Clement's understanding was shallow, Pule stated from the beginning that the cars were delivered to the department but remained in the possession of Enviromobi. It was the prerogative of the dept to collect and deploy the procured vehicles to different provinces. Enviromobi had every right to charge for storage, that was an additional charge over and beyond the supply of vehicles. Yes Clement got it right in relation to Pule's wife involvement with Enviromobi. He should've stuck to those facts (upfront payment, wife's involvement & Pule's ownership of Enviromobi) rather than trying to nail Pule on why Government failed to collect that's not relevant to Pule (Government officials must account for that, not Pule). The notion of objective and impartial journalism doesnt exist/its a phalacy, even Clement Manyathela is pushing a particular narrative.
You are not naking sense yourself How do you deliver a product to a customer/client when it remains in your porsition? Even worse you gladly accept remunaration for storing that product in your premises come on we are no fulls.😅
@bonginkosimyaka6223 here's some free "sense" for you, this is how GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT works. 1. Government opens an RFQ (request for quotation) from suitable suppliers. 2. They select the preferred supplier. 3. Supplier supplies goods, now this is where GOVERNMENT accepts and takes possession of goods. 4. Government has a responsibility to sign off on the goods against the FRQ and supplier is paid. 5. Normally the goods "delivery" address is stated clearly in the RFQ. If the government department wanted the goods to be delivered to various/different addresses then they should've made that clear. Now that you've been given a free lesson. Do you understand that it's NOT the suppliers responsibility to FORCE government to take the goods from them? The RFQ was for the supply of good and goods were delivered to government. If the government fails to take their goods then it's NOT the supplier's fault. Supplier has every right to charge for storage. So THERE IS SENSE RIGHT there...go figure. Where Pule and company should account is concerning up-front payment and how Pule suddenly removed himself from the company directorship/ownership. That's were there are possible irregularities not that government has not taken possession of the goods they procured from a supplier. In fact the supply company has every right to take government to court. Please argue from FACTS not from emotions.
@MCBManana does your explaination dispute the fact that coruption happened in that business transaction? Secondly pule had an opportunity to clarify this whole thing during that interview but he didn't. 1 thing we will not do is to fold our arms and keep quiet when the tax payers money gets waisted on wrongfully awarded tenders as well as all sorts of irregular expenditures. Lastly if being concerned about coruption and it's negative inpact amounts to being emotional in your wurld than we will gladly accept that and scream as loud as we can when we can smell coruption.
clement tried to accommodate Pules arrogance and ignorance. IN COURT ITS GONNA B A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME, THE QUESTION ASKED IS THE ONE ANSWERED.....THE REST OF HIS NARRATIVE HE CAN TAKE AND GO FLY AVIATOR
Pule talks too much he will regret this PR exercise he is doing, he is out on bail and talks as though he is in Lithuli house.You can imagine for two years you invoice the department and still you don't know the delivery address,😅😅😅 Pule undermine Clement by accepting the invite 😅
The ANC today. This man was once a spoke person of the ANC. You are doing business with your wife, who's a director in a company that you owned. Yo, yo, yo, voting for such nonsensical leaders to lead us. Slowly he's becoming emotional, he's literally not a good liar, and the journalist is well trained. This man must be arrested asp.
This guy is taking us all to be stupid.🤔. This guy is so guilty you cannot believe. Damn people money guy. Shame on you and your family and friends.🙏✌️
Township is still my home. And I wonder,if my black brothers got the helm around 1984 how will this country be,especially when one witnesses this kind of reckless leaders.
Most critical questions here needed to be responded to by the department. You the guy who always interject this video I'm glad that you are not a prosecutor otherwise you would be a bad one , you don't listen carefully and you are mostly driven by excitement.
Good journalism would have started the interview first by interrogating the procurement process and why Enviromobi was favoured over others without prior experience. T&C of the contract. If there was any deviation, was it approved and by who? Delivery and taking ownership of stock should have been stipulated in the contract. If the above is in order, Pule is not corrupt
You are understanding it my way. So many issues seem to me pule is logically correct. There is no way a department could not want cars to be delivered for 2 years. Interesting case
I'm here, I am not Jan van rebiek. Why can't he just stand up and leave, embarrassing and incriminating yourself like this publicy. If I was his lawyer, I would recuse myself and tell him to represent himself rather tarnish my reputation as a lawyer.
