@obgynandjuice its very analog, and that's the 'charm' in it lol. Heavy manual steering, horrible visibility, insane ingress egress. It makes the lotus Esprit look like a Lexus.
I still don’t understand why Doug hasn’t just gone back and watched his original LFA video, he was awestruck, he loved it, but now that he hasn’t driven one in 10 years, he says he hates it. And his only real complaint is the transmission which he is openly talked about how he likes in other cars.
10 years ago it was underappreciated, but now its slightly overrated with the nostalgia of a screaming V10 but other than the sound it's pretty mediocre and overpriced.
Peoples opinions change. I have on a lot of cars. Everything about the LFA is terrible except the sound of it. Thats the ONLY thing that car has going for it.
Saying no car enthusiasts liked the LFA when it was new is a nuclear take. Many people liked it, but it was priced out of affordability for most people. Almost all of those who could afford it are massively affected by brand/badge snobbery and would never buy a Lexus, no matter how good it is. If it had an Italian or German badge on it, they would have been chomping at the bit to buy it back when it was new.
Correct but idk about badge snobbery. The LFA was like $400,000 when new which was like 2x the equivalent Euro super car, just an insanely nonsensical price tag.
Love that line of argumentation too: 'people _clearly_ don't like it otherwise everyone would have bought one when it was available', as if everyone was born into money and then lucked into even more money like he has. Meanwhile he supposedly loves the NC Miata so much but hasn't owned one even though it's pocket money to him. The guy's just a complete and utter tool.
Yeah, both cars arent good by todays standards and offer a similar experience so id just buy what i think looks best. To me, thats the Testarossa and the fact that its also cheaper means its a better deal.
I have ine and drove the Countach too. It's more exciting, but I wouldnt put miles between them. Testarossa also felt better made (still crappy), but LAmbo felt like I could put it together in my shed. Rossa felt like James May could put it together in a shed.
I think the BMW i8's problem is that it looks more exotic than it actually is. Based on the styling, you'd think it was basically a BMW take on a Ferrari. When that turned out not to be true, potential buyers say on their hands.
Im straight up considering one lol its such a cool car that can be properly driven daily yet its got so much flair and style with just enough performance paired with efficiency, especially since even over a decade later it still looks ahead of our time
The i8's problem was what sane person would buy a $150k 'exotic' car that was slower than a sports saloon that same manufacturer made for less than half the price?
I think Testarossa is 100 times better looking than the countach, but i guess the crazy look of the countach makes it more iconic, while the testarosa is outshined by its much better siblings like F355
Frankly, neither of them are particularly good looking cars. They both look very cool but they both have many angles where they just don't work. Doug is completely wrong about the testarossa tho. It wasn't supposed to be a "rival" to the countach, it was a GT car, just with its engine in the middle. Also from what I've heard it's nowhere near as bad to drive as everyone says it is.
Being a teenager back then I can tell you that the Countach won the poster wars. Every teenage boy had a Countach poster, and Farrah Fawcett in the red swimsuit.
The real problem with the EQS is the the current S class. If it was simply an electric S class, it’d sell in droves, but it’s not. It’s a weird bug shaped electric car that delivers more like a model 3/y with an AMG S Class price tag. The only incentive to choose an eqs is to avoid the Tesla badge, but at such a high price point you Can choose pretty much any lux/EV car you’d like
I disagree with this. I've had both an EQS and a w221 S class. The EQS is super quiet, extremely comfortable, has the same quality air suspension and luxury. Tesla is great for its own reasons, but I didn't think the model 3 really came close in terms of delivering a super quiet, comfortable, S class style experience.
This is it. This is the argument, this is my criticism of the EQS as well, if it was just the current S Class with an electric drivetrain it would be great. I think MB has learned this lesson with the new electric G Class given that it looks exactly like the gas version
@@Ninja6485 I’m mostly speaking from a style and size viewpoint. As someone who’s admittedly never owned either, the eqs price point would send me towards products like the Blackwing or Model S, assuming I don’t just say to hell with it and get a big suv instead
@ I’m sure that’ll do well, but in that case I also believe it will be a tougher sell than a car that’s an ev. There is an element of “truck” and “I want people to know I’m no environmentalist” to larger vehicles that doesn’t really exist for large sedans and wagons
The problem with the i8 is that it looks WAY faster than it actually is. It looks like it has the performance if an NSX. If it looked more like a quirky fun car similar to an MR2, it would be loved!
Your opinion made me do a double-take. You think the i8 looks fast? Fast doesn't pop into my head when I look at it. To me it looks like a science fiction movie prop car wherein they just put some crazy body on top of whatever piece of junk they had in the Hollywood back lot, like in Robocop or something.
@xtnuser5338 it doesn't look futuristic to me at all, maybe it used to a little bit, but not to the degree you described. To me the new Santa Fe looks more futuristic than the i8. i8 has typical supercar proportions and styling elements usually associated with supercars. The original R8 looks less supercary to me, the SLS AMG, the AMG GT - they all look a lot more pedestrian, yet they outperform the i8. If the i8 was a little bit taller, maybe narrower and had the proportions closer to Alpine A110 or Volkswagen XL1, it would look just like you expect a hybrid technology mule to look. i3 in that sense nailed the design. i8 is a waste of potential, kinda like how Kia Telluride could've been the new Mohave with low range and body on frame, but they wasted a good design on a boring piece of junk.
I agree. It looks like it should be fast. While I understand that wasn't the intention, it looked like a supercar and was priced near one too. I think the i8 is cool but its styling wrote checks its powertrain couldn't cash.
I respect your opinion, although i will admit that it's true the design does look like a fast car that it actually is lol. But, IMO the i8 looks great and somehow after all these years it still looks like a modern car...
I agree with the BMW i8, I rented one on Turo and really enjoyed it! It has more than enough power for a weekend car, and the doors were so cool. You definitely feel special every time you get in the car. The real Achilles heel for this car are the repair woes and the insurance costs. My 911 is $130/month here in San Diego, the i8 was nearly $400! I suspect if you get in an accident these are difficult to repair so it’s more likely to be totaled.
The i8 qualifies for collector car insurance, which is dirt cheap. I only pay $642/year for my 2016 i8 for full coverage with glass, roadside assistance, and no deductible
You have to remember that whatever you’re quoting for insurance and collector status is specific to your state or province. These observations mean nothing in another area where the rules and costs are totally different.
