679 | All-Time Yankees Draft
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2:00 - Rules
5:00 - Draft Begins
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Brooo I can’t describe how happy watching this has made me. My Brother, Dad and I would do stuff like this and this exactly, throughout my whole childhood. Brought back such good memories, thank you.
I'm dropping in to say Matsui absolutely should count as DH
No he shouldn’t. He played 400 Less games as a DH. And the guy who wanted him pouted like a baby after he was told he can’t take him.
BBD best team I feel all around, even with the Manfred-esque mid tournament rule change with Matsui. Well done lads
BBD got done dirty with the Matsui and DH decisions.
it really is a blessing for yankee fans to be able to do this and still have like productive players on all three teams. as a royals fan if i tried this we’d be talking alciedes escobar and david dejesus real quick
HAHAHA so true. I'm a Guardians fan and although I could make a team or even two but THREE?! idk 😂😂
Kinda ridiculous that Matsui can't count as DH given he played two full years as essentially DH only and won WS MVP as a DH with only a 100 game regular season difference between DH and LF. I do get Jimmy's point that he wouldn't have taken Oscar Gamble but I think he was being overly captain literal and since it was only two picks prior they should have let Jimmy redo his pick. There's no reason Jake could put Ruth in LF but BBD couldn't put Matsui at DH.
For the DH they should have done either 1) give a different percentage of DH games played threshold or 2) make it essentially a UTIL position BUT you have to pick the UTIL only after you've filled in every one of your offensive positions
Gamble 40% of yankees starts were at DH. Matsui is 28%. had to be a good chunk to count!
@@TalkinYanks that's fair - also think it's a bit of a generational difference too. Jimmy and Jake firmly remember a consistent Bernie + Matsui outfield whereas fans at the age of me and BBD mainly remember Matsui as a primary DH with Damon in LF except for days we'd punt on defense with Matsui LF Damon CF
@@TalkinYanks Gamble never played there full time. Most starts were 74 in a season. He was typically a DH for like 20 games a year. Matsui played over 100 games as a DH in 2009.
@@TalkinYanks who cares if it’s 28%? He spent two full years playing the position for the team. Won a World Series and a World Series mvp at DH. Makes no sense. He played the position. Plain and simple.
Damn I want you guys to do this for every team in the MLB
absolutely insane that Mickey Mantle was left until the 9th pick
Totally
It's about drafting not just talent though, there are good CF options, whereas other positions, there aren't that many good options behind a 1/2 players. Like at third or SS.
@@wilks1878 the difference between having a top 10 player of all-time and getting Bernie Williams is a much bigger impact than getting rizzuto or nettles over some other decent player, mantle and DiMaggio we're drafted way to late whichever way you slice it
I had a major issue with that. Keep in mind their strategy wasn't necessarily to draft the best players but to build the best team which meant they were playing keep away and drafting positions of scarcity first.
@@cb4460 agree 100%!
Jomboy took this way too seriously. It must be exhausting to be around him in real life when he gets like that.
Sick video🔥. Not gonna lie it hurt a little hearing Jomboy ask when Ruffing(my favorite pitcher) pitched LOL but it was 1936-1942 for The Yankees. From 1936-39 the first team to 3 and 4peat he was the ace("Co Ace"with Lefty) had 20+ wins all four years and could hit. He once pitched a CG shutout and hit the walk off HR in the 10th to win 1-0. The red sox thought he wasn't good lol. Props to Jake and that early grab and BBD on Lefty. For Jomboy everytime with 2B sitting open late I was yelling Lazzeri, Lazzeri and was hyped when he took him. He would have been my 1st pick at 2B. I would have liked to see Bill Dickey get picked another criminally underrated player .313 career as a catcher and taught Yogi about being a great catcher. Extremely clutch as well. During the 4Peat he hit .334 with RISP and .361 with 2 outs and RISP
I used to do this with my friends when we were in high school and college. So much fun. Thank you guys for this continuous wonderful and wholesome content.
