You should test it against the kymron xh42. It’s a same class same price point. Very curious because there randomly found both and am interested for price point.
The Bobcat is an Extendahoe configuration, which is heavier. The Bobcat Extendahoe does not appear to be scoped in all the way either, which negatively impacts lift capability.
Looks to me like you have the chain hooked up at a lower point when doing the test with the groundhog, therefore giving the groundhog more leverage than you did with the bobcat
Hello, thanks for your comment. I've analyzed this video numerous times and I'm really not sure what you're referencing. The chains are connected to both buckets the same way and hooked up to the machines exactly the same. We're certainly not trying to cheat anything here and even Nick was surprised that the GroundHog did better than the Bobcat.
It's no big deal. In the end I expected the groundhog to lift more anyway. Clearly in the video it does show that where the geometry of the arm and the bucket was placed between the two machines was not the same. And also the mechanism by which the groundhog lifted the mini skid steer was different than what was attempted on the bobcat. But clearly I would agree that the groundhog was the stronger machine.
I see what you mean about the arm extension, so I'll agree with you on that one. Thanks for pointing it out! Nick has been trying to do the comparison videos in the most accurate way possible, so I'll pass this feedback to him. We appreciate you watching!
@@groundhogequipment Oh ok. I thought in the video you mentioned one in SC opening. I looking for a unit to use to clear out undergrowth either trees up to about 10 inches diameter.
I'm all for comparisons; in fact everyone is, but you gotta take care of the details to make it even. Even that throttle not being at 100%. Why? Put them both at 100. Use the same weights. If it beats the bobby, even by a smidge, then awesome.
It probably does beat the bobcat, but it is always hard to come up with a specific fair comparison. 2 brand new machines setup exactly the same, fine. The bobcat has the extension boom which is going to be a few hundred pounds heavier, so who knows. Put a few hundred hours on each, is the pressure exactly adjusted to spec since the pump has worn in a bit? A good approach would be using a load cell to measure the force in each orientation.
Hello Nick, i have recently started shopping for an excavator and have realized that im in california where the machines sold are prodominately large name brands. Im very interested in speaking with you and will be calling soon in hopes I xan make the right purchase. I do appreciate the fact that youre very transparent and have said that your machines may not be the best option for everyone. I really want an honest opinion and hopefully contacting you guys will help me with my purchase direction.
Nick, I appreciate that you're continuing to expand the dealer network. However, I don't have a lot of confidence in my local dealer. Oh, I'm sure they're very capable of servicing Groundhog machines as they are an auto repair shop (although diesel experience might be questionable), they have no units in stock. Being able to actually see, touch, & demo is huge. Additionally, their web site doesn't acknowledge being a Groundhog dealer until you visit their inventory page. There, at the very bottom of that page, you will find specs on what must be a xx14G (the actual model(s) is not mentioned) and only the 14G. No other Groundhogs are mentioned to include other excavators, loaders, rollers, or mini dumpers.
Hello, sorry to hear you're experiencing something negative with one of our dealers. You're always welcome to shop directly through us or go to a different dealer. We're always looking to add new dealers so maybe we'll have another near you soon!
@@groundhogequipment thanks I have a bobcat 325 I’m going to sale soon and I’m stepping down alittle bit it weighs 6600 and change I’m going to get something in the range of 3 to 4000 lb Thanks and hopefully I’ll be able to get a groundHog in a few months or so.
@@groundhogequipment thank you and I appreciate you getting back in touch with me I will definitely give you guys a call after I sale my mini-X. I’ve been looking at different options for a year or more and groundhog seems to be what I’m leaning towards. Thanks again have a great weekend
You should test it against the kymron xh42. It’s a same class same price point. Very curious because there randomly found both and am interested for price point.
The Bobcat is an Extendahoe configuration, which is heavier. The Bobcat Extendahoe does not appear to be scoped in all the way either, which negatively impacts lift capability.
Thats a great unit. Thanks for the info. I have all kinds of use for a machine like that.
Looks to me like you have the chain hooked up at a lower point when doing the test with the groundhog, therefore giving the groundhog more leverage than you did with the bobcat
Hello, thanks for your comment. I've analyzed this video numerous times and I'm really not sure what you're referencing. The chains are connected to both buckets the same way and hooked up to the machines exactly the same. We're certainly not trying to cheat anything here and even Nick was surprised that the GroundHog did better than the Bobcat.
