From Perception to Pleasure: How Music Changes the Brain | Dr. Robert Zatorre | TEDxHECMontréal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 เม.ย. 2018
- In 2005 he was named holder of a James McGill chair in Neuroscience. In 2006 he became the founding co-director of the international laboratory for Brain, Music, and Sound research (BRAMS), a unique multi-university consortium with state-of-the art facilities dedicated to the cognitive neuroscience of music. In 2011 he was awarded the IPSEN foundation prize in neuronal plasticity, in 2013 he won the Knowles prize in hearing research from Northwestern University, and in 2017 was named a fellow of the Royal Society of Canada. He lives in Montreal with his wife and collaborator Virginia Penhune, professor of psychology at Concordia University. He tries to keep up his baroque repertoire on the organ whenever he can get a chance.
Dr. Zatorre is a cognitive neuroscientist at the Montreal Neurological Institute of McGill University. His principal interests relate to the neural substrate for auditory cognition, with special emphasis on two complex and characteristically human abilities: speech and music. He and his collaborators have published over 280 scientific papers on a variety of topics including pitch perception, musical imagery, absolute pitch, music and emotion, perception of auditory space, and brain plasticity in the blind and the deaf. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
Informative speech! 💯
Awesome
Executive Funk-tioning
Ted talks has 17 million subscribers why is it then that only 2.2k have watched this video?
Cuz everyone think they're super-intelligent but, actually very few are.
Now at 24.7k views but 24.5mil subs
shadowban by youtube.
@Caiden you know nothing lol
@@70msubscriberswith6videosc2 your username is unintelligent
Violin video: great training aid for bow control in practice!
I came up with similar conclusions in 2005, but I'm no neuroscientist, just a musician.
In my formula, I posited that the degree of enjoyment of a piece of music is directly proportional to the *?!* factor and inversely proportional to the *"age/I've already heard"* factor.
The ?! notation is chronological: first, the *? (question mark)* - that strange sensation when you listen to a piece of music for the first time. _Objective_ and not "good" or "bad" per se - just a sensation of strangeness: the landmark of a diverse piece of music, which has the power to evolve into good or bad feelings.
Then, the *! (exclamation mark)* part, _subjective_ - here one could experience somatic sensations like thrills down the spine, cold sweat, even a lump in the throat. Here is where your emotions let you determine whether you like a piece of music, or not.
I think this parallels the findings presented here, with the interaction between the two systems, the first which allows to analyze sound patterns and make predictions, and the second which evaluates the outcomes of these predictions and generates positive (or negative) emotions depending on expectations.
As I said, I can also add to these findings since I don't see the effect of the "I've already heard" factor here. It is my experience that when you're familiar with a piece of music there's no longer a place for predictions. That's why I wrote from the start that the ?! factor is inversely proportional to the amount of music that someone has already experienced.
This is just a very synthetic recount of the full theory which was posted on a music forum many years ago and spans multiple pages. I got a lot of vitriol for presenting my "theory" back then, probably because it was too long-winded and not suited to the medium it was created for. I am glad that this is being partly validated by a neuroscientist now. Better late than never, I guess.
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Found this very interesting
In Schoenberg’s discovery of Atonal 12, there was more than just a preferential shift in the appeal of music, there was a tectonic shift in the understanding of what music does to the brain.
The Stanford Research Institute in conjunction with Tavistock UK explored what these presentations of musical structure do to the brain. Look into it.
Don't know if our moterator here reads these comments, but with the Casio lighted key piano we turned my Grandaughter dislexic into a 4.2 grade avrage on the mentor program..! God and I, we..!
How plz tell me
as for the money for music part of the vid, personally i liked the middle bit best.
I'd love to know how music affects deaf people, because they do still enjoy music.
and how is that if they're deaf?
Vibrations and frequencies don't need an ear drum.
@@dimon7026 vibration and other senses which are heightened
I went here after listening to Bach's cantata BWV 140
12:40 T.E.D ( the producer) Wow that song takes me back to the 2010’s. Surprised he used that intro. Groovy.
t.e.e.d.
This is great!! What is the name of the piece by Bartok that you played at the beginning? I love it, Bartok helped me to understand so much when I studied music in college.
I wish there was an answer to this question
PLEASE
Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta, Sz. 106: IV. Allegro molto
we found it my friends
@@ana1590am nice
Great talk
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I have questions.
Will any physical activity which requires precision and intense practice will have a similar impact on the brain?
What about people who are specific musical anhedonic?
Please someone, what is the NAME of that first song played by Béla Bartók, please!? THANKS!!!!
