A lot of these trails in the winter don’t look bad in the beginning, given that they lull you into a false sense of security. Before you know it you’re in too deep and in trouble. These guys are saviors.
I really like how you were concerned about not damaging the trees and you kept some humor going. That was a much more organized rescue then some I've watched!
we all have a ton of training from an I4WDTA (International four wheel drive trainers association) trainer here in Colorado. they are priceless skills on how to calculate your pulls, rig recoveries, and execute them safely. a lot of times rigging slips when you begin to put it under load and it doesn't do what you wanted it to. so there there is no reason to tear up the trees, and dragging your $450 winch line across trees and rocks just rips them in half (friction heat). so we take extra care to not damage things, which includes the trees. there's no call for it.
Love your post, thank you! Ok 1970’s , I took a track like yours but at Lake Mountain Aus, solo on at 250cc trail bike, got bogged down in slush, almost to the handle-bars opps! But there was two tyre prints in the snow so I abandoned my vehicle walked a kilometre in knee deep slush and snow to find two nice guys in a two man tent with a Haflinger. These kind guys helped me out! A big thank you Haflinger guys! I was in trouble was saved but WTF was a Haflinger? I had to have one, that happened, I just wish I had kept it !! LesC.
I was looking forward to a solo overlanding trip to Colorado this winter, while that looked like fun, I think this southern boy is gonna wait till spring.
I don't live in Colorado but watching these is a great learning tool for being prepared here in the Texas Hill Country which can have some nasty rock crawling trails as evidenced by all the beat up crawlers here. Don't get snow but we do have some super slick granite specially when just damp. Learn from others then learn how to deal with stuff when things do go south.
Well, if I ever get my FJC stuck and need help on some of those Colorado back country 4WD trails, I know who I'm gonna call, and it won't be ghost busters! Unselfish way to spend Christmas eve! Thanks for the work y'all do!! BTW, does your organization get any funding help from CORSAR?
awesome, met you guys when you came to winterpark couple weeks ago to recover my bro's Toyota. I was the guy with the big Cherokee waiting at the recovery site.
Merry Christmas! Be nice to run into you on the trail as long as it's not being hooked to your recovery strap! Think I did if you remember passing a black XJ while pulling someone down from mount baldy🤔
Justin King great job! Miss my CO4x4 community! (Jefe) Glad to know you guys still have each other’s backs!! Maybe next time I come out to CO we can do a a fox and the hound meet up for old times! We’ll have to get Val, Tiff and others back in town too!! - Jeff S.
a lot of times here in Colorado you can power through a spot and not need chains, the added wear and tear on the vehicle if you have to gas it hard with chains on is risky breaking axle shafts.
@@JustinKingOffroad Interesting reply. I'm retired so most of the time I don't go out when it snows. Back in the old day I had a Land Rover 88. When I was on the ambulance I would often chain up in my driveway before it snowed and be ready if we had a call. In 14 years I never broke an axle or got stuck even in two feet of snow with ice underneath. It does add a small amount of wear and tear, but most of the time if it got really bad. I'd put the transfer case in low and keep on trucking without having to gun it or push it hard. I know LR's are noted for breaking axles. When I was logging I drove a skidder and we never took the chains off that.
NOTE: when winching, block the winching vehicle with rocks, DO NOT, repeat DO NOT RELY ON JUST THE VEHICLE BRAKES TO HOLD VEHICLE (ya really dont want to blow out brakes out, voice of experience) rocks in front of wheels, tie back off to a tree or something solid. PS I said this before he got to the winching vehicle Chains: we would make our chains out of worn worn out grader chains. for real HD attachment deflate your tires a bit, put chains on as absolute tight as you can and re-inflate the tires.
I love what you guys are doing together on the “hills” for those in need. For what ever it’s worth, the drone footage was nice but having no sound made it feel dead (it depended on what you want to do one your channel). You could add some music there to add some body to the effort you are already putting in. Good onya!
yeah with youtube being so aggressive on copyright violations, i left this one silent. but i have found a royalty free site for some semi-decent music. moving forward i'll probably do that.
Very cool organization! Nice job with an obvious tough job in the snow, ice and cold...I'm a city guy; I love the wilderness and drive a 4X4 but screw that going onto steep mountain trails in wet or snow!...Luckily we don't have mountains in philly...:) It's a shame how people inconvenience others with their foolhardiness....Know where you're going and prepare for the trip...
he's got a nice rig for sure! when we need heavy lifting done we bring in the power wagons! we though for sure that final hill was going to need that truck to winch up both jeeps.
