe her. He’s an evil sociopath, she’s a weak willed woman that put her husband above her children. They are both guilty and deserve life in prison. Maybe this case will help future parents choose their children’s health over their crazy ideology.
I’m a single parent and was in an abusive relationship, but my children were well fed and all graduates and living a healthy life. These two are monsters 👿
The baby weight about *half* of what a normal baby that age should weigh. This wasn't a case where she did one mistake for an hour or so because of the stress of having an abusive husband.
The fact that he lost so much weight in jail goes to show that while Mary was alive he was a gluttonous, junk food eating, neglectful, lazy narcissist. Wonder how he feels not being given lots to eat?
How she can maintain her innocence when she watched her infant daughter literally starve to death in front of her… she is disgusting and should have zero mercy.
When the investigator asked her in the interrogation room couldn't she tell Mary had lost a bunch of weight and was able to see all her bones and spine, maybe during a bath? She said she probably closed her eyes to it,and that baby Mary hadn't been bathed in 2 weeks.. their sorry excuse of POS.. just put her in the other room and left her to die
Made me sick listening to both of them explaining how much and how times a day they claimed she ate and nursed little Mary and outright lying about it..
That’s insane honestly people who do this to their kids are rats. first of all they could have kids most of us can’t or are trying and second of all neglect is a big no-no..
Does this couple realize them the pain their baby went through slowl dying from starvation. Like all he cares about with his mouth wide open is himself. disgusting!!!
I think they want us to be understanding that they couldn't risk taking their doctor and risk getting in trouble, so they decided to risk her dying instead, but they didn't think she would die, just be skinny.
10 months old and only gain one and half pound from birth. Babies don't sleep l5 hours without waking for food. She was too weak to wake or cry out in hunger.
I was fed at 8am and 5 pm. In between I was 100% in my crib. As a toddler I was put out in the morning on the farm to wait until my dad got home after work. I was underweight and sick. I survived because a neighbor friend noticed and started visiting with snacks for me. And my older preteen sister took care of me after school sometimes. No one ever noticed.
I went through domestic abuse too but never in my life would I have put my children through this. Abuse sucks. That’s why you pick your kids. Don’t use abuse to make your actions less disgusting. Take your kids and stay in a women’s shelter. You can’t tell me you didn’t know as a mother your baby was starving. You knew but didn’t care enough that she was going to die. No amount of abuse can justify looking at your beautiful babies starving body and ribs sticking out and thinking, “she’s sick how sad.”
The defense attorney is a POS. It’s a mother‘s instinct to protect her child. I don’t care if you were beaten to a pulp and raped daily. You would still have the love for your child and escape. Many women throughout history have been in the same situation and successfully escaped or died trying. With the mother is essentially saying is, it was better to protect her own life than her Baby’s I hope she gets sweet justice in prison
They both deserved what they got. After the fact she can claim she was abused, and it may be true, but she still starved and abused her children, and did nothing to protect them. She could have.
I don't care how innocent you think you are. Your a mother of 3 and one of those births should have awakened the strength to save yourself and your children. You literally watched your baby slowly die and did nothing.
Justice prevailed for 10 month old baby ❤....yet, starvation is the MOST horrendous CRIME ever...while the parents both looked OBESE. As for the evidence of the urine infested mattress....SIS on both parents......I hope they receive the worse bedding in Prison...get the feeling what an innocent baby experienced.
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They said they didn't take Mary to the Dr. because of their strong beliefs. First thing Seth did when they arrested him? Demanded they let him see a Dr. I hope neither of them ever gets out.
Omfg. I didn't know that. Not surprised but very noteworthy
And that was a load of horse hockey. They had dealt with CPS before with their oldest child. They didn't want to give their kids medical attention because CPS would be on their butts again.
He sure endulged himself in food! So disgusted. Her life mattered. I would’ve done anything to have a daughter!
I see he is really thin now..
In 2022..
Poor baby..im glad he got life
Yes glutony
You are so right! Most parents will feed their children before eating themselves.
this is an obvious case of a woman going thru battered wife syndrome.
Also the dad seemed to be more worried about not giving into big pharma than he was about the health of those poor kids.
Fn ridiculous when idiots like this take their theories out on their children.
