Washington is beautiful. One summer my wife and I drove from Portland to Seattle and I was blown away by the scenery. We stopped in snoqualmie falls and saw the water fall and ate lunch at the dinner from twin peaks. Good times.
A lot of great bands are from Florida because it used to be so inexpensive to live there and you could actually not starve by being in an original band and working small side jobs to exist.
We lived in Kentucky for 2 years, I loved it there, people are respectful to an extent, living is decent, work places is good depending where you go. Kentucky 8/10 for me
To be fair, between 1997 to 1998 TV/VCR combos was top notch technology only to be overthrown by VCR/DVD combos between 1998 to 2008. Every hipster had one, man.
@@michaelhymson8074 admit it California wins the prize for "liberal shithole" of the century. Most taxed state, highest, hosing costs (rent or buy), highest gas prices, biggest homeless population, highest crime rate & opioid overdose numbers in the US. That "progressive liberal" ideology really works huh ?
I was born in California, but was raised in Wyoming, and I have to say, Wyoming is the most peaceful state there is hands down. It may not get all the concerts and events that other states do, but it still feels free.
As an European, it's really interesting to see what you think about your own country. Would love to see an Europe's Countries Tier-List from an american pov too haha
@@muenchhausenmusicI think he’d have something nice to say about countries like Italy and Spain. It’s the Northern European countries he likes to rag on.
@@needfoolthings that's a funny trope and all, but basically every middle to upper class college kid has been backpacking through the rural parts or shopping in cities of Europe.
It's funny having grown up in New York after 9/11 because we had like a 5-10 year period where the rest of the country didn't hate us but I didn't realize that was not the norm. Whenever you go to some really quaint rural place and have a nice chat with a local it's always fun when you get to the point of the conversation where they ask where you're from because when you say New York City they look at you like you said "I was raised in Gomorrah but now I live in Sodom"
My grandparents are from the Catskills, moved to the South and they got called "damn Yankees". I was born in the south and visited NY a bunch of times and enjoyed it. I asked my mom what was it like growing up with northern parents and being raised in the south, and at some point in the conversation she said "when someone tells me they're from NY I'm tempted to tell them I'm sorry for them". I don't get it, really.
I currently live in Rapid City, and while much of South Dakota is basically a wasteland, the Black Hills/Badlands region is beautiful and cost of living is still pretty affordable. Also, there's no state income tax, driving is a breeze for most of the year since there's usually not too much traffic hassle, humidity is lower West River, and Midwestern nice is a thing. But I will admit crime is a problem in areas of the state, especially the Indian reservations and parts of Rapid City. Pay often isn't as good due to less available good jobs outside of Rapid City and Sioux Falls, cost of living has been increasing in Sioux Falls and the Hills, and Black Hills hailstorms are nightmare fuel. I'd put the state about in the middle. If you must go anywhere in the state, go to Sioux Falls or the Hills/Badlands area.
The wild thing about Cali is that everybody's perception of it is based off a four square mile section of sf and tiny little Hollywood despite the state being MASSIVE and having more biomes that minecraft with mods.
@@t-bonewrecks290 I don't know about the people running the state but the state itself has robust social services and the occasional surplus stimulus thanks to its insanely high gdp. But yeah right wing people would likely hate the people running ca, obviously.
In all honesty, this is one of my favorite videos Mr. Mckenty has put out in a while… and I always love his stuff. Considering a move atm so is fun to hear his take on different areas. Also gives nostalgia for places I have been.
@@hernandezmarkie7382 whatever a Texan’s opinion is, I automatically assume the exact opposite. Gotta see for myself since yall have terrible taste usually 😅
@@LeDank sad thing is Texans never talk about NM. But every time I was in NM Texas would always come up. To the point I finally ask someone what the deal was and they said it was jealousy
Growing up, I spent a lot of time in West Virginia. Socially, yes, it is pretty depressing and poor. However… the aspect that you’re overlooking is the nature there. Beautiful mountains and places to swim, like the Potomac. Well, actually you might not want to swim in the Potomac. Last time I went it was covered in algae. Anyway, considering the nature, it’s a D tier, not an F.