It's no big deal. In the end I expected the groundhog to lift more anyway.
Clearly in the video it does show that where the geometry of the arm and the bucket was placed between the two machines was not the same. And also the mechanism by which the groundhog lifted the mini skid steer was different than what was attempted on the bobcat. But clearly I would agree that the groundhog was the stronger machine.
I see what you mean about the arm extension, so I'll agree with you on that one. Thanks for pointing it out! Nick has been trying to do the comparison videos in the most accurate way possible, so I'll pass this feedback to him. We appreciate you watching!
@@groundhogequipment no worries. I enjoy your videos
Also where is the Alabama dealers located
23129 fifth ave, Florala, AL
334-428-3628
China
What is the aux flow rate on the 40?
Where is the dealer in South Carolina located?
We don't currently have a dealer in SC closest would be CCB Equipment in Winston-Salem, NC or J&S Equipment in McMinnville, TN
@@groundhogequipment Oh ok. I thought in the video you mentioned one in SC opening. I looking for a unit to use to clear out undergrowth either trees up to about 10 inches diameter.
I'm all for comparisons; in fact everyone is, but you gotta take care of the details to make it even.
Even that throttle not being at 100%. Why? Put them both at 100. Use the same weights.
If it beats the bobby, even by a smidge, then awesome.
It probably does beat the bobcat, but it is always hard to come up with a specific fair comparison. 2 brand new machines setup exactly the same, fine. The bobcat has the extension boom which is going to be a few hundred pounds heavier, so who knows. Put a few hundred hours on each, is the pressure exactly adjusted to spec since the pump has worn in a bit? A good approach would be using a load cell to measure the force in each orientation.
do u have dealers around iowa?
not currently, we're working to expand our network of dealers this year
closest would be GroundHog of Wisconsin 262-501-3655 in Caledonia, WI or Oliver Equipment Sales 573-579-7833 in Cape Girardeau, MO
@@groundhogequipment thank you!
Hello Nick, i have recently started shopping for an excavator and have realized that im in california where the machines sold are prodominately large name brands. Im very interested in speaking with you and will be calling soon in hopes I xan make the right purchase. I do appreciate the fact that youre very transparent and have said that your machines may not be the best option for everyone.
I really want an honest opinion and hopefully contacting you guys will help me with my purchase direction.
Thanks, reach out anytime at 570-837-1003
Nick, I appreciate that you're continuing to expand the dealer network. However, I don't have a lot of confidence in my local dealer. Oh, I'm sure they're very capable of servicing Groundhog machines as they are an auto repair shop (although diesel experience might be questionable), they have no units in stock. Being able to actually see, touch, & demo is huge. Additionally, their web site doesn't acknowledge being a Groundhog dealer until you visit their inventory page. There, at the very bottom of that page, you will find specs on what must be a xx14G (the actual model(s) is not mentioned) and only the 14G. No other Groundhogs are mentioned to include other excavators, loaders, rollers, or mini dumpers.
Hello, sorry to hear you're experiencing something negative with one of our dealers. You're always welcome to shop directly through us or go to a different dealer. We're always looking to add new dealers so maybe we'll have another near you soon!
@@groundhogequipmenthow do you become a dealer
I would pick the 20 year old bobcat over 10 of the Chinese machines .
Where’s the closest dealer to middle Georgia
We're in the process of adding more dealers in the south, but right now the closest is in North Carolina.
@@groundhogequipment thanks I have a bobcat 325 I’m going to sale soon and I’m stepping down alittle bit it weighs 6600 and change I’m going to get something in the range of 3 to 4000 lb
Thanks and hopefully I’ll be able to get a groundHog in a few months or so.
If you have any questions or need any help throughout your search, we're always a phone call, text message, or email away. Thanks!
@@groundhogequipment thank you and I appreciate you getting back in touch with me I will definitely give you guys a call after I sale my mini-X. I’ve been looking at different options for a year or more and groundhog seems to be what I’m leaning towards. Thanks again have a great weekend
Hes buying a container of these for 10 k each and selling for 40k each
It’s a shell yes, but the engine and parts are what make a machine not the shell
@@deweybewey junk
Unfair comparison. Obviously, groundhog will win in these videos. Hes gotta sell them chinese machinese somehow.