tbf they mostly buffed the anti crit/anti auto attack defence items because of the hunter/crit meta while also taking ALOT of protections away from Thebes. I do not think adding some flat prots to items will cancel out the pretty large percent based nerf bacchus is getting. its not like hes getting % mit from these new item buffs
No, not even close lol He's going from 140% prot scaling on his kit to 80% in one rotation. And it's not like EVERY tank item is getting buffed, just the shitty ones that he wouldn't even be buying anyway are getting buffed. Thebes and Amanita Charm, the ones Bacchus was ACTUALLY BUYING EVERY GAME are getting nerfed.
Honestly, Ares is F tier imo strictly because of the talisman of purification. My first ever game as Support i was playing Athena and looking at the items the game got me with auto buy. When i saw the talisman of purification and realized i was playing into an Ares I giggled so damn hard. I hit 2 or 3 puri's for my entire team and the Ares got blown up as a result every single time.
Finally seeing some love for Odin! I saw some tier lists where he was put pretty low, but he's definitely not that bad! Been playing him as support and I'm having a blast
Most of the mages feel really meh imo. Especially compared to Neith mid. I think that there are two reasons for this. First is that the t2 int items give almost no intelligence. The second is that every god has inherent strength scaling.
The problem is that - as you said - neith has a better early game due to the strength scaling, so she will out trade in mid just because she's physical, and on top of that she also transitions into the late game way too well and is just as good as any late game mage, which feels awful when you've spent half the game being useless as a normal mage.
Hades will struggle as long as they continue to refuse to give him significant consistent damage outside of being an ult bot, because his 3 does piss for damage
Neith is still going to be really good. I have intentionally not been building the trans/book build on her because I knew it was getting nerfed and I still just stomp every game with her.
Anhur clears Fenrir and its not even close. His brutalize brakes when you jump, you can impale him and debuff with obelisk. Only time he can win is if he has ultimate and thats it.
I think Zeus has a lot more potential than he's showing right now... but at the same time, he kinda deserves D tier. In a comp setting you're probably never picking him above the contenders in any role. but he's NOT useless, could probably use some kit tweaks though to either give his abilities some strength scaling for him to be more viable in ADC, or maybe just better INT+attack speed items. Or just a tiny bit of pazzazz, just one little feature added to his kit could potentially just really give him a spot to excel in.
I've been playing Bellona solo and I think she is a lot better than I initially gave her credit for. You just have to lean more into damage with her. I've been building Devos on her and just stomping with her. Then I just focus adc characters in team fights.
Enjoying that Zeus 3 man, love how he feels for me , but Sol is calling me heavy lol, that crit is insane Feels like Zeus shines heavily in team fights depending on who’s there like ares or hades
I know that no TH-camrs agree with this opinion, but I swear Athena is a really solid support - same tier as Ymir and Ares. Her ult + taunt are just really useful abilities despite all of the nerfs carrying over from Smite 1, and she doesn’t have the obvious weakness that Ares and Ymir have with poor movement. She is a lower pressure god compared to the other three supports, but only slightly imho.
I feel like Loki is a terrible god to put in the game rn… pub stomp gods should be moved to the back of the list to give new players a opportunity to learn without getting completely punished… the amount of 20+ kill lokis I see is obscene. You’re not good people are just new and it’s bad for the health of the game.
Anhur has a cc imune ult and much better self peel than cern. Bizarre take saying cern is better in every way. Think you might be valuing pro league too much. Unless this is a pro league tier list. What's good in pro league usually doesn't translate 1 to 1 in ranked and casual
They nerfed bacchus prot scaling but they are increasing the prots on a lot of core tank items so he remains close to the same, still absurdly OP imo
Yea I was thinking about that lol nerf the god buffed his items lol
Removing 30% prot scaling and buffing tankiness will not even be close.. What???
tbf they mostly buffed the anti crit/anti auto attack defence items because of the hunter/crit meta while also taking ALOT of protections away from Thebes. I do not think adding some flat prots to items will cancel out the pretty large percent based nerf bacchus is getting. its not like hes getting % mit from these new item buffs
I mean technically that just means he reaches that point a bit later but yeah he needs another nerf
No, not even close lol
He's going from 140% prot scaling on his kit to 80% in one rotation. And it's not like EVERY tank item is getting buffed, just the shitty ones that he wouldn't even be buying anyway are getting buffed. Thebes and Amanita Charm, the ones Bacchus was ACTUALLY BUYING EVERY GAME are getting nerfed.
23:21 she has aoe autos after her 3 not her ult; her ult gives her very long range autos
Anubis suffers from Int life-steal items being dogwater
Honestly, Ares is F tier imo strictly because of the talisman of purification. My first ever game as Support i was playing Athena and looking at the items the game got me with auto buy. When i saw the talisman of purification and realized i was playing into an Ares I giggled so damn hard. I hit 2 or 3 puri's for my entire team and the Ares got blown up as a result every single time.