I think Detroit is legitimately America's music capital. From Motown to Aretha Franklin to the Stooges to Eminem to being the birthplace of techno as well. It's quite a resume.
People talk sh*t about Americans having no clue about world geography, but I as an European was lost for the most part on the shapes and flags. And I tried to learn the US states a couple of times.
I love this I live in Seattle I have gone from transplant to homeless to thriving and watched Seattle change so much since 2008. I feel like I caught the last couple years or Seattle when it had something special. I miss the 2000,s and early 2010s here
Having lived in Kentucky and grown up in Michigan, I'm pleased with your placement of Kentucky relative to Ohio. I miss Lexington. I have some fond memories there.
Sooo happy to hear you talk about Louisville!! Much love here from the promised that yes will at times present you gummo moments if you spend time here!
I live in eastern Washington. One of my first jobs was as a delivery driver. In one day, I would experience desert, snow, rain, 80 degree weather, heavy fog, rolling hills, ancient waterfalls and flood plains, and world famous Mt Rainer off in the distance. I’ve lived here all my life but I couldn’t believe how cool it was. Then I realized, I have hardly been to the famous western region of the state. The politics are annoying as hell but the scenery here is unlike anywhere on Earth.
As someone who was born in West Virginia, I can tell you it's not a good place to find work. However, if you want to disappear from civilization and do pills? Top5.
Born and raised in Morris County NJ. Can confirm that Paterson and Irvington are still terrifying, Newark is slowly but surely on the up trend but still has its kinda sketchy areas
My uncle lives in the suburbs of Portland and when I got out of boot camp I visited him and I drove around and I saw so many older not rusty pickup trucks I was in awe living in minnesota for 8 years and so many rust buckets running around.
I live in SD, i make above 150k and i am considered lower middle class. Average rent for a 3 bedroom apartment is 4000 a month... its beautiful and the weather is perfect but its also been named the most expensive city in the US
New Jersey above new York is absolutely fucking impossible for my brain even to comprehend.rural new York is beautiful while rural new jersey is bottom 5 on the continent
Finn please come to the Tampa Bay Area! You’ll hate Orlando if you visit the gulf coast of Florida. Traffic is much better and we have Busch Gardens which is way more affordable and less crowded than Disney. Also the panhandle is absolutely beautiful if you just want to sit on a beach, eat oysters, and get away from it all. Unfortunately you are correct about the prices. St Pete is my hometown and I can’t believe how expensive and over developed it’s gotten here. The Californians and New Yorkers keep bidding up all the houses and condos to where the locals can’t afford it anymore.
Tysm for defending Jersey you were spot on. Every rich kid in college loves to call it a shit state and act like they're above it all. I've lived in south near philly my whole life and can't really complain. It's a quiet generic suburb and it's mine 😊
As a dude that is originally from California and moved to Cincinnati, then across the river to Northern Kentucky, hearing you shit on Cincy and Ohio and putting Kentucky above just makes me chuckle. Can’t wait to send this to my friends out here just to fuck with em.
Finn namedropping the Florida suburb I live at, hellyeah. Central FL is an incredible place to be for heavy music. Very very expensive though, shit is stressful at times. And people can't drive to save their life
God DAMN! I was born in Cumberland, MD and grew up in West Virginia. Finn has definitely seen the same broken down trailers and poverty I'd see on a daily basis growing up. Southern WV has a small music scene, though, so that's cool...and I mean small, but I'll take it.