@@morstyrannis1951 Collector status is set by the insurer, like Hagerty, Grundy, etc., and applies anywhere. The i8 qualifies with all of them, which I know from getting quotes. I agree that rates will vary by location and person, but collector insurance will always be much cheaper than regular car insurance, and I can’t imagine it ever being near $4800/year for an i8, from my experience with it with two cars
@@towelies4884 No mileage limit, and I remember being surprised that Grundy didn’t even ask for the mileage when I setup the policy. I previously had a policy with American Collectors Insurance for an NSX, and it also didn’t have a mileage limit. The only stipulation was agreeing that I wouldn’t use it as a dd, and had to show proof that I have a separate dd, for which I have two boring BMWs doing that duty
The INEOS’ issue is the price point…it’s designed for an old SUV off-roader enthusiast but in the price range of someone who mall crawls a G wagon 😂…so those people who just wanted the attention or something new and shiny don’t appreciate that it wasn’t really made for them, it was made for people who can’t afford them 😂
@ 🤣 bro most sell close to or even well over 100…my point isn’t that they’re directly equal, my point is both are not affordable for 95% or more of the population, so they get bought by people who mall crawl them or occasionally drive them to a ski lift…even 75k is super expensive for most people, and that’s assuming they buy the bare bones stripped down model with no mark ups…
@ sure but you can make a bronco or jeep type vehicle that tops out at around 75 (excluding the raptor) and starts at 35-45k…the original comment isn’t exactly a knock on INEOS it was more a knock on the customer that would buy it…they just wanted a plush ride and cool exterior for attention and it’s got some of those gadgets but it was designed mostly to be an adventure/off road rig, not a mall crawler. So when it’s a little noisy or bumpy compared to an actual luxury focused SUV they’re not happy with it
I'm not sure Doug DOES know what today's consumer wants. I talk to many friends and family who are coming out of older cars and looking to buy something new. They go to the dealership and see everything has the massive touchscreens. They say "oh that's really nice", and then sit in the car with a salesmen who teaches them how to use it. Inevitably, they always leave saying it's too complicated and end up buying a car a couple years old where the screens were smaller, but still had CarPlay functionality and whatnot
Car company are going after young generation and beyond with all touchscreen features. They know older gen will hate that feature with passion but younger gen will get used to it and think buttons are so archaic and 'boomer' and will want touchscreen when they old/wealthy enough to buy their own cars.
I know someone who, after three months, took back her brand new car back to the dealer and traded it in for an older model because she hated the VAG touchscreen experience so much.
Like most kids in the 80’s I loved the Countach. I used to read a lot of car magazines back then, and my recollection is that most auto reviewers did not love the Countach at the time, it was considered overrated. Not as quick or fast as the radical styling indicated. They used to say the iconic huge rear wing took something like 15 mph off the top speed. They just weren’t impressed with the driving experience back then from my perspective
I LOVE the i8 Roadster, FUTURE CLASSIC. Only produced for 2 years 2020-2022 and only 1,294 made in the USA. THISSSSSSS is the i8 version to have, and one of them is mine…
I still think the Countach is overhyped. I drove a later one a couple years ago and while it was cool to say I drove one, nothing about it really stood out. It wasn’t refined, uncomfortable, and didn’t even handle that great… the same experience as a lot of car from the time period. I will give it credit that the styling revolutionized exotic car styling, especially the anniversary car, but I don’t feel that’s enough to justify what the market value. Again, I don’t hate it but I’m also okay if I never drive one again.
The first time I saw one (which was white) both I and my girlfriend commented on what a cool looking car it was. I just checked on a large car auction site and in the U.K. you can now get one for under £10000.
Wow that EQS is repulsive. Truly a repugnant atrocity. I also don't buy your criticism against the Testarossa, you compare it to the Countach for some reason (who ever though to do that?), but at the same time let the Mini Countryman get away with being good for "what it is", which is a double standard. The Testarossa is a truly elegant car. Obviously I can't say how it drives because the most spicy car I've driven is a SAAB 9000.
Sorry to say, the Testarossa was not made to copy the Countach. It was the replacement of the 512 BBi, which was also a mid-engine V12. Its true they were competitors but not a copy cat. And yes, the Countach drives just as much as crap as the TR. Nice try though
The Ferrari wasn't a copy or a rush job, they're just tied together because they're the most identifiable symbols of 80s excess. Different ways to target same market. Lamborghini with look at me styling and Ferrari with sophistication.
First wedge-shaped car? The de Tomasso Pantera would like a word. In a video a few weeks ago, Doug spent a lot of time defending why he bought the Carrera GT. This time, he seems to be defending why he bought the Countach. Very weird.
A quick Google search comes up with a book, The Origins of The Wedge Car Design, and suggests that the 1966 Cannara 1, by Ray Cannara is the first. Maybe this one is barely a real car, though there are photos of them. And, more importantly I remember having an early Hot Wheels one of these around 1969!
12:43 This is the same but with all of BMW’s looks over the decade, my whole life I’ve heard about how the ‘newest BMW’ looks terrible and then as soon as new models show up the previous look becomes beloved
@@biscariot1074 well, he's kinda right about that one. Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear something like "Why is this car 7x the price of a GT-R?" And that was the general perception of the LFA. It took them YEARS after production ended to sell all the cars.
Total agree with the BMW i8. Its so unique that soon its going to be a collector item, considering the fact that they haven't made anything close to looking like it or features like it since its launch.
Do you mean "collector item" in the sense of a 63 Corvette or the like wherein lots of people want one? Or do you mean "collector item" in the sense that one quirky guy kept one in his own personal seven-car museum because he thought it was so special and unique and mistakenly thought the rest of the world would care?
Indeed... The Testaross isn't a crazy supercar. V12 Ferarris are Grand Tourer's; They come with luggage. Apples and Oranges Douggie. The Ferarri outsold the Lambo precisely BECAUSE it wasn't insane and the mistress could actually open the door and get out.
Doug, type of Millennial guy who works hard for long hours to forge his epic lifestyle while other Millennials seek the “balance” of chronic economic underperformance.
I feel the exact same way about the MK5 Supra. We should appreciate the fact that we still have such awesome sports cars instead of complaining that it has a GREAT BMW engine
@Flies2FLL I think it's stunning especially in red and the B58 is pretty solid with explosive power and noise. Name 1 modern Toyota with an engine that exciting, I'll wait
@@finalpharoah1 If we took the new GR Supra as logically as possible, I think it’s presented as a very fine sporty vehicle. But we’re all human. We have feelings. And the feeling I get when looking at the new Supra is disappointment. They didn’t make a bespoke or “Toyota” platform, they developed it along with BMW to reduce cost. They didn’t engineer a new engine because that takes money to do, they just stuck a BMW engine it it (and I even agree, the B58 is great!). They didn’t want to really do their own software in the infotainment so they just mostly slapped a Toyota badge on iDrive. They didn’t want to even put all Toyota switchgear in the interior. So they just have mostly BMW parts in it. It’s just lazy and reeks of cost cutting for the sake of putting “Supra” on it because they know it will sell a lot just from the name. It’s a competent, comfortable, sporty vehicle but the people who are spending almost $60k on it today are not the same people who were playing with Mk.4 Supra’s in Gran Turismo when they were a kid.
@AFluffyMobius the MK4 Supra was a lazy GT car and sold so poorly that Toyota stopped making sports cars, it was not the great car people imagined it to be until Fast and Fusrious made it a hero car. Toyota don't make fun explosive sports cars. The GR Yaris and Corolla sound like vacuum cleaners. The Supra sounds like thunder and I am glad it exists
controversial opinion : The Testarossa in every shot you used it looked absolutely glorious, low, wide, well designed, looks well thought out, proportioned, nice details, 80's Icon etc. The Countach can look like all of these things when photographed well, but most of the time it looks like a bad kit car in the worst way.
Doug, you silly goose, how can one NOT have loved the LFA since the beginning?! It's a front-engined supercar - which is already rare - made by LEXUS of all things! It's like a proper successor to the A80 Supra, and it's absolutely gorgeous, way better looking that the LC500 Toyota pays every other influencer to praise!
