A Conversation with Geek Gamers (solo RPG Friday)

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  • @GeekGamers01
    @GeekGamers01 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Tha is for having me on your channel, Daniel! It was so fun and I hope we can do this again sometime.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I hope so too! I had a lot of fun chatting. I hope people enjoy it.

  • @blackoathentertainment5617
    @blackoathentertainment5617 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Two of my favorite Internet people together, this is awesome.

  • @johnberry5296
    @johnberry5296 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    NO WAY! THE DREAM TEAM!

  • @kurtthecat3995
    @kurtthecat3995 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Two of my favorite solo RPGers.

  • @davidweisberger3915
    @davidweisberger3915 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Daniel, you're crushing it with these team-ups.

  • @JoeBardales
    @JoeBardales ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is like the All-Star Game for Solo RPGs!

  • @dpcaw
    @dpcaw ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was an absolute dream come true.:) Would be even better if you two collaborate on some sort of gameplay in the future. That would be a total blast and will break the internet lol

  • @Runey676
    @Runey676 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently found your channel and was excited to see this interview, great conversation!
    You should try to get Trevor on from Me, Myself, and Die. He elegantly uses the Mythic fate chart and chaos factor quite often. He mainly uses them as tools with other systems.

  • @karlozfandango7921
    @karlozfandango7921 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m 2 minutes in and I’m already smiling. A perfect Friday thank you. ❤️ you both and hope the double magic is a ongoing thing…

  • @therealdrayton
    @therealdrayton ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Everything is playing." Wow, that really resonated with me. Just a few weeks ago I was talking to a friend and telling him that I think I might be more interested in game mechanics and game design than actually playing games. Like both of you, I've spent more time reading the rules of games and imagining the gameplay in my head rather than actually playing them. Makes me feel a little bit better about the amount of money I spend on games I've read the rules to that I haven't actually played. 😅Great video.

  • @dnfsdnfs
    @dnfsdnfs ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just finished watching the video now and what a great conversation between you two. Geek Gamers and Dungeon Dive are ones of my favorite TH-cam channels. The knowledge from you two are incredible. When you said that you use White Box for a fantasy bestiary for Scarlet Horoes I am using the same mixing with Swords and Wizardry and Basic Fantasy. Great conversation Daniel.

  • @chrisohaver8740
    @chrisohaver8740 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loooong ago as a child I created a small fantasy adventure game with HyperCard. It employed point and click navigation, and a few simple key->lock mechanics. I shared it on compuserve and or genie (pre-internets) using my dads account. A few folks were kind enough to download it, try it out, and say nice things.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a small chance I played it. We had compuserve at that time.

  • @malchitos
    @malchitos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The minute I saw those card games on GG's channel I thought, " that's got Daniel written all over it!"

  • @duckilama832
    @duckilama832 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i love watching y’all’s hands talk to each other 😊

    • @Fris13
      @Fris13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking the same thing while watching. LOL

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought that would be most appropriate. :)

    • @pallenda
      @pallenda ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha fun comment 😂

  • @lone_adventurer
    @lone_adventurer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really, really great chat. Great work Daniel in giving a platform for some of the TH-cam folks to impart their wisdom. Really enjoyed this and the Stoneaxe chat.
    Enjoyed your thoughts on perma-death. I've been thinking about this a bit, especially since I'm thinking of getting back into the Fabled Lands game books and one thing that makes me a little hesitant is that a lot of effort can be 'wasted' if a few unlucky dice rolls happen in a fight. I've just become aware of the Destiny Quest books, which I believe allows you to continue on if your character 'dies' in some way.
    Anyway, thanks for another great video!

  • @jasonglover6615
    @jasonglover6615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fantastic video! Love seeing the two of you engaging in conversation. Two of my favorite folks on TH-cam. I find it amazing that so many of us have had such similar paths to where we are now. My first experience with an "RPG" was indeed A Bard's Tale on my neighbors Tandy 1000. lol... My first experience with an actual TTRPG was the original Basic D&D and then AD&D 1E. As I designer I am always pulled to both places for inspiration. So many early CRPGs molded who I am as a designer like Ultima, The Gold Box series, and my personal favorite Hero's Quest (Later changed to Quest for Glory). I really do agree that the wall between traditional TTRPGs and Board Games has faded. Games like Four Against Darkness and D100 Dungeon are good examples of this. I also used to play text adventure games like Zork and even used to make them on my old Texas Instrument calculator! These are exciting times for sure! Also, I bought a copy of Solo Game Master's Guide. Hoping to learn a lot that I can boil into my solo games.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Jason! I really need to get you on the channel to chat. I hope you're still down for that!

  • @clint8050
    @clint8050 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best interview ever! You covered so much, I feel like this is an introduction to a lecture series. Where you go in depth into each topic later.

  • @APieceofPeace2022
    @APieceofPeace2022 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know what Hypercard is as I was a Mac Plus guy myself. I made games and multimedia Hypercard games and submitted one as a College Class project. Good Memories. Hypercard was visual programming I could grasp.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was pretty cool. I had a bunch of shareware games made in HyperCard.

