Kevin Feige's X-Men Plan For Secret Wars AND Mutant Saga Explained!

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  • @OctavianKaijage
    @OctavianKaijage 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    X-Men vs Avengers

    • @NebulasLife
      @NebulasLife 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Hopefully 5 years after Secret Wars.

  • @UltimateSpider1385
    @UltimateSpider1385 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    Adding the Fantastic Four to Mutant Saga is genius because of how powerful Franklin Richards would be in the MCU. But since the President has issued an order to hunt down anyone who isn't human but different, this will lead to the existence of Mutants, but also the bigotry, prejudice, and prosecution of Mutants for their abilities.

    • @danknight84
      @danknight84 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Remember that MCU president after secret invasion is no longer president. Now it's President Ross/Red hulk. That presidential order was no more.

    • @UltimateSpider1385
      @UltimateSpider1385 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @danknight84 that order can still be issued if President Ross is impeached for his rampage as Red Hulk.

    • @davidjones8043
      @davidjones8043 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@danknight84the very same Ross who was responsible for the Sokovia Accords… and you think he wouldn’t want a ban on mutants?! Like… um what???
      Even if he has powers, he would ABSOLUTELY be behind something like that.

    • @davidjones8043
      @davidjones8043 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@UltimateSpider1385he wouldn’t need to be impeached… he would be backing something like that. 100 times out of 10

  • @humanhilightreal
    @humanhilightreal 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    What would be more interesting is if Doom uses her to destroy the Multiverse. And the M word she uses is not Mutants but "No More Multiverse". What a waybto create battleworld and also put a spin to the M word.

    • @CalebByRamen
      @CalebByRamen 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      THAT WOULD GO SO HARD

    • @HennyBuBuProductions
      @HennyBuBuProductions 53 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Didn’t even think of it, love this idea to pieces.

  • @OctavianKaijage
    @OctavianKaijage 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mutant saga is coming

  • @Larry1077
    @Larry1077 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm not saying I'm right, and I know lots of folks won't agree with me, but sometimes I feel that an X-men universe is better off separate from an Avengers universe. Like, those two universes are too big and just get in each others way? I know in the comics it works, but you can get away with much more in the comics than you can on screen. I'm certainly excited to see what happens, but I feel it could get convoluted.

    • @BusketRVA
      @BusketRVA 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with you on the "you can do so much more in comics than you can on screen" comment. It's very true as far as movies are concerned and even to an extent TV as well, but if Marvel were to actually do a combination TV show-into-Movie format they may actually be able to do great things with some great X-Men stories. If they ever plan on doing a Phoenix or Dark Phoenix Saga again, which I REALLY REALLY HOPE THEY DON'T, doing a TV to Movie format is the only way to tell that story in a satisfying and accurate way. Same is true with a Krakoa era or X-ecutioners song or Age of Apocalypse. Those stories need lost of room to build and breath and can't be done well in a movie or 2 or even 3

  • @TerrellAustin19941
    @TerrellAustin19941 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Awesome

  • @CalebByRamen
    @CalebByRamen 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i REALLY like how Josh explained how this may all go down. How the puzzle pieces are fitting together,

    • @Rtd976
      @Rtd976 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update
      -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
      -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
      -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
      -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
      --infinity saga--
      1. Iron man
      2.iron man 2
      3.Incredible Hulk
      4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
      5. Funny thing happened (*)
      6. Thor
      7. Capt. America
      8. Agent Carter (*)
      •[@-Agent Carter]
      9. Avengers
      •[A@-AOS S1:E6]
      10. Item 47 (*)
      •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
      •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
      •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
      •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
      •[DS@-The Defenders]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E7]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
      11. Capt. America & winter soldier
      •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
      12. Thor: dark world
      •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E1]
      13. Iron man 3
      14. All hail the king (*)
      15. Guardians of the galaxy
      •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
      16. Avengers: age of ultron
      •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E9]
      17. Ant man
      •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
      18. Capt. America: civil war
      •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
      •[@-Inhumans saga]
      •[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
      •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
      •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
      •[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
      19. Black panther
      20. Spider man: homecoming
      21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
      22. Dr. Strange
      •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)]
      •[%-Helstrom]
      23. Thor: ragnarok
      24. Infinity war
      25. Ant man & the wasp
      26. Capt. Marvel
      27. Endgame
      ---after tony saga---
      28. Spider man: far from home
      29. Thor: love and thunder
      30. Falcon and the winter soldier
      31. Black widow
      32. Hawkeye
      33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
      34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
      35. Echo
      36. Shang-chi
      37. She hulk
      38. Wakanda forever
      39. Secret invasion
      40. Moon knight
      41. Werewolf by night
      42. Wandavision
      --multiverse saga--
      43. Loki S1
      44. What if S:1
      45. Quantumania
      46. Loki S:2
      47. What if S:2
      48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
      49. Venom ($)
      50. Into the spider verse ($)
      51. Venom 2 ($)
      •[%-Spider man 1-3]
      •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
      52. Spider man: no way home
      53. Morbius ($)
      54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
      55. Across the spider verse ($)
      56. Venom 3 ($)
      57. Ms. Marvel
      58. The marvels
      •[@-X-men 96]
      59. X-men 97
      •[%-Fox X-men saga]
      •[%-The new mutants]
      60. Deadpool
      61. Deadpool 2
      •[%-Fox Daredevil]
      •[%-Elektra]
      •[%-Fox Punisher]
      •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
      •[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
      •[%-Blade Trilogy]
      62. Wolverine and Deadpool
      63. Agatha all along
      64. The eternals
      65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
      66. Thunderbolts(€)
      -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways.
      -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
      -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
      Unreleased content as of 11/19/24:
      1.Thunderbolts(€)
      2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
      3.Fantastic 4
      4Avengers: Doomsday
      5.Avengers: Secret wars
      6.Daredevil: born again
      7.Ironheart
      8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
      9.Marvel zombies
      10.Kraven
      11.eyes of wakanda
      12.Xmen97 S:2
      13.What if… S:3
      14.Wonder man
      15.Spider-man Noir
      16.Dr. Strange 3
      17.Spider-man 4
      18.The Midnight sons
      19.Blade?
      €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
      @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
      %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
      A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
      DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
      Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
      P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
      May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.

