It is actually funny because NL was yelled at for 2000 episodes that he skipped tons of consumables. Dailies changed the way his brain started to play, and now we are like "IT'S A SPEEDRUN NL CHANNEL YOUR OLD SELF."
I would advise playing as The Lost for the It's the Key challenge, you wont need HP (and dont accidentally take red hearts) and you get free deal with the devil. Helps a lot.
Congratulations. I am not as skilled as you are. I tend to take damage when I'm up close because of Azazel's limited range. The Lost has Holy Mantle on each room and range and spectral tears so it's easier to be out of harm's way. As azazel you can pick up health upgrades but you cannot freely take any devil deal like you can with the lost.
Even after NL gets this achievo, I think he should still try and do speed runs on occasion. This episode got mah blood pumping a lot more than the average vid. Lots of split second decisions.
Oh man, the "It's the Key" achievement made me doubt my will so hard, after maybe 35 tries I ended getting it, and mostly of the failed tries was on the Dark Room where I ended picking up a soul heart or a red heart... just frustrating.
Hello northernlion there is a very easy trick to how you can get this achievement. What you do is you defeat the lamb normally then you do the victory lap 1 or 2 times. After this you should be stacked up on hp and fairly OP. Then you find a self sacrifice room and play that until you teleport to the lamb floor and defeat the lamb under 20 min
Should've used more bombs on Seoul floor to leave rooms quicker and you shoulda took deals with the devils instead of angels as it'd give you a higher chance at getting the shovel
I would think the real gimmick of the achievement is to use sacrifice rooms. Get a strong start and then skip directly from an early floor to the dark room
Id think the best way to achieve this would be self sacrifice room teleport so maybe doing this with Maggy is the best idea assuming u can get a a great dps upgrade like moms knife early
Geeez, you had enough HP to go for a sacrifice room. Even with preparations, you would have been much faster than fighting through all of womb and sheol. (and arrived with similar HP)
use azazel, always enter treasure rooms, pray for ludo, thats how i won, because if you are not OP, you will maybe get to the lamb, but not kill it in time, the last try i did before beating it, i killed the lamb 1 second late
NL be like "there's probably only 2 ones I legitimately haven't done" hahaha no, there's quite a few ones you never did at all, including but not limited to the one for looping like 3 times not just once. I'm still waiting for NL to do a loop streak, he ignored them entirely because "it's too easy" but that's because he never went that far.
I like how everyone was like "self sacrifice hurr durr" but the real issue here was he is still giving angel rooms a chance. Face it dude. Your strongest runs, fastest runs, AND best runs all had devil deals and not any angel. You have never EVER had a strong angel-only run... at least not even half as good as an average devil run. I do not feel like playing the seed, but willing to bet this was a 12-15 minute run if you took devils. Edit: And if he self sac'd, he would have to low hp beat lamb on his base dmg. Not at all impossible, but much easier to just 1-shot it.
"This gate room is going to take to much time." It's a good thing they don't give you the option of bombing your way out. Still, double curse of the lost is incredibly bad luck.
Good play would've allowed you to use the C2 sacrifice room all the way & skip straight to Dank Room, which paired with Crystal Ball from the super secret room & Holy Mantle from the 7th sac room play, would've been a quick Zip achievment clear. I also had time to no-hit Mega Stan before 20 minutes passed, but that's aside the point.
which information? the one that saysy things like 1.35, 18.75, 30, 1.00 etc down the line? Go to the options menu and click on the thing that says "Found HUD" and turn that on.
Game shat on you bud. Took most of us tons of tries to get it, the game had to do THAT to you to STOP you from getting it. But next time devil rooms, please. You probably would've already, but I wonder if it would've gone a bit better.
NL, if you're going to do a challenge, at least take it seriously. Damage is what makes you faster and you ignored all the devil deals. There are no bonus points for accomplishing a goal while making life harder on yourself.
Northernlion logic: After update there are 50 bad pills and 2 good pills in the entire fucking game, uuuuh im gonna go for this. OH NO ITS A BAD PILL! AGAIN! Well there was no way to foresee that, the games just bullshit sometimes!