My mother suffered from domestic abuse and violence, but she would NEVER starve us, even for a few hours, or one day.
She'd be killed by my father first, before she would allow that to happen.
These two only seem upset for themselves. They show no regret or empathy for the suffering they've caused.
They were utterly shocked when they were initially charged, as they had behaved like it was no big deal, to that point.
I literally think they believed they weren't guilty of anything. That subjecting your baby to that level of abuse, and suffering was just normal.
Exactly
Yes, and the mom was educated. She knew exactly what was happening and allowed it .
Thank you michigan for holding both parents accountable.
I have trouble understanding why the 2 other children were placed with his parents - people who saw the baby in her condition. They need proper care.
Plus he said later in the 911 call that he was referring to his parents when he said he called his lawyer and they were the ones who told him to wait till they got there before calling.
Because society is filled with pussies. She should’ve been sterilized long ago but people have morphed into what we used to call insane or retarded
3pm they put their baby down and they don’t touch it until the next day at 10am? How cruel, this whole event is beyond tragic.
I used to wake mine up if they peed in their diaper, cuz I felt bad if it was wet. I just wanted them to be comfy.
Right? Babies are like new toys. It’s harder to put them down than pick them up. Holding your child is the greatest joy a parent can have.
@georgejungle2255 omg. Yes, that's the perfect way to put it !!!
Touch “it”??? You mean her? Have some respect. This child was already disrespected to Death. 😪😪
lol calm down Karen
a 10 month old baby starves to death in her own home under the supervision and “care” of both parents.. and neither parents think they should be held responsible for what happened to her. disgusting.
she defended her husband’s treatment of her babies until she needed to come up with a defense.
parents lose their children due to circumstances outside of their control, and still struggle with survivor’s guilt, thinking if only they’d done something different, their baby would still be here.. the way she’s trying to deny her own murdered daughter of justice, just to save her own skin tells me all i need to know.
i saw the interrogation footage and the two even insisted they should just “forget” about the baby, and go back home to continue raising their other 3 babies as though nothing happened. when they told her how small her baby was, she got quite upset that they would “try to make her feel bad,” by presenting her that information. they didn’t seem to think the murder of their precious baby was even WORTH investigating, treating her murder investigation as though it’s a nuisance.
i’m so glad those other children were eventually saved from such a gruesome, painful life. thank god those parents got what they deserved, and can never harm another helpless baby again.
rest in peace, mary welsch. you deserved a life, and a family who loved you.
They reacted to the charges as if they were expecting a slap on the wrist. I saw their interrogation tapes and Seth especially acted as if it was no big deal that their baby died. Society won't have to worry about these two anymore.
"They reacted to the charges as if they were expecting a slap on the wrist."
Yeah, "Just another day!"
His 911 call was very telling. "Dead as a doornail" were his words if I'm remembering correctly
Seth was either deluded or thought he'd get away with it, a child doesn't starve to death overnight.....child abusers are lowest in food chain in prison, doubt he'll make many friends
Justice was served. I was expecting a lighter sentence like women often get.
When your husband starts mentioning the Bible whenever he wants you to do something, it’s a red flag.
Lol he literally tried every excuse in the book. Religion/insanity/stupidity blah blah blah.
Or....run..run for the hills. I live in the UK...l dont know anyone who believes in god. It's outdated here, most churches and chapels are curry houses or night clubs now.
Don't blame the hubby. He sleeps and she could catch a cab
Absolutely blame the hubby. He was abusive and allowed the death of his child through extreme neglect and indifference. But also blame the mother. She played a part. But have a little compassion for mother due to her also being a victim. I think her sentence should have been lighter than the husband’s sentence.
Are these parents sacrificing their kids to an evil force.... something is very wrong.
It doesn't stop him from going to doctor to get glasses.
holy cows, you’re right. the over fed bastard saw an optometrist. Oi.
Yeah and apparently when he got to prison wanted to see the doctor 🙄
8lbs. My kids were this weight when they were born.
Same..My daughter was chunky lil cherub 16lbs at 3mon..What parent thinks a baby sleepung 16-19 hrs is normal🤬🤬..gtfo poor Mary was to weak to cry. RIP Mary🙏
The attorney for Tatiana is disgusting, trying to invoke rape into the fact she neglected her child. That is a slap in the face to all those rape survivors, that spent dark hours dealing with the aftermath of what was perpetrated on them, that managed to find the strength to be present in their lives again.