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What are the neurological benefits of MAKING music (instrumental or choral), either solo or together, in connecting the parts of the brain, deriving pleasure, neurological development, etc.? How are the benefits of passive listening to music and making instrumental or choral music different? I would bet that MAKING music offers more benefits than just listening to it...
Anyone know the source of the songs starting from 12:17? They sound so banger and I want to hear the full version
The first two I don't know but the third song is called "Garden" by Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs
This is a very interesting subject, I was trying to find information regarding incarcerated individuals and how their brains adapt to structuring songs in jail with out the actual rhythm. Does anything change when you don't have anything to sing along to? Can they play chess with out a board?
whats the name of the album?
It was kind of groovy.
This explains to me why I can't get any volume on this cell phone! Prevents me from listening to my happiness music 70's Loud ~ that keeps, me healthy! I want the volume on this Alcatel ( < all cattle 🤨 ) Turned up! There is a code, but they won't allow me in anymore! 65 years old > Turn The Volume Up! I find it very inconsiderate I should be able to control my own volume! 🤬
The commentary on the relationship between the auditory and motor centres in the brain betray a eurocentric bias. For the lecturer, the phenomenon that requires explanation is the incredible capacity of humans to produce physical movements that create music; for many other people around the world, the beauty of music is its capacity to cause physical movement in the listener.
There is no contradiction. People across cultures (Western or not) enjoy moving to music. But in order to move to music, of any culture, someone has to produce it by singing or playing an instrument. There is nothing "eurocentric" about it.
@@robertzatorre797I agree that there is no contradiction; to study the neuroscience of music production is not to say it is superior to dance. However, for many people in the world and for (i would guess) most of human history, production of rhythm required less dexterity and intricate control of tools. The choice to study classical musicianship in order to understand the neuroscience of audio-motor entrainment instead of studying the brain during dance (I belive) reflect the author's cultural background rather than it being selected as the logical place to start.
Singing also requires a great deal of motor skills.
2 sides of the same coin.
Dancing is synchronizing your body to the sounds generated by the movements of the musician, the musician is synchronizing their movements to their mental image of what they want to play, and perhaps even to the movements they want to drive in their audience, coming full circle.
Some musicians get crowd participation in the form of singing, another case of the crowd synchronizing movements (of their vocal systems) to the movements of the performer.
Even to untrained dancers who might find most musical cues too complex to follow, the act of clapping in sync to the beat gives pleasure, (no matter how poorly they do it, lmao).
@@theigneous Speaking from an Asian American standpoint, there are a lot of musical instruments from Asia that require just as much dexterity as European musical instruments. The erhu, the pipa, the guzheng, the koto, the guqin, the shamisen, and many more fit under this category.
I find some of the music annoying, and his points are almost lost in his wandering speaking style. jmo
loop between auditory and motor area
zum Musik machen muss man super akkurat sein: Ramon y Cajal: brain might be physical changed by training (da mehr rein gehen, leute wissen das nicht) --> NEUROPLASTTIZITÄT (besser in jüngeren jähren)
Musiker haben dickere bahnen ein auditorischem, motorischen und höhere exekutive Funktionen, aber in zsmhang mit wann angefangen wurde mit musikalischem Training
Pleasure from music:
Striatum: aktiviert bei essen, Dopamin,
bei essen Bildern, monetary, food, erotic rewards --> ähnliche Aktivierung
blood flow, dopamine uptake und bildgebende Verfahren steigt bei Musik die wir mögen
je mehr wir ein lied mögen, desto stärker sind Verbindungen zu motor kortex : emotion & reward system und kognitive system !
power of music: diese beiden stark entwickelte Bereiche verbinden
I'm 25, if I start learning an instrument now, will my brain change at all?
Musician doesn't want their brain to change, but they love the music and then start playing. This is a great changing.
Yes, it will just be more difficult to learn. I recommend learning piano or guitar
@@matthewwynn3025 i wanna learn the viola
@@mesho95f ah that's cool, one of my good friends from highschool was a violist, it's a great instrument
Don’t let nobody tell you what you can’t do
Why is no one bothered by the fact that he called rock music, mediocre... :-[
Because that's his personal opinion :3
He meant that he listened to the pop rock that dominated the radio back then, without paying much thought to it.
"Same as his peers" he said.
I think he meant the particular songs he was listening to, as oppose to the genre. There are always variations between the depth of songs in every category
Hahahahahahahaha 😂
Because there are two types of music, good or bad, regardless of genre.
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Dislikes are mainly from lazy people who don’t like what they’re being told.
no wonder all great musicians are addicts?
Stevie Wonder is not!!
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