  • @ChillMonger
    @ChillMonger 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the theory that MCU Wanda says it to create mutants. "No. More Mutants."

  • @whoschicken
    @whoschicken 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sounds cool. idk how interested ill be in the mcu after secret wars. looking for an exit ill feel complete when i see toby, hugh and robert together on screen.

    • @CalicoEvrywerigo
      @CalicoEvrywerigo 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was thinking the 3 Sherlock Holmes Cumberbatch
      Dr. Strange
      RDJ Dr.Doom &
      Henry Cavill Dr.Essex

  • @dustinbridges6831
    @dustinbridges6831 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel the avengers will be done. We wont get an mcu with all the marvel characters together.

  • @CalebByRamen
    @CalebByRamen 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Spider-Man with the Symbiote and his perfect life trying to not give it up... would go SO HARD

  • @hunterlarson2454
    @hunterlarson2454 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite is the constant emphasis on the “MY THEORY OF DR DOOM”

  • @LaaLooTv
    @LaaLooTv 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for just getting straight to the point & not making us skip 1:30 for you to finally talk about the topic😭🤣

  • @GameFactsSpecial
    @GameFactsSpecial 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Holee

  • @declancanavan127
    @declancanavan127 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Doom saved gambit in the end of d and w he’s the only sorcerer right now besides maybe dr strange that has the power to sling ring to the void and he would be looking for him most likely because dr strange would have no idea about who gambit is

  • @CalicoEvrywerigo
    @CalicoEvrywerigo 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:37 #SinisterCavill 0:46

  • @daneo617
    @daneo617 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think the reason they changed Spiderman 4 from a street level film to a more multiversal film is to introduce Tom Hardys venom.

  • @cdogg46
    @cdogg46 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    01:35 omg wish he'd stop reminding us who Nathaniel Richards is😤

  • @jcarterla
    @jcarterla 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    They should have never fired James Gunn.

    • @garylazereyes1304
      @garylazereyes1304 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @eastwood9170
    @eastwood9170 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What if they play it out that the 616 has already gone through House of M, explaining why we've had no mutants thus far, and the 10005 universe has no Wanda, her and Doom are together somehow. I don't know enough for details but I think the idea is plausible

  • @charliesmarts1
    @charliesmarts1 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What makes the timeline sacred is the absence of Mutants. Kang knew they were too powerful. He makes sure they don't exists and he has more control.

  • @lukeluck1395
    @lukeluck1395 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    But silver surfer is a woman

    • @peytonabrams1820
      @peytonabrams1820 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Its not noran rad its a different surfer

  • @LJGrindewald
    @LJGrindewald 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wanda's gonna probably be used to restore the universe/multiverse. Her character/abilities being used instead of the Beyonders. I don't think she'll do a no more mutants but they might do that later in an X Men story. I reckon prior to the sacred timeline the mutants were in the multiverse and 616 but Kang changed things, which left our universe without mutants and whatever happens after will be a restored one. I think from the remnants of the void from Loki and Deadpool 3 will be used for battle world and it'll become a full planet.

  • @tonycumberbatch7651
    @tonycumberbatch7651 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Sacred Timeline is Not a Singular Timeline from One Universe. If you don't understand then rewatch Loki.
    Earth-616 in the MCU already has a few Mutants, Namor.. Kamala Khan.. Wanda Maximoff and Billy Kapland.
    It also has a lot of Mutates, Spider-Man.. Hulk.. Steve Rogers/Captain America.. Bucky Barnes.. Monica Rambeau.. Red Guardian..
    John Walker/U.S. Agentt.

