This is more than meets the eye, the protoss had some serious micro, probably had shift+F3 on main to click back and forth to regroup and resume his attack taking full advantage on probe "ranged" attacks, he also was individually and constantly clicking on weaker SCV to take them out quickly... Notice how he pulled the weaker probes back before resuming the skirmishes... We witnessed something truly amazing.
also, Artosis did not commit to attacking back with all scvs when he had the chance (when there were still more scvs than probes).. he didnt really micro or repair either, he just tried to keep mining and that allowed that microing protoss to take the scvs 1 by 1 (not to mention he wasted 2! precious scvs trying to finish a, at that point, totally useless supply depot). So in a way we also witnessed something truly awful
you overreacting here, its just artosis fucked up with his micro big time, almost like cpu level micro "pulling back and targeting weaker units" this is basic micro known since 98
@@eud64_ there's 2 sides to every game. Yes the protoss player microed like a god, but Artosis on the other hand, microed like total shit, allowing the protoss to get away with it out of sheer incompetence.
Its not a all-in really. All in is sacrifice future economy or tech for a advantage of short time, but here the protos is at a disadvantage, relying only on his micro
This is actually very common on ladder in Korea - mini in particular used to do it everytime he met a sub 2600 terran on stream and won the vast majority of the time. The control is insane.
The seriousness by the "that doesnt feel right" followd up by twitching eyes and that handwhake after the random dono question. It delivers on a high note
he didnt rage that time, like, he was in such disbelief that that actually happend. This is one of the few scenarios where I actually feel like "yeah thats imba" there is truly nothing you could possibly do to win. even pros can lose to that, it happend in ASL not too long ago
because if you are getting smashed by probe pull there is nothing you can legit rage about, he got outmicroed into oblivion. Even he understands this despite complete lack of self-awareness.
A simple a move would not have won him the fight as the probes have better range and an arc around workers that would have to funnel in through a choke... its like zerglings in zvz except the other guy is going to have more range and better surface area. He didnt fail an A move, he needed to commit to a full surround and just utilize his >SCV hp without letting probes kite and regen shields.
some math for those who care: artosis had 1 more worker than toss at the start of the fight and could queue 2 more, SCVs have 50% more hp than probes and can repair each other toss has only minor shield regen which would allow probes to take 2 more hits at best (still worse than SCV hp) and had the element of surprise and mad micro skill with 420 apm
Probes also have faster acceleration and 1 more range, but yes Arty still had the advantage and threw. Amazing that someone would even attempt this strat, given how weak it is. Maybe they are just practicing worker micro or are S+ and fast grinding MMR.
I mean to be fair, that's doing that at maximum effectiveness. If you pay attention, the movement of the probes is fucking insane. It's very clear this person has practiced this a lot. It's not really that much of a deal for him to lose to this, it's pretty normal. He's said before, a lot of times in starcraft if you dont control perfectly you can just die. This is one of those times.
can you explain the micro to me? like why did artosis go back to actually mine? it's meaningless right? as long as he keeps his scvs alive. i understand sending them to mine to get them to bunch up a little but he was actually mining during that....
Ok, but don't SCV's like have 60 hp vs probes' 40 and he like build 2-3 more? Also Artosis was so humbled by this one, he didn't call his enemy stupid or a moron or bad. He just silently lost his mind.
lol, the metal gear solid music going on as the donation is read. And this is one of the worst ways to lose. Artosis was trying so hard and you can see it in his face.
There's levels to this shit. Guarantee the protoss clicked thru Artosis scv 100+ times checking health of each scv while microing this. And Artosis, maybe 5 times? LOL
His mistake was to pull SCVs in the first place. He should keep gathering minerals and making SCVs, because his one and only advantage in this scenario is the fact that he can gather resources while his opponent can't.
@@ETBrooD how on earth could he keep on mining when probes are killing his scvs? He died because of it! If he keeps mining like he did, scvs will get picked 1 by 1, and they did
yeah came here to post this, had to scroll too far to find it. at the very least don't lose 2scv trying to finish it. Cancelling it to have money for more scv is an even better move here
after watching so many his rage videos , I finally realized his problem is his micro..........a lot of the times he got cheesed, his micro wasn't good enough to outplay the cheese, thus he los to cheese A LOT
The problem with artosis is.. "can't teach a old dog new tricks" he refuses to learn from his mistakes and blames everything but himself. That's probably why he's never really won anything major.
