In fairness I don’t think most people blamed Jinder. They know it’s Vince and sadly very few have the power to say no to Vince without it affecting their careers badly.
Because it wasn't even remotely humorous tbh...racist "jokes" get a pass sometimes if they are funny but this was just road dogg and Vince trying their best impression of an edgy 13 year old
Thats Vince for ya..... espeically when Vince makes horrible booking decisionS. He never takes the blame. Or in his eyes, its "gods work". I am really GLAD that Vince isn't going to get that "story book" ending. I hope he never gets that send away video montage package, even after death.
I recall seeing a video on social media shortly after Jinder won the championship. Now, I am gonna cheer Jinder anyway. He's Canadian. Rules are the rules and the facts are the facts. But I rolled my eyes hard when he won the belt. Anyway, this video is Jinder visiting the kitchen at whatever nutrition company he pays for his meal prep. He's back with all of the kitchen staff and they are all freaking out over the title win. He's doing pictures and selfies, letting everybody hold the belt, and he looks so absolutely jazzed that I had to be all in on the Maharajah.
@@OneAtFaultMedia I’d love to see him come back in just street clothes as a Canadian and watch him manhandle the shit out of other guys. No race bs. Just Jinder. That could be the gimmick, ‘Just Jinder’ haha
A true crime podcast i listen to, two of the guys are huge wrestling nerds and some how the conversation got steered to offensive gimmicks and how an Arab comic had guys in hood attack Taker, but that same week the London tube attack happened and they cut the whole story and I think you may be talking the same guy. I wasn't watching at the time
@@The-Deaditeunfortunately shayna whole gimmick was being a cage fighter, which by the time there was also Ronda rousey, far more famous and marketable; plus it was shown multiple times why wwe and mma don’t mix well (riddle and rollins weird fight pit match and also ronda vs shayna)
@@AneesSarwar34This makes me proud that Vince is out of the WWE. 😡I can't believe he'd have Jinder do that. (Then again it's not surprising at the same time) Heel or not I'm still a fan of the Jinder Mahal character.
“It’s not you, it’s the character” made me think of Muhammad Hassan. He got fired for doing his job and the company threw him under the bus. The man would come out every week and state facts. I know the attack on The Undertaker was in bad taste and it didn’t make sense for Muhammad’s character. His whole character was trying to prove that him and all of his people aren’t radicals. I guess the point was possibly to show him becoming more radicalized.
" His whole character was trying to prove that him and all of his people aren’t radicals." Too bad most wrestling fans are white southern rednecks, so of course they had to twist the Muslim wrestler into a bad guy terrorist because that's what the Vince and the loudest part of the wwe fanbase want.
It's not you, it's the character... Maybe Jinder Mahal & Muhammad Hassan did it, but I think they didn't know that Raj Dhesi & Marc Copani were the one who felt the pain...
UPN made the call to cancel the character. WWE just decided to fire him after writing him off cause there wouldn't have been a suitable alternate for him without getting intense backlash. Plus there's also the story of Hassan having a lot of heat amongst the roster because of bad advice he took by telling Eddie or Chavo not to do the Gory bomb
Its weird how so many people gave Jinder, the guy forced to say it, shit for that, and didn't give Vince, the guy who wrote it, shit for that. Imagine Jinder actually sending out that apology tweet, for something he didn't even write.
Vince also didn't allow Jinder to confess later on. He didn't thought what Nakamura would've or may have felt. No fault of Jinder here, but that promo wasn't entertainment tbh
@@antonycuff4512 He fired them because he didn't see anything for them in their immediate future so he released them so they can succeed somewhere else. At least HHH doesn't hold talent hostage and make them sit at home or in catering.
This was like when Vince made Randy cut that "Eddie's in hell" promo against Rey shortly after he died even though Randy wasn't comfortable with it at all. Classic Vince.
Or making Paige say Charlotte's brother Reid didn't have much fight in him Ric didn't know about that till we all heard it Vince has always been like this smh.
@@marktallentire3464 She looked like she was holding her tears back I felt as bad for Paige as I did the Flairs just a gross situation just for Vince's fucked up sense of humor.
I remember seeing a breakdown of the Booker T vs HHH storyline on youtube. Had many racial comments and undertones. And I remember the guy ended it by saying it would have all worked... if the right guy won. But instead HHH hits his finisher, takes ages to cover Booker, and gets the W. Granted I think it would be very hard to pull off today. But even with this example, did Nakamura win? No. Did the villain meet justice? No. So its the CHEAPEST of heat, and in reality it's go away heat. Because fans are smarter to the biz today, so if anything they wont be booing Jinder, they will be booing the writers.