Disgusting words trying to substantiate disgusting actions by a so called mother!
He didn’t trust doctors but he called a lawyer?!
And asked to be seen by a dr when arrested lol
I went through all those abuses and I damn well made sure my kids were fed, clothed & went to the doctor
lucky you had enough strength to keep up with things. not everyone is the same, she was obviously under a spell
@@jasperchance3382 You're sick for defending her. She belongs under the prison along with that beast of a husband.
@jasperchance3382 she's guilty. Just because she grasped at straws and turned against him after doesn't make her any less guilty. If her story was believable thr jury wouldn't have found her guilty.
@@jasperchance3382clown
@@jasperchance3382Under a spell…aw give me a break! She didn’t go along with helping him rob a store…..she starved her own baby to death and let her die in agony😢
Please save any sympathy for the defenceless child who deserves it. At the very least the “mother” should have had her tubes tied long ago to make sure she couldn’t bring another child into the world just to suffer neglect,live in filth and then die before she’d even made it to her first birthday
I’ve just never understood how it is that people can hear or watch the same awful story and then not have a similar reaction to the majority of us which is heartbreak for the baby but also anger towards the monsters who done this or at the very least allowed it to happen.
Maybe you’re a better person than me but I genuinely thought through every scenario and still couldn’t imagine any where I’d allow this to happen to one of my children.
Notice neither of the"parents" appear to have missed a meal tho.
He called his lawyer first...wow.
I wonder if it’s ok to get lawyers/liars , to represent him in jail? I mean, if he’s so righteous, then he shouldn’t need anyone to handle his fate. God will do it. Or maybe he can eat some fruit and veggies from his farm and when he wakes up, his problems will be gone .
As someone who has been a victim, I would never use that as a reason to not take accountability for my actions. I think a more likely reaction of an abuse victim is to believe they deserve to be punished.
I was a victim and while I kept going back to my now ex I'd like to think I'd consider my child if I'd had one and ran for the hills
@@sallyyexley9627 i’m glad you managed to find a way out that situation.
It’s certainly easier when you have someone else to fight for. But its important to fight for yourself
Damn she really clinged on to anything that might get her a lighter sentence, lets hope she has a great time in prison when inmates find out there charges.
They gonna take her food
I mean, the other people in jail are shitty humans too
@@miligutierrez9973 that's just the start
Prior to losing weight in prison, if Seth Welch had given his baby 1/16 of what he ate per day, his baby would still be alive today.
Let's not pretend the jury and judge did not notice he was a FASF🙄🤯🤣 . I WOULD HAVE GAVE HIM A YEAR FOR EVERY CHICKEN WHEN HE ATE WHILE STARVING HIS BEAUTIFUL BABY
More like 1% of what he consumed!
Oh please stop making her a victim.
Exactly. She had the choice to leave him and she didn't.
Or trying to.
There's One victim here, and poor thing is deceased.
Just because her daughter was a victim doesn't mean she wasn't also a victim. No doubt she deserves to be punished though.
@@ruffadamsthegreat.2662 You have probably never been raped and beaten ... ruff, ruff, bow, wow, oogie, boogie😉
I left my ex-husband multiple times but he had alienated me from my family so I had no where to go. My own sister told me to leave. The justice system failed me so many time but my ex-husband learned "you better just go ahead and kill me." He will be eligible for parole when he is 96 years old.
8lbs at 10 months 😳 that's the size of a newborn how dod she even survive 10 months that poor baby girl .😥
Wait you put the baby to bed at 3pm and don’t check on her until 10am the next day?
Any person knows the difference in slow growing vs malnutrition. There is so much access to information and help...its a CHOICE to allow a baby to suffer, and one she made.
She went to school for early childhood development ZERO EXCUSE
They are religious and not believing in medicine, do you expect any kind of cleverness??