Don’t lost 2 scvs building depot. Cancel depot. move with 10 scvs. When lose 2 scvs run across the map. Build two more scvs. Then a move again. Then when lose 2 scvs run around some more. Build two more scvs. A move again. He could have had like 14+ scvs to fight with. Instead his response was literally worse than a move and pray. He wouldn’t even need micro to beat this.
a moving into an arc of probes with better range and surface area would not have won that. he would have needed to surround somehow, maybe lift the CC to get some around and full commit.
However, the probe's attack (and the drone's attack too) is slightly ranged as opposed to the SCV's truly melee attack, and the probe moves slightly faster than the SCV. Not an insane advantage, but there's that.
@@thiaahmin7176 No problem. I will clarify one thing: the SCV's attack is melee, as opposed to the other workers' attacks, but for some reason the game considers it ranged, that's why it cannot do damage to units under dark swarm (and actually that might be the reason why the game labels is as "ranged").
Picking off lone workers and mineral-walking are important in worker on worker fights in both games. Brood War's is slightly harder because of the infamously awful pathfinding and gummy acceleration in comparison to SC2, hence why probe rush man has 420 APM at the end, and no option to turn on always-on life bars so your instincts really have to be on point in ordering back damaged workers and focusing down low enemy ones. SCV's in Brood War have 20 more HP here than in SC2 where they have 5, so it's still very embarrassing for Arty to lose to this lol
@@SaulGoodman3D2049 While SCVs may have 20 more hp than Probes, Probes make up for it with slightly more vision, able to have their shields regenerate, and they have more range than a scv, which really helps.
@@thefierycharmeleon164 I saw another comment saying probes have more range and I'm curious where they got that from, 'cos it's not true. All workers are melee and have 1 range. They do have better acceleration, so maybe people just mistake probes being able to move so quickly after attacking as them "attacking from a distance."
Everyone keeps pointing out that SCVs have 60 hp and the probe is just 40. But ppl do not understand something else, the SCV attack has a cooldown of 15 frames, but the probe (and drone) have cooldown 22. So yes, SCVs actually deal more DPS than the other workers. Yet their accel and lower range rly cost you. Insane isn't it?
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@@frankbarrie6785 thanks Frank for being a part of our community
Love u!
This is exactly how blizzard had envisioned starcraft to be played. Peak RTS performance.
"why do the workers even have an attack?"
-me at age 11
In warcraft 1 they didn't!
"That dosnt feel right" describes his last 20 years of playing TvP LOL
😂
SC should just be bugs and men. No aliens.
Lol
Actually one of the most reasonable reactions you could have expected here. I mean. I would probably rage way harder
This is more than meets the eye, the protoss had some serious micro, probably had shift+F3 on main to click back and forth to regroup and resume his attack taking full advantage on probe "ranged" attacks, he also was individually and constantly clicking on weaker SCV to take them out quickly... Notice how he pulled the weaker probes back before resuming the skirmishes... We witnessed something truly amazing.
also, Artosis did not commit to attacking back with all scvs when he had the chance (when there were still more scvs than probes).. he didnt really micro or repair either, he just tried to keep mining and that allowed that microing protoss to take the scvs 1 by 1 (not to mention he wasted 2! precious scvs trying to finish a, at that point, totally useless supply depot). So in a way we also witnessed something truly awful
can you explain the shift+f3 on main? idk much about brood war im an sc2/aoe player
you overreacting here, its just artosis fucked up with his micro big time, almost like cpu level micro
"pulling back and targeting weaker units" this is basic micro known since 98
@@volter84 That's your opinion and that's fine. Happy gaming.
@@eud64_ there's 2 sides to every game. Yes the protoss player microed like a god, but Artosis on the other hand, microed like total shit, allowing the protoss to get away with it out of sheer incompetence.
Now THIS is an all-in.
The most pure form of all-in.
I always leave two probes/scvs to mine, in case the all-in turns into a long macro-game.