@@xxxbay7445 I tried finding the youtube channel n the documentary on the fued again, but I can't. Maybe he got hit with copywrite strikes. His work was really good.
Sometimes the villain wins a rivalry, and that is fine, the Triple H character certainly has done a hell of a lot worse than asking someone to give him a towel, for which he got beaten up, and still won rivalries, just think of that one time he and Stone Cold battered Lita, only to then win the rivalry that was caused by it.
@@ImageNationProject It was the only more specific thing that I can remember that actually takes a shot at Booker's race, most of the other things, like the classic overused "people like you don't belong here" line could have just as likely been tied to Booker's real life criminal record, but then again its been 20 years maybe I am missing some other details.
And that shows how creative was done around the time on the main roster where unless you were still wrestling and were Roman Brock Cena or maybe Shane you HAD to say or do something even if you didn't want to actually heck don't think anyone was safe considering the Dean Rollins feud by the end of the year after the Shinsuke Jinder stuff Dean/Moxley was close to saying Roman getting cancer was a good thing. Which thank god for Black and Gold NXT.
"Struggled" Under Vince they literally signed a multi-million dollar deal with Saudi, then sold the company for billions to TKO. I think Vince is a horrible person and out of touch, but in no way did the company "struggle" with him in charge. He literally made the company more profitable than ever before and it's not close. You not liking something doesn't mean the company was somehow failing.
For real, glad that they are not doing as bad as they were when Vince was around. Iyo Sky seems to be doing great rn, Asuka can always make a comeback, Kairi Sane could do great if she turned babyface and Shinsuke…
@@JordanBDC I do wish Male asian wrestlers could go for a world title such as ibuchi, Nakamura, hell tozawa is great in the ring and he's a background character. As an Asian male, we lack strong représentations in the west
Vince made Shin the World Champion of his company lmao. Ahh the good ole "Vince is a racist pos who didn't know shit about wrestling" revisionist history by the mark internet community.
@@windowpeeper I forgot to mention Tozawa. His ring skills are not talked about enough and he can literally pull off any character that’s given to him. I could see him and Otis winning tag gold if they go for it. Nakamura is my favorite Asian wrestler btw, Vince kinda destroyed his aura with way he used him tho 👍
This is why he is your modern day MAHARAJA! People like him know that there is no room for racism. I always knew deep down this man was a real life face.
Much RESPECT to Jinder for striving for years in the business. He deserved a lot more opportunities. 🙏 I had 3 WWE tryouts as a Chinese wrestler prior to 2010. Back then, no one knew what to do asian wrestlers, and some still dont. His push would have been a God send and would have ushered in new age. I was presented as Chinese but am also Japanese/Hawaiian and wrestled Yuji Nagata when I was 23. Least Jey Uso still uses the neckbreaker I made in 1998. TH-cam Best Neckbreaker in Wrestling History.
"I had 3 WWE tryouts as a Chinese wrestler prior to 2010. Back then, no one knew what to do asian wrestlers, and some still dont." They would made you come out dressed like Mickey Rooney's yellowface costume and do a "funny" asian accent to entertain all the southern rednecks that make up the wwe fanbase.
@@nuraby_9228 I was completely ready for anything with Chinese and Japanese accents. I also joked why was I working for a low bodyfat when I would probably be wearing a karate gi or kung fu/monk clothes.
He really isn't. He is a horrible human being but a racist wouldn't hire so many black people and pay them millions for so many years, plus give them title runs. That's not a racist.
Not Jinders fault but damn Nakamura hasnt recovered after that burial He is the only Royal Rumble afaik who hasnt ever won the world title , Its shame because Jinder was doing great work as heel and nakamura would have benefited by defeating him at SummerSlam
I've always been of the opinion that racial storylines can work if the racist heel gets his ass kicked. HHH vs. Booker T is the best example of what not to do. Booker T just took that shit off Triple H then got buried at Wrestlemania.
Jinder should’ve remained champion till WrestleMania and loose to shinshuke at mania 34 and not insult such talent he is the way they did and still doing 😢😢😢
Shows you what kind of man Jinder Mahal is when he’s apologizing for something he didn’t have no control over (same for Shelton Benjamin). Vince McMahon should be the one apologizing.