OMG she weighed only 8 pounds at 10 months when she died. How in the hell could they watch her wither away like that? I guess no one came in their house to see her baby at all? Any time? I want to hold that child so bad. And show her love just like all the people on here. We have to keep our eyes open for things like this. When they showed the back of their house it didn’t look like they had any neighbors. Little girl R.I.P. honey. The Lord will hold you and Love you now.
She could have run away, called the police, fed her baby in secret while he slept, put the child in care, left her with relatives, seemed help from so many places. It is your baby there are no excuses for letting her die no matter what circumstances you are in.
Glad their gone. His reaction was priceless with his mouth open like that, practicing what his new job will be for the rest of his life. May they never rest ..
She claims her innocence. She is a mother then that LET that man slowly kill her baby. She's responsible as well.
*This is absolutely heartbreaking*
I was once an abused wife too but I was able to raised my two son properly caring feeding bringing them to school they were my very reason to soldier on❤
Life!! Now that’s justice!
If you call your lawyer before calling the police when u find someone dead, you know you are responsible for it.
So disgusting it hurts! No excuse! So many women abuse who know when it's time to run with their children!! How do you call yourself a mother and have education in early childhood development 🤷🏽♀️ FML!! 😭
They're lucky I'm not in charge ...
Their penalty would be death.
She is NOT a victim. The best I can tell is she was simply to lazy to deal with a baby; to feed her, to diaper her, to clean up her crib, etc. atrocious!! Take responsibility AT THE VERY LEAST for killing her you predator!!!
Man this is insanity. Too graphic to show the picts of her starved body. It must be incredible because I took my son to the drs thinking he was too thin and the Dr was like, "you're son is just fine. He's in the 24% so he's perfectly good." And she seemed annoyed telling me this but I guess he's just a tiny guy. He thinks he's hulk so that's cool lol
It was bad Mary’s eyes were sunk in her body looked like a 100 year old they are from my town I have spoke to one of the officers who was on the scene he had to seek counseling he never seen anything like that and hopes he never does again..
That baby was 8lbs when she died. A Normal 10 month old should have been about 15-20 pounds. She was the weight of a newborn baby and couldn't even hold her up because she was neglected.
@@Horrorblonde this man was nuts he know what he donig his laywer was mean and lazy okay plus he didnt care for her .
@@michellelohde8683 I am in awe of your amazing communication skills! Did you attend Harvard?😂
Domestic violence is no excuse for allowing a child to be abused or neglected, I was abused myself and if I'd had a kid I'd protect a kid if I'd had one and minimally give my child to someone capable of taking care of it.
I am a victim of various forms of abuse and I would die for my children. I’m tired of the excuses. We are grownups and responsible. We.are.responsible. Period.
These two should serve life without the possibility of parole!
LOL!! Did you not pay attention to the video? They both ARE doing life without parole. Maybe pay attention next time.
@@mikeawesome9212 bruh why do aggressive
No they shouldn´t. They should be executed.
@@gabyolive5686 That’s aggressive to you???
They care more about themselves not the poor baby. They deserve to be locked up. I can't believe parents could be this cruel. Put a child to bed 3 and not check on her till the next morning. You can tell by the baby's weight and a molded mattress it was normal to leave that baby by its self all the time. No Excuse for what these cruel parents did to their own baby. Its so horrible and sad for the Baby Not them.
Child neglect IS child abuse.
She doesn't get a pass. It's called, RUN.
If someone hurts me, I'm living my life looking for a means of escape, and I'm out at the first opportunity. Even a dog has that instinct. But wait, it's my BABY that needs saving, and I do nothing! No. Just, no.
Make an example of this thing and give her LIFE W/O.
No doubt you're the perfect specimen of humanity, NOT!
Ever been tortured? Even a "dog", as you say, would bow its head down in fear. You've never seen tortured dogs too I suppose.
@@sirajmustapha2214
No, no torture in the way your name implies, but does it really take Torture???
Yet, I have been hurt, and I don't like it!
And unless you're an established masochist, ANYONE will seek to separate themselves from abuse - some even kill to escape. Allowing a baby to suffer unto death, is inexcusable, and if you believe otherwise, you need prayer.
And yes, a dog will become passive towards it's abuser, but even a dog has the instinct to run when it fears being hurt. I've Never seen a dog that just lays down and takes a beating, and neither have you.
@@barneyronnie
No, but do I need to be?