For my own curiosity and for future reference, would it be possible to include more info? Like temps, approximate snow depth, how or if rescued and rescue vehicles are outfitted, i.e., tire size and brand, lockers, etc. Thanks for your service!
Next time you do this you should listen to an EXPERT....ME! Hook the pulled car to rear trailer hitch. This will push it instead of pull. It will be pushing the rear down giving the pulled car more traction. Same thing for the pulling car.( from winch under and out from back. That will also pull down the pulling car.
alot more snow there this year. also he mentioned traps? where do you get a cage big enough for a mountain lion? i wish we could use footholds out here. if you guys ever need anything scouted or help this way let me know
The video does a good job of hiding just how steep that hill actually was. I was sucking for air pretty good and I am a regular hiker and jogger at elevation. there's not much you can do when you have to come up a 10 to 12% grade with 12 to 18 in of powder dry snow on it.
I have watched several of your recovery videos and must say it is nice to know people like you and the other volunteers are out there helping others when in need. I am a member of an atv/utv club here in the Denver/ springs area and we had been thinking of doing a winching or rescue/recovering training seminar for other club members. With your expertise in using a winch would this be something you would be interested in, showing proper and safe winching practices?
honestly i'd love to, but there is someone much more experienced that does this for a living. He trained us, and is one of the few I4WDTA trainers in the USA. Matt Balazs of "on trail training" is fantastic. We have all taken multiple of his courses. reach out to him at www.ontrailtraining.com/ he'd be a much better person for that kind of training.
Looks like fun, I have yet to go play in the snow. I should stop playing on the desert rocks and go up North and try the snow. Looks like I should get some snow chains just in case LoL. From sunny Arizona.
Not to tell you guys how to do your job but us truck drivers use bungees on the outside of the tires in order to not allow the chains to go to the inside of the tire and wraparound anyting it also helps keep them titer I don't know if you guys have tried that or know about it.
Good job. Glad to see people helping people. I noticed the chains on the red jk wasn't using the cam tensioners, instead using the bungee tensioners. Just wondering why? Cam tensioners work extremely well. You can get them so tight they'll never come off unless they break.
They were definitely in the open or loose position. Maybe on an aired down tire you would want flex in the chain which the bungie would allow. When they're tight they're silent, even at speed. The rescued jeeps chain were extremely loose "noisy". That's why they fell off. I'm also from Colorado-Arvada.. I have an 05 TJ which I also like lending a hand when people are in need .Enjoy... Thanks for the reply.
I have a jk wrangler unlimited and I understood there was some conflict with the settings for the brakes and the modes being used, but I didn't comprehend the exact nature of the problem and you didn't show the buttons being used to fix it, so I didn't learn the problem or how to fix it...
Search my channel for disable BLD. I have a couple on the problem. Basically the locker does not tell the canbus to not ride your brakes for traction aid. So you get them really hot and they squeak. And on a manual trans you really feel the loss of power.
Let me clarify my comment about too much air pressure. If you air down you don't need chains. Chains are for farmers who are trying to get to their mail box. Try going down to zero psi some time and get on top of the snow.
Question. The BLD why would it in gauge with lockers on. I dont have lockers just truetrac front and back. Question 2 how do you disable the BLD in case i run in to this.
why jeep doesn't engineer the two systems to talk to each other is beyond me. disabling it can be done through the canbus or accelerometer under the center console with a momentary switch.
I'm sorry if I missed it or if it's been addressed but do any of you run a mile marker /hydraulic winch? Wouldn't that be easier on the rigs on the long pulls?
Great work helping people out. Being new to off-road snow driving I wanted to ask a question about this recovery. In your opinion do you think this individual could have gotten out it he had a second set of chains for the front wheels, assuming the rear chains were his, and had a winch with a few tow straps for self recovery?
absolutely. the chains were borrowed from our team members, and had he had a winch (and chains) this could have been self recovered. granted it was A LOT of work. to do this alone would have been all day of rigging and re-rigging pulls to get back up the hill. at some point you'd just get exhausted.