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Going for the Zip challenge
Does angel deals
"Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer"
all i can think of is "complains when taking devil deals, complains when taking angel deals, there's no pleasing you people"
Joao Batista Perin Junior i think the idea was going for god head or sacred heart
Joao Batista Perin Junior Without angel rooms it wouldn't be Z A N Y enough though
Max Evans he got Midas touch, wanted invincibility, and decided to take angel deals instead. I'm not mad that he took angel deals, just confused.
+Max Evans We only complained about angel deals in Antibirth ONLY, no one wants angel deals on AB+ and this is common sense even for the Egg
Gee golly whiz if only there was some sort of way to get to the Dark Room easily. maybe some sort of sacrifice mechanic hmmm
Executive Taxi wow, it's almost as if dailies should have taught him something.
Executive Taxi sarcastic fucks
Connor Green do you not have auto correct
Why egg picks up meaningless consumables and items on a speed challenge, i'll never know.
To be fair, he has the added challenge of commentating it.
It is actually funny because NL was yelled at for 2000 episodes that he skipped tons of consumables. Dailies changed the way his brain started to play, and now we are like "IT'S A SPEEDRUN NL CHANNEL YOUR OLD SELF."
habit you can't blame him for struggling when after many years of playing the same way with the same rules you have to do something different
I would advise playing as The Lost for the It's the Key challenge, you wont need HP (and dont accidentally take red hearts) and you get free deal with the devil. Helps a lot.
"We're gonna use bombs to get out of the rooms we don't wanna fight in"
It's 3:20 I have holidays and watch NL. Life is good
Oh boy he finally took the 30 seconds it requires to look up what he needs to 100%, praise be.
its the key is surprisingly easy with the lost because of mobility and devil deals.
its also easier with azazel, cause azazel is effectiviely a better lost with brimstone
Max Evans Except with azazel you have less hp, since lost has holy mantle
Max Evans azazel is not "effectively" the lost at all.
I actually had a hard time with azazel because of the range and limited health. but im generally pretty terrible with azazel and his range.
Congratulations. I am not as skilled as you are. I tend to take damage when I'm up close because of Azazel's limited range. The Lost has Holy Mantle on each room and range and spectral tears so it's easier to be out of harm's way. As azazel you can pick up health upgrades but you cannot freely take any devil deal like you can with the lost.
pls keep doing this kind of thing, I may be new and I may be drunk but this is much more entertaining than your last 20 rund
Even after NL gets this achievo, I think he should still try and do speed runs on occasion. This episode got mah blood pumping a lot more than the average vid. Lots of split second decisions.
Must be a speedrun-
Oh, it actually is a speedrun-
GOSH DARNIT EGG WHY MUST YOU TOY WITH MY EMOTIONS
*Tries to do a sub 20 speedrun* "OH SHIT let's take 5 seconds of this time to pick up a 14th fucking key"
Welcome back to the binding of Isaac, where recently we have been having the most strange and powerful runs
You still need the victory lap achievement.
bad and dumb damage at
2:09, 3:00, 3:22, 4:19, 4:35, 7:19, 10:10, 11:25, 12:17, 13:55, 14:47, 16:18, 16:23, 17:06, 17:54, 19:20, 19:25, 19:52, 20:42, 21:28, 21:33, 21:53, 22:00, 22:08
Spent a better part of the run trying to predict based on the timestamp and current progress whether he would make it
Honestly you can't complain about bad luck when you take fucking 4 angel deals on a speedrun
Also skipped two item rooms and picked up the rosary
I saw Zip in the title and had a mind-blow moment, had no idea what to expect xD
Not going to give your HP to self sacrifice rooms to teleport to the dark room early with Azazel?
Good stuff, I like the variety.
Oh man, the "It's the Key" achievement made me doubt my will so hard, after maybe 35 tries I ended getting it, and mostly of the failed tries was on the Dark Room where I ended picking up a soul heart or a red heart... just frustrating.
If the run is to the Lamb, why not reset until you get a viable sacrifice room run?