I live on the outskirts of Pittsburgh, and I am shocked that you mentioned us, especially positively. That said, Pennsylvania is interesting, for sure. Western PA is pretty comfy, but it can get a little odd in other parts of the state. The rural Trump zones, especially 😂
I agree about Florida. I drive to Tally plenty of occasions, and love the atmosphere, people, and places there. Went to Tampa and St. Petersburg for the first time last month. Very beautiful ocean areas, and the people are interesting to say the least 😅
Natural beauty vs economic opportunity, culture, and quality of life for average income people. Pacific Northwest is my top for beauty, but likely moving away because of all the other reasons.
went to Washington for the first time a few years back. Could not believe the mountains. Was in awe of the beauty. An insanely beautiful state and folks there were ALL nice! stoppped in a mcdonalds in Cle Elum or whatever it's called and asked the lady working there if the ice cream machine was working. She said "of course it is. Why would it not be?" And I knew, right then and there, Washington has its crap together .
I was born and raised in Brooklyn and honestly I agree with you about NY which is why I left for Florida days after turning 18. I will say there are some spots in upstate that are beautiful such as Ithaca and the Adirondacks, but it’s too cold even in the summer at least when it’s not midday. Edit: just got to the Florida part, you have to go to key west if you want to see something truly amazing but it is overpriced. I’d rather live here than anywhere else though despite the price. Broward county, Naples, some areas near Tampa and also the springs are nice too!!
Yes thats the thing. NYC conversations are ALWAYS the same. 99% of the general population hates it but 1% wants that specific setup in a city and there isn't enough room. NYC(Manhattan) is a small area that no where in the world really duplicates it and it only appeals to a very tiny percentage of people.
Yeah, not saying Finn is doing this, but sad to see so many left wing personalities and media figures smear Florida while literally everyone is dying to move there
As someone who grew up in the Rochester NY area, I concur with everything he had to say. Not only is that state a shithole, but they tax it like its the prime state in the disunion.
Wife’s grandfather lived in Buffalo, WV. Talk about fucking poverty. One hour from the closest wal mart, which was the closest grocery store. While right now in Knoxville, TN, I’m a 15 min drive from five different ones in any direction. They lived at the end of a four mile gravel road. Where you stand in their yard and had zero cell service. Not roaming. NO service. Absolute poverty.
Would love to see a part two to this. Definetly going to share this with my friends. I would also love to see you maybe do a tier list of Sports teams. NBA, NHL, or NFL, your choice.
This is awesome because I spent most of last year going all over to obscure places just like Canon Beach. I agree with mostly everything I've heard. I have only been up on the mountain part of Pittsburgh and never to Columbus or Orlando so you got me curious about those. Wawa > Sheetz.
Finn, I'm a lifelong New Jersey resident and property takes, mortgage hikes, etc have basically caused 90% of my Wife & I's friends to move to Florida. Not to mention, an indept Governor, so I must have my home State towards the bottom. On a very side note, if you have ever been here or nearby PA, have you tried Wawa? Like Sheetz but been around longer.
I'm North Dakotan. Cost of living is low. Good paying jobs are plentiful. People are super friendly. Only downside is that it's so far away from any major city and pretty secluded. I totally understand why you'd see it as a "wasteland" at face value tho.
California when making average wages in the urban areas sucks. All of the cost of living and congestion subtracts heavily from the weather and amenities. That said, the best of California is outside of the metros. Sequoias, Redwoods, Mt Shasta, Lost Coast, Sierras is peak and prime California. So if you can work remotely and live near excellent places, CA is prime. Oregon has the advantage of being less populated and cheaper than CA and WA. The provincial attitude is very disappointing. Extra points for Crater Lake, the coast, and the Blue Mountains.
Respect for the Winter Park Florida shout-out! And yes, Miami is a whole different state. All of Florida does not claim that area. The gulf coast has the best beaches, especially south by Naples and Fort Myers. Also St Pete is a great area, pretty much a beachy Winter Park.
The problem with the way everybody views CA, especially when they’ve never lived anywhere in it, is that virtually every person talks about it like LA is the entire state. California is basically 3 different states. It’s like saying Arizona, Utah and Colorado are all the same.