I don't why jeep does a lot of shit. 48 Willys 302 with a 4;88 rear end and Dana's front and back never gets stopped like driving a tractor in a field, slow on the road but guts when ya need it.
There are a couple ways it seems. I wired in an interrupt switch by my shifter, but the red Jeep has a computer module to disable it which I didn't realize was possible actually.
it is a canbus over-ride to shut all the government required traction control aids off. i have an interrupt switch on mine, and the red jeep has a module in the aeroforce gauge that does it.
The BLD in the wrangler is FAR more refined than my Trailhawk... Mine is extremely abrupt and will often completely stop the vehicle. I’m not aware of any aftermarket support to accomplish what you’ve done for my Cherokee....
Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck at least four times as bad in far more remote places. Did I hear some ham radio call signs? What type of radio were you using, ham or GMRS/FRS?
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks, I'm a ham and licensed to be one also! Too many off highway, four wheel drive groups rely on CB or bubble pack FRS/GMRS. I'm glad to see that you use real radios and have access to repeaters. When I'm in remote areas in a vehicle I have a HF mobile as there are many areas without repeaters. When I'm backpacking I carry a big Bendix King, modified to cover the ham bands, while retaining the coverage of the federal natural resource agency frequencies. I am a retired U.S. Forest Service employee and the National Forest I retired from has given me permission to use their system for emergencies and the bordering National Park has done the same. I happen upon emergency incidents at a greater than average rate and in my working days used both the USFS and NPS radio systems while backpacking off duty.
@@wannabetowasabe 4x's get you stuck - Winches on 4x's get you stuck in inaccessible places - GPS lets you to know exactly where you are when you get lost..
Hi Justin, great video. have been watching some of your other videos, and think you are doing a great job. Would I be right in thinking that you are using APRS? We have volunteer groups here in the UK, (I belong to RAYNET) Like you I am a ham (use a Kenwood DM-T710) and use a Land Crusier, but our conditions are very different from yours. I have only had to use my snow chains once in the last 10 years! If you are using APRS, is it IGated? Would like to be able to follow you, say, on APRS.fi?
we are using APRS indeed. it's required on any mission that might be a bit more complex that a quick winch back onto a road. most of the members have CO4X4RNR in their status message, should be searchable.
Great stuff! I heard you mention a switch. I just got a 2009 Jeep Wrangler X and went out in the snow the first time and got stuck with a minute on the hill in front of my house.. I was doing the same thing that red one did. What switch are you talking about? I learned later to turn off the ESP. Is there a better mod for this? Merry Christmas!
i'm not sure on the 09, but on the 12 and up there is an accelerometer under the center console that you wire in a momentary switch to break communication to it. that lights up the dash and all the safety features of traction control are 100% off until you cycle the key. obviously it's dangerous and should be exercised/used with caution. i have a video of mine at th-cam.com/video/XodtmPtAObM/w-d-xo.html
If you’ll permit an old fart to talk like a young fart-You guys are absolutely awesome!! To go out on Christmas Eve to help out a stranger! I hope you guys are still grinning from ear to ear! (I’ll wager you are!) If I may show my ignorance, where was the nearest town from where ya were/are?? What part of the state?? My question isn’t merely to waste your time, lol, “Grandma” & I live in the Midwest, but absolutely LOVE CO. Praying you all had a safe, happy, healthy Merry Christmas!!! 🎅🏻🌲⛄️❄️ 🇺🇸 Grandpa 🇺🇸 Edit:
LOREN Reece To us, it’s truly Gods Country. We were fortunate enough to have taught our children to ski out there. (Steamboat Springs) We still try to get out there, if only for a few days a year. I can no longer ski, but grandma & the kids can and do, god love ‘em! I hope 2019 is exceedingly kind to you and your family!! 🇺🇸 Grandpa 🇺🇸
Got a question y don't you guys use hydraulic winches thar is three guys on the fire department with me that have them 2 are on Jeeps and one on a Mazda pickup with a diesel in it
That's a good question, most vehicles the easiest thing to hook up is electric, and trucks like the power Wagon come factory equipped with electric. Long hard pulls are hard on your battery, but so far I haven't had any problems
For a TJ??? What kind of comment is that? Only difference between a TJ and a JK is power windows LoL. The guy was running baby all terrain tires LoL. Good job guys. I love my TJ Rubicon on Super Swampers!!!!!
living in the sierra nevadas at 4000 feet we deal with a lot of snow and somehow getting a jeep with chains stuck it what does not appear to be even moderately deep conditions leaves me to wonder who are these flatlanders..??
in colorado we have this total crap garbage snow that is powder dry. provides almost no traction. and then when the wind blows it ice crusts over super nasty. once you punch through it you're done for. this particular video the trail is super steep too, so this combined with our total crap snow we get here, makes driving out almost impossible. it's not like the sticky wet snow out west.