And are you excusing her???
@@ruffadamsthegreat.2662 No and No. Perhaps my initial response was a bit impulsive; I simply don't know all of the details and withhold judgement. It's a sad world and always has been ...
Funny how she didn't mention any of the abuse or rape in her interrogation.
I do believe the wife was deeply abused by her husband. I watched several reports about their home that was filthy and full of holes, from someone being thrown into the walls and doors. I think she felt genuine remorse, whereas he obly felt anger at being sent away for what he thought was the death of some worthless creature.
That is not an excuse to allow this baby to die. She had 10 months to get help.
She was victim of cult spiritual type of brainwash, which goes beyond DV. To go against him or escape home is the same as sinning against God, plus the fear of what he could do to her and the kids if he found out about it. I’m sure she thought he would murder her or one of the kids to teach her a lesson. Maybe if she let him have his way as always, she and the kids would turn out fine. She seemed truly grieved about the death of her baby, as if even though she did everything he wanted, the worst outcome happened anyway. She has been groomed to believe she is powerless and what he is doing to them has the approval of God. All the while living kind of isolated from society. This is not a process that is done overnight, psychopaths like him have a talent to create mental chains that are the worst part of the abuse because you believe that standing up for yourself (even if against something you know is unjust) is wrong, it’s risky, it angers God and you are asking for this rebellious act to be treated with violence. If he hurted her or the children as result of this “rebellion”, he would make sure to say this was all her fault and she probably already thought of it as her fault. That puts a huge weight on the decision to leave or even going against his orders. I feel awfully sorry for her, the baby daughter and the other children and all the victims of cult brainwashing.
Life in prison is to good for them. They both should get the death penalty. No excuse for how they treated their own baby. I had a violent childhood too but I never starved or hurt any of my children. Just another excuse trying to blame someone else.
I feel sick. This is haunting.
10 months old and 8 pounds... doesn't happen overnight.
She had a degree in early childhood,there is no way she was not aware something was wrong or that she was oversleeping. I do think she was abused but she cant claim she thought an 10 month old weighing 8lbs is normal
In his 2nd interrogation,the investigator said his wife finally confessed Mary had been sleeping for 13-16 hours for 2 months before she took her last breath.and proven babies do that because the body has no energy . poor little angel👼
The mother is a grown woman, and made decisions. The only victim here is the helpless innocent baby that was utterly reliant on food from her parents. Food and nourishment that she never received from either of these monsters.
...she found her child dead, 1 and a half HOUR later they call Police? The first person they called is a laywer??? 3.30pm they put her to bed and at 10am THE NEXT day they checked on her?? 19 hrs without food, water or hygiene??? Wtff!!!
The dad wasn't hurting for food, obviously. He must have had plenty of food for himself. The mom failed to protect her baby and that is a crime in itself. Whether she was abused or not she should have gotten her baby out of there because neither one of them wanted that precious baby. At least, the baby is with God and He will always protect her. This is such a horrific crime.
No matter what he did or didn’t do to her your job is to protect your children! What sick selfish people!
The husband is clearly a monster. I guess victims of abuse have to be punished as well to change the way they react to abuse/incentivize leaving w/ their loss of freedom ... if you don't leave when your children are being abused you will be just as responsible. You have to protect your children from known harm & keep them safe.
It looks like the mother has remorse… unlike the father
They should’ve given the children to someone who wanted them!
Funny how they cry when they get sentenced
It's very satisfying to watch 😁 Hope Seth's mouth opens this much to recieve cellmates' d*cks
Dad ate just fine obviously. Looks like he may not be eating as well today however.
They starving him in prison that's why he lost weight
I have 2 little girls myself, and there is nothing that my husband could do to me that would cause me to allow my children to starve to death..... if what she is claiming is true, and he was abusive, then she failed those children long before the baby died.... i am sure most wont agree with my opinion, but women who stay in abusive situations with their children, should not be allowed to keep them.... So, whether he was abusing her or not, she is exactly where she belongs!!! She forced her children to live in hell, for whatever B.S. excuse or reason she gave, so the least she should do now is live in prison.... heres an idea, how about dont keep having children if your husband is an abusive, religous lunatic!!? If you decide to stay, you get what you deserve, but the children dont deserve any of it!!! My attitude would be entirely different if it was a single women in an abusive relationship, i would be supportive and feel terrible for her.....but the second you become a mother, life isnt about you anymore!!!
