Lanchester's Laws: The Maths of War

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  • Lanchester's Laws can be used to calculate the relative strength of opposing military forces to predict which side will win in a battle. Featuring Tom Rocks Maths intern Dan Hunt.
    Lanchester's Linear Law (part 1) looks at the situation when combat takes place with a fixed front line - for example with troops advancing through a valley. This is perhaps most relevant to historic battles between infantry.
    Lanchester's Square Law (part 2) develops the model further to include the situation where all soldiers are able to fight at once. This was developed by Frederick Lanchester during World War 1 where ranged rifle combat became the norm, but can just as easily be applied to archers as shown in the video.
    Produced by Dan Hunt with assistance from Dr Tom Crawford at the University of Oxford.
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  • @TomRocksMaths
    @TomRocksMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm sure you'll all agree that Dan really nailed this one! Check out the other videos produced by TRM interns on the 'Mathstars' playlist here: th-cam.com/video/jceythNWBWE/w-d-xo.html

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I used to have a copy of the US Army modelling equations, and, when I ran simulations of known guerrilla actions, and it quickly became clear why they lost so badly in Vietnam and elsewhere, as local knowledge, popular support and, crucially, surprise can each make between 2-3 times difference.

    • @TomRocksMaths
      @TomRocksMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely. Insurgence type warfare is very very different to the traditional 'battle'.

    • @ddddd9665
      @ddddd9665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The U.S won every major tactical engagement in Vietnam. They lost because the enemy because the enemy never gave up and the war became too costly.

    • @thalesfm
      @thalesfm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ddddd9665 I guess the Tet Offensive doesn't count as a "major tactical engagement" then

    • @IhategoogleGoogleHurtedMe
      @IhategoogleGoogleHurtedMe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro Vietnamese they dug underground didn't they?

  • @jinjunliu2401
    @jinjunliu2401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really enjoyed this one and the choice of background music for the desert battle was very nice as well :D

  • @ADHD기원
    @ADHD기원 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As an amateur mathematician (B.S.) and an Army officer, these kinds of models won't really be effective at a small tactical level such as in the examples because of time for planning and all the reasons you mentioned. However, on a large scale STRATEGIC level I can definitely see them being useful for the Generals planning entire campaigns. Especially if they managed to replace some or all of the assumptions with empirically demonstrated facts.
    Edit: side note: the tactical rule of thumb is to not engage unless necessary if we do not have 3:1 strength.

  • @brett2themax
    @brett2themax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ive been watching a lot of Starcraft II videos and this just makes me want to figure out exactly how effective armies are against eachother on paper because there is SO much data available on each unit to refine this more.

  • @GuruPrasad-qu4vg
    @GuruPrasad-qu4vg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lanchester is so underrated!!!!
    He's made some lovely sketches of vortex filaments behind finite wing
    The lifting line theory should really be called Prandtl Lanchester theory
    Anyway I'm rambling
    Love from India!

    • @TomRocksMaths
      @TomRocksMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome - I didn't know this, I'll check it out :)

  • @lindy_4002
    @lindy_4002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Aghh !! if only Leonidas did his maths homework...

    • @tuneboyz5634
      @tuneboyz5634 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆

    • @mikip3242
      @mikip3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In fact Leonidas did the best math work here. By making combat on the narrow pass of the Thermopylae he effectively switched the combat scenario from a square one to a linear one, and thus the number of enemies was not so important as before. He was defeated but they did an inmense amount of damage to the Persian army. Persia won because they pushed numbers to a crazy amount, but lots of lives were lost compared to the wins.

  • @gtziavelis
    @gtziavelis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    R.I.P. General Reddington, and congratulations to General Blueington.

    • @TomRocksMaths
      @TomRocksMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second your sentiments, although I believe it was General Blueford?

  • @thomazo.2928
    @thomazo.2928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice! Reminds me of War and Peace, 3rd section of Book IV, chapter II, where Tolstoi goes on a about Newton's second law applied to the force of an army, and the often crucial variable of morale (among other concepts spread across the book).

  • @evanbasnaw
    @evanbasnaw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You see good application of this in wargarmes like Starcraft II. Phoenix battles especially, Even with the best engagement, having 8 units versus 9 units is a completely one-sided battle and ends with one person having 7 units to 0 remaining if you engage.

  • @noamyakar8554
    @noamyakar8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is now my favorite video!

  • @skyscraperfan
    @skyscraperfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The definition of "effectiveness" seems to imply that it is quite random who wins, but the chances still grow proportional to the effectiveness. That would be the case for example if both sides shoot with arches and each side has a certain chance to hit the goal.
    In most real world sports being only slightly better in what you do would make you almost always win a one-on-one. For example if your arms are slightly stronger than your opponent's arms, you would always win in arm wrestling against him. In that case the 20% stronger guys could be outnumbered 10 to 1 and still would eliminate all of their opponents.
    So it makes sense for one side to find a way to be just a little stronger. For example if your arches fly further than the other's arches, there is a distance from which you can attack them, but they can't fight back. That would make you win against every number of opponents unless they can run faster than you or you run out of arches.

  • @canowow11
    @canowow11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very cool video! nice

  • @danieldavid5769
    @danieldavid5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!!!

  • @Reliquancy
    @Reliquancy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess some stuff like an artillary weapon might need four specially trained people to operate and if they are alive their effectiveness at killing the other army is really high but if one of them dies their effectiveness drops to zero. Or maybe if the other army gets too close.

  • @DrWeselcouch
    @DrWeselcouch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a really great video! I make math videos using the video game Minecraft and this video inspired an idea for a video I can make. Thank you so much! Great job Tom and Dan!

    • @TomRocksMaths
      @TomRocksMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome - send me the link when you do :)

    • @DrWeselcouch
      @DrWeselcouch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TomRocksMaths will do!

  • @effervescent3374
    @effervescent3374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who cares about real life complexities. I'll use this to dominate RTS games xD
    Thanks for the video.

  • @Ea_Nasir_The_Akkadian
    @Ea_Nasir_The_Akkadian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a method to calculate the battle's duration using the Lanchester's model?

  • @particleonazock2246
    @particleonazock2246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The force is relatively strong in this one? DDEEERN.

  • @silvadossantos6803
    @silvadossantos6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It reminds me of "the smaller force is a greater force's spoils" 48 laws of power

  • @silvadossantos6803
    @silvadossantos6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is say that every Napoleon general was a able mathematician.

  • @dadada6192
    @dadada6192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Wesel Couch sent me.

  • @DLZ8888
    @DLZ8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F for Reddington. xDDD

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    in the end the reds always win 🇨🇳🇻🇳