Thank you all for going out on Christmas Eve to help people get home to their families! Great work all around
A lot of these trails in the winter don’t look bad in the beginning, given that they lull you into a false sense of security. Before you know it you’re in too deep and in trouble. These guys are saviors.
I really like how you were concerned about not damaging the trees and you kept some humor going. That was a much more organized rescue then some I've watched!
we all have a ton of training from an I4WDTA (International four wheel drive trainers association) trainer here in Colorado. they are priceless skills on how to calculate your pulls, rig recoveries, and execute them safely. a lot of times rigging slips when you begin to put it under load and it doesn't do what you wanted it to. so there there is no reason to tear up the trees, and dragging your $450 winch line across trees and rocks just rips them in half (friction heat). so we take extra care to not damage things, which includes the trees. there's no call for it.
Love your post, thank you! Ok 1970’s , I took a track like yours but at Lake Mountain Aus, solo on at 250cc trail bike, got bogged down in slush, almost to the handle-bars opps! But there was two tyre prints in the snow so I abandoned my vehicle walked a kilometre in knee deep slush and snow to find two nice guys in a two man tent with a Haflinger. These kind guys helped me out! A big thank you Haflinger guys! I was in trouble was saved but WTF was a Haflinger? I had to have one, that happened, I just wish I had kept it !! LesC.
Very cool that Y'all do this, and for free as a public service. Much respect!
You guys show a LOT of patience and compassion.
I was looking forward to a solo overlanding trip to Colorado this winter, while that looked like fun, I think this southern boy is gonna wait till spring.
lots of trail here that stays open year round with minimal snow! aside from the cold temps you'd be ok.
Great video, very educational for others to see this in action. Very cool that you went up on Christmas eve to help.
I don't live in Colorado but watching these is a great learning tool for being prepared here in the Texas Hill Country which can have some nasty rock crawling trails as evidenced by all the beat up crawlers here.
Don't get snow but we do have some super slick granite specially when just damp.
Learn from others then learn how to deal with stuff when things do go south.
Great work guys! I actually went to hit that trail a week before Christmas but decided to turn around. Glad I did!
AMAZING. You guys are awesome going up there on Christmas to help out a fellow wheeler. Cheers and Merry Christmas to you all!
Dude I love all of your recovery videos!! I feel like I’m right there with you lol
Thanks for doing what you do. Colorado 4x4 strong!
Chains make all the difference, I picked up 2 sets of 3/8 v - bar’s and it was some of the best money I’ve spent.
Outstanding video and rescue! We havent had a good snow here in Southeast Missouri in a very long time! Be safe you all!
Watch this channel is about to blow up with alot of subscribers.
You guys are great. Thanks for not killing the mountain lions.
Good team work, nice to see people helping each other. Glad you all had good weather.
Yet another great recovery. Thanks for the upload
Cannot beat chains on all fours in snow/ice conditions. Well Done.
Well, if I ever get my FJC stuck and need help on some of those Colorado back country 4WD trails, I know who I'm gonna call, and it won't be ghost busters! Unselfish way to spend Christmas eve! Thanks for the work y'all do!! BTW, does your organization get any funding help from CORSAR?
those get stuck all the time 🤣
Very well organized group. Happy Holidays.
i enjoy your videos and technical rescues. i used to live in longmont and had to move to ohio. how i long for the rocky mountains.
awesome, met you guys when you came to winterpark couple weeks ago to recover my bro's Toyota. I was the guy with the big Cherokee waiting at the recovery site.
Merry Christmas! Be nice to run into you on the trail as long as it's not being hooked to your recovery strap! Think I did if you remember passing a black XJ while pulling someone down from mount baldy🤔
i don't think i've personally been on that mountain but i'm sure many of the team have!