Net migration out of those west coast states (and into places like Tx, Fla, and the deep south) over the last 3 years is staggering. South Dakota never locked you down during Covid, and in ND (lived in the Fargo area) you can still buy a 30 round mag and an AR on the same day. West Virginia is beautiful, affordable, and has a low crime rate despite the poverty. Should just rank cities instead of basing the value of the state on whether or not it has good cities and "culture." After all, the latter is in the eye of the beholder. Fwiw, I've lived in 5 of the states on his tier list, including both "S" tier states. My family is from Cali (Bay area, but I've lived in SoCal too.) Lived in the Tacoma area as well. Enjoyed my time in Ky. Agree about down state NJ being nice, disagree about upstate NY. I really love west coast states outside the cities, but wouldn't live there anymore. My current state, CO, is going the same route for the same reasons. Buccees > every other gas station ever. Will be fun to watch Finn's perspective change as his kid gets older. Mine certainly did. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that those awful flyover states that Finn doesn't like are indeed full, and you should all stay away.
Traveler in the medical field currently in Tacoma WA. Pretty sure 90 percent of the people I meet say they’d rather live on a Starfield wasteland planet then go to Portland.
Fellow Brit here, intrigued where you're originally from and how culturally different is the US really (I imagine a lot, but is it as much as you expected?)
@@alexhampton2802 yes and no, I'm from somerset but my parents moved to Florida (Orlando like a lot of ex pat brits), tbh Cali and Texas does feel more like "real America" than Florida but that could be because there's not the support network of other ex pats around.
As West Virginian, you're not wrong most people I know left or are not living their best lives. I left 8 years ago and theres not any amount of money in the world to get me to move back ever.
@16:05 new jersey will ALWAYS! be S tier for me, my parents moved us out of philadelphia when i was 12 to south new jersey, the absolute best part of the state, to a nice house in a development and it was so much nicer and we didnt even live in a very bad part of philadelphia. i will stay obviously pa is still A tier imo, still have plenty of friends and family i'd say another part of pa people often dont mention but that is actually really excellent is lancaster and chester county i have family that live out in those areas and its so nice.
I would've loved to hear your opinion about NC... I think it's underrated as well. I didn't spend enough time there to know the people from close but the cities are neat and the environment is truly beautiful there. P.S. I'm a European. P.P.S. About Florida you were right.
I'm biased for Oregon cause I grew up there. Southern Oregon to be more accurate (Grants Pass/Medford if you know that area). Absolutely gorgeous outdoors. Hiking, camping, fishing, the coast. If you like the outdoors, Oregon is amazing. You can get lost out there, and that's why I love it.
Yeah… it’s a shame, SF used to be one of my favorite cities in the world. Shame to see what it’s become in the last 10 years (or more). Also, the lack of housing and ridiculous price of living make Cali not an S to me either. I might put it in B. Nevada City, Ca where I live, is one of the coolest towns I’ve ever been though.
The worst thing about Portland is that it isn't really even cheaper than Seattle anymore. My brother recently actually moved back to Seattle because rent was generally the same if not slightly cheaper, depending on what you're looking for obviously. And I can see why, all things being equal, people would rather live in Seattle.
Seattle has way more going on than Portland - better scenery, more things to do, more pop culture history - but the downside is it’s bigger and more crowded.
Happy you put us on the B tier. Florida is not what people think it is. I wouldn’t go to Miami but I’m from the Tampa Bay Area. It’s super nice down here but you are right it’s way too expensive for no reason lol
I spent most of my life in Oregon, and I agree it's not quite S tier, but I'm guessing you don't ski or snowboard cause you failed to mention Mt. Bachelor or Mt. Hood! No mention of Colorado or Utah either, sooooooooo no shredding the gnar gnar for Finn??? Also, as gross as it can be in some areas, everyone needs to experience Portland at least once in their lifetime. For all it's flaws, it does have a pretty incredible food scene! Fun video, I'm glad you only mentioned the states that you have spent significant time in as well. Truly an honest critique, well done good sir.