Hello northernlion there is a very easy trick to how you can get this achievement. What you do is you defeat the lamb normally then you do the victory lap 1 or 2 times. After this you should be stacked up on hp and fairly OP. Then you find a self sacrifice room and play that until you teleport to the lamb floor and defeat the lamb under 20 min
rip the zip
great run up till the end and that was just bad luck lol
Should've used more bombs on Seoul floor to leave rooms quicker and you shoulda took deals with the devils instead of angels as it'd give you a higher chance at getting the shovel
Hey NL, you should consider doing these speedruns occasionally. This was exciting to watch.
"We popped that deal with the devil cherry"
- NL
What the actual fuck NL
No matter how you play, I will always watch, Eggy.
i like the speed runs
I would think the real gimmick of the achievement is to use sacrifice rooms. Get a strong start and then skip directly from an early floor to the dark room
can you feel the sodium chloride
Oliver Van Den Ende salt is sodium chloride if that's what your after
Chris Bloomer yes thank you.
Incredibly fast and incredibly strong… Sounds like my pull out game
22 minute video? Wow, must be a speedrun.
You could have ended it in 15minuted maaan just play that self sacrifice room and skip 5 floors 😩🙃🙃 hope you see that comment for the future 👌
Antoine Vincent No, he never had the hp to do that
Antoine Vincent not enough health
i've tried to do that I never have quite enough health
TheMiningDog he was at full health at some point after the angels deal
ŁørD ÂpBágēł he was at some point full hp
Id think the best way to achieve this would be self sacrifice room teleport so maybe doing this with Maggy is the best idea assuming u can get a a great dps upgrade like moms knife early
i've been trying to do this
getting a solid damage up quickly isn't that easy, and requires a lot of restarting
egg says he'll skip unnecessary rooms.
proceeds to do every room he enters.
I wanted nl to win this one. He did pretty well.
Geeez, you had enough HP to go for a sacrifice room. Even with preparations, you would have been much faster than fighting through all of womb and sheol. (and arrived with similar HP)
brutal curse of the lost but an exciting run
use azazel, always enter treasure rooms, pray for ludo, thats how i won, because if you are not OP, you will maybe get to the lamb, but not kill it in time, the last try i did before beating it, i killed the lamb 1 second late
So where are the mod runs?
Wait you can get a deal with a devil and a gift from an angel at the same time? I didn't know that.
Oi, eggmaster.
You need to arrange a Hollow Knight playlist already.
*_EDIT:_* HE'S DONE IT!
Must be a... oh wait
22 minutes must be a spee... oh
how does nl feel about the charge bar?
that curse was so bad for the dark room lol
The idea NL, is to kill The Lamb on a victory lap under 20mins wich it counts for the achievement.
victory lap disables achievements
Victory laps disable achievements unless you exit and continue. I believe this is an exploit.
no it doesnt. victory laps dont let you get achievements besides the victory lap achievement. i tried this with delirium runs as well
Renzo Matta how stupid are u, it disables achievements
Sean Read the post I linked?
NL be like "there's probably only 2 ones I legitimately haven't done" hahaha no, there's quite a few ones you never did at all, including but not limited to the one for looping like 3 times not just once.
I'm still waiting for NL to do a loop streak, he ignored them entirely because "it's too easy" but that's because he never went that far.
that was fucking hilarious
I literally just got this achievement today, on the same day that this was uploaded
Nebula Dragon crazy
why would you pick up pennies?? what's the use?
This challenge is so easy, just play azazel and reset until you get something like the mind or epic fetus to get through all the floors easy.
You can do this on Normal, Egg man.
a v e r y b o d y
I like how everyone was like "self sacrifice hurr durr" but the real issue here was he is still giving angel rooms a chance. Face it dude. Your strongest runs, fastest runs, AND best runs all had devil deals and not any angel. You have never EVER had a strong angel-only run... at least not even half as good as an average devil run. I do not feel like playing the seed, but willing to bet this was a 12-15 minute run if you took devils.