True that! But Pule should have found out what was the reason rather than beating about the bush, which made the whole thing suspicious and smells of corruption!...
@MoCreaTV to me and how I listened Pule said it many times to clement that he can not answer or speak on behalf or for the department and to me that was fair .
@@NicholusCwebi Pule says he can't speak for Department and you believe that?I buy a car from you and I don't collect it and you don't ask questions as why am I not fetching my car, and that is fair to you?🤷♂ Hayi Bo! Nic!... Kahle Ndoda!
Atlleast if he said that I played my role because the vehicles were procured, invoices are available then the rest I can't say a word unless the department has knowledge as to where they'll found their goods.
I thought Pule is wise. How do you go public while your case is in court. Foolish move indeed. I understand why you were removed as spokesman of the ANC and the reason you supported Zweli Mkhize. Your responsebilty is to account and clear your name in court not to convinced the public.
Delivery does not take place by possession of something in law of contract. There is what they short hand delivery. I'm no sure of all fact as to whether there was corruption or not but that department was made aware and viewed the cars that may constitute delivery
So, The Government Dept. gives you R6M to keep those vehicles for 2yrs, and immediately after, you send your wife R4.5M that you can't explain what was it for?🤷♂Wow!... Pule!✨
I think you are just obsessed with pule. How does it concern me if I sold something and you don't come to collect it? It's also a business as I'll charge you for storage.
Hes been trying to clarify a lot of things and still nothing was clarified
So true hey!🤣🤣🤣💦
Clement is so good with his soft speaking. You can't escape his questions he is direct and firm 😅😅
He doesn't let you go I tell you!😂🤣💦
@@kingseb2119 like it's personal 😂😂
Well the least we talk about the ANC the better. Shame on those who are stil proud of it.
I agree! totally!
If confusion was a person Pule would be the great example he cant answer simple straight forward questions
You can say that again!😂🤣🤣🤣💦
😂😂😂
Absolutely fraud
Mhonqonqo:😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣,our taxes stolen by these people. ANC, ANC ANC,you people literally whipped us with a scourge as citizens really😢😢😢😢
😂😂😂
The guy is desperately trying to cover the truth. He is not making sense at all
Exactly!😂😂😂
Mabe is a crook and finish...
Pule you are vicious ,corrupt and you were there enrich your self
That's all...Nothing else! He was there for self enrichment!😂
Spokesman for Amabubezi is telling us nonsense here😢😢😢
Yeah! He does hey!😂😂😂
What do you expect from the ANC, topical. They will see even better in the next election.
Yep!...These guys don't care anymore!
Clement's understanding was shallow, Pule stated from the beginning that the cars were delivered to the department but remained in the possession of Enviromobi. It was the prerogative of the dept to collect and deploy the procured vehicles to different provinces.
Enviromobi had every right to charge for storage, that was an additional charge over and beyond the supply of vehicles. Yes Clement got it right in relation to Pule's wife involvement with Enviromobi. He should've stuck to those facts (upfront payment, wife's involvement & Pule's ownership of Enviromobi) rather than trying to nail Pule on why Government failed to collect that's not relevant to Pule (Government officials must account for that, not Pule).
The notion of objective and impartial journalism doesnt exist/its a phalacy, even Clement Manyathela is pushing a particular narrative.
You are not naking sense yourself
How do you deliver a product to a customer/client when it remains in your porsition? Even worse you gladly accept remunaration for storing that product in your premises come on we are no fulls.😅
@bonginkosimyaka6223 here's some free "sense" for you, this is how GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT works.
1. Government opens an RFQ (request for quotation) from suitable suppliers.
2. They select the preferred supplier.
3. Supplier supplies goods, now this is where GOVERNMENT accepts and takes possession of goods.
4. Government has a responsibility to sign off on the goods against the FRQ and supplier is paid.
5. Normally the goods "delivery" address is stated clearly in the RFQ. If the government department wanted the goods to be delivered to various/different addresses then they should've made that clear.
Now that you've been given a free lesson. Do you understand that it's NOT the suppliers responsibility to FORCE government to take the goods from them? The RFQ was for the supply of good and goods were delivered to government.
If the government fails to take their goods then it's NOT the supplier's fault. Supplier has every right to charge for storage. So THERE IS SENSE RIGHT there...go figure.