*Been watching a few interviews with Mahal & I got to say dudes got a personality. They should have let him use it whilst he was in WWE. Could have gotten over a lot more.*
The thing with wrestling is that it's live and you're getting a live reaction. You don't really have a chance to separate fiction from reality. If jindervsaid that in a scene, shot like a scene on tv or a movie, you can process it as fiction, much better. That's what i think they will do more if on netflix. More actual scenes that build a story.
I wasn't watching WWE when Mahal was really on there as a regular wrestler, it was during the years I stopped tuning in, so when I came back in 2020 I saw everybody just absolutely hating him and I had no idea why. And then I think he got injured, or just written off TV for awhile, I didn't watch his managing on NXT, and the last I saw was him putting over the Rock (which was so well done). But watching some of these interviews of his, he seems like a genuine nice guy and I hope he finds success elsewhere as the one or two matches I saw of his, he was pretty good.
Man it's weird to hear that was "a different era" I stopped watching sometime before that promo, doesn't feel like it's been too long lol but probably a decade... My god time passes
I think the reason is because the majority of viewers think that whatever the wrestlers say ( cutting promo ) is them actually doing it on their own. Not everyone within the viewerbase knows that 90% of the promos are scripted and in most cases presented to them by writers . Only " Smart marks " who watches all these interviews and behind the scenes interviews knows whats up.
Wrestlers are playing characters … what the fuck?! It’s not like we get MAD at an actor playing a racist in a movie. Why would it be different with wrestling?
Jinder sounds like a great guy. This wasnt on him. I also find the double standard silly that actors are separated of their characters, but professional wrestlers are not.
Pro wrestling and TV shows/movies are two different ball games. Most people do understand it's a character, but unless it's a movie character that's being racist, being a character that's racist on live TV makes no sense nor it's also needed. On top of that, most people know during that time, it's coming from Vince's mind. It's obviously not the first time this has happened and got bad PR. Jon Moxley, fka Dean Ambrose, cut a promo on Roman Reigns for having cancer, but he didn't want to cut that promo, Vince did. While yes, it's for entertainment, there are also certain things you can really say on a more social aspect on live TV that can be very touchy to a lot of fans versus a movie, which we may know ahead of time because of trailers or reading the synopsis.
All the bad booking, pushing the wrong people, terrible promos and questionable tactics, all can be blamed on Vince McMahon, the anti christ of wrestling.
This coming from the same Vince McMahon that said the N word *on camera,* and then defended it by saying “oh no, I didn’t say that, the character Vince McMahon said that” like it somehow excused it
There are a few differences between the kind of story being told by WWE, and the kind of story being told by a movie like American History X, using Chris's example. WWE is scripted, but it's designed to blur the boundaries between real and fake. Your actors, your wrestlers, aren't supposed to break kayfabe. With very few exceptions, they don't show up on Jimmy Fallon and give their real opinions or tell their real stories. They don't do public signings out of character. They don't even portray different characters for different companies, unless they want to be dropped by WWE. Every public appearance is curated to make it seem like their character is a real person, interwoven with real life, even if we know it's scripted. But also, the company itself is a part of the story. WWE, in the world of WWE, isn't like Warner Bros or Columbia, producing one-off stories that may be starkly different from one another. WWE is the parent company that manages all of these stories as one. The "fictional" WWE is seen as "responsible" for all of the stories it tells. So yeah, the real WWE gets heat when the fictional one goes too far. I think McMahon is too smart not to realize the dynamics at play with something like this, and I think he was looking for an excuse to make one of his employees (I'm sorry, contract workers) do something he knew wasn't okay, but that he wanted to do anyway.
What about when American wrestler disrespected All Indians & Indian flag? I don't see any backlash for that so I know most of these backlashing people are just hypocrites.
I do not get why people are so sensitive about race. I am proud to be the race that I am, there would be no possible way to say anything about my race that would ever make me feel bad about it, the most you'd get out of me would be a chuckle if it was a good roast using accurate stereotype that may or may not apply to me too. To feel bad about some rather harmless racial remarks that you did a a villain character is a new kind of sensitive though, like your character ambushes people and physically assaults them backstage, tries to injure other and end their careers, got no problem with that but with a few mean words aimed at someones japanese heritage? Makes no sense.
Fans are always idiots. If something is wrong or evil, it is 100% Vince as the problem. Promos, bad booking of stars and stories, bad company practices, firing employees for unjust reasons, etc every problem is him at all times.