BBD won the draft, even with Matsui getting stolen
Do a draft with a 4th guest. Whoever that guest’s favorite team is, gets implemented as the all-time draft. Like an all-time Yankees & all-time Dodgers Draft
THIS IDEA PLEASE!
My Dad was a big dodgers fan... in Brooklyn. He's in his 80s now.
This is great. Do full teams and simulate them against each other in OOTP and have everyone make managerial decisions.
Glad to see Houdini stuck as a nickname for D-Rob. I was the one who got the name into baseball reference. Someone in the stadium had a sign that called him Houdini and Michael Kay used the name a few times, so I emailed them to ask them to add it to his page and they did.
So... Jomboy's infield, Jake's outfield, and BBD's pitching. Winners all around.
BBD has (by far) the best pitching staff, Jake has the best outfield, jimmy has the best infield.
No King Kong Keller
I've thought about my ultimate all-time Yankee team, & this is how I'd do it. Note: I'm operating under the assumption that it'd be a 26-man roster. In my twisted universe, a player could play on multiple all-time teams simultaneously (so Rickey Henderson, for example, could play on the all-time Yankees & A's at the same time). I haven't decided on a long reliever, & 2 spots in the rotation.:
Starting Lineup:
Vs. RHP:
1) Rickey Henderson (LF);
2) Joe DiMaggio (CF);
3) Babe Ruth (DH);
4) Lou Gehrig (1B);
5) Mickey Mantle (RF);
6) Alex Rodriguez (3B);
7) Yogi Berra (C);
8) Robinson Cano (2B);
9) Derek Jeter (SS).
Vs. LHP:
1) Rickey;
2) DiMaggio;
3) Ruth;
4) Gehrig;
5) A-Rod;
6) Mantle;
7) Jeter;
8) Yogi;
9) Willie Randolph (2B).
Bench:
Bill Dickey (C);
Don Mattingly (1B);
Willie/Cano (2B);
Tony Lazzeri (2B/3B/SS);
Bernie Williams (OF).
Starting Rotation: After Whitey Ford, I haven't decided how I'd arrange the other 4 spots (though Ron Guidry & Andy Pettitte would be in there somewhere).
Bullpen:
Long Reliever: ???;
Middle Relievers: Aroldis Chapman, Dellin Betances & Dave Righetti;
Set-Up: Sparky Lyle & Goose Gossage;
Closer: Mariano Rivera.
Questions? Comments? Cries of outrage?
BBD got shredded for that DH pick
BBD always get shredded for picks. Jimmy fights his picks about once a draft it feels like.
This is gonna be soooooooo good
Y’all guys are the best!!
Bill Dickey biggest snub - 7th All Time in WAR for Yankees 56.5 (ahead of Arod)
Yankees starting pitching isn't shallow. They're loaded with guys, just most of them are from the 30s and earlier. Guys like Herb Pennock, Waite Hoyte, Lefty Gomez, Jack Chesbro and Red Ruffing. Then add to that guys from later on like Ford, Guidry, CC, Pettitte, El Duque down to Tanaka. (Last two are worth drafting just for October)
Shortstop is the biggest dropoff, second has Cano and Lazerri then a drop but third, I would say Red Rolfe is on par with Nettles.
Would love to see the Shea Station Boys do this for the Mets
thinking about Gehrig and Arod trying to get along is pretty funny
DH should've been a grab bag so long as they played a majority with the Yanks so that the likes of Teixeira, Moose Skowron, Dickey or Earl Combs could've made a roster instead of 3 middling players as DH's.
Matsui should count
Clear that Jake wom as soon as he picked the Babe
I just LOOOOVE Jake!
No Elston Howard anywhere? Whoa big move, also Jake’s pick of Randolph was sneaky good arguably the best second baseman available and got him out of the top 15
Too many good catchers on the Yanks.