Where Pule and company should account is concerning up-front payment and how Pule suddenly removed himself from the company directorship/ownership. That's were there are possible irregularities not that government has not taken possession of the goods they procured from a supplier. In fact the supply company has every right to take government to court.
Please argue from FACTS not from emotions.
@MCBManana does your explaination dispute the fact that coruption happened in that business transaction? Secondly pule had an opportunity to clarify this whole thing during that interview but he didn't. 1 thing we will not do is to fold our arms and keep quiet when the tax payers money gets waisted on wrongfully awarded tenders as well as all sorts of irregular expenditures. Lastly if being concerned about coruption and it's negative inpact amounts to being emotional in your wurld than we will gladly accept that and scream as loud as we can when we can smell coruption.
clement tried to accommodate Pules arrogance and ignorance. IN COURT ITS GONNA B A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME, THE QUESTION ASKED IS THE ONE ANSWERED.....THE REST OF HIS NARRATIVE HE CAN TAKE AND GO FLY AVIATOR
I-Court izomthela induku! Those judges are not playing!
@@MoCreaTV Very true
Pule and Julius are all on same whats app dodgy group.
This man is making a clown out of himself 😂😂😂🚮
I totally agree!😂😂😂
Pule talks too much he will regret this PR exercise he is doing, he is out on bail and talks as though he is in Lithuli house.You can imagine for two years you invoice the department and still you don't know the delivery address,😅😅😅 Pule undermine Clement by accepting the invite 😅
Yep! The decision he regretted later!😂
Sweats under the collar guilty gesture this boy is guilty
Literally!😂🤣🤣🤣🤣💦
The ANC today. This man was once a spoke person of the ANC. You are doing business with your wife, who's a director in a company that you owned. Yo, yo, yo, voting for such nonsensical leaders to lead us. Slowly he's becoming emotional, he's literally not a good liar, and the journalist is well trained. This man must be arrested asp.
Imagine that!😂😂😂🤣🤣
He's out on bail
Why is the third party involved.
There should have gone to the dealer direct and avoid all this nonsense.
Can afriforum step in in case the NPA withdraw the case?
Yess!😂😂😂😂🤣🤣💦
NPA will never withdraw bcos they are brothers to ANC. They are going to stay in there to cover up this nonsense.
This guy is taking us all to be stupid.🤔. This guy is so guilty you cannot believe. Damn people money guy.
Shame on you and your family and friends.🙏✌️
We're really taken for a ride here, I tell you!
There's so much I wanna say I don't know how to put it, so let me just say this. Great video👍🇿🇦
Wow! Duncan! Thank you very much man!🙏
Something smelling fishy.Hes not going to win this one.
I don't think so too!
Township is still my home. And I wonder,if my black brothers got the helm around 1984 how will this country be,especially when one witnesses this kind of reckless leaders.
Most critical questions here needed to be responded to by the department. You the guy who always interject this video I'm glad that you are not a prosecutor otherwise you would be a bad one , you don't listen carefully and you are mostly driven by excitement.
Pule Mabe khuluma kakhulu banjiwe manje..
Akana-chance!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆The guy is clarifying a lot of stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣he is tripping in his own lies. Phezkwakhe Clement😆😆😆😆🤣
Clement is not giving him a breather!🤣🤣🤣💦
Pule mabe regret doing interview 😅😅😅😅😅
Big time!🤣🤣🤣
no one is safe under ramaphosa even those in his own camp!
True that! I think it's GNU, because Threw him to the dogs! They asked him step down as an ANC-NEC
Good journalism would have started the interview first by interrogating the procurement process and why Enviromobi was favoured over others without prior experience. T&C of the contract. If there was any deviation, was it approved and by who? Delivery and taking ownership of stock should have been stipulated in the contract. If the above is in order, Pule is not corrupt
You are understanding it my way. So many issues seem to me pule is logically correct. There is no way a department could not want cars to be delivered for 2 years. Interesting case
I'm here, I am not Jan van rebiek. Why can't he just stand up and leave, embarrassing and incriminating yourself like this publicy. If I was his lawyer, I would recuse myself and tell him to represent himself rather tarnish my reputation as a lawyer.
That got me!😂😂😂🤣🤣💦
When someone start saying i think🎉
Exactly!🤣🤣🤣💦
He incrimenated himself .