Edit: And if he self sac'd, he would have to low hp beat lamb on his base dmg. Not at all impossible, but much easier to just 1-shot it.
Still thinks I'm Excited lasts the entire floor, huh?
If anything grab deal with the angels when you don't have HP for deal with the devils dude goat would have literally made you unstoppable
Hey NL. I have a tip for you. Don't get hit.
Kappa.
Lmfao for the end
"This gate room is going to take to much time." It's a good thing they don't give you the option of bombing your way out. Still, double curse of the lost is incredibly bad luck.
In my perspective, being at the bottom is first
Curse of the Lost twice in a row is some bullshit though
Dude that was just so rude of the game. You played this run so damn well and the game still fucked you raw. I hope you get the achievement soon! Gg!
what about Rerun?
You still needed to loop one more time
lionTilt lionTilt lionTilt
I love you Northerndaddy
You missed some geo egglord
Self Sacrifice rooms?????
UNLIMITED POWEEER
well i enojoyed that run
gimmE daGAZ!! ):
Must be a spee... oh touché NL
Eggman!
I've never seen an Angel room and Devil room spawn on the same floor. Is that common and it's just because I almost always go devil deals?
oh it was equality oops
it's because he took the item "Duality"
Charsept duality, that's it, thank you
Solarsmile7514 I THOUGHT THE SAME EXACT THING. MY MIND WAS BLOWN
Great Rhyno Haha I have a lot to learn in plus.
Watching NL force himself to remember to take The Negative feels like watching a 4 year old learn how rude a bike.
Don't ask me how or why.
ZIP ZOOM
Good play would've allowed you to use the C2 sacrifice room all the way & skip straight to Dank Room, which paired with Crystal Ball from the super secret room & Holy Mantle from the 7th sac room play, would've been a quick Zip achievment clear.
I also had time to no-hit Mega Stan before 20 minutes passed, but that's aside the point.
A Zane a day keeps the Nl away
Why I don't have that character informations at left side of menu? I only have picture and mark with Hardmode or Greedmode
which information? the one that saysy things like 1.35, 18.75, 30, 1.00 etc down the line?
Go to the options menu and click on the thing that says "Found HUD" and turn that on.
No, I mean in menu. When you are on "continue" and there is character, but here is time and floor too.
Mupp rebirth or afterbirth?
I'm saying about Greed Mode, it would be Rebirth? Afterbirth+
Game shat on you bud. Took most of us tons of tries to get it, the game had to do THAT to you to STOP you from getting it. But next time devil rooms, please. You probably would've already, but I wonder if it would've gone a bit better.
Give XCOM or I will scramble you, egg
fudge
i did it and got no achivement, and yes i didn't have any mods on
did you do it on a rerun? or a looped run?
what's a rerun? i did no victory loop atleast
Notification but was drunk and only saw it a couple of hours later crew: SQUAD UP!
No matter how you play, I will alaways watch, Eggy.
henlo egg
Pretty nice speedrun, zip-zoom.
Couldn't you just use the sacrifice room for this?
I just saw a HowToBasic video and he killed like 3 million of NL's brothers.
why you didn't take the devil deals, you dummy .. xD
NL, if you're going to do a challenge, at least take it seriously.
Damage is what makes you faster and you ignored all the devil deals.
There are no bonus points for accomplishing a goal while making life harder on yourself.
Northernlion logic: After update there are 50 bad pills and 2 good pills in the entire fucking game, uuuuh im gonna go for this. OH NO ITS A BAD PILL! AGAIN! Well there was no way to foresee that, the games just bullshit sometimes!
play on normal. less curses.
Has no one commented on it being a speed run?
22 minute run... Must be a speedrun. Oh wait
I actually have 3,000,000%. Where you at, NL-- still at 1001%.
Overconfidence gave me Pancreatic Cancer.
That wasn't a joke, either. Yaaaayyy..
vision boy hello darkness my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
22 minutes? Must be too slow
Speedrun?
NL do you remember going through puberty? it SUCKS
Oppai Kitty espetially the third one.
22:43? Must be a speedrun