Now this is pod racing
@@--___--d low T maneuver
Its not a all-in really. All in is sacrifice future economy or tech for a advantage of short time, but here the protos is at a disadvantage, relying only on his micro
Artie got 99 probe-lems and protoss is all of them.
Lol!
write a rap song about arty, you'll be famouse
@@ironspirit3823you mean like the 8 pool rap?
This is actually very common on ladder in Korea - mini in particular used to do it everytime he met a sub 2600 terran on stream and won the vast majority of the time. The control is insane.
is this more op than 5 pool?
The seriousness by the "that doesnt feel right" followd up by twitching eyes and that handwhake after the random dono question. It delivers on a high note
Handshake*
yeah, "that doesn't feel right..." ;]
@@PumpFistPUNK *wave
he didnt rage that time, like, he was in such disbelief that that actually happend.
This is one of the few scenarios where I actually feel like "yeah thats imba"
there is truly nothing you could possibly do to win. even pros can lose to that, it happend in ASL not too long ago
@@synka5922 link to ASL game?
That Artosis...he never had the makings of a varsity gamer.
Fucking HuskyStarcraft ova here.
Small hands. That was his problem.
@@Footsoldier1234 he was gay, HuskyStarcraft?
@@VenomousStare Yeah, TotalBiscuit too...I think.
Microing scvs whateva happened there
Lmao stunned and speechless that was a thing of beauty
he starts off so happy.. then that guy fucks up his entire day with 9 probes
This game is fucking BRUTAL !
Artosis swinging a club around, while his opponent is performing a dance of his people.
Monsoon speech going on as the probes murdered artosis is a work of art
"Monsoon speech" ?
Lmaoooo
Minerals, the DNA of the soul
he probably could've won if he didnt micro lmao
Was thinking the exact same thing. If he just a-moved he probably wins. His control was more damaging than helpful.
Very well said
A new level of hatred for protoss has been reached
Surprised Artosis didn't rage.
I'm super chill compared to him and I probably would have.
It's not these kinds of things that pop him off. It's shit like dumb unit pathing and cross spawn nexus first that make him go mental lol
yeah, "that doesn't feel right..." ;]
because if you are getting smashed by probe pull there is nothing you can legit rage about, he got outmicroed into oblivion. Even he understands this despite complete lack of self-awareness.
Because despite the hyper cheese, that was awesome micro by the opponent
To be real though, there are very few people on the planet that aren't chill compared to Artosis
I always feel like when watching artosis, that if only he pressed A left click, he would be much better off then what he does with his mouse.
I think a lot of people in both StarCraft games don't realize that micro doesn't mean individual unit control.
yeah, i can't believe arty failed A move in this game, holy
A simple a move would not have won him the fight as the probes have better range and an arc around workers that would have to funnel in through a choke... its like zerglings in zvz except the other guy is going to have more range and better surface area. He didnt fail an A move, he needed to commit to a full surround and just utilize his >SCV hp without letting probes kite and regen shields.
haha. cinematic Gold. the probe commander should be awarded a oscar.
As long as he doesn't slap the comedian in the face.
@@aarondworshak6689 i dont think he'll risk a 10 year ban from the oscars. will have to wear a nappy to control himself.
Could almost see steam coming out of Arto's ears
I can’t believe he didn’t flip out at that
2:11 the eye twitching, he's doing his best to hold it in
This is peak starcraft and nobody can tell me otherwise
This is like the funniest video ever. Compare the smile at the beginning of the vid to his twitching at the end. Gold
Lol I wish I was in chat this night. He actually took it pretty well.
i learned something fundamentally true from watching this. artosis can't micro for sht and he looks down on microing his units i guess
If you listen to Artosis, you will learn that he only loses to really bad players.
@@EebstertheGreat He inherited that from Idra, he could have maybe learned a bit of macro as well lmao
@@eggaiugmaybe idra inherited it from him?
some math for those who care:
artosis had 1 more worker than toss at the start of the fight and could queue 2 more, SCVs have 50% more hp than probes and can repair each other
toss has only minor shield regen which would allow probes to take 2 more hits at best (still worse than SCV hp) and had the element of surprise and mad micro skill with 420 apm
Probes also have faster acceleration and 1 more range, but yes Arty still had the advantage and threw. Amazing that someone would even attempt this strat, given how weak it is. Maybe they are just practicing worker micro or are S+ and fast grinding MMR.