People are quick to label wrestling fake, but when something happens they don't like, then suddenly it becomes very real.
Absolutely. A lot of people who pride themselves on being "smart" forget that the wrestlers are actors on a TV show.
In fairness I don’t think most people blamed Jinder. They know it’s Vince and sadly very few have the power to say no to Vince without it affecting their careers badly.
@@adamlennard1828 and why he should say no he's paying a bad guy what's wrong that a bad guy saying something offensive
Wrestling matches are fake
Because it wasn't even remotely humorous tbh...racist "jokes" get a pass sometimes if they are funny but this was just road dogg and Vince trying their best impression of an edgy 13 year old
Vince should be the one apologizing, not Jinder. He's the one who made Jinder do it *after he said no!*
Yeah but not how things work
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Vince has far worse to apologize for.. this is a fart in the wind
No one should apologize. People are too sensitive
Thats Vince for ya..... espeically when Vince makes horrible booking decisionS. He never takes the blame. Or in his eyes, its "gods work". I am really GLAD that Vince isn't going to get that "story book" ending. I hope he never gets that send away video montage package, even after death.
This guy seems like a genuinely kind dude
I recall seeing a video on social media shortly after Jinder won the championship. Now, I am gonna cheer Jinder anyway. He's Canadian. Rules are the rules and the facts are the facts. But I rolled my eyes hard when he won the belt.
Anyway, this video is Jinder visiting the kitchen at whatever nutrition company he pays for his meal prep. He's back with all of the kitchen staff and they are all freaking out over the title win. He's doing pictures and selfies, letting everybody hold the belt, and he looks so absolutely jazzed that I had to be all in on the Maharajah.
His matches are underrated as well look beyond the backlash at that time Jinder is such an underdog 😢
@@OneAtFaultMedia I’d love to see him come back in just street clothes as a Canadian and watch him manhandle the shit out of other guys. No race bs. Just Jinder. That could be the gimmick, ‘Just Jinder’ haha
Hearing Vince said “who cares, it’s not you it’s entertainment” and know why Muhammad Hassan was fired is crazy 😂
A true crime podcast i listen to, two of the guys are huge wrestling nerds and some how the conversation got steered to offensive gimmicks and how an Arab comic had guys in hood attack Taker, but that same week the London tube attack happened and they cut the whole story and I think you may be talking the same guy. I wasn't watching at the time
Vince is a fucking hypocrite lol
Worst one i heard was him dismissing Bayzler for her MMA moveset yet Brock is at the top of the pyramid in WWE.
@@The-Deaditein fairness, Brock was a wrestler before he was in MMA.
@@The-Deaditeunfortunately shayna whole gimmick was being a cage fighter, which by the time there was also Ronda rousey, far more famous and marketable; plus it was shown multiple times why wwe and mma don’t mix well (riddle and rollins weird fight pit match and also ronda vs shayna)
@@iago6000shayna bazsler just sucks simple as that
Of course that promo was Vinces idea 😂
I bet he also wrote that Shelton/Yoshi promo
He did, Vince wrote almost every promo
At this point, you can almost certainly guess just by listening if it’s a Vince promo or not, thank god he’s out
@@AneesSarwar34This makes me proud that Vince is out of the WWE. 😡I can't believe he'd have Jinder do that. (Then again it's not surprising at the same time) Heel or not I'm still a fan of the Jinder Mahal character.
Does he actually write them or tell people to write them with whatever idea he has?
“It’s not you, it’s the character” made me think of Muhammad Hassan. He got fired for doing his job and the company threw him under the bus. The man would come out every week and state facts. I know the attack on The Undertaker was in bad taste and it didn’t make sense for Muhammad’s character. His whole character was trying to prove that him and all of his people aren’t radicals. I guess the point was possibly to show him becoming more radicalized.
Very good point. They did him dirty
" His whole character was trying to prove that him and all of his people aren’t radicals."
Too bad most wrestling fans are white southern rednecks, so of course they had to twist the Muslim wrestler into a bad guy terrorist because that's what the Vince and the loudest part of the wwe fanbase want.
It's not you, it's the character... Maybe Jinder Mahal & Muhammad Hassan did it, but I think they didn't know that Raj Dhesi & Marc Copani were the one who felt the pain...
I thought he got fired because UPN made the call because he happened shortly after an attack.