  • @ryanbartlett672
    @ryanbartlett672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My two favorite solo rpg people in one video! Thanks.

  • @sidsmiff
    @sidsmiff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m glad you mentioned that Ironsworn is heavy. I just couldn’t click with it though I am tempted to check out Starforged.
    I disagree with your interpretation of Mythic GME. As a system it is actually very light with modules offered that you can use or not. At its heart it is just an oracle, a character list and a thread list. For me that is very simple compared to many systems.
    Great conversation! Thanks Daniel 👍🏻

  • @davidk6269
    @davidk6269 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Daniel AND Geek Gamer together? Yes!!!!

  • @sebastienvivas9319
    @sebastienvivas9319 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I"m so happy you brought her on!

  • @ryanofottawa
    @ryanofottawa ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Heroes of the scene! I'm very excited for this one.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Ryan! Nice to see you around. :)

  • @stochasticagency
    @stochasticagency ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OK, so character death.
    It's not about a game having a so-called badge of honor that a character dies easily or quickly.
    It has more to do with character death as the ultimate risk in the game. When it comes to those OSR games, the fact that it is deadly for a character to go into a fight after fight pushes the player to respond in a different, more creative way or just run like heck.
    The more "save" mechanics there are, the easier it is to heal a character in a game the less interest many of us have in it.
    If I wanted that, I'll play a video game and save before every significant encounter.
    On the point of stopping a character's story: that's it, their story ended. An author writes the story so the character can survive unless the author kills that character. In a game, you risk the untimely death of a character due to bad luck (the dice) and poor decisions (the player chose danger over safety).
    "All stories, if continued far enough, end in death, and he is no true-story teller who would keep that from you."
    ERNEST HEMINGWAY

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s great for you!

    • @stochasticagency
      @stochasticagency ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDungeonDive LOL, come on, you knew there'd be a comment on that one.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no. I’m being totally real :). I know the vast majority of players are in your same camp. That’s great. I’m just not there. It’s not something I find valuable in any kind of fiction. I want my heroes to live so I can experience more of their adventures. It’s one of the main reasons why I can’t stand A Song of Ice and Fire. If anyone can die at any moment, I don’t want to get invested at all.

    • @stochasticagency
      @stochasticagency ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDungeonDive Well the character you're using the flashbacks for is a perfect example of how to do it right. There are other forms of plot protection that are useful in play.

  • @rhubahb
    @rhubahb ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My two favorite TH-camrs in one video / discussion? Holy heck this is awesome. Thank you both!!!

  • @BrianKolm_art
    @BrianKolm_art ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL, I too programed simple text adventures in basic and played with HyperCard. Now my solo TTRPG sessions are inspired by point-n-click adventure games.

  • @vanbeekbr
    @vanbeekbr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    two of my favorite TH-cam content creators! Thank you both for the conversation/video!

  • @MrDowntemp0
    @MrDowntemp0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 2 solo rpg pairs of hands get together, but I'm so upset you guys didn't frame a digital high five!

  • @chrisw942
    @chrisw942 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As for the character death dilemma--Anakin staying alive in a machine suit is way cooler than Obi-Wan choosing to join the Force! Terrific interview with profound questions which all storytellers and RPGers should be considering for a deeper experience. Thank you both!

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, Chris. And yes - imagine if Anakin had died? We would have never had the three good movie! :)

  • @Grognard-Solo-Gaming
    @Grognard-Solo-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, thanks! 👍👏😁

  • @davidwillems9904
    @davidwillems9904 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES!!!

  • @carolinelabbott2451
    @carolinelabbott2451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll have to watch the rest later. Very happy hearing you chat to each like this.
    Night.

  • @jflartner117
    @jflartner117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoa worlds colliding 🤯

  • @Darth_Harvey
    @Darth_Harvey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with you on Ironsworn. I have a decent amount of experience playing DnD and it seemed like almost everything I read was pushing Ironsworn.
    I read through it and it was just too much to try and start off with. I ended up starting with Ronin and I feel like it’s a great way to ease into solo roleplaying.

  • @wilonascave
    @wilonascave ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome!

  • @The_only_one33
    @The_only_one33 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great interview thanks both.

  • @CavernadoLekkis
    @CavernadoLekkis ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. Two legends together!!!

  • @carolinelabbott2451
    @carolinelabbott2451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally got to watch this fully. 🙂
    A really thoughtful discussion. I'm going to have to watch this a few times more as I have a lot to think about because you covered so many great topics.

    • @carolinelabbott2451
      @carolinelabbott2451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Side note. I think I saw a who/what/where etc dice on Amazon once as a learning tool for kids. I could be misremembering, but I am sure I have seen them for sale as its own thing.
      Also for cards I have been eyeing up various card products from Nord. System agnostic but really useful looking.
      I also have been really keen on learning to creating and making my own cards as for me it be cheaper than ordering them online made for me. Though online would be far better quality than I can make. So for instance a card with a break down of rules or a short role chart. It's handy to have cards rather than flicking through several books, especially when combining various systems.