The Ferrari Testerossa is a good looking car. I'm a few years older than Doug and we all had that poster on our walls alongside the Countach and the 959. That said, my $40K Chevrolet SS family sedan likely trounces a testerossa on the drag strip and the track lol.
8:08 Disagree. Selling more means that - at the time - it was better suited to the market. Also in terms of copying, the 365 GTB came out in 71, the 512BB and Testarossa are a logical continuation of that lineage. There were also the P4s and more racecars (and 917s) with mid engines before that. Would you argue Lambo copied the lengthwise installation (altough I know the gearbox is in the middle). And the optics… come on, tastes are different. I know the Countach is stunning, but the Testarossa is at least not ugly, I personally love the Taillight-grill-fin-stuff. And people agreed and made up Bodykits and Kitcars for decades with this Style. It is not inherently inferiour, it is just different. If I ever see you with the Countach I will however MASSIVELY talk it down, now that I know it enrages you to the point you let me drive it :)
One of the main problems the LFA had, and would have had regardless of how good a car it was, is that it had no cachet. People actually buying that class of car aren't buying a means of transportation, they are buying a symbol that must be seen by others. A Lexus is a boring daily-driver that gets you to your corner office anonymously but comfortably. A Lamborghini or Ferrari announces to everybody that you've arrived and that, yeah, you probably do think you're better than everybody else.
I agree with many of those takes. Regarding the mini countryman. I drive an F30 and I hate SUVs when my wife wanted a car recently. I got her an X2 which is basically the country man with a BMW shell and it’s quite a fun car to drive. Feels more like a hatchback than a crossover. Is a slightly bigger mini, but drives exactly the same.
Ugh. Can we stop with the boomer hatred please? I’m of that generation. I have absolutely no interest in 60s/70s muscle cars. I daily a BMW 228i. I have an FC RX-7 in my driveway. Stereotyping is a blunt object. Let the hatred commenting begin!
The Countach is probably my favorite car design of all time, but I also love the Testarossa. I love the strakes, I love the louvered rear clip, I love the low/flat look. It's iconic 80s. Countach is absurdly expensive and rare billionaire fodder now. Alternatively, a reasonably successful dentist can buy a nice Testarossa as a toy. It's not really a fair comparison. I'd still take a 550 over the Testarossa, but the Testarossa is undeniable.
Pontiac Solstice = Opel Speedster here in Europe. Grrreeeaat car. I do not understand, why people did not buy it much. Opel has a bad reputation here, but they have many great models.
I'd rather have the Lotus Elise that they were based on. I remember a guy at working getting a new one, and it was super basic inside, but looked like a ton of fun.
I agree with you on the Prowler, Solstice and NC Miata. As a tall person, I better like the NC Miata and Solstice/Sky because I fit more confortably. I had an NB Miata and it was a little tight for me height wise.
I always loved the look of the BMW i8. When you reviewed the copper colored one, I was in love. I think the problem is that people were expecting a high 400s, low 500hp car to go along with the looks. Ill always be a fan!
The problem I have with screens isn't so much the fact they're screens, but that the first thing to look dated on any car in usually ten years or less is the tech, and physical switches, dials or gauges never look dated.
@@ilon7799 The tech looks dated, infotainment, screens, etc, and they aren't compatible with newer tech, but dials, switches, and gauges look pretty much the same for the past century and never look dated if done right. Take a look at the Jaguar E-Type interior and today's Bugatti Tourbillon, or the F1 and the T.50, then look at an older car with tech, like my 2007 Audi S4, and its seriously dated-looking infotainment with no way to hook it to a phone unless you run a radio broadcast transmitter.
Don't understand Testarossa one. The Testarossa is legendary. It wasn't made to be something raw and clunky. Its more smoother, GT like and more refined.
I’m not convinced that we are going to see ICE cars disappear in the next 4-5 years. New Electric cars not selling that great and the used market is flooded with very depreciated fairly new cars.
Fully disappear, maybe not, but we are approaching the end of the line for manual, NA V8 cars. More and more cars are coming standard with hybrid systems (the latest Camry is hybrid-only for example). Even if the U.S. and Europe see a slower decline of gasoline cars, China is going full steam ahead on BEVs and EREVs, and they will export these to countries with little or no road trip culture, where a BEV with 200 miles of range is just fine and you can plug into an outlet on the street. This means that US/Euro manufacturers will have to amortize their gasoline vehicle development over a smaller and smaller number of cars, and will naturally focus on hybrids that can sell.
@@evanmorris6508when you remeber that we started saying this “end of an era” crap back in 2018 i think there using this as a sales tactic as long as people will buy it someone will always make it thats my opinion
Pure gasoline powered car will be a rare sight in 5 years. Hybrid/phev will be the book standard of automotive, wheter it's commuter daily cars or enthusiast cars.
We won't. Millions of people don't have a place to plug in every night. People in apartments or with street parking aren't going to switch to something that they have to go hunt down a charger every few days and sit there for an hour. There are still issues with cost, range, longevity, and payload with EVs.
This was a fun video. I see your points on each car - agree with some, disagree with others, but respect the thought process. I have to just cheer your opinion of the Mini Countryman. I'm a car enthusiast in my mid-60s. I've owned dozens of Mercedes, Porsches, Jaguars, etc, and I've always struggled with buying a car for my wife. She doesn't drive much, so I'd buy her a comfortable, safe, boring crossover. Last year, we saw a Countryman on the road, and she commented, "What a cute car, I'd love one of those." I went to our local dealer the next day and drove one. I was SO impressed, I bought one on the spot. She ordered it in racing green (same as my '63 Austin Healey) with white racing stripes and accents. Every time I drive this car, I forget how much it makes me smile. Thanks for identifying this great, fun car that makes even the most dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast happy.
You’re shockingly wrong about the LFA. It’s, very honestly, an incredible looking car. Even today, 13 years later, it looks like it could be coming out this year. And no, it’s not just my opinion or a few other people’s, it’s the entire car market. Cars simply don’t skyrocket in value because they’re bad. It’s a genuine masterpiece of a car.
If you like the LFA, its fine, everyone has tastes. But what you are saying is wrong. Cars can go up in value because of speculations and bubbles, that doesn't always mean they are good. Also, an old Nissan Juke looks modern too, that doesnt make it good either.
As the owner of a Mini Countryman JCW, I can confirm it’s one hell of a car. So fun. Always surprises other drivers with its speed, and it’s pretty epic off road too.
Countach vs Testarossa: Testarossa wasn't that rare? They made for something like 5 years, they made Countach for 25. Where they churning out 4 Counties a year or something?
The problem with the Ineos is that it is noisy, not refined, doesn't have features . . . and expensive. If it was 50k, sign me up. 100k . . . where are basic features?
This is also the problem with Mini, and was the problem with the i8. Price! Most would agree that all are great experiences, but it's important to put a car into perspective with what it costs and compare it with what else you can get for the money
Re: Prowler. I was a dealers son. In my late teens and early 20's I got to drive anything. Porsche, Range Rover, M3, Viper, NSX, etc. Absolutely nothing turned heads and got the attention a Prowler did. It is/was an awesome car.