UPN made the call to cancel the character. WWE just decided to fire him after writing him off cause there wouldn't have been a suitable alternate for him without getting intense backlash.
Plus there's also the story of Hassan having a lot of heat amongst the roster because of bad advice he took by telling Eddie or Chavo not to do the Gory bomb
Its weird how so many people gave Jinder, the guy forced to say it, shit for that, and didn't give Vince, the guy who wrote it, shit for that.
Imagine Jinder actually sending out that apology tweet, for something he didn't even write.
It's because he's Indian
@@Jk-en4qv He's not even Indian.
Vince also didn't allow Jinder to confess later on. He didn't thought what Nakamura would've or may have felt. No fault of Jinder here, but that promo wasn't entertainment tbh
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Yeah Vince sucks. Thank god he's gone.
Racist angles have never been funny. Vince had a poor sense of humor
@@BenthovenMusic95 i bet jinder would rather work for vince than not working for hhh . they fired the whole indian group at once .
@@antonycuff4512 He fired them because he didn't see anything for them in their immediate future so he released them so they can succeed somewhere else. At least HHH doesn't hold talent hostage and make them sit at home or in catering.
This was like when Vince made Randy cut that "Eddie's in hell" promo against Rey shortly after he died even though Randy wasn't comfortable with it at all. Classic Vince.
I hated that so much. Things don’t offend me, but I turned that off
Or making Paige say Charlotte's brother Reid didn't have much fight in him Ric didn't know about that till we all heard it Vince has always been like this smh.
@@gamerdude612Paige REALLY didn’t want to say that line, if you look closely you could even see her wince just before she says it
@@marktallentire3464 She looked like she was holding her tears back I felt as bad for Paige as I did the Flairs just a gross situation just for Vince's fucked up sense of humor.
I remember seeing a breakdown of the Booker T vs HHH storyline on youtube. Had many racial comments and undertones. And I remember the guy ended it by saying it would have all worked... if the right guy won. But instead HHH hits his finisher, takes ages to cover Booker, and gets the W.
Granted I think it would be very hard to pull off today. But even with this example, did Nakamura win? No. Did the villain meet justice? No.
So its the CHEAPEST of heat, and in reality it's go away heat. Because fans are smarter to the biz today, so if anything they wont be booing Jinder, they will be booing the writers.
That shit sad
@@xxxbay7445 I tried finding the youtube channel n the documentary on the fued again, but I can't. Maybe he got hit with copywrite strikes. His work was really good.
Sometimes the villain wins a rivalry, and that is fine, the Triple H character certainly has done a hell of a lot worse than asking someone to give him a towel, for which he got beaten up, and still won rivalries, just think of that one time he and Stone Cold battered Lita, only to then win the rivalry that was caused by it.
@@Triplebrc the towel was the least offensive thing lol
@@ImageNationProject It was the only more specific thing that I can remember that actually takes a shot at Booker's race, most of the other things, like the classic overused "people like you don't belong here" line could have just as likely been tied to Booker's real life criminal record, but then again its been 20 years maybe I am missing some other details.
And that shows how creative was done around the time on the main roster where unless you were still wrestling and were Roman Brock Cena or maybe Shane you HAD to say or do something even if you didn't want to actually heck don't think anyone was safe considering the Dean Rollins feud by the end of the year after the Shinsuke Jinder stuff Dean/Moxley was close to saying Roman getting cancer was a good thing. Which thank god for Black and Gold NXT.
Roman had to as well. Think of what he had to say around that time.
Another example, Vince was the reason the WWE Struggled
"Struggled"
Under Vince they literally signed a multi-million dollar deal with Saudi, then sold the company for billions to TKO.
I think Vince is a horrible person and out of touch, but in no way did the company "struggle" with him in charge. He literally made the company more profitable than ever before and it's not close. You not liking something doesn't mean the company was somehow failing.
@@CCtheRappermanThe level of revisionist history by internet wrestling marks is rivaled only by the revisionist history of liberals in America.
lol he’s the reason it’s a billion dollar industry 😂😂😂😂
@@CCtheRappermanagreed.
they doing asian wrestlers nasty in WWE
For real, glad that they are not doing as bad as they were when Vince was around. Iyo Sky seems to be doing great rn, Asuka can always make a comeback, Kairi Sane could do great if she turned babyface and Shinsuke…
@@JordanBDC I do wish Male asian wrestlers could go for a world title such as ibuchi, Nakamura, hell tozawa is great in the ring and he's a background character. As an Asian male, we lack strong représentations in the west
Vince made Shin the World Champion of his company lmao. Ahh the good ole "Vince is a racist pos who didn't know shit about wrestling" revisionist history by the mark internet community.