I mean to be fair, that's doing that at maximum effectiveness. If you pay attention, the movement of the probes is fucking insane. It's very clear this person has practiced this a lot. It's not really that much of a deal for him to lose to this, it's pretty normal. He's said before, a lot of times in starcraft if you dont control perfectly you can just die. This is one of those times.
that wasn't quick. Where's the manager?
can you explain the micro to me? like why did artosis go back to actually mine? it's meaningless right? as long as he keeps his scvs alive. i understand sending them to mine to get them to bunch up a little but he was actually mining during that....
Terrans dont use math. And it is a problem.
Artosis is the reverse FLash ... and such a good missed opportunity for some Mario erotica
Is this like a paradox or something? It's _always_ time for Mario erotica
😂😂😂😂
Reverse Flash
Ok, but don't SCV's like have 60 hp vs probes' 40 and he like build 2-3 more? Also Artosis was so humbled by this one, he didn't call his enemy stupid or a moron or bad. He just silently lost his mind.
probes regen and SCV dont
@@greenwave819 but still he had more
"That doesn't feel right" just give it time. You'll learn to love it
Lol true
lol, the metal gear solid music going on as the donation is read. And this is one of the worst ways to lose. Artosis was trying so hard and you can see it in his face.
There's levels to this shit. Guarantee the protoss clicked thru Artosis scv 100+ times checking health of each scv while microing this. And Artosis, maybe 5 times? LOL
yep, very poor reaction by Artosis.. he lost 2 scvs trying to finish that supply depot which by then was already pointless and the rest.. well....
@@inmundo6927 He should had cancelled it to have more money for scvs
@@CamaradaArdi agreed and have enough money to repair scvs too
Wow he took that very well.. I was waiting for, I try so hard !
Why did he continue to gather minerals when it clearly was an all-in?? Crazy
Mineral stack without it being on purpose??
His mistake was to pull SCVs in the first place. He should keep gathering minerals and making SCVs, because his one and only advantage in this scenario is the fact that he can gather resources while his opponent can't.
@@roymcdre9180 lol
@@ETBrooD He wasn't close to a barracks at all since he went depot first. Hell he barely finished the depot.
@@ETBrooD how on earth could he keep on mining when probes are killing his scvs? He died because of it! If he keeps mining like he did, scvs will get picked 1 by 1, and they did
if Artosis just cancel supply depo he just wins tho
totally! or better yet, if he just grabs all scvs and attacks back, he just wins.. but seems to be too busy "macroing", cause he plays "right"
yeah came here to post this, had to scroll too far to find it. at the very least don't lose 2scv trying to finish it. Cancelling it to have money for more scv is an even better move here
Oh my.....his many facial reactions to just SEEING the probes 🤣
He just sits there and makes probes.
wow BRUTAL ....
i can feel the anger from across the globe
He really played with that sheild Regen nicely.
that face change and losing an scv trying to finish a depot instantly LUL
his face went from having fun to triggered af within seconds.
Lolol. His face!
That was the ultimate in micro battles
emasculated.
the anti micro was spot on
0:08 his goddamn face!!! LOL
"My name is Probesoon, of the Rush of Probestruction"
This is how ive been playing starcraft the whole time and no one believed me
Protoss player: Why am i wasting my time with theese clowns? This is not good practice
Artosis: REEEEEEEE
I would just delete the game after this and never touch it again. This is just..... bruh.
WORKER FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*que Down with the Sickness*
Starting the Video with a Metal gear Rising Revengence meme...Life is good
Artosis looks like Kermit the frog getting abused while playing starcraft!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Let's appreciate how he just contemplated in silence the ownage XD
after watching so many his rage videos , I finally realized his problem is his micro..........a lot of the times he got cheesed, his micro wasn't good enough to outplay the cheese, thus he los to cheese A LOT
That probe micro was actually insane
Best posible music xD
So that is why Artosis thinks probes are OP XD
The problem with artosis is.. "can't teach a old dog new tricks" he refuses to learn from his mistakes and blames everything but himself. That's probably why he's never really won anything major.
well he got blizzcon hearthstone?xD
weird comment
LOL gottem with the probe rush
Lmao that's a hearty kek thank you
the micro was certainly something
That shit was god tier micro. Wtf man.