Justin King great job! Miss my CO4x4 community! (Jefe)
Glad to know you guys still have each other’s backs!! Maybe next time I come out to CO we can do a a fox and the hound meet up for old times! We’ll have to get Val, Tiff and others back in town too!! - Jeff S.
@@JustinKingOffroad how do I find out about becoming part of your group?
@@richfarfugnuven6308 www.co4x4rnr.org and near top right there is a membership section. thanks!!
What a interesting place to be. That is a beautiful spot but dangerous when deep snow.
Two sets of chains are your best friends, I never wait till I'm in trouble before I chain up.
a lot of times here in Colorado you can power through a spot and not need chains, the added wear and tear on the vehicle if you have to gas it hard with chains on is risky breaking axle shafts.
@@JustinKingOffroad Interesting reply. I'm retired so most of the time I don't go out when it snows. Back in the old day I had a Land Rover 88. When I was on the ambulance I would often chain up in my driveway before it snowed and be ready if we had a call. In 14 years I never broke an axle or got stuck even in two feet of snow with ice underneath. It does add a small amount of wear and tear, but most of the time if it got really bad. I'd put the transfer case in low and keep on trucking without having to gun it or push it hard. I know LR's are noted for breaking axles. When I was logging I drove a skidder and we never took the chains off that.
Enjoyed your video. Love Colorado. Thank you.
wish co didnt have so many anti gun retards!!!
NOTE: when winching, block the winching vehicle with rocks, DO NOT, repeat DO NOT RELY ON JUST THE VEHICLE BRAKES TO HOLD VEHICLE (ya really dont want to blow out brakes out, voice of experience) rocks in front of wheels, tie back off to a tree or something solid. PS I said this before he got to the winching vehicle
Chains: we would make our chains out of worn worn out grader chains. for real HD attachment deflate your tires a bit, put chains on as absolute tight as you can and re-inflate the tires.
Most impressive thank you for sharing
I love what you guys are doing together on the “hills” for those in need.
For what ever it’s worth, the drone footage was nice but having no sound made it feel dead (it depended on what you want to do one your channel). You could add some music there to add some body to the effort you are already putting in.
Good onya!
yeah with youtube being so aggressive on copyright violations, i left this one silent. but i have found a royalty free site for some semi-decent music. moving forward i'll probably do that.
Justin King Awesome. Great work, man!
thank you, I'm a power wagon owner/fan . great video, thanks
When we need the heavy lifting done, the power wagons come play!
If you have an old power wagon with pto winch you would have needed any help!!!!!
man, you are all about the negativity, why are you so miserable?
Good work & nice filming!
My old 1978 cj7 with 38" monster mudrs would have went thru that easily..unstoppable
Merry Christmas. Good job
Very cool organization! Nice job with an obvious tough job in the snow, ice and cold...I'm a city guy; I love the wilderness and drive a 4X4 but screw that going onto steep mountain trails in wet or snow!...Luckily we don't have mountains in philly...:)
It's a shame how people inconvenience others with their foolhardiness....Know where you're going and prepare for the trip...
THEN STAY IN THE CITY SLICK CUZ OUT HERE IN COLORADO WE ARE NOT AFRAID to go out and ENJOY
@@CORNDODGER hahahaha
Nice job. Looked like a lot of fun.
Just found this awesome channel. subbed
Nice job! That power wagon was pretty sweet
he's got a nice rig for sure! when we need heavy lifting done we bring in the power wagons! we though for sure that final hill was going to need that truck to winch up both jeeps.
Merry Christmas !
Great video, thank you!
For my own curiosity and for future reference, would it be possible to include more info? Like temps, approximate snow depth, how or if rescued and rescue vehicles are outfitted, i.e., tire size and brand, lockers, etc. Thanks for your service!
That power wagon seems pretty cool.
Next time you do this you should listen to an EXPERT....ME!
Hook the pulled car to rear trailer hitch. This will push it instead of pull. It will be pushing the rear down giving the pulled car more traction. Same thing for the pulling car.( from winch under and out from back. That will also pull down the pulling car.
alot more snow there this year. also he mentioned traps? where do you get a cage big enough for a mountain lion? i wish we could use footholds out here. if you guys ever need anything scouted or help this way let me know
Nice work boys, looks like fun
Pickle Gulch....don't think I would have given this a go with the current conditions.... I don't think he knew what he was getting in to.
