I think what makes it carry Vaati as a villain is his design. It is kinda simple and flows as some sort of counterpoint to Link, he is not really that threatening and in some other context he could be even protagonist by his design. Ganon(-dorf)'s design is almost always totally opposite of Link. Gabon is more a force of nature than personal villain towards Link while Vaati could work as more personal counterpoint and perhaps work as more nuanced character than just as a villain. Manga version kinda drove that saying how Link became stronger by buckling it up and going there swinging, while Vaati was looking for easier path. He perhaps could work as sort of Vegeta in larger canon, but that is mostly fan-theorizing.
Cia from Hyrule Warriors should've been on this list since her goal is not about conquering Hyrule. Her main motives however is to kidnap Princess Zelda so she can have Link all for herself.
@@LittleBeanGreen Astor is an interesting villain as well. Even without a bit of background, we knew he was a part of the cult that worships Calamity Ganon. I wonder if he does exist in the original timeline and whether or not he was the fortuneteller that tells King Rhoam about the Ganon’s return.
@@LittleBeanGreen demise finds a new host and tries to use Riju as a puppet, figuring overwhelming will allow fun siezure of hyrule. The temples with people's homes like the Yeti dungeon in TP, Link and Zelda should be brother and sister you play as both, with different abilities. Link is tougher, stroner and use more weapons but Zelda has more to puzzle solving abilities, can fit into pace link, she could have unique of persuading npcs to help her out. Also, the next should be more urban. Like really, with the invention of the printing press, the guardian tech, then zonai tech and cannons in Zelda, LOZ is apt for a early modern or industrial revolution setting. Matchlock guns and crossbows in zelda. hell, we already have trains in spirt tracks and all the sci tech. Maybe the head to head combat skill zelda has over zelda that isn't magic is she better with a gun than he is.
What annoys me is that Fi is supposed to be Hylia's counter to Ghirahim but then why is she so damn robotic and incomplete. She literally LACKS ARMS! Why doesn't Fi's design get changed every time we upgraded her Sword Form with the True Master Sword making her look complete?
I mean, by being the opposites, I think it makes sense Ghirahim being the one adventuring and fighting while Fi is the support for the adventurer and fighter Link.
The Prince of Hyrule (Zelda's brother) and the Magician from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link should be put in the honorable mentions . Same goes with Twinrova, Master Kohga, and Malladus.
You know, in prepping this video I was looking at those old games and there's some theorizing that the Magician was actually Ganon, so I left him off. Twin Rover and Master Kohga are more side antagonists to me: if you keep the Oracle games separate, Twin Rover don't really figure in, and if you never explore the Yiga fortress or Depths, you miss Kohga, but that doesn't really alter the trajectory of the game.
How cool would it be to bring back and fight a bunch of teamed up familiar zelda baddies like this in one game, all updated to a similar art style but still very much identifiable? Nintendo pleaaaseeee
@@LittleBeanGreen Thats quite literally what makes him so great. Dude, did you not play Hyrule Warriors? He would be really, really boring in that game if it wasn’t for his childish side. The mf literally yells ouchie
@@LittleBeanGreen Trust me bro, that’s rather a you problem than a me problem. Not when my opinion of Zant is clearly the one that the majority of the fandom supports
@@topfranluis1 You and the fandom can support it however much you'd like. If I thought him being a sniveling brat made him a better villain, then he'd be higher on the list. But as it stands, you're right. Completely a me problem, no trust required.
I feel similarly about Twinrova as I do about Onox & Veran - not really Big Bad material - especially if you don't play the linked versions of the Oracle games. It might be cool to have a future game that explores them in more detail, perhaps as we see the birth of a new Gerudo male...what are your thoughts on Twinrova?
@@LittleBeanGreen for me, I really like her she’s a pretty interesting character tbh, her theme is really good and they could have used her in TOTK but missed potential, also I love that scene after the nabooru iron knuckle mini boss
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I had a friend in elementary school who was OBSESSED with vaati. And I think it rubbed off on me, I've also always been fond of him.
All the more reason to bring him back.
Ghirahim is my favorite villain of all time.
He's the best.
I always saw Yuga as an off-brand Ghirahim. Both very full of themselves, flamboyant, jester-themed and have the same taste in earrings.
Yuga seems like an off-brand Ghirahim + Ganondorf.
**Cries in no Chancellor Cole**
nah he booted
Be real, Byrne is better
@@Utopia390rl This is *INCORRECT!* Byrne is not a tiny lil evil gremlin man with a quirky and mischievous theme. 😈
@@mr.j3rs3y a fair point. Counterargument: which one didn't die like a b*tch?
I think what makes it carry Vaati as a villain is his design. It is kinda simple and flows as some sort of counterpoint to Link, he is not really that threatening and in some other context he could be even protagonist by his design. Ganon(-dorf)'s design is almost always totally opposite of Link. Gabon is more a force of nature than personal villain towards Link while Vaati could work as more personal counterpoint and perhaps work as more nuanced character than just as a villain. Manga version kinda drove that saying how Link became stronger by buckling it up and going there swinging, while Vaati was looking for easier path. He perhaps could work as sort of Vegeta in larger canon, but that is mostly fan-theorizing.
Would be cool to see him in a 3D title.