@@Sam_on_TH-cam he also played a lot of LF iirc
Oscar Gamble with the best quote of all time “They don’t think it be like it is, but it do”
I farted and instantly jimmy says. Ohhh that smell😂😂
Yogi, Posada, Dicky, Munson, Howard. I would argue catcher is more balanced than center. Yogi is the best, but the next four are all neck and neck and not much worse.
wow. jimmy ruining another draft
BBD, the mics have a 'hollow' sound to them from time to time. Just letting you know.
Before watching i def got Giambi/ Soriano/ Gardner on my board as non obvious picks
Jim Lyttle, Ron Woods and Curt Blefary are my outfield. 3rd base Rich McKinney, SS Gene Michael, 2nd Base Horace Clarke, 1st Base Wally Pipp, Catcher Jake Gibbs, SP Dooley Womack, Thad Tillotson, Left Handed Pitcher Mike Kekich.. Bullpen Hal Reniff, Steve Hamilton. Bench Tom Shopay and Ron Swoboda. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matsui and lemonade picks both involved a innocent pick with what should have been acceptable reasoning in a what should be non competitive draft and both picks included jimmy being that one kid who just takes everything so serious and Jake is just sitting there in away subtly saying it’s not a big deal if that pick counts and then jimmy goes and finds all the little details that makes the pick illegal lmao
I mean the lemonade segment became an office wide conversation. People tweeting at us and getting involved. Me changing to apple juice and making lemonade illegal had BBD cackling and was the funniest moment. I think you’re taking it more serious than you’re saying I do. None of it matters. It’s a fake draft with fake debates and fake grandstanding. That’s the concept. Can’t just be saying things then everyone claps and says good answer good answer like we’re on family feud.
@@TalkinYanks i just got destroyed …my apologies 😂 love all the channels you I will get my brother in law a dugout mug to makeup for it
If Dimaggio didn't leave baseball to fight in WWII in the middle of his prime, imagine how silly his stats would be. He would overtake Babe as the face of the Yankees. Some already consider him so.
Anyone should have been available as a DH considering anyone is available as a DH
Tino Martinez over Mark Teixeira?? Cmon jake!!
Crazy that Bob Wickman only had 5 years in the Bronx. I only think of him in pinstripes.
BBD is the winner for me
Jomboy just changes the rules when he doesn’t like someone’s pick
I'm going with Jake's team
Gonna need to modify rules so Reggie Jackson could be DH. Maybe play minimum 5 years as a Yankee? It was fun guys.
What I want to know is which team has the highest WAR? I guess you would calculate it by using only their time as a Yankee and if possible only when playing a specific position.
DH that would have fit into your constraints - Kevin Maas
Kevin Maas for DH
I'm not a Yankee fan but I was genuinely surprised that Maris stats weren't better. I'm not saying they are bad but I thought he had more all time numbers. Still really good I would've thought he was more in the 400 ish career HR and not less than 300.
Love the draft idea, but surprised Maris didn't get picked
Even C.C. wasn't an OG Yankee, he had some of his best years with Cleveland and Milwaukee
Draft suggestion- Cameo Yankees/Prominent players on other teams but also played with the Yankees
Top 5 is easy for me, after that it gets a bit tougher.
Ruth
Gehrig
DiMaggio
Mantle
Berra
Rivera
Jeter
Ford
Then I get caught up with some guys from my childhood who honestly may actually not be better than guys I ranked lower or didn't have in top ten. So I go with Don Mattingly at 8th and Bernie Williams at 9th.
Rounding out the top 10 I will just throw out Rizzuto which may be mostly my love for him as a color guy doing Yankees tv games in the late 80s to 90s. Always left before the seventh inning to get home to his wife Cora.
mickey mantle was the NINTH PICK ?
watching this while crossing my fingers about soto a year later
Draft idea: Draft the best team possible with current players only
Would love to see a full 25/26 man roster of this draft.