Funny thing. I'm about to have a date with the engineer of the hybrid-gearbox integration. Tell me she'd not seen a gearbox in her life, inside nor out, before this job. Had no idea they were this big.
"New" LFA fanfare comes from my generation. The LFA was one of the "WOW" cars in Forza for ex. I grew up playing NFS and loved the IS300 so the LFA was a whole new universe for that brand, and I never knew about the issues it has. And now we've had our license for 10 years, we know it's overpriced, none of us can afford to try one, but still really want one.
So if I’m understanding…Doug’s opinion on the M2 is that we shouldn’t care that it’s ugly because it’s the last one…? Oh and if you disagree it’s because you can’t afford one😂
Prowler is legitimately a dream car for me (born 1986). I absolutely must have it with the trailer and will absolutely use it for special jobs in my line of work as an auto detailer.
Your memory is failing you, a bit, regarding the LFA. It was a decently big release and has since been known as one of the best driving production cars ever made. It also looks incredible from every angle and sounds better than most super cars. Its only downside was that it doesn’t have a dual clutch due to when it came out. The value of the LFA will absolutely continue to rise. It’s, hands down, one of Japan’s greatest cars of all time and your views on it are quite off, objectively speaking.
Thank you so much Doug, especially for having BMWs in this Video! Couldn't agree more and i'm an Audi Guy all my Life! It's so tiresome to check any Car Review TH-camrs Comment Section on any BMW ever, because before reading them, you know it's the exact same Comments as on any other BMW Review (including several previous Models going all the Way back to 2005! So I'll always respect Doug for being the only Car TH-camr who doesn't automatically repeat and say what so many Comments say but doesn't mind saying Stuff like "It doesn't look that bad", "It grew on me" and sometimes also "People cry about this and that new Model but mark my Words, in a few Years they will love it." Of course pointing out how People reacted the very same Way for the Model before that and the one before that etc. See this especially with BMW Models but as Doug mentioned in the last Podcast also with the 4Runner and other Cars of other Brands Prost & Cheers from the Snow-Covered Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
They should have called the Countryman the Maxi, which was an Austin family sized car back when the original Mini was being marketed as a city runabout. As for the BMW I8 it is the coolest looking car I ever see people taking to the local retail park to do their shopping.
Doug's the type of guy to record 89 video's at the same time, then release them for the next year while wearing a band-aid.
@@truthserum5310 Truthserum is the kind of guy, who thinks the plural of video is "video's"
@@drbob212 Drbob is the type of guy to like his own comment.
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He injured himself adjusting the mirror in his Countach.
😂 @@drbob212
Note to self: Tell Doug his Countach drives like crap so he'll offer to take me for a ride
And slap you out too
I should be so lucky to ask him for a ride!
😂😂😂
@@lisakaz35ok Shakespeare
@obgynandjuice its very analog, and that's the 'charm' in it lol. Heavy manual steering, horrible visibility, insane ingress egress. It makes the lotus Esprit look like a Lexus.
Doug's the kind of guy who has to wear a Band-Aid after getting into a slap fight with Kennan
Hahahahahahahahahaha
YES! Him and Kennan were getting ACTIVE.🤣lmao
Before long, car people around the world will be wearing their band-aid the same way.
Sounds gay
I was thinking he owed big gambling debts to a mob boss
Waiting for the "THISSSS...is a video about the band-aid I've been wearing for a while, and why I've been wearing it".
He filmed a ton of videos all during one short period of time.
@@davidp2888 He explained it awhile back on “THIS Car Pod!” I think he fell or something like that.
Obviously for a headache
"aaaand ☝🏻... it's MYYY bandaid"
Gee. Stop the violence. Doug wants to hit everyone. Is that how he ended with the bandaid? You should see the other guy and Doug is the other guy.
I still don’t understand why Doug hasn’t just gone back and watched his original LFA video, he was awestruck, he loved it, but now that he hasn’t driven one in 10 years, he says he hates it. And his only real complaint is the transmission which he is openly talked about how he likes in other cars.
i don’t think he hates it he just thinks it’s overhyped
@@jeffreydavidmarksCarrera GT, also overhyped.
R.I.P. Paul.
10 years ago it was underappreciated, but now its slightly overrated with the nostalgia of a screaming V10 but other than the sound it's pretty mediocre and overpriced.
@@snakexpert552True. Still doesn’t change the fact that I still want it. Emotions are a fickle thing.
Peoples opinions change. I have on a lot of cars. Everything about the LFA is terrible except the sound of it. Thats the ONLY thing that car has going for it.
Kennan the type of guy who uses a change purse.
And slaps you with it if you insult his M5.
james is the type of guy to have the term “change purse” on his mind
Kennan, the kind of guy to use large amounts of gel to mimic a haircut.
@@jeffreydavidmarks Jeffery the type to defend kennan (someone he doesn’t even know)
I’m curious, Do you drive a monster truck?
Doug’s the type of guy to stand on his toilet while hanging a clock, slip and fall, hit his head, and come up with vision for the flux capacitor.
Saying no car enthusiasts liked the LFA when it was new is a nuclear take.
Many people liked it, but it was priced out of affordability for most people. Almost all of those who could afford it are massively affected by brand/badge snobbery and would never buy a Lexus, no matter how good it is. If it had an Italian or German badge on it, they would have been chomping at the bit to buy it back when it was new.
Correct but idk about badge snobbery. The LFA was like $400,000 when new which was like 2x the equivalent Euro super car, just an insanely nonsensical price tag.
not just out of affordability, it was priced out of their mind.
Love that line of argumentation too: 'people _clearly_ don't like it otherwise everyone would have bought one when it was available', as if everyone was born into money and then lucked into even more money like he has. Meanwhile he supposedly loves the NC Miata so much but hasn't owned one even though it's pocket money to him. The guy's just a complete and utter tool.
Love how he turned the Ferrari TR into a Countach advertisement to increase the value of his car. I’d take the TR.
Everytime, Countach is overrated
That was ham-handed, like almost half the video on that same Gandini rant
Countach is ugly. Pedigree aside, its just bad design. Not cool.
Yeah, both cars arent good by todays standards and offer a similar experience so id just buy what i think looks best. To me, thats the Testarossa and the fact that its also cheaper means its a better deal.
@@kamahlrg This is the correct take
2 words: Miami Vice.
That television show helped cement the Testarosa as a cultural icon for the time.
I have ine and drove the Countach too. It's more exciting, but I wouldnt put miles between them. Testarossa also felt better made (still crappy), but LAmbo felt like I could put it together in my shed. Rossa felt like James May could put it together in a shed.
And now the majority of the population has no idea what that was, which explains the relative drop in price
That sound he makes around 5:26 is crazy. Is he turning into a monster?
😂🤣
Are you for real? He talks about the last gasp for inline 6 manual bmws, and performs that last gasp of air convincingly. What is so odd about it?
He is digging deep to think of why it doesn't suck.
I think the BMW i8's problem is that it looks more exotic than it actually is. Based on the styling, you'd think it was basically a BMW take on a Ferrari. When that turned out not to be true, potential buyers say on their hands.
Ya, the “sensible exotic” demographic is pretty narrow.
I like the idea personally.