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good timing. Alex Garland's Civil War movie coming out next month.
this dude grabbed virginia to talk about kentucky like it’s still the 1760s
I'm from NKY towards Cincinnati,got the fukk outta there in 06 when I joined the Army ,The dope in Cincinnati was bad lol
babe wake up new rage bait just dropped
Huh?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA because could potentially diss some people's home states lol
Nothing like waking up and having Papa Finn whip up one of his fresh Tier Lists
always make me fail my morning edge
Next time should be a state tier list about the quality of nu metal contributions
How else do you determine if a state sucks or not?
YES
It would just be the Midwest lol
@@microchrist6122ever heard of a state called California?
Slipknot is from Iowa, somebody has to
Washington is beautiful. One summer my wife and I drove from Portland to Seattle and I was blown away by the scenery. We stopped in snoqualmie falls and saw the water fall and ate lunch at the dinner from twin peaks. Good times.
A lot of great bands are from Florida because it used to be so inexpensive to live there and you could actually not starve by being in an original band and working small side jobs to exist.
Yellowcard, A day to remember, new found glory, less than jake, we the kings, I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton
A lot of death metal.. Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, Obituary to name some@@SconnerStudios
@@SconnerStudios all those Gainesville punk acts like Against Me and uhhh, SKYNYRD
Huh...wonder what happened?
Wanted to move down there from GA
Everywhere is getting more expensive now, and Florida is definitely still underrated.
Says Kentucky isn’t really a shithole, proceeds to tell story about buying coke from a woman with a TV/VCR combo. 😂
yeah, but it's a Rt wing shithole...so he likes it.
We lived in Kentucky for 2 years, I loved it there, people are respectful to an extent, living is decent, work places is good depending where you go. Kentucky 8/10 for me
To be fair, between 1997 to 1998 TV/VCR combos was top notch technology only to be overthrown by VCR/DVD combos between 1998 to 2008. Every hipster had one, man.
@@michaelhymson8074 admit it California wins the prize for "liberal shithole" of the century. Most taxed state, highest, hosing costs (rent or buy), highest gas prices, biggest homeless population, highest crime rate & opioid overdose numbers in the US. That "progressive liberal" ideology really works huh ?
it’s cheap to live here tho
Columbus is shockingly decent.
Climate wise, Washington has everything from rain forest to desert to permafrost. Love it here.
no it isn’t😭😭😭😭
@@vin_fm2354
Welllll I guess it was shockingly decent to visit. That's all I can speak to.
Finn, as a lifelong eastern PA resident I appreciate your love of Sheetz. It is indeed the best gas station.
That's a weird way to spell Wawa
I was gonna ask what Sheetz was lol
Sheetz and Wawa are solid. But Buc-ees is pretty amazing.
*Bucees has entered the chat…
Eastern PA is Wawa territory, traitor
Hudson Valley and Long Island have some of the nicest towns in the country. Upstate New York has the most beautiful east coast landscapes too
Shhhhhh let's keep that a secret
Yeah what was up with “Hudson Valley sucks” ? Also I’ve lived in manhattan forever. Love visiting other cities but no place like Manhattan
@@Andynauga he’s familiar with Poughkeepsie so probably thinks the Hudson valley is just Poughkeepsie and Newburgh
ya awful take hudson valley is absolutely beautiful lol
I was born in California, but was raised in Wyoming, and I have to say, Wyoming is the most peaceful state there is hands down. It may not get all the concerts and events that other states do, but it still feels free.
Jackson is expensive af, but that night sky, worth it.
@markconner5341 ive heard that too. Ive never went to jackson for that reason lol
@@Gr8WhiTe1990 Teton Village is even more insane
As an European, it's really interesting to see what you think about your own country. Would love to see an Europe's Countries Tier-List from an american pov too haha
There is not even a pov because they wouldn't know where to look on a map.