Part of the fb page and at some point I wanna be apart of the recoveries
Awsome! Subscribed! Didnt know you had a channel. Would like to partake (so I can learn) some day in helping with a recovery.
We would love to have you on the team!! Visit www.co4x4rnr.org for info!
Wow the snow doesn’t look that bad to be getting stuck like that. Must be some bad ass snow. Crazy.
The video does a good job of hiding just how steep that hill actually was. I was sucking for air pretty good and I am a regular hiker and jogger at elevation. there's not much you can do when you have to come up a 10 to 12% grade with 12 to 18 in of powder dry snow on it.
I have watched several of your recovery videos and must say it is nice to know people like you and the other volunteers are out there helping others when in need. I am a member of an atv/utv club here in the Denver/ springs area and we had been thinking of doing a winching or rescue/recovering training seminar for other club members. With your expertise in using a winch would this be something you would be interested in, showing proper and safe winching practices?
honestly i'd love to, but there is someone much more experienced that does this for a living. He trained us, and is one of the few I4WDTA trainers in the USA. Matt Balazs of "on trail training" is fantastic. We have all taken multiple of his courses. reach out to him at www.ontrailtraining.com/ he'd be a much better person for that kind of training.
I will look into him, thank you and happy holidays.
Great video
Thank you for calling the nanny state help line : to report the use of plastic straws press one . Just kidding great job!
You guys rock!!! How i would love to be a team member!!! I could do that work all day lol..... I need to move to Colorado one day
Looks like fun, I have yet to go play in the snow. I should stop playing on the desert rocks and go up North and try the snow. Looks like I should get some snow chains just in case LoL. From sunny Arizona.
Just be careful on the north slopes. If they go down hill quickly even chains struggle.
Not to tell you guys how to do your job but us truck drivers use bungees on the outside of the tires in order to not allow the chains to go to the inside of the tire and wraparound anyting it also helps keep them titer I don't know if you guys have tried that or know about it.
I do see spider bungies on the red jeep
Good job. Glad to see people helping people. I noticed the chains on the red jk wasn't using the cam tensioners, instead using the bungee tensioners. Just wondering why? Cam tensioners work extremely well. You can get them so tight they'll never come off unless they break.
i think he was using both.
They were definitely in the open or loose position. Maybe on an aired down tire you would want flex in the chain which the bungie would allow. When they're tight they're silent, even at speed. The rescued jeeps chain were extremely loose "noisy". That's why they fell off. I'm also from Colorado-Arvada.. I have an 05 TJ which I also like lending a hand when people are in need .Enjoy... Thanks for the reply.
Ok, you brought a drone...shit just got serious...LOL. Great work. You take it to the next "level"....
and i hold a part 107 remote SUAS license to use it!! woo!!
Justin King Thanks for your commitment to being a legitimate member of the aviation community!
yessir!! i'm going to use it for SAR and video production. it's a fantastic course to take and pass, learned a lot.
No trees were harmed during this video!
I have a jk wrangler unlimited and I understood there was some conflict with the settings for the brakes and the modes being used, but I didn't comprehend the exact nature of the problem and you didn't show the buttons being used to fix it, so I didn't learn the problem or how to fix it...
Search my channel for disable BLD. I have a couple on the problem. Basically the locker does not tell the canbus to not ride your brakes for traction aid. So you get them really hot and they squeak. And on a manual trans you really feel the loss of power.
Thanks for the job well done and the vids! Good to see recovery gear in use effectively. Where do you find tire chains for 35s?
I sourced mine from tirechains.com with no issue!
Let me clarify my comment about too much air pressure. If you air down you don't need chains. Chains are for farmers who are trying to get to their mail box. Try going down to zero psi some time and get on top of the snow.
yes sir!! i have bead locks and as soon as we get some decent wet snow here i'm going to do exactly that. i need to experiment with it.
Merry Christmas! Joined the team but havent been out yet. I really want to photograph the team doing there stuff.
Sweet!!
Question. The BLD why would it in gauge with lockers on. I dont have lockers just truetrac front and back. Question 2 how do you disable the BLD in case i run in to this.
why jeep doesn't engineer the two systems to talk to each other is beyond me. disabling it can be done through the canbus or accelerometer under the center console with a momentary switch.
I'm sorry if I missed it or if it's been addressed but do any of you run a mile marker /hydraulic winch? Wouldn't that be easier on the rigs on the long pulls?