@@windowpeeper I forgot to mention Tozawa. His ring skills are not talked about enough and he can literally pull off any character that’s given to him. I could see him and Otis winning tag gold if they go for it. Nakamura is my favorite Asian wrestler btw, Vince kinda destroyed his aura with way he used him tho 👍
@THE_SKiZzLe23 when was shin world champ?
This is why he is your modern day MAHARAJA! People like him know that there is no room for racism.
I always knew deep down this man was a real life face.
You fans would not have survived in the Attitude Era
@@BabyMaharaja0 trololol try harder next time
"It's not you, It's the Character.. It's ENTERTAINMENT!!!"
What?
Ya know what kind of things entertain Vince, right? LOL
"Just a prank bro"
With Vince's court case a ton adds up
It is the character
It is a character though. Leonardo DiCaprio won an Oscar for playing a racist slave owner and I don’t see why that should be treated any differently.
But you'll never see the clip of Paul Heyman telling Eddie & chavo Guerrero that "he'll have them deported" lmfao
Not the same. Deportation isn’t racial - Hispanics aren’t the only ones that can be deported.
Much RESPECT to Jinder for striving for years in the business. He deserved a lot more opportunities. 🙏
I had 3 WWE tryouts as a Chinese wrestler prior to 2010. Back then, no one knew what to do asian wrestlers, and some still dont. His push would have been a God send and would have ushered in new age.
I was presented as Chinese but am also Japanese/Hawaiian and wrestled Yuji Nagata when I was 23.
Least Jey Uso still uses the neckbreaker I made in 1998. TH-cam Best Neckbreaker in Wrestling History.
"I had 3 WWE tryouts as a Chinese wrestler prior to 2010. Back then, no one knew what to do asian wrestlers, and some still dont."
They would made you come out dressed like Mickey Rooney's yellowface costume and do a "funny" asian accent to entertain all the southern rednecks that make up the wwe fanbase.
@@nuraby_9228 or go the other way like Jimmy Wang Yang because the concept of an Asian person living in America was inherently funny to Vince somehow
@@nuraby_9228 I was completely ready for anything with Chinese and Japanese accents. I also joked why was I working for a low bodyfat when I would probably be wearing a karate gi or kung fu/monk clothes.
WWE and their stereotypes of ethnic minorities 😱
Vince is racist?! Never saw that coming,lol.
Right 😂 he is just a trash human
He really isn't. He is a horrible human being but a racist wouldn't hire so many black people and pay them millions for so many years, plus give them title runs. That's not a racist.
vince wasn't the one who fired him .
@@vodkagal28 he's not racist
@@CYB3R2Kthen why did he say the n word?
All these Vince stories sound like his a psychopath. A very indecisive boss
He decided to let Jinder get flamed. 100% on purpose.
Vince: “ no no don’t worry it’s just a character”!
Muhammad Hassan and Davari were characters too
Jindel mahal sounds like triple h
The more interviews I see from this guy, the more I really like him. seems like a genuinely good dude
If only people could differentiate between fiction and nonfiction.
Seriously
Not Jinders fault but damn Nakamura hasnt recovered after that burial
He is the only Royal Rumble afaik who hasnt ever won the world title , Its shame because Jinder was doing great work as heel and nakamura would have benefited by defeating him at SummerSlam
At that point Jinder wasn't exactly a heel. That promo made him undeniably heel and was the beginning of the end.
@@lastone032085 was this feud right after he defeated MITB winner Corbin with an outside interference assist from Cena?
Vince never adapted with the times.
I've always been of the opinion that racial storylines can work if the racist heel gets his ass kicked. HHH vs. Booker T is the best example of what not to do. Booker T just took that shit off Triple H then got buried at Wrestlemania.
That was great, let's not make it a child story by making the victim win all the time
Jinder should’ve remained champion till WrestleMania and loose to shinshuke at mania 34 and not insult such talent he is the way they did and still doing 😢😢😢
Even the fans in the arena were chanting 'that's too far' but hey it's Vince so no one can say no when his mind is made up
That segment gave me Shelton Benjamin/Yoshi Tatsu flashbacks
They say it's too far when a heel beat ups a face, this doesn't mean anything.