I've thought about my ultimate all-time Yankee team, & this is how I'd do it. Note: I'm operating under the assumption that it'd be a 26-man roster. In my twisted universe, a player could play on multiple all-time teams simultaneously (so Rickey Henderson, for example, could play on the all-time Yankees & A's at the same time). I haven't decided on a long reliever, & 2 spots in the rotation.:
Starting Lineup:
Vs. RHP:
1) Rickey Henderson (LF);
2) Joe DiMaggio (CF);
3) Babe Ruth (DH);
4) Lou Gehrig (1B);
5) Mickey Mantle (RF);
6) Alex Rodriguez (3B);
7) Yogi Berra (C);
8) Robinson Cano (2B);
9) Derek Jeter (SS).
Vs. LHP:
1) Rickey;
2) DiMaggio;
3) Ruth;
4) Gehrig;
5) A-Rod;
6) Mantle;
7) Jeter;
8) Yogi;
9) Willie Randolph (2B).
Bench:
Bill Dickey (C);
Don Mattingly (1B);
Willie/Cano (2B);
Tony Lazzeri (2B/3B/SS);
Bernie Williams (OF).
Starting Rotation: After Whitey Ford, I haven't decided how I'd arrange the other 4 spots (though Ron Guidry & Andy Pettitte would be in there somewhere).
Bullpen:
Long Reliever: ???;
Middle Relievers: Aroldis Chapman, Dellin Betances & Dave Righetti;
Set-Up: Sparky Lyle & Goose Gossage;
Closer: Mariano Rivera.
Questions? Comments? Cries of outrage?
@@LysergiCoyotl All of them would be great candidates for the starting rotation &/or long relief spot, with the exception of Randy Johnson. As incredible as his overall career was, he really didn't do anything with the Yankees (so he wouldn't deserve a spot on this team)
I think Lou Gehrig is actually underrated. I think he is legit top ten period.
He got picked 5th
@@gusreale2234 mean top ten Player of all players. Just feel that despite being respected he is in the shadow of babe and doesn't get the full credit he deserves.
Graig Nettles deserves to be in the HOF. Most people will point to Reggie Jackson as the most impactful player during their 77-78 championships, but compare them by WAR and factor in defense and you'll see that Nettles, Randolph and Guidry were really the straws that stirred that drink.
It was Thurman Munson
@@charlesburge3074 - Munson was good, too. Particularly in '77.
@@semperconstance Munson was the straw that stirred the Yankees. Which is why he was their captain
Late to the race, but, Blomberg played the field longer than not and bonus points for Chesbro.
Ask BBD if the Matsui DH or lemonade ≠ juice veto hurt more
by far matsui. before i picked lemonade i said "you guys might veto this" but i didn't think it had even a small chance of happening on matsui
Took way to long for Dimaggio to be picked
The pod dropped eeeearly. No intro music on the pod.
Get more people even us fans involved. Then setup a tournament on the show 22 winner gets to go to a game with you guys or be on the show along with prizes from sponsors
Dude my mom loves Andy. Jake was totally right
What about the Big Three - Reynolds, Lopat and Raschi?
Jomboy messed up taking Matsui. He forgot that Jake put Ruth at left and the position was available to just leave until the end. Could have picked El Duque then.
Pepper Jack Cheese Bro
First overall pick will be OP
BBD probably made the most unforced errors in this draft, if you have a chance to pick Lou Gehrig (Career 116.3 fWAR, best all time at 1B in MLB history) and Mickey Mantle (Career 112.3 fWAR, 4th best CF in MLB history) back to back, you should do that. I know Mo's the best reliever in history, but he was worth only 40 fWAR over his career thanks to how infrequently he actually took the field, and so he's only worth a third of what Mickey and Lou were. Also, picking Gardner at all was a huge unforced L. Jeter's also a stretch at number 3, considering that the difference between Jeter's career WAR and Crosetti's is 45.7, which is a lot! But the difference between Lou Gehrig and Don Mattingly is 75.6 WAR, making it more costly to pick the second best first baseman than it was to pick the third best shortstop.