Cia from Hyrule Warriors should've been on this list since her goal is not about conquering Hyrule. Her main motives however is to kidnap Princess Zelda so she can have Link all for herself.
I only stuck to the mainline games - maybe I'll look into villains in spinoffs in a future vid!
@@LittleBeanGreen Astor is an interesting villain as well. Even without a bit of background, we knew he was a part of the cult that worships Calamity Ganon.
I wonder if he does exist in the original timeline and whether or not he was the fortuneteller that tells King Rhoam about the Ganon’s return.
@@a.jthomas6132 All of that would be conjecture, I'd imagine. Sounds like a video you should make ;)
@@a.jthomas6132 He wasn't, Zelda nor King Rhoam seems to recognize him, he's just a Ganon-simp that Harbinger Ganon found easy to manipulate.
I'd be down for a non-handheld return of Vaati, for sure.
get on dat, Nintendo
@@LittleBeanGreen demise finds a new host and tries to use Riju as a puppet, figuring overwhelming will allow fun siezure of hyrule. The temples with people's homes like the Yeti dungeon in TP, Link and Zelda should be brother and sister you play as both, with different abilities. Link is tougher, stroner and use more weapons but Zelda has more to puzzle solving abilities, can fit into pace link, she could have unique of persuading npcs to help her out. Also, the next should be more urban. Like really, with the invention of the printing press, the guardian tech, then zonai tech and cannons in Zelda, LOZ is apt for a early modern or industrial revolution setting. Matchlock guns and crossbows in zelda. hell, we already have trains in spirt tracks and all the sci tech. Maybe the head to head combat skill zelda has over zelda that isn't magic is she better with a gun than he is.
@@PJDAltamirus0425 I've got something cooking along those lines ;)
@@PJDAltamirus0425 Demise is dead, bro.
And no, Ganondorf is no "host"
Vaati is my fave Zelda emo villain😂
What annoys me is that Fi is supposed to be Hylia's counter to Ghirahim but then why is she so damn robotic and incomplete. She literally LACKS ARMS! Why doesn't Fi's design get changed every time we upgraded her Sword Form with the True Master Sword making her look complete?
Interesting point. I've got something in the pipeline about how Ghirahim and Fi are foils - but I don't know why she is PHYSICALLY incomplete.
I mean, by being the opposites, I think it makes sense Ghirahim being the one adventuring and fighting while Fi is the support for the adventurer and fighter Link.
@@Mari_Izu It's just bizarre she has no arms 😅
@@LittleBeanGreen Hylia just sucks at drawing hands xD
@@Mari_Izu xD
The Prince of Hyrule (Zelda's brother) and the Magician from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link should be put in the honorable mentions . Same goes with Twinrova, Master Kohga, and Malladus.
You know, in prepping this video I was looking at those old games and there's some theorizing that the Magician was actually Ganon, so I left him off. Twin Rover and Master Kohga are more side antagonists to me: if you keep the Oracle games separate, Twin Rover don't really figure in, and if you never explore the Yiga fortress or Depths, you miss Kohga, but that doesn't really alter the trajectory of the game.
How cool would it be to bring back and fight a bunch of teamed up familiar zelda baddies like this in one game, all updated to a similar art style but still very much identifiable? Nintendo pleaaaseeee
Oooooh interesting - DO IT, NINTENDO
Uhhh… yeah. Zant not being cut out to be the main antagonist was his whole point. There’s no reason to put him below weak ahh Vaati just for that
Nah, Ganondorf didn't need to be involved and Zant didn't have to have a temper tantrum.
@@LittleBeanGreen Thats quite literally what makes him so great. Dude, did you not play Hyrule Warriors? He would be really, really boring in that game if it wasn’t for his childish side. The mf literally yells ouchie
@@topfranluis1Maybe that's your thing, but that don't sound like a particularly interesting character trait to me.
@@LittleBeanGreen Trust me bro, that’s rather a you problem than a me problem. Not when my opinion of Zant is clearly the one that the majority of the fandom supports
@@topfranluis1 You and the fandom can support it however much you'd like. If I thought him being a sniveling brat made him a better villain, then he'd be higher on the list. But as it stands, you're right. Completely a me problem, no trust required.
What about Twinrova?, what do you think about her or (them?] also my favourite villains are easily Ghirahim and Vaati
I feel similarly about Twinrova as I do about Onox & Veran - not really Big Bad material - especially if you don't play the linked versions of the Oracle games. It might be cool to have a future game that explores them in more detail, perhaps as we see the birth of a new Gerudo male...what are your thoughts on Twinrova?
@@LittleBeanGreen for me, I really like her she’s a pretty interesting character tbh, her theme is really good and they could have used her in TOTK but missed potential, also I love that scene after the nabooru iron knuckle mini boss
@@Twin_cia I think they SHOULD'VE used her more in TotK.
@@LittleBeanGreen yeah
also when I first saw Yuga, I literally thought he was a woman 💀
That probably would've still worked 😅
another great video! Keep it up!
Thanks!
Thank you being so kind all mighty Loving God help me and these people to better understand you amen
and with your spirit
Hilda did nothing wrong.
ALBW is one of the only games in the series I've yet to play!
Ganondorf já deu já... Boring!
we want new blood!
Null was a refreshing surprise to the series.
@@wearywanderer1912 I'll have something to say about him at some point.