I wouldn't starve my baby live in filth and just down right be a monster if I was beat and raped that just sounds stupid they both got life I'm shocked justice don't happen often god bless the children ❤️
Even abused; she could leave with babies. Abuse is NOT an excuse. If she has PTSD not treated to point of not taking g care of kids, she shouldn’t have them!
Abuse is not an excuse but it is a valid reason for somebody to not seek attention from others because they don't want to be beat to death when they're alone with their abuser for seeking help my mom died looking for help trying to get help for us kids so you can go f*** yourself if you think that this woman didn't care. She didn't have PTSD before the relationship you ... if you watched any of the trial you would see that her husband beat the s*** out of her that was when she got PTSD
She had 2 years to come up with something to say before trial, I'm not making excuses for either one. She worked from may until August when it happened..3 -11 and your away from your house.. supposed to be when the baby starting losing the weight..and at the end the mother is working 6 days a week by then,and she couldn't open her mouth and tell anyone and get help?? The other 2 kids were healthy they said..4 years old. They done did the baby stage with them.. absolutely no excuse for this! I am a dv survivor..3 kids. I heard she had to give the baby up for adoption that she had in jail? Did the make her do that?
It makes me sick when women use domestic violence or abuse as an excuse to be negligent and useless. I'm glad the judge did not buy her playing the victim card and sentenced her to life without parole.
she withdrew plea deal - dumb move
This story makes me MAD. If you see something say something. I don't care if you are the grandparents, you need to call CPS. Mary's grandparents kept telling the parents that she needed to go to the doctor. People NEED TO DO THAT. Your moral obligation is to the helpless grandchild child. Not your grown adult child.
They must be keeping his trays from him. Good.
Exactly! They put him on a diet! He can go eat sh*t for all I care.
She guilty as hell as hell. She said she gave her a bath 2weeks ago 🤬 she's also lied about how many times she ate
I am sorry she went trough abuse but no amount of abuse explain that the baby lay day after day alone in her crip starving to death. There must have been someway she could have stopped it, anything. I mean she looks healthy herself, so I guess she still managed to take care of herself. Not to mention she managed to hold a job.
Good that she has no chance of parole. She should not be free, if only to keep her from doing anything like this again.
Tatianians lawyer needs his head examined trying to make out the abuse from her husband as an excuse for slowly starving an infant to death,he’s a horrible horrible man
I’m looking at this in June 2023 following the ‘doomsday mom’ Lori Vallow Daybell trial and with the Idaho 4 murders and Bryan Kohberger in the news for their brutal killings of children and young adults, but it is this one that gets me feeling ill and choked up.
Thank you for holding hr accountable.
Go judged, go! I'm so glad that everyone is not backing down on giving either one of these monsters what they want to get out of their actions! She's full of poop and she could have told someone at the hospital of what he was doing to her then! The hospital would have called CPS in Adult Protective Services in the police and when they allowed her to leave with him after having their daughter if he was such an abuser! She was only then crying when she learned her fate was imprisonment for life in trying to find a way to save her own skin and because her husband was with her everyday because she was behind bars and she was behind bars are plenty of time to think of what she was going to do and say to get herself out of prison. Just like her lies about her daughter being fed that's why they waited as long as they didn't call the police and called their" so-called attorneys to think up the story that they were going to tell and then use our heavenly father Jesus to get their way out of things!!!! Jesus or God their both of the same holy trinity would never accept what they said or did to their baby girls life. I'm shocked that when
They tried using God for their actions , their both very lucky he didn't strike them both dead on the spot for their disgusting actions!!!! 😒
The defense lawyers for both these monsters are dangerous .... to tell people they had a excuse for child abuse!
It’s not that people can’t understand how being abused would affect her, it’s that we don’t believe her. He’s an evil sociopath, she’s a weak willed woman that put her husband above her children. They are both guilty and deserve life in prison. Maybe this case will help future parents choose their children’s health over their crazy ideology.
Ever parent who abuse and cruelty to a child going to jail for life.