Im straight up considering one lol its such a cool car that can be properly driven daily yet its got so much flair and style with just enough performance paired with efficiency, especially since even over a decade later it still looks ahead of our time
The i8's problem was what sane person would buy a $150k 'exotic' car that was slower than a sports saloon that same manufacturer made for less than half the price?
I think Testarossa is 100 times better looking than the countach, but i guess the crazy look of the countach makes it more iconic, while the testarosa is outshined by its much better siblings like F355
Seriously? 🤷🏼♂️
The Testarossa was roomier inside than the Countach. It didn't feel cramped inside.
The Testarossa is actually roomier inside than the Countach. It wasn't so cramped inside.
Frankly, neither of them are particularly good looking cars. They both look very cool but they both have many angles where they just don't work. Doug is completely wrong about the testarossa tho. It wasn't supposed to be a "rival" to the countach, it was a GT car, just with its engine in the middle. Also from what I've heard it's nowhere near as bad to drive as everyone says it is.
F355 is one of the best looking cars of all time
Being a teenager back then I can tell you that the Countach won the poster wars. Every teenage boy had a Countach poster, and Farrah Fawcett in the red swimsuit.
difference is you can drive the countach for more than 2 and a half minutes
My dad had a Testarossa
The real problem with the EQS is the the current S class. If it was simply an electric S class, it’d sell in droves, but it’s not. It’s a weird bug shaped electric car that delivers more like a model 3/y with an AMG S Class price tag. The only incentive to choose an eqs is to avoid the Tesla badge, but at such a high price point you Can choose pretty much any lux/EV car you’d like
I disagree with this. I've had both an EQS and a w221 S class. The EQS is super quiet, extremely comfortable, has the same quality air suspension and luxury. Tesla is great for its own reasons, but I didn't think the model 3 really came close in terms of delivering a super quiet, comfortable, S class style experience.
This is it. This is the argument, this is my criticism of the EQS as well, if it was just the current S Class with an electric drivetrain it would be great. I think MB has learned this lesson with the new electric G Class given that it looks exactly like the gas version
@@Ninja6485 I’m mostly speaking from a style and size viewpoint. As someone who’s admittedly never owned either, the eqs price point would send me towards products like the Blackwing or Model S, assuming I don’t just say to hell with it and get a big suv instead
@ I’m sure that’ll do well, but in that case I also believe it will be a tougher sell than a car that’s an ev. There is an element of “truck” and “I want people to know I’m no environmentalist” to larger vehicles that doesn’t really exist for large sedans and wagons
@@e4ee4e9 the biggest problem with the EQS is that it looks like a $35k car.
The problem with the i8 is that it looks WAY faster than it actually is. It looks like it has the performance if an NSX. If it looked more like a quirky fun car similar to an MR2, it would be loved!
Your opinion made me do a double-take. You think the i8 looks fast? Fast doesn't pop into my head when I look at it. To me it looks like a science fiction movie prop car wherein they just put some crazy body on top of whatever piece of junk they had in the Hollywood back lot, like in Robocop or something.
@xtnuser5338 it doesn't look futuristic to me at all, maybe it used to a little bit, but not to the degree you described. To me the new Santa Fe looks more futuristic than the i8.
i8 has typical supercar proportions and styling elements usually associated with supercars. The original R8 looks less supercary to me, the SLS AMG, the AMG GT - they all look a lot more pedestrian, yet they outperform the i8.
If the i8 was a little bit taller, maybe narrower and had the proportions closer to Alpine A110 or Volkswagen XL1, it would look just like you expect a hybrid technology mule to look. i3 in that sense nailed the design. i8 is a waste of potential, kinda like how Kia Telluride could've been the new Mohave with low range and body on frame, but they wasted a good design on a boring piece of junk.
I agree. It looks like it should be fast. While I understand that wasn't the intention, it looked like a supercar and was priced near one too. I think the i8 is cool but its styling wrote checks its powertrain couldn't cash.
I respect your opinion, although i will admit that it's true the design does look like a fast car that it actually is lol. But, IMO the i8 looks great and somehow after all these years it still looks like a modern car...
Also if it wasn’t 175,000 bucks when it came out
Why is Doug wearing a band-aid like Nelly
THIS is the band aid 3 inch edition, some quirk is the adhesive is the same compound 3M uses to glue parts onto the Izuzu off roader lol.
Probably insulted Kenans M5
I wouldnt be surprised if he does MMA training to vent his quirks and frustrations
apparently he requires a bandaid when he gets injured, like most people. bizarre i know
@jeffreydavidmarks
He must have skin like paper, it's been weeks.
silly doug, i have all of these opinions
Don't praise the NC Miata any more, you're destroying my plans of buying it when it gets cheaper 😂
Do it now. They are past their lowest point. Mine is worth almost double the amount I bought it for in 2021.
I agree with the BMW i8, I rented one on Turo and really enjoyed it! It has more than enough power for a weekend car, and the doors were so cool. You definitely feel special every time you get in the car. The real Achilles heel for this car are the repair woes and the insurance costs. My 911 is $130/month here in San Diego, the i8 was nearly $400! I suspect if you get in an accident these are difficult to repair so it’s more likely to be totaled.
The i8 qualifies for collector car insurance, which is dirt cheap. I only pay $642/year for my 2016 i8 for full coverage with glass, roadside assistance, and no deductible
You have to remember that whatever you’re quoting for insurance and collector status is specific to your state or province. These observations mean nothing in another area where the rules and costs are totally different.
@@morstyrannis1951 Collector status is set by the insurer, like Hagerty, Grundy, etc., and applies anywhere. The i8 qualifies with all of them, which I know from getting quotes. I agree that rates will vary by location and person, but collector insurance will always be much cheaper than regular car insurance, and I can’t imagine it ever being near $4800/year for an i8, from my experience with it with two cars
@@j.r.986 how many miles per year can you drive it?
@@towelies4884 No mileage limit, and I remember being surprised that Grundy didn’t even ask for the mileage when I setup the policy. I previously had a policy with American Collectors Insurance for an NSX, and it also didn’t have a mileage limit.
The only stipulation was agreeing that I wouldn’t use it as a dd, and had to show proof that I have a separate dd, for which I have two boring BMWs doing that duty
The INEOS’ issue is the price point…it’s designed for an old SUV off-roader enthusiast but in the price range of someone who mall crawls a G wagon 😂…so those people who just wanted the attention or something new and shiny don’t appreciate that it wasn’t really made for them, it was made for people who can’t afford them 😂
Nope. Not even close. The G wagon starts at $150,000. The INEOS starts at $75,000. Literally half price.
@ 🤣 bro most sell close to or even well over 100…my point isn’t that they’re directly equal, my point is both are not affordable for 95% or more of the population, so they get bought by people who mall crawl them or occasionally drive them to a ski lift…even 75k is super expensive for most people, and that’s assuming they buy the bare bones stripped down model with no mark ups…
Yea, but its not like you can make a Jimny-type car profitable in the US, let alone legal.
@ sure but you can make a bronco or jeep type vehicle that tops out at around 75 (excluding the raptor) and starts at 35-45k…the original comment isn’t exactly a knock on INEOS it was more a knock on the customer that would buy it…they just wanted a plush ride and cool exterior for attention and it’s got some of those gadgets but it was designed mostly to be an adventure/off road rig, not a mall crawler. So when it’s a little noisy or bumpy compared to an actual luxury focused SUV they’re not happy with it
@@Redrash12 If Suzuki could make the Jimny meet US crash safety standards they'd sell them as fast as they could ship them over.