Exactly!😂
Those that have paid for the cars they themselves have to give clarity for paying something that they delayed to collect. What was the reason?
True that! But Pule should have found out what was the reason rather than beating about the bush, which made the whole thing suspicious and smells of corruption!...
@MoCreaTV to me and how I listened Pule said it many times to clement that he can not answer or speak on behalf or for the department and to me that was fair .
@@NicholusCwebi Pule says he can't speak for Department and you believe that?I buy a car from you and I don't collect it and you don't ask questions as why am I not fetching my car, and that is fair to you?🤷♂ Hayi Bo! Nic!... Kahle Ndoda!
More than 20 companies under Pules hous roof.
Yoh! That's insane!
My goodness 27m,this cancer of corruption in the anc is really out hands n black people r suffering,yah no this one needs Godly intervention
Atlleast if he said that I played my role because the vehicles were procured, invoices are available then the rest I can't say a word unless the department has knowledge as to where they'll found their goods.
That's brilliant man! That's exactly what he should have said!
What was the chief justice źondo doing.
He was told to deal with Zuma only.
Arrogance corruption lies and trying to fool viewers , that man must understand he can't fool ALL the people ALL the time
So true! People are not stupid!...
I thought Pule is wise. How do you go public while your case is in court. Foolish move indeed. I understand why you were removed as spokesman of the ANC and the reason you supported Zweli Mkhize. Your responsebilty is to account and clear your name in court not to convinced the public.
I totally agree! That was a wrong move in anyway you look at it!
How wouldn't you notice yet u claim to come prepared for such mxm
The next one will be the president of SA and most wanted once on the podcast of Mr. De Beer. And Chris Sundays updates
Ziyabuya!🤣🤣🤣💦
Politicians will always be, wont take responsibility
Ah this one he's going to jail 😂
Yah! This one will lose this case! Too much loose ends!😂
This one is going to jail😂
😮😮pule are you listening you'r self ANC yoo""
This Pule guy shouldn't have attended this interview!...
Wasn't he an ANC spokes person. How did he get involved with tenders. Corruption yhooo🤔
Exactly! 😂He is ANC former spokesperson!🤣
Let's hear the other side of the matter, then we can can tell you whether Pule might or might not win this case.
But he still doesn't make sense on his own! There is nothing new the other party can bring!
Guys plz this is common in SA ""paying for goods and leave""" just like Phalax2 story
Delivery does not take place by possession of something in law of contract. There is what they short hand delivery. I'm no sure of all fact as to whether there was corruption or not but that department was made aware and viewed the cars that may constitute delivery
Department should explain why never collected the vehicles as per their order. Kudlalwa ngo Pule la. We all pay the storage fee 😅
When i look at the picture I thought Pule Mabe is Balthazar they look alike😅
😂😂😂
Pule mabe is making things worse for him on this case 😅
Yep! He shouldn't have come for this interview!
Mabe u were Told u will be in big Problems
...and he he is in trouble ngempela ke manje!
Plz help us about taxi at Bronkhorstspruit of patrolling old people are suffering plz assist
So, The Government Dept. gives you R6M to keep those vehicles for 2yrs, and immediately after, you send your wife R4.5M that you can't explain what was it for?🤷♂Wow!... Pule!✨
I like your channel brother
Thank you very much!🙏
Very vague 😂😊
Absolutely!😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂Ziyakhala
Vikkels Mabe more likely Jackals Mabe.
Exactly!😂🤣💦
Kwaphelu kwazi😂😂🚮
Kwaphelukwazi ngempela hey!😅
I ANC ingcolile shame, ayinazwelo sihlupheka nemindeni yethu kodwa bona benza lento
Pule is not the anc and wasn't send by the anc. The case involves him and his wife. As anc members we never mandated him to do that.
What is a.....VAAAIKIL.....
How come he was able to do business with the government?
You casay that again!
@@ndwekazim4881 remember he was not in government he was eyeing to be an MP but he thought of looting before he became an honorable
Who is supposed to do business with government
I think you are just obsessed with pule. How does it concern me if I sold something and you don't come to collect it? It's also a business as I'll charge you for storage.
This is crazy analysis - you can do better and not be bias.
Bra Bheks! What do you think of Pule? Do you think he's innocent? What is your analysis?