Is the team accepting new members?
Always!
GREAT JOB GUYS,!
Great work helping people out. Being new to off-road snow driving I wanted to ask a question about this recovery. In your opinion do you think this individual could have gotten out it he had a second set of chains for the front wheels, assuming the rear chains were his, and had a winch with a few tow straps for self recovery?
absolutely. the chains were borrowed from our team members, and had he had a winch (and chains) this could have been self recovered. granted it was A LOT of work. to do this alone would have been all day of rigging and re-rigging pulls to get back up the hill. at some point you'd just get exhausted.
Thanks for the feed back.
@@JustinKingOffroad
Pickle Gulch, aptly named.
Just curious I'm a little new to the recovery game. What was the reason for the snatch block you positioned in the middle. Why not just winch?
We wanted to protect the line on the slight corner we had to make, that kept it off a tree further down.
Happy New Year Justin. Hope you'll be on the holler happy new year net.
Never thought of a snow blower as a useful piece of recovery equipment, except if someone is in a 'pickle'.....
Does anyone get caught with a trailer or are not allowed
That would be great if you caught sasquatch footage with the drone.lol
Very cool vid.
I don't why jeep does a lot of shit. 48 Willys 302 with a 4;88 rear end and Dana's front and back never gets stopped like driving a tractor in a field, slow on the road but guts when ya need it.
Oh dang. So how do you disable bld with lockers on? Just holding the traction control button work?
There are a couple ways it seems. I wired in an interrupt switch by my shifter, but the red Jeep has a computer module to disable it which I didn't realize was possible actually.
Was there a limited -slip in the front axle of the TJ? Tru-Trac?
honestly am not sure, believe it was totally stock.
Good recovery
Was the Jeep on it's way out of the trail? I've run pickle gulch just trying to determine where he slid.
about a mile in there is a right turn that drops downhill steep and dead ends. that is where it was.
What is this “BLD off” fun mode you speak of?? I need to know how to do this on my Trailhawk.
it is a canbus over-ride to shut all the government required traction control aids off. i have an interrupt switch on mine, and the red jeep has a module in the aeroforce gauge that does it.
The BLD in the wrangler is FAR more refined than my Trailhawk... Mine is extremely abrupt and will often completely stop the vehicle. I’m not aware of any aftermarket support to accomplish what you’ve done for my Cherokee....
How did the owner make contact? Did he walk out?
there is actually cell service at this exact spot. bouncing in from central city i think.
Wheres a good place to buy snow chains for 35in tires?
i got mine from tirechains.com they seem to be decently priced.
What kind of boots you guys wearing? I have ECCO's
not sure about everyone else, but i had on vasque. and when it gets really cold... can't go wrong with sorels.
Do you get paid for this type of thing? Or just some sort of vigilante?
we are a 501c3 non profit organization with multiple relationships with government agencies. sheriff's offices, SAR teams, emergency managers, etc.
I'm living just outside of Grand Junction for a while how do I become a part of this I want to help
we need a west slope presence in the organization!! visit www.co4x4rnr.org for info.
did he have chains on when he got stuck?
no
Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck at least four times as bad in far more remote places.
Did I hear some ham radio call signs? What type of radio were you using, ham or GMRS/FRS?
we are all ham licensed yes.
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks, I'm a ham and licensed to be one also! Too many off highway, four wheel drive groups rely on CB or bubble pack FRS/GMRS. I'm glad to see that you use real radios and have access to repeaters. When I'm in remote areas in a vehicle I have a HF mobile as there are many areas without repeaters.
When I'm backpacking I carry a big Bendix King, modified to cover the ham bands, while retaining the coverage of the federal natural resource agency frequencies. I am a retired U.S. Forest Service employee and the National Forest I retired from has given me permission to use their system for emergencies and the bordering National Park has done the same. I happen upon emergency incidents at a greater than average rate and in my working days used both the USFS and NPS radio systems while backpacking off duty.