    • @Rtd976
      @Rtd976 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      My marvel timeline: 11/19/24 update
      -The infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
      -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
      -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
      -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
      --infinity saga--
      1. Iron man
      2.iron man 2
      3.Incredible Hulk
      4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
      5. Funny thing happened (*)
      6. Thor
      7. Capt. America
      8. Agent Carter (*)
      •[@-Agent Carter]
      9. Avengers
      •[A@-AOS S1:E6]
      10. Item 47 (*)
      •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
      •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
      •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
      •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
      •[DS@-The Defenders]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E7]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
      11. Capt. America & winter soldier
      •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
      12. Thor: dark world
      •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E1]
      13. Iron man 3
      14. All hail the king (*)
      15. Guardians of the galaxy
      •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
      16. Avengers: age of ultron
      •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
      •[A@-AOS S1:E9]
      17. Ant man
      •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
      18. Capt. America: civil war
      •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
      •[@-Inhumans saga]
      •[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
      •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
      •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
      •[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
      •[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
      •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
      19. Black panther
      20. Spider man: homecoming
      21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
      22. Dr. Strange
      •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-2(WIP)]
      •[%-Helstrom]
      23. Thor: ragnarok
      24. Infinity war
      25. Ant man & the wasp
      26. Capt. Marvel
      27. Endgame
      ---after tony saga---
      28. Spider man: far from home
      29. Thor: love and thunder
      30. Falcon and the winter soldier
      31. Black widow
      32. Hawkeye
      33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
      34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
      35. Echo
      36. Shang-chi
      37. She hulk
      38. Wakanda forever
      39. Secret invasion
      40. Moon knight
      41. Werewolf by night
      42. Wandavision
      --multiverse saga--
      43. Loki S1
      44. What if S:1
      45. Quantumania
      46. Loki S:2
      47. What if S:2
      48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
      49. Venom ($)
      50. Into the spider verse ($)
      51. Venom 2 ($)
      •[%-Spider man 1-3]
      •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
      52. Spider man: no way home
      53. Morbius ($)
      54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
      55. Across the spider verse ($)
      56. Venom 3 ($)
      57. Ms. Marvel
      58. The marvels
      •[@-X-men 96]
      59. X-men 97
      •[%-Fox X-men saga]
      •[%-The new mutants]
      60. Deadpool
      61. Deadpool 2
      •[%-Fox Daredevil]
      •[%-Elektra]
      •[%-Fox Punisher]
      •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
      •[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
      •[%-Blade Trilogy]
      62. Wolverine and Deadpool
      63. Agatha all along
      64. The eternals
      65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
      66. Thunderbolts(€)
      -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…legion, the gifted, and the runaways.
      -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
      -I added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter sagas to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
      Unreleased content as of 11/19/24:
      1.Thunderbolts(€)
      2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
      3.Fantastic 4
      4Avengers: Doomsday
      5.Avengers: Secret wars
      6.Daredevil: born again
      7.Ironheart
      8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
      9.Marvel zombies
      10.Kraven
      11.eyes of wakanda
      12.Xmen97 S:2
      13.What if… S:3
      14.Wonder man
      15.Spider-man Noir
      16.Dr. Strange 3
      17.Spider-man 4
      18.The Midnight sons
      19.Blade?
      €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
      @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
      %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
      A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
      DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
      Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
      P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
      May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.

  • @garylazereyes1304
    @garylazereyes1304 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Say what!?

  • @RicklessSanchez
    @RicklessSanchez 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If Doctor Doom too much powerful then a god then Beyonder find many mutant people to stop Antagonist.

  • @2ndstreetmarvel
    @2ndstreetmarvel 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    👀👀

  • @smb963
    @smb963 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Will no more mutants happen in Doomsday?

  • @trucoomccoo
    @trucoomccoo 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As always, Disney jumps the fucking gun smh doubt he's brought this up but Disney has recently talked about the importance of Nova going forward as things will be getting more cosmic after secret wars. We also have them talking about the importance of the mutants going forward. Both the cosmic and the mutant should have been fleshed out by the time we got to secret wars. Save for maybe the Annihilation wave, there isn't an event or story as important or big of scale as secret wars. So what is their endgame here once secret wars is done? Do they just make something up?

  • @BBULLSHlT
    @BBULLSHlT 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No, MORE mutants

  • @gazwilliams-nc7jp
    @gazwilliams-nc7jp 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Im genuinely shocked that they havnt retconned Xmen to XPeople
    There still time for them to ruin Xmen though i guess

    • @CalebByRamen
      @CalebByRamen 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      GROW UP

    • @gazwilliams-nc7jp
      @gazwilliams-nc7jp 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @CalebByRamen hahah what?

  • @KC_sonic-on
    @KC_sonic-on 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    down for ALL OF THIS!!! tho my guess is they change Wanda's classic line to "NO! MORE MUTANTS"
    and its actually the Scarlet Witch who opens the multiverses to let the X-Men pour into MCU's 616 en masse!