I'm not sure Doug DOES know what today's consumer wants. I talk to many friends and family who are coming out of older cars and looking to buy something new. They go to the dealership and see everything has the massive touchscreens. They say "oh that's really nice", and then sit in the car with a salesmen who teaches them how to use it. Inevitably, they always leave saying it's too complicated and end up buying a car a couple years old where the screens were smaller, but still had CarPlay functionality and whatnot
Car company are going after young generation and beyond with all touchscreen features. They know older gen will hate that feature with passion but younger gen will get used to it and think buttons are so archaic and 'boomer' and will want touchscreen when they old/wealthy enough to buy their own cars.
Man Doug really triggered all the Testarossa fans with this one lol
I know someone who, after three months, took back her brand new car back to the dealer and traded it in for an older model because she hated the VAG touchscreen experience so much.
7:15 The Testarosa is a more attractive car…..also, Don Johnson didn’t drive the Countach.
Chill out grandpa, we aint in the 1970’s anymore
@ Blome, these cars were all made in the 80’s. Read a history book, ignant.
@@scottbaxendale323 oh pops, did you forget to take your meds again?
i agree it looks a million times better than the countach testarosa is timeless miama
7:02 What version/chassis code is that
Like most kids in the 80’s I loved the Countach. I used to read a lot of car magazines back then, and my recollection is that most auto reviewers did not love the Countach at the time, it was considered overrated. Not as quick or fast as the radical styling indicated. They used to say the iconic huge rear wing took something like 15 mph off the top speed. They just weren’t impressed with the driving experience back then from my perspective
Doug the type of guy to get injured while browsing cars and bids
I LOVE the i8 Roadster, FUTURE CLASSIC. Only produced for 2 years 2020-2022 and only 1,294 made in the USA. THISSSSSSS is the i8 version to have, and one of them is mine…
I still think the Countach is overhyped. I drove a later one a couple years ago and while it was cool to say I drove one, nothing about it really stood out. It wasn’t refined, uncomfortable, and didn’t even handle that great… the same experience as a lot of car from the time period. I will give it credit that the styling revolutionized exotic car styling, especially the anniversary car, but I don’t feel that’s enough to justify what the market value. Again, I don’t hate it but I’m also okay if I never drive one again.
Doug is the type of guy who covers a wound with a band-id until it turns into a scar.
If I were to add one car to this list it would be the Panamera. It definitely doesn't get the love it deserves.
The first time I saw one (which was white) both I and my girlfriend commented on what a cool looking car it was. I just checked on a large car auction site and in the U.K. you can now get one for under £10000.
Wow that EQS is repulsive. Truly a repugnant atrocity.
I also don't buy your criticism against the Testarossa, you compare it to the Countach for some reason (who ever though to do that?), but at the same time let the Mini Countryman get away with being good for "what it is", which is a double standard. The Testarossa is a truly elegant car. Obviously I can't say how it drives because the most spicy car I've driven is a SAAB 9000.
EQS is indeed ugly😂
Just compare it to the audi etron ,same ingridients, but good looking
Sorry to say, the Testarossa was not made to copy the Countach. It was the replacement of the 512 BBi, which was also a mid-engine V12. Its true they were competitors but not a copy cat. And yes, the Countach drives just as much as crap as the TR. Nice try though
The Ferrari wasn't a copy or a rush job, they're just tied together because they're the most identifiable symbols of 80s excess. Different ways to target same market. Lamborghini with look at me styling and Ferrari with sophistication.
Doug spent a buttload of money on a Countach and hates that people see the much cheaper Testarossa as an equal to his car.
I heard that Testarossa drives basicily like BMW 7 series. While 512 boxer and later 512 TR are awesome.
For sure, I’d like to see sources on Ferrari “rushing out” the TR to “copy” Lamborghini. Instead it just being the natural progression of the boxer.
Also the Countach came out in the mid-70s. It had been out for 10 years before Ferrari “rushed” to the drawing board to “copy” it lmao
Testarossa is still a cheap poster car for us ‘90’s kids. I want one so bad.
First wedge-shaped car? The de Tomasso Pantera would like a word. In a video a few weeks ago, Doug spent a lot of time defending why he bought the Carrera GT. This time, he seems to be defending why he bought the Countach. Very weird.
A quick Google search comes up with a book, The Origins of The Wedge Car Design, and suggests that the 1966 Cannara 1, by Ray Cannara is the first. Maybe this one is barely a real car, though there are photos of them. And, more importantly I remember having an early Hot Wheels one of these around 1969!
Its not wierd at all besides the Ford GT which hes pretty much abandoned he sucks off those two cars like no tommorow
12:43 This is the same but with all of BMW’s looks over the decade, my whole life I’ve heard about how the ‘newest BMW’ looks terrible and then as soon as new models show up the previous look becomes beloved
No one liked the LFA when it came out ? I hate how he sometimes acts like he has this superior knowledge about car culture .
Yup it was a failure at launch
@@biscariot1074 well, he's kinda right about that one. Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear something like "Why is this car 7x the price of a GT-R?" And that was the general perception of the LFA. It took them YEARS after production ended to sell all the cars.
Total agree with the BMW i8. Its so unique that soon its going to be a collector item, considering the fact that they haven't made anything close to looking like it or features like it since its launch.
Do you mean "collector item" in the sense of a 63 Corvette or the like wherein lots of people want one? Or do you mean "collector item" in the sense that one quirky guy kept one in his own personal seven-car museum because he thought it was so special and unique and mistakenly thought the rest of the world would care?
Indeed... The Testaross isn't a crazy supercar. V12 Ferarris are Grand Tourer's; They come with luggage. Apples and Oranges Douggie. The Ferarri outsold the Lambo precisely BECAUSE it wasn't insane and the mistress could actually open the door and get out.
How many videos did this guy film on this day lol
Doug, type of Millennial guy who works hard for long hours to forge his epic lifestyle while other Millennials seek the “balance” of chronic economic underperformance.
Miami Vice - Cool TV Show / White Testarossa - Cool Car.....end of discussion...
I would never have this talk with my self. Too anxiety ridden😂
So I am glad you do it Doug! Congrats on your great success.
I feel the exact same way about the MK5 Supra. We should appreciate the fact that we still have such awesome sports cars instead of complaining that it has a GREAT BMW engine
Well let's see....Toyota "gargoyle" styling paired up with BMW lax reliability. What could possibly go wrong~?
@Flies2FLL I think it's stunning especially in red and the B58 is pretty solid with explosive power and noise. Name 1 modern Toyota with an engine that exciting, I'll wait
@@finalpharoah1 Name one single modern BMW engine that is reliable. And the Supra looks like crap and has the sales numbers to prove it.
@@finalpharoah1 If we took the new GR Supra as logically as possible, I think it’s presented as a very fine sporty vehicle.
But we’re all human. We have feelings.