@@wannabetowasabe
4x's get you stuck - Winches on 4x's get you stuck in inaccessible places - GPS lets you to know exactly where you are when you get lost..
thats why my dad refused to buy a 4x4...just get stuck in worst places...RIP
Hi Justin, great video. have been watching some of your other videos, and think you are doing a great job. Would I be right in thinking that you are using APRS? We have volunteer groups here in the UK, (I belong to RAYNET) Like you I am a ham (use a Kenwood DM-T710) and use a Land Crusier, but our conditions are very different from yours. I have only had to use my snow chains once in the last 10 years! If you are using APRS, is it IGated? Would like to be able to follow you, say, on APRS.fi?
we are using APRS indeed. it's required on any mission that might be a bit more complex that a quick winch back onto a road. most of the members have CO4X4RNR in their status message, should be searchable.
Thanks, found some of you. Good luck in 2019!
Great stuff! I heard you mention a switch. I just got a 2009 Jeep Wrangler X and went out in the snow the first time and got stuck with a minute on the hill in front of my house.. I was doing the same thing that red one did. What switch are you talking about? I learned later to turn off the ESP. Is there a better mod for this? Merry Christmas!
i'm not sure on the 09, but on the 12 and up there is an accelerometer under the center console that you wire in a momentary switch to break communication to it. that lights up the dash and all the safety features of traction control are 100% off until you cycle the key. obviously it's dangerous and should be exercised/used with caution. i have a video of mine at th-cam.com/video/XodtmPtAObM/w-d-xo.html
YEP!!! sell your JEEP!!!
If you’ll permit an old fart to talk like a young fart-You guys are absolutely awesome!!
To go out on Christmas Eve to help out a stranger! I hope you guys are still grinning from ear to ear! (I’ll wager you are!)
If I may show my ignorance, where was the nearest town from where ya were/are?? What part of the state?? My question isn’t merely to waste your time, lol, “Grandma” & I live in the Midwest, but absolutely LOVE CO.
Praying you all had a safe, happy, healthy Merry Christmas!!! 🎅🏻🌲⛄️❄️
🇺🇸 Grandpa 🇺🇸
Edit:
i believe the closest town was Central City, CO. about 30 minutes west of Denver, CO.
I guess around Loveland or FT Collins CO. I know Justin. I am sure it was more fun than work :-)
I run this trail in my UTV in the summer. Can't imagine running it in that much snow. Good work guys.
Addy's Grandpa, this Gma & Gpa love CO. as well. Lake City and Ouray our favorite places to visit.
LOREN Reece
To us, it’s truly Gods Country. We were fortunate enough to have taught our children to ski out there. (Steamboat Springs) We still try to get out there, if only for a few days a year. I can no longer ski, but grandma & the kids can and do, god love ‘em! I hope 2019 is exceedingly kind to you and your family!!
🇺🇸 Grandpa 🇺🇸
Where in Colorado is this? We live in between Florissant, Colorado and Cripple Creek, Colorado.
this trail is north of central city and south of rollinsville
Got a question y don't you guys use hydraulic winches thar is three guys on the fire department with me that have them 2 are on Jeeps and one on a Mazda pickup with a diesel in it
That's a good question, most vehicles the easiest thing to hook up is electric, and trucks like the power Wagon come factory equipped with electric. Long hard pulls are hard on your battery, but so far I haven't had any problems
Very stupid for him to run solo without the ability for self recovery but if he did then you wouldn’t have video for us to watch.
What chains do you guys recommend?
If you have clearance for them, v-bar are amazing. Otherwise any good ol chain is better than none.
Get some Matt Tracks
i have some red ones on order!
For a TJ??? What kind of comment is that? Only difference between a TJ and a JK is power windows LoL. The guy was running baby all terrain tires LoL. Good job guys.
I love my TJ Rubicon on Super Swampers!!!!!
I don't think that TJ was a Rubicon, those were d30 front axles.
@@JustinKingOffroad I'm Shure that jeep was not a Rubicon 👍
why good for a tj?
open diff rig.
living in the sierra nevadas at 4000 feet we deal with a lot of snow and somehow getting a jeep with chains stuck it what does not appear to be even moderately deep conditions leaves me to wonder who are these flatlanders..??
in colorado we have this total crap garbage snow that is powder dry. provides almost no traction. and then when the wind blows it ice crusts over super nasty. once you punch through it you're done for. this particular video the trail is super steep too, so this combined with our total crap snow we get here, makes driving out almost impossible. it's not like the sticky wet snow out west.
Great job
No winch damper?
not needed on synthetic line. you can if you want, but the failure force is linear and it drops right to the ground.