I bet it doesn’t feel right, RT… ya got rekt!!!
Don’t lost 2 scvs building depot. Cancel depot. move with 10 scvs. When lose 2 scvs run across the map. Build two more scvs. Then a move again. Then when lose 2 scvs run around some more. Build two more scvs. A move again. He could have had like 14+ scvs to fight with. Instead his response was literally worse than a move and pray. He wouldn’t even need micro to beat this.
a moving into an arc of probes with better range and surface area would not have won that. he would have needed to surround somehow, maybe lift the CC to get some around and full commit.
I just came for the Artosis rage.
He didn't even rage about it!!! he is completely owned!!!
Fun Fact: The SCVs in Broodwar have higher HP than Probes(60 vs 40) and Dear Artosis still lost。
However, the probe's attack (and the drone's attack too) is slightly ranged as opposed to the SCV's truly melee attack, and the probe moves slightly faster than the SCV. Not an insane advantage, but there's that.
@@Crateron1 I see, thanks for your detailed explanations。
@@thiaahmin7176 No problem. I will clarify one thing: the SCV's attack is melee, as opposed to the other workers' attacks, but for some reason the game considers it ranged, that's why it cannot do damage to units under dark swarm (and actually that might be the reason why the game labels is as "ranged").
@@Crateron1 Thanks for your latest clarifications
@@Crateron1
You are right with what you said, except one thing, scvs move with the same speed as probes.
Ranks player being owned by meme build - 1921 colorized
Hahahaha i love arty, great channel love the vid titles
Defender's advantage, they say!
I will remember this moment till my dying breath. A work of art.
right away, sir
now THIS is a civil war
that look in his eyes .... like "oh no i shit my pants while in public" oO
Lol, he's twitching at the end
the only thing that can make this sweeter is if the protoss is actually scan offracing on a smurf
Yet another example of why Artosis should play SC2
He stoped playing cause he sucks
Artosis would probably if he just a clicked all workers
CROURB
[ HAPPY PROBE NOISES ]
The change in his facial expression is hilarious XD
that micro though. is it different in brood war cause in sc2 you just a move and whoever hass more workers wins
That's why we love BW :D
Thats not true
Picking off lone workers and mineral-walking are important in worker on worker fights in both games. Brood War's is slightly harder because of the infamously awful pathfinding and gummy acceleration in comparison to SC2, hence why probe rush man has 420 APM at the end, and no option to turn on always-on life bars so your instincts really have to be on point in ordering back damaged workers and focusing down low enemy ones. SCV's in Brood War have 20 more HP here than in SC2 where they have 5, so it's still very embarrassing for Arty to lose to this lol
@@SaulGoodman3D2049 While SCVs may have 20 more hp than Probes, Probes make up for it with slightly more vision, able to have their shields regenerate, and they have more range than a scv, which really helps.
@@thefierycharmeleon164 I saw another comment saying probes have more range and I'm curious where they got that from, 'cos it's not true. All workers are melee and have 1 range. They do have better acceleration, so maybe people just mistake probes being able to move so quickly after attacking as them "attacking from a distance."
poor Artosis looked so god damn angry in this one
Took it surprisingly well
"DNA of the soul" 🤣
artosis about to cry
Artosis isn't a micro king.
Artosis is the DSP of SC1 players.
S tier unit afterall
Your face is priceless. Probe is the new meta
mouth apm intensifies
Probes are OP workers so no shame in that cheese
Everyone keeps pointing out that SCVs have 60 hp and the probe is just 40. But ppl do not understand something else, the SCV attack has a cooldown of 15 frames, but the probe (and drone) have cooldown 22. So yes, SCVs actually deal more DPS than the other workers.
Yet their accel and lower range rly cost you. Insane isn't it?
The more you know
Thanks! This is awesome
Good micro, by the protoss
Artosis is like tutorial difficulty here
274 APM vs. 420 APM - that doesn't feel right...
Artosis face is something different
In lore SCV’s are big as fuck so I’m
Suprised they would actually lose a fight like that
I had something like this happen to me before. Probe micro can be crazy
Homie got OWNED. That’s all. Lmao