WWE fans are usually autistic, so that doesn't say much
Dude stop interrupting the Maharaja
He got back to gorilla and the social media guy was ALREADY like ‘bro you fucked up’ 😂
Shows you what kind of man Jinder Mahal is when he’s apologizing for something he didn’t have no control over (same for Shelton Benjamin). Vince McMahon should be the one apologizing.
Jinder was just doing what he was told, but low-key I do miss his reign as champion. I would love to see him reunite with the Bollywood Boyz
*Been watching a few interviews with Mahal & I got to say dudes got a personality. They should have let him use it whilst he was in WWE. Could have gotten over a lot more.*
It's crazy how these interviews will gravitate you to these wrestlers....and make you root for them
"Vince said who cares"
That so Vince 😒
The thing with wrestling is that it's live and you're getting a live reaction. You don't really have a chance to separate fiction from reality. If jindervsaid that in a scene, shot like a scene on tv or a movie, you can process it as fiction, much better.
That's what i think they will do more if on netflix. More actual scenes that build a story.
this just shows that there is no line vince mcmahon won't cross.... he needs to just stay the fuck away from wrestling
Jinder has nothing to feel guilty about. We all know who was behind the material he was given.
I never thought I would hear wrestling fans chant "Thst's too far"
seriously they cheer people being set on fire and falling 20 feet through tables
Lol i hear it all the time when heel characters ''brutally'' attacks the face ones
I wasn't watching WWE when Mahal was really on there as a regular wrestler, it was during the years I stopped tuning in, so when I came back in 2020 I saw everybody just absolutely hating him and I had no idea why. And then I think he got injured, or just written off TV for awhile, I didn't watch his managing on NXT, and the last I saw was him putting over the Rock (which was so well done). But watching some of these interviews of his, he seems like a genuine nice guy and I hope he finds success elsewhere as the one or two matches I saw of his, he was pretty good.
omg...He literally looks like Heavy from TF2... xD
Jinder is a wholesome dude. Always well spoken and always considerate of others.
Lol fans want WWE to be more edgy but I guess Jinder's promo on Shinsuke, which had no cussing might I add was too much.
You can be edgy wi tbh out being racist . What is it with you guys stuck on an attitude era fetish ?
jinder is so different out of character, he's an amazing actor
Punjabi from 🇮🇳 India, Punjab is state of the country. You should address your country also. Jai Hind
We know it wasn't your idea bro...
Man I liked Jinder.
Vince, Hulk Hogan and Trump has the same mentality and follow a similar Ideology.
Man it's weird to hear that was "a different era"
I stopped watching sometime before that promo, doesn't feel like it's been too long lol but probably a decade... My god time passes
I think the reason is because the majority of viewers think that whatever the wrestlers say ( cutting promo ) is them actually doing it on their own. Not everyone within the viewerbase knows that 90% of the promos are scripted and in most cases presented to them by writers . Only " Smart marks " who watches all these interviews and behind the scenes interviews knows whats up.
Wrestlers are playing characters … what the fuck?! It’s not like we get MAD at an actor playing a racist in a movie. Why would it be different with wrestling?
Jinder sounds like a great guy. This wasnt on him. I also find the double standard silly that actors are separated of their characters, but professional wrestlers are not.
Not your fault Jinder! You're still the man
Because we’re supposed to believe pro wrestling even when we know it’s a work. It’s supposed to be so good it makes us think.
This guy needs to be back one day
Non wwe fans: yall know its fake right?
Also non wwe fans: omg i cant believe he said that! Cancel wwe!!!
During Attitude era these things were quite normal. People are too much sensible.
Vince is right on this one, it a character of a heel racist guy its like saying DiCaprio is racist because of what he did in Django.
We can thank SJWs for not understanding what a character is
The fact some of y’all are like who cares? This was what in 2017. We don’t need racist or stereotype promos anymore.
What promo was this? I want to watch the clip
Jinder deserved better. Should've been a top midcarder.
He sounds like triple h 🤣
Imagine Arnold Schwartzenegger having to issue an apology for every guy he's killed in a movie.
I think Vince was the only person in WWE who wasn't playing a character.
It’s not on Jinder. This is all on Vince.