Finally seeing some love for Odin! I saw some tier lists where he was put pretty low, but he's definitely not that bad! Been playing him as support and I'm having a blast
Of course it took Paul & Sheento playing Hecate for everyone to realize she was broken
Most of the mages feel really meh imo. Especially compared to Neith mid.
I think that there are two reasons for this. First is that the t2 int items give almost no intelligence. The second is that every god has inherent strength scaling.
The problem is that - as you said - neith has a better early game due to the strength scaling, so she will out trade in mid just because she's physical, and on top of that she also transitions into the late game way too well and is just as good as any late game mage, which feels awful when you've spent half the game being useless as a normal mage.
Hades will struggle as long as they continue to refuse to give him significant consistent damage outside of being an ult bot, because his 3 does piss for damage
@@DIsturbios1234 he can’t even burst as much as he used to as one of his key items poly is different compared to smite 1
Neith is still going to be really good. I have intentionally not been building the trans/book build on her because I knew it was getting nerfed and I still just stomp every game with her.
If you check the patch notes again, they added more post playtest balance changes at the bottom, including minor Sol nerfs
Fenrir is only s+ bc the gods in the game rn don’t fully counter. When gods like artio and Poseidon gets added then fenrir will be bumped down.
Athena.
Yeah but I hope that they eventually make his three cripple immune. I hope they change how cripples work actually
Anhur clears Fenrir and its not even close. His brutalize brakes when you jump, you can impale him and debuff with obelisk. Only time he can win is if he has ultimate and thats it.
@@Calaman228 … if anhur doesn’t have jump then he just dies to fenrir. All he can do is sit there and wait for him to stop brutalizing him
@@Calaman228 you can’t push back the fenrir with the 2 as he’s immune to displacement cc
I think Zeus has a lot more potential than he's showing right now... but at the same time, he kinda deserves D tier. In a comp setting you're probably never picking him above the contenders in any role. but he's NOT useless, could probably use some kit tweaks though to either give his abilities some strength scaling for him to be more viable in ADC, or maybe just better INT+attack speed items. Or just a tiny bit of pazzazz, just one little feature added to his kit could potentially just really give him a spot to excel in.
Ama is busted ppl just dont know how to build her
I've been playing Bellona solo and I think she is a lot better than I initially gave her credit for. You just have to lean more into damage with her. I've been building Devos on her and just stomping with her. Then I just focus adc characters in team fights.
Might have to try this the hapis item dosent do me to bad for trading but the int stat dosent do me much good on her
@@jaqtsonfromthemist it's okay, but I think Qin's is better for damaging tanks. I also like being able to build Spectral or Ankh on her.
Enjoying that Zeus 3 man, love how he feels for me , but Sol is calling me heavy lol, that crit is insane
Feels like Zeus shines heavily in team fights depending on who’s there like ares or hades
I’m glad Paul was able to showcase what Hecate is capable of and she’s getting the love!!
24:30 crit strength isn’t getting nerfed? Isn’t crit getting gutted?
I know that no TH-camrs agree with this opinion, but I swear Athena is a really solid support - same tier as Ymir and Ares. Her ult + taunt are just really useful abilities despite all of the nerfs carrying over from Smite 1, and she doesn’t have the obvious weakness that Ares and Ymir have with poor movement. She is a lower pressure god compared to the other three supports, but only slightly imho.
I got with Athena Solo to Gold, you can play her in Jngl Solo or Tank and she is easy to play and hard to master
@@Bradleah Athena is actually not bad it’s just her cooldowns are long
So glad I stuck with Odin… people kept putting him in C or just lower tier.
LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE WRONG ALL ALONG! ALMOST DIAMOND ODIN!! HAHAHA
I think bellona need her abilities to scales with prot cause you cant build dmg and she miss some core items from smite 1
Ah, so it was you in that Medusa's deathmatch :P
Nah no cap Athena jungle is absolutely CRACKED my guy, A tier for sure, only thing holding her back is cooldowns lmao
What’s the build on this? I haven’t seen anyone do that it sounds hilarious
@@gudboic1208 solodoubleJ put out a video today or yesterday
I feel like Loki is a terrible god to put in the game rn… pub stomp gods should be moved to the back of the list to give new players a opportunity to learn without getting completely punished… the amount of 20+ kill lokis I see is obscene. You’re not good people are just new and it’s bad for the health of the game.
Nah we need more pub stomp gods they should add arachne, bakasura and ao kuang next 😊
@@mrdhong2143 all those gods need full kit reworks
11 minutes ago is criminal
Agreed
No shit zeus is worse. They remove his consistency and give him a stun which you can't get without consistency. Prob the only god nerfed for smite 2.
I thought hec was low A high B
Naw dude Loki is broken af A+ for sure
This tierlist is so wack.
Anhur has a cc imune ult and much better self peel than cern. Bizarre take saying cern is better in every way. Think you might be valuing pro league too much. Unless this is a pro league tier list. What's good in pro league usually doesn't translate 1 to 1 in ranked and casual
Hecate S+ yea this is a pro league tierlist. Hecate is not S in ranked and casual
Where's Freya at?
First
Hecate is trash lmao