And the feeling I get when looking at the new Supra is disappointment. They didn’t make a bespoke or “Toyota” platform, they developed it along with BMW to reduce cost. They didn’t engineer a new engine because that takes money to do, they just stuck a BMW engine it it (and I even agree, the B58 is great!). They didn’t want to really do their own software in the infotainment so they just mostly slapped a Toyota badge on iDrive. They didn’t want to even put all Toyota switchgear in the interior. So they just have mostly BMW parts in it.
It’s just lazy and reeks of cost cutting for the sake of putting “Supra” on it because they know it will sell a lot just from the name.
It’s a competent, comfortable, sporty vehicle but the people who are spending almost $60k on it today are not the same people who were playing with Mk.4 Supra’s in Gran Turismo when they were a kid.
@AFluffyMobius the MK4 Supra was a lazy GT car and sold so poorly that Toyota stopped making sports cars, it was not the great car people imagined it to be until Fast and Fusrious made it a hero car. Toyota don't make fun explosive sports cars. The GR Yaris and Corolla sound like vacuum cleaners. The Supra sounds like thunder and I am glad it exists
Man; that head injury really isn't healing!!! 😉
Wow Doug looks like he got into a fight with everyone else over his opinions 😂
controversial opinion : The Testarossa in every shot you used it looked absolutely glorious, low, wide, well designed, looks well thought out, proportioned, nice details, 80's Icon etc. The Countach can look like all of these things when photographed well, but most of the time it looks like a bad kit car in the worst way.
This is the highlight of my day. Thanks for sharing it.
Doug single handedly driving countach values up
I remember the Civic Type R video being a bit controversial back in the day
Because it's objectively fugly
I drove an 87 Testarossa when working as an apprentice repair tech in the early 2000s. My one takeaway was never meet your hero.
If the LFA had a stick it would be lauded as one of the best cars of all time.
Doug, you silly goose, how can one NOT have loved the LFA since the beginning?! It's a front-engined supercar - which is already rare - made by LEXUS of all things! It's like a proper successor to the A80 Supra, and it's absolutely gorgeous, way better looking that the LC500 Toyota pays every other influencer to praise!
The Ferrari Testerossa is a good looking car. I'm a few years older than Doug and we all had that poster on our walls alongside the Countach and the 959. That said, my $40K Chevrolet SS family sedan likely trounces a testerossa on the drag strip and the track lol.
Yeah but everyone will say "wow that's a fast Malibu" lol
@@Jalreal lol! true.
Hearing him lose his breath at the M2 is cracking me up
8:08 Disagree. Selling more means that - at the time - it was better suited to the market.
Also in terms of copying, the 365 GTB came out in 71, the 512BB and Testarossa are a logical continuation of that lineage. There were also the P4s and more racecars (and 917s) with mid engines before that. Would you argue Lambo copied the lengthwise installation (altough I know the gearbox is in the middle).
And the optics… come on, tastes are different. I know the Countach is stunning, but the Testarossa is at least not ugly, I personally love the Taillight-grill-fin-stuff. And people agreed and made up Bodykits and Kitcars for decades with this Style. It is not inherently inferiour, it is just different.
If I ever see you with the Countach I will however MASSIVELY talk it down, now that I know it enrages you to the point you let me drive it :)
One of the main problems the LFA had, and would have had regardless of how good a car it was, is that it had no cachet. People actually buying that class of car aren't buying a means of transportation, they are buying a symbol that must be seen by others. A Lexus is a boring daily-driver that gets you to your corner office anonymously but comfortably. A Lamborghini or Ferrari announces to everybody that you've arrived and that, yeah, you probably do think you're better than everybody else.
Video starts at 2:06
I don’t think that’s warranted given he actually has time stamps. Really good ones too.
I agree with many of those takes. Regarding the mini countryman. I drive an F30 and I hate SUVs when my wife wanted a car recently. I got her an X2 which is basically the country man with a BMW shell and it’s quite a fun car to drive. Feels more like a hatchback than a crossover. Is a slightly bigger mini, but drives exactly the same.
Ugh. Can we stop with the boomer hatred please? I’m of that generation. I have absolutely no interest in 60s/70s muscle cars. I daily a BMW 228i. I have an FC RX-7 in my driveway. Stereotyping is a blunt object. Let the hatred commenting begin!
The Countach is probably my favorite car design of all time, but I also love the Testarossa. I love the strakes, I love the louvered rear clip, I love the low/flat look. It's iconic 80s. Countach is absurdly expensive and rare billionaire fodder now. Alternatively, a reasonably successful dentist can buy a nice Testarossa as a toy. It's not really a fair comparison. I'd still take a 550 over the Testarossa, but the Testarossa is undeniable.
Pontiac Solstice = Opel Speedster here in Europe.
Grrreeeaat car. I do not understand, why people did not buy it much. Opel has a bad reputation here, but they have many great models.
I'd rather have the Lotus Elise that they were based on. I remember a guy at working getting a new one, and it was super basic inside, but looked like a ton of fun.
If you compare the folding roof with a MX5, you’re left wondering if the GM engineers got their degree from an online diploma mill.
I agree with you on the Prowler, Solstice and NC Miata.
As a tall person, I better like the NC Miata and Solstice/Sky because I fit more confortably. I had an NB Miata and it was a little tight for me height wise.
Lmao how bad is this head injury, the bandaid has been on for like 3 weeks
He recorded a bunch of videos on the same day and has been releasing them over the weeks.
@ Idk Doug seems like the type of guy to over exaggerate a scratch
Judging from these opinions it must've been pretty bad.
I always loved the look of the BMW i8. When you reviewed the copper colored one, I was in love. I think the problem is that people were expecting a high 400s, low 500hp car to go along with the looks. Ill always be a fan!
doug is the type of guy to put "I Disagree With Everyone Else" when he "disagree with most people"
New series: Doug’s Hot Takes! I love it.
Doug 'not a Porsche guy' with two Porsches behind him
Don't forget that he worked for Porsche North America at their headquarters.
The testarossa is awesome looking you are wrong
Am I loosing my mind? I remember Doug testing both the original testarossa and 512 TR and he was clearly thrilled with both. What changed?
Market positioning - pumping his Countach
Doug likes to rewrite history, like how he pretends that the LFA isn't a good car when he reviewed it very positively in his initial video on it.
The problem I have with screens isn't so much the fact they're screens, but that the first thing to look dated on any car in usually ten years or less is the tech, and physical switches, dials or gauges never look dated.
But it’s not true. Looking at cars from even 2016 in interior they look dated
@@ilon7799 The tech looks dated, infotainment, screens, etc, and they aren't compatible with newer tech, but dials, switches, and gauges look pretty much the same for the past century and never look dated if done right. Take a look at the Jaguar E-Type interior and today's Bugatti Tourbillon, or the F1 and the T.50, then look at an older car with tech, like my 2007 Audi S4, and its seriously dated-looking infotainment with no way to hook it to a phone unless you run a radio broadcast transmitter.
I disagree with Doug, the Testarosa and the LFA do look cool and special.
Don't understand Testarossa one. The Testarossa is legendary. It wasn't made to be something raw and clunky. Its more smoother, GT like and more refined.
Doug hates it because he owns a Countach. He sounded petty on this one.
I’m not convinced that we are going to see ICE cars disappear in the next 4-5 years. New Electric cars not selling that great and the used market is flooded with very depreciated fairly new cars.