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sword and Sorcery in 1978 (and the War of the Ring and then Freedom in the Galaxy) from SPI were early designs that melded War Games and RPGs.

  • @ten_oclock_scholar4690
    @ten_oclock_scholar4690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't play RPGs myself, but I found this conversation to be entertaining and fascinating. I love story-driven adventure games, and I enjoy learning about the history and roots of that genre in tabletop RPGs, but I've stayed away from RPGs mostly because I have no desire to create or modify the rules of a game and prefer to play in a sandbox that someone else has made. But I come from video game RPGs (Skyrim, Mass Effect, Witcher 3, Fallout), which seem to be very different in terms of the way they approach story-telling; perhaps that shaped my tastes as well as what I expect out of a narrative tabletop game. Anyway, since I don't have a history with them, I'd love to hear a conversation on the line between story-driven board games and RPGs: what strategies do they use to tell stories? in what ways do modern narrative adventure board games both rely on and deviate from RPG storytelling?

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! I'm actually working on a video about this kind of topic. It's going to be called something like "What the heck is an RPG, anyway?"

    • @ten_oclock_scholar4690
      @ten_oclock_scholar4690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDungeonDive That sounds great! Anyway, I always learn a lot from you, so thanks for all your work.

  • @matthewgonneau1056
    @matthewgonneau1056 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great fun!

  • @1346colin
    @1346colin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great interview Daniel. Love GG Channel . Synergy indeed! 😀

  • @agrayday7816
    @agrayday7816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    D & D Good times, thank you Both!

    • @GeekGamers01
      @GeekGamers01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      D&D has a nice ring, doesn’t it? Daniel, we should try that on for branding. :)
      So glad you enjoyed the conversation.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does have a good ring to it. Surprised no one has used that yet.

  • @ajmunzi
    @ajmunzi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Thanks for bringing this together! Quick question besides White Box Beastiary, which other alternative would work better with ScarlettHeroes?

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      White Box is the best and cheapest. I guess you could use OSE, but it’s the same thing and more expensive.

    • @ajmunzi
      @ajmunzi ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty Daniel, Do you think I could adapt Forbidden Lands, to play it with SH and Whitebix bestiary?

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว

      FL has a very different system. It would take a lot to covert. WH and SH take no effort at all.

  • @JB-js4xi
    @JB-js4xi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome! 😎

  • @TheGamingWard
    @TheGamingWard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeeeeessssssss. So excited for this

  • @kyrnsword72
    @kyrnsword72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a fan of both of y'all. And I'm a huge huge fan of
    D100 Dungeon! I would love to see lots more D100 Dungeon playthroughs. Scarlet Heroes goes real well with
    D100 Dungeon. I even added homebrew rules to my
    D100 Dungeon game.
    I enjoyed
    4 Against Darkness also. Ironsworn I got in full too complicated and
    story driven for me.

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can play Liminal Horror solo and using the Cairn solo rules as a guide.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep! There are so many tools out there to play just any RPG solo.

  • @dungeongobboking
    @dungeongobboking 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genius video idea. Love it!

  • @miked5394
    @miked5394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an excellent discussion - hearing about the piles of books vs what you've both actually played and the preference for cards has me feeling seen!

  • @Rathammergames
    @Rathammergames ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok my brain exploded

  • @joshl716
    @joshl716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I heavily disagree that Ironsworn is not a good place for people new to solo RPGs to start with. Aside from Four Against Darkness and D100 Dungeon, Ironsworn was my first solo RPG, and after reading the entire rulebook, I had zero trouble playing a session or understanding any of the concepts. It's one of the few games that I haven't needed to watch a TH-cam video to learn how to play after reading the book. My TTRPG experience in general is pretty slim. While I agree the book is a little long, lots of the pages have pictures, so it's not all text. The book is well laid out with plenty of examples of how playing the game works. Before playing Ironsworn I looked at playing Mork Borg solo but I found the rulebook intimidating due to the layout. Starting with Ironsworn has made me more confident in playing other RPGs solo, and I found it to be the perfect place to start.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great!

    • @joshl716
      @joshl716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDungeonDive Thanks. Everyone's journey is different. I did read a comment on here after I wrote mine from someone that said they had trouble jumping into Ironsworn. Our brains are all wired in different ways, but that's what makes art and games beautiful and unique.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. It’s really important to find works and what doesn’t work for you.

  • @shazamxxx
    @shazamxxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah that team make soooo much sense hehehe

  • @genghispawn3919
    @genghispawn3919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _Nice._

  • @dungeonsofkards
    @dungeonsofkards ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo guys are awesome.

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive  ปีที่แล้ว

      Will your decks of cards every be released in English? I’d love to feature them.

  • @markperry1603
    @markperry1603 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg, this is almost too much -- two sets of talking hands?

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh look....hands talking.....😆☺