I’m a single parent and was in an abusive relationship, but my children were well fed and all graduates and living a healthy life. These two are monsters 👿
I have never, ever heard about an abused mother starving her child to death because of it.
The baby weight about *half* of what a normal baby that age should weigh. This wasn't a case where she did one mistake for an hour or so because of the stress of having an abusive husband.
That "father" though... I don't think there is a negative word or name strong enough to describe him.
I hope he has lost that much weight because. Other prisoners are take his food off his plate at meal times. Eye for an eye.
Justice
The fact that he lost so much weight in jail goes to show that while Mary was alive he was a gluttonous, junk food eating, neglectful, lazy narcissist. Wonder how he feels not being given lots to eat?
life without parole is overkill..
I mother gives her life for her children! She wanted to keep that horrible man, than save her daughter!
How she can maintain her innocence when she watched her infant daughter literally starve to death in front of her… she is disgusting and should have zero mercy.
When the investigator asked her in the interrogation room couldn't she tell Mary had lost a bunch of weight and was able to see all her bones and spine, maybe during a bath? She said she probably closed her eyes to it,and that baby Mary hadn't been bathed in 2 weeks.. their sorry excuse of POS.. just put her in the other room and left her to die
Made me sick listening to both of them explaining how much and how times a day they claimed she ate and nursed little Mary and outright lying about it..
That’s insane honestly people who do this to their kids are rats. first of all they could have kids most of us can’t or are trying and second of all neglect is a big no-no..
Does this couple realize them the pain their baby went through slowl dying from starvation. Like all he cares about with his mouth wide open is himself. disgusting!!!
I think they want us to be understanding that they couldn't risk taking their doctor and risk getting in trouble, so they decided to risk her dying instead, but they didn't think she would die, just be skinny.
10 months old and only gain one and half pound from birth. Babies don't sleep l5 hours without waking for food. She was too weak to wake or cry out in hunger.
Why don’t they ever show the actual reaction? I want to see their faces when they hear the sentence
They cry because she got cought and going to prison for life I don't feel sorry for her at all
Great! She DESERVES life without parole!
A ten month old baby weighing only 8 lbs! Some babies weigh more than that when born!
I was fed at 8am and 5 pm. In between I was 100% in my crib. As a toddler I was put out in the morning on the farm to wait until my dad got home after work. I was underweight and sick. I survived because a neighbor friend noticed and started visiting with snacks for me. And my older preteen sister took care of me after school sometimes. No one ever noticed.
I went through domestic abuse too but never in my life would I have put my children through this. Abuse sucks. That’s why you pick your kids. Don’t use abuse to make your actions less disgusting. Take your kids and stay in a women’s shelter. You can’t tell me you didn’t know as a mother your baby was starving. You knew but didn’t care enough that she was going to die. No amount of abuse can justify looking at your beautiful babies starving body and ribs sticking out and thinking, “she’s sick how sad.”
The defense attorney is a POS. It’s a mother‘s instinct to protect her child. I don’t care if you were beaten to a pulp and raped daily. You would still have the love for your child and escape. Many women throughout history have been in the same situation and successfully escaped or died trying. With the mother is essentially saying is, it was better to protect her own life than her Baby’s I hope she gets sweet justice in prison
Another good reason to leave an abuser. I believe she was abused but I also believe she abused her child.
Why does America get sentencing so wrong all the time?
Why would you wait that many hours apart to check on your baby
Because they knew they were killing her and that she was close to the end
SO irresponsible & Tragic! No Excuse for this!
They both deserved what they got. After the fact she can claim she was abused, and it may be true, but she still starved and abused her children, and did nothing to protect them. She could have.
I don't care how innocent you think you are. Your a mother of 3 and one of those births should have awakened the strength to save yourself and your children. You literally watched your baby slowly die and did nothing.
Justice prevailed for 10 month old baby ❤....yet, starvation is the MOST horrendous CRIME ever...while the parents both looked OBESE.
As for the evidence of the urine infested mattress....SIS on both parents......I hope they receive the worse bedding in Prison...get the feeling what an innocent baby experienced.
A ten month old weighed 8 pounds at the time of her death??? OMG, a lot of newborns weigh that much. That poor little baby....