Pro wrestling and TV shows/movies are two different ball games. Most people do understand it's a character, but unless it's a movie character that's being racist, being a character that's racist on live TV makes no sense nor it's also needed. On top of that, most people know during that time, it's coming from Vince's mind. It's obviously not the first time this has happened and got bad PR. Jon Moxley, fka Dean Ambrose, cut a promo on Roman Reigns for having cancer, but he didn't want to cut that promo, Vince did. While yes, it's for entertainment, there are also certain things you can really say on a more social aspect on live TV that can be very touchy to a lot of fans versus a movie, which we may know ahead of time because of trailers or reading the synopsis.
U using the edward norton american X reference made his response to ur question seem like bs
No one is surprised or needs convincing that Vince wrote that.
You cant really say No to Vince unless youre HHH, Cena, HBK,, Steve austin, Rock, Undertaker, or Brock Lesnar.
Which literally means: if you’re among the greatest wrestlers ever lived then you have more creative control, well no shit
@@iago6000but they all got creative freedom before their names were made lol . Even taker had to do a lot of things he didn’t like
All the bad booking, pushing the wrong people, terrible promos and questionable tactics, all can be blamed on Vince McMahon, the anti christ of wrestling.
Another reason to thank Janelle Whatshername.
I was in the arena when he was cutting that promo. It was...super cringe lol
This coming from the same Vince McMahon that said the N word *on camera,* and then defended it by saying “oh no, I didn’t say that, the character Vince McMahon said that” like it somehow excused it
There are a few differences between the kind of story being told by WWE, and the kind of story being told by a movie like American History X, using Chris's example. WWE is scripted, but it's designed to blur the boundaries between real and fake. Your actors, your wrestlers, aren't supposed to break kayfabe. With very few exceptions, they don't show up on Jimmy Fallon and give their real opinions or tell their real stories. They don't do public signings out of character. They don't even portray different characters for different companies, unless they want to be dropped by WWE. Every public appearance is curated to make it seem like their character is a real person, interwoven with real life, even if we know it's scripted.
But also, the company itself is a part of the story. WWE, in the world of WWE, isn't like Warner Bros or Columbia, producing one-off stories that may be starkly different from one another. WWE is the parent company that manages all of these stories as one. The "fictional" WWE is seen as "responsible" for all of the stories it tells. So yeah, the real WWE gets heat when the fictional one goes too far. I think McMahon is too smart not to realize the dynamics at play with something like this, and I think he was looking for an excuse to make one of his employees (I'm sorry, contract workers) do something he knew wasn't okay, but that he wanted to do anyway.
Damn his facial and bone structure completely changed from all the roids
What about when American wrestler disrespected All Indians & Indian flag? I don't see any backlash for that so
I know most of these backlashing people are just hypocrites.
As bad as this promo was...nothing was compared to how terrible the championship run was.
he says things are better now but i bet he rather be working for vince than not working for triple h !
Funny you mention Edward Norton even though he’s the one who ruined his own Hulk role lol
He's not mad about that. He has dignity.
Just remember guys Vince did drop the N bomb to Booker T.
that was a great promo
Good Ole Vince
I'm so glad Vince is gone. He just loved publicly humiliating his staff, it's disgusting.
Thank God Vince is no longer there
Road Dogg was head writer at the time no? Dude was something else smh....
But Jinder made clear the line came from Vince himself.
Almost like you didn’t watch the video
I do not get why people are so sensitive about race. I am proud to be the race that I am, there would be no possible way to say anything about my race that would ever make me feel bad about it, the most you'd get out of me would be a chuckle if it was a good roast using accurate stereotype that may or may not apply to me too. To feel bad about some rather harmless racial remarks that you did a a villain character is a new kind of sensitive though, like your character ambushes people and physically assaults them backstage, tries to injure other and end their careers, got no problem with that but with a few mean words aimed at someones japanese heritage? Makes no sense.
It’s just USA don’t worry
@@iago6000not jst usa lil bro
Fans are always idiots. If something is wrong or evil, it is 100% Vince as the problem. Promos, bad booking of stars and stories, bad company practices, firing employees for unjust reasons, etc every problem is him at all times.
So you're saying that Vince tried to... Hinder the Jinder? 👳♂
Who cares???? Why would you apologize for this and throw Vince under the bus?
What was the promo
Something related to Mr. Miyagi
@@p.s.t9844 ty
What did he say?
The racist and stereotypical character in WWE is apart of the company
vince being racist?
shocker
I'm so glad Vince McMahon is gone.
Hahaha there was nothing RACIST CALM DOWN 😂
shinskew? i dont think he pronounced that right
I am so glad Vince is gone.
And this is why Vince sucks.