There were other big misses, no Bill Dickey is a snub, considering only Berra's better at catcher, no Charlie Keller in left field is also a big fat L, Joe Gordon was possibly better than Tony Lazzeri, but that's at least a bit closer. But really the biggest one is still picking Mantle ninth. Jomboy and Jake each had a chance to pick the third best player in team history, one of only 20 position players to be worth 100 WAR in the history of Major League Baseball, and the greatest switch hitter in the history of baseball, and they picked a third baseman not in the Hall of Fame, a shortstop not in the Hall of Fame, and a pitcher not in the Hall of Fame.
Will Matsui be drafted?
I feel bad for BBD, you can tell he’s bothered
I liked Mark Teixeira as the third 1b.
Roy White (46.8 WAR) should have been picked as second best left fielder - beats Matsui (21.2) and Gardner (44.3) in WAR and if you want to say Matsui had his best years in Japan, well then he shouldn't count as a Yankee because he played more years there than for the Yankees
Whats the total war for each team?
Lou Gehrig is easily the greatest 1st baseman to ever live, was better than the Babe in some seasons, absolute steal at #5
Wade Boggs is always an option for 3rd
1 of their rules is that each player had to play for the Yankees more than any other team, so he wasn't eligible
Im sorry, but Matsui should easily count as a DH
didn't melky play slot of DH
BBD with Munson Mattingly Mantle & Mo wins it for me..
BBD getting hosed on the Matsui at DH pick is a crime of this generation.
No speed ? No chemistry ! It’s not just numbers. miki rivers.
Greg Byrd gotta be on there
Bob Shawkey not a sexy pick but 43.2 WAR as a Yankee to CC's 29.6 WAR as a Yankee
Gil McDougald 40.7 WAR would have been a better choice than Clete Boyer 27.6 for 3B
Will Red Ruffing go
They need to make a movie and give a plaque in moment park to Red Ruffing
Charles Herbert "Red" Ruffing Postseason Record with Yankees:
7 World Series: 10 starts, 8 complete games 7-2 2.52 ERA 1.179 WHIP and 6 World Series Rings...
The one year they lost the World Series in 1942 he was in his 5th straight all star season
Game 1: he had a no hitter with 2 outs in the 8th inning allowed a single, got taken out in the 9th with 2 outs Yankees win 5-4
Game 5: Complete game loss - allows a 2 run HR in top of the 9th, Yankees lose 4-2 and lose the series 4 games to 1
He misses the next two years World War 2 despite missing 4 toes on his left foot from a coal mining accident after he had to drop out of school and work as a kid and pitched a perfect game for the Army Air Transport Command's baseball team against Joe DiMaggio's team. Comes back in July of 1945 after being discharged from the Army for turning 40 and goes 5-1 with a 1.77 ERA before getting stuck by a line drive breaking his knee cap and missing the rest of the year.
He was a great hitter with the 4th most HR all time for a pitcher with 36 and was often called on to pinch hit and had a .695 career OPS and was probably the second most lopsided trade in Yankees history after Babe Ruth. Ruffing had lost 25 and 22 games for Boston by the Yankees saw something in him and were able get him for Cedric Durst and $50,000 and change his delivery and turn him into a HOF pitcher. Red Ruffing also invented the slider.
#1 pick, Brett gAHHdnaHh
😭😭
Jomboy whined his way into Matsui. Big L for letting that happen BBD. Matsui is definitely a countable DH smh
BBD for the win!
BBD's team I think wins out in a 7 game series over Jake and Jomboys.
Gardner over Bob Meusel?
how is rickey henderson not picked over gardner lol.i wou;ld take rickeys worst year as a yankee over gardners best year as a yankee
Jomboy could’ve taken matsui with his last pick and took him 23rd overall instead 😂
Red Ruffing?!
DiDi Gregory's at SS?!?!
Curtis Granderson?
No Tommy Heinrich “Old Reliable”