Fully disappear, maybe not, but we are approaching the end of the line for manual, NA V8 cars. More and more cars are coming standard with hybrid systems (the latest Camry is hybrid-only for example).
Even if the U.S. and Europe see a slower decline of gasoline cars, China is going full steam ahead on BEVs and EREVs, and they will export these to countries with little or no road trip culture, where a BEV with 200 miles of range is just fine and you can plug into an outlet on the street. This means that US/Euro manufacturers will have to amortize their gasoline vehicle development over a smaller and smaller number of cars, and will naturally focus on hybrids that can sell.
@@evanmorris6508when you remeber that we started saying this “end of an era” crap back in 2018 i think there using this as a sales tactic as long as people will buy it someone will always make it thats my opinion
Pure gasoline powered car will be a rare sight in 5 years. Hybrid/phev will be the book standard of automotive, wheter it's commuter daily cars or enthusiast cars.
We won't. Millions of people don't have a place to plug in every night. People in apartments or with street parking aren't going to switch to something that they have to go hunt down a charger every few days and sit there for an hour. There are still issues with cost, range, longevity, and payload with EVs.
This was a fun video. I see your points on each car - agree with some, disagree with others, but respect the thought process. I have to just cheer your opinion of the Mini Countryman. I'm a car enthusiast in my mid-60s. I've owned dozens of Mercedes, Porsches, Jaguars, etc, and I've always struggled with buying a car for my wife. She doesn't drive much, so I'd buy her a comfortable, safe, boring crossover. Last year, we saw a Countryman on the road, and she commented, "What a cute car, I'd love one of those." I went to our local dealer the next day and drove one. I was SO impressed, I bought one on the spot. She ordered it in racing green (same as my '63 Austin Healey) with white racing stripes and accents. Every time I drive this car, I forget how much it makes me smile. Thanks for identifying this great, fun car that makes even the most dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast happy.
You’re shockingly wrong about the LFA. It’s, very honestly, an incredible looking car. Even today, 13 years later, it looks like it could be coming out this year.
And no, it’s not just my opinion or a few other people’s, it’s the entire car market. Cars simply don’t skyrocket in value because they’re bad. It’s a genuine masterpiece of a car.
If you like the LFA, its fine, everyone has tastes. But what you are saying is wrong. Cars can go up in value because of speculations and bubbles, that doesn't always mean they are good.
Also, an old Nissan Juke looks modern too, that doesnt make it good either.
As the owner of a Mini Countryman JCW, I can confirm it’s one hell of a car. So fun. Always surprises other drivers with its speed, and it’s pretty epic off road too.
Doug’s poor opinions can easily be explained by his head injury
No they’re pretty accurate
5:26 When she says she won’t show you her quirks and features
Lmfao
🤣🤣🤣
I think the main issue with the i8 is that it looks like a super car but it performs nothing like it
Countach vs Testarossa: Testarossa wasn't that rare? They made for something like 5 years, they made Countach for 25. Where they churning out 4 Counties a year or something?
Apparently they made about 10,000 Testarossas and only around 2000 Countaches across all models.
Regarding Mini, you don't buy it because it isn't worth the depreciation and maintenance costs that come with them.
The problem with the Ineos is that it is noisy, not refined, doesn't have features . . . and expensive. If it was 50k, sign me up. 100k . . . where are basic features?
You're paying for a raw off-road experience,, that's what he explained in the video
This is also the problem with Mini, and was the problem with the i8. Price! Most would agree that all are great experiences, but it's important to put a car into perspective with what it costs and compare it with what else you can get for the money
@@ayushefsdfsdfsdf What they're saying is something so raw shouldn't cost so much
Exactly!
@ayushefsdfsdfsdf get a jeep and do it better.
Huge agree on the NC. I also think it looks AMAZING especially from the rear. Also glad to see another countryman stan.
19:02 you can’t get a manual transmission in any mini as of the 2025 model year
Re: Prowler. I was a dealers son. In my late teens and early 20's I got to drive anything. Porsche, Range Rover, M3, Viper, NSX, etc. Absolutely nothing turned heads and got the attention a Prowler did. It is/was an awesome car.
Doug's the kinda guy to miss the point of the Testarossa but then he mad at people for missing the point of a different car.
I8 would be one of my guilty pleasure cars in a dream garage. They are gorgeous and I want one so badly
The i8 isn't a bad car, the problem is just how overpriced and underperforming it was.
Funny thing. I'm about to have a date with the engineer of the hybrid-gearbox integration. Tell me she'd not seen a gearbox in her life, inside nor out, before this job. Had no idea they were this big.
"New" LFA fanfare comes from my generation. The LFA was one of the "WOW" cars in Forza for ex. I grew up playing NFS and loved the IS300 so the LFA was a whole new universe for that brand, and I never knew about the issues it has.
And now we've had our license for 10 years, we know it's overpriced, none of us can afford to try one, but still really want one.
Doug the type of guy to shoot all the videos on the day he was wounded
Doug is the type of guy to drive around in a Lamborghini countach with a bandage on his face
So if I’m understanding…Doug’s opinion on the M2 is that we shouldn’t care that it’s ugly because it’s the last one…? Oh and if you disagree it’s because you can’t afford one😂
No it's worse, is that we should be grateful because of that
how is it ugly?
Pretty concerning for a supposed car reviewer to say that, innit?
Prowler is legitimately a dream car for me (born 1986). I absolutely must have it with the trailer and will absolutely use it for special jobs in my line of work as an auto detailer.
Testarossa > Countach by far. The vibe, the look, that car is the 80s.
Gotta love how for the cars and bids promo all the cars he showed were talked about in the video.
Doug is the type of guy to get in a street fight involving knives, and then make a TH-cam video 5 minutes after
1:14 i bet the LFA gonna come up
Your memory is failing you, a bit, regarding the LFA. It was a decently big release and has since been known as one of the best driving production cars ever made. It also looks incredible from every angle and sounds better than most super cars.
Its only downside was that it doesn’t have a dual clutch due to when it came out. The value of the LFA will absolutely continue to rise. It’s, hands down, one of Japan’s greatest cars of all time and your views on it are quite off, objectively speaking.
Thank you so much Doug, especially for having BMWs in this Video! Couldn't agree more and i'm an Audi Guy all my Life!
It's so tiresome to check any Car Review TH-camrs Comment Section on any BMW ever, because before reading them, you know it's the exact same Comments as on any other BMW Review (including several previous Models going all the Way back to 2005!
So I'll always respect Doug for being the only Car TH-camr who doesn't automatically repeat and say what so many Comments say but doesn't mind saying Stuff like "It doesn't look that bad", "It grew on me" and sometimes also "People cry about this and that new Model but mark my Words, in a few Years they will love it."
Of course pointing out how People reacted the very same Way for the Model before that and the one before that etc.
See this especially with BMW Models but as Doug mentioned in the last Podcast also with the 4Runner and other Cars of other Brands
Prost & Cheers from the Snow-Covered Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Testarossa not good looking? Is that band-aid blocking your view? :)
They should have called the Countryman the Maxi, which was an Austin family sized car back when the original Mini was being marketed as a city runabout.
As for the BMW I8 it is the coolest looking car I ever see people taking to the local retail park to do their shopping.