He'd put them all in F except for Great Briatin which would go on C or B 😂
@@muenchhausenmusicI think he’d have something nice to say about countries like Italy and Spain. It’s the Northern European countries he likes to rag on.
But even for us with European Personality Disorder it would be hilarious how bad he would like to put every country in something lower than F tier 😂
@@needfoolthings that's a funny trope and all, but basically every middle to upper class college kid has been backpacking through the rural parts or shopping in cities of Europe.
It's funny having grown up in New York after 9/11 because we had like a 5-10 year period where the rest of the country didn't hate us but I didn't realize that was not the norm. Whenever you go to some really quaint rural place and have a nice chat with a local it's always fun when you get to the point of the conversation where they ask where you're from because when you say New York City they look at you like you said "I was raised in Gomorrah but now I live in Sodom"
NY is great...don't even know what ur talking about. maybe texas is more ur speed.
My grandparents are from the Catskills, moved to the South and they got called "damn Yankees".
I was born in the south and visited NY a bunch of times and enjoyed it.
I asked my mom what was it like growing up with northern parents and being raised in the south, and at some point in the conversation she said "when someone tells me they're from NY I'm tempted to tell them I'm sorry for them". I don't get it, really.
@@michaelhymson8074I think you missed the point of what they said lol
I currently live in Rapid City, and while much of South Dakota is basically a wasteland, the Black Hills/Badlands region is beautiful and cost of living is still pretty affordable. Also, there's no state income tax, driving is a breeze for most of the year since there's usually not too much traffic hassle, humidity is lower West River, and Midwestern nice is a thing. But I will admit crime is a problem in areas of the state, especially the Indian reservations and parts of Rapid City. Pay often isn't as good due to less available good jobs outside of Rapid City and Sioux Falls, cost of living has been increasing in Sioux Falls and the Hills, and Black Hills hailstorms are nightmare fuel. I'd put the state about in the middle. If you must go anywhere in the state, go to Sioux Falls or the Hills/Badlands area.
Pittsburgh native here loved to hear the Philly slander 🤘🏻
The wild thing about Cali is that everybody's perception of it is based off a four square mile section of sf and tiny little Hollywood despite the state being MASSIVE and having more biomes that minecraft with mods.
No it's the people running the state
@@t-bonewrecks290 I don't know about the people running the state but the state itself has robust social services and the occasional surplus stimulus thanks to its insanely high gdp. But yeah right wing people would likely hate the people running ca, obviously.
Horrrible policies and ungodly taxes.
Lol bro, that is so true
Cali is friggin gorgeous.
In all honesty, this is one of my favorite videos Mr. Mckenty has put out in a while… and I always love his stuff. Considering a move atm so is fun to hear his take on different areas. Also gives nostalgia for places I have been.
I there is anyone I do not care about the opinion on the United States' states from, it is Finn. Yet I badly wanted to watch this.
“Bury me beneath New York State. It’s the only place where I feel dead.” - Modern Baseball 2016
Native New Mexican here and I already know where this is going😂
New Mexico is the worst state with the worst people sincerely Texas
@@hernandezmarkie7382 accurate, can confrim 😂
@@hernandezmarkie7382 whatever a Texan’s opinion is, I automatically assume the exact opposite. Gotta see for myself since yall have terrible taste usually 😅
@@LeDank sad thing is Texans never talk about NM. But every time I was in NM Texas would always come up. To the point I finally ask someone what the deal was and they said it was jealousy
@@benjaminwatt2436 and it’s the same situation with Texans’ obsession with Californians. Always a bigger fish.
Thanks for taking it easy on Jersey. Loved growing up there on the shore in a blue collar town as the underdogs
move to south new jersey when i was 12 im 42 and still here i love it.
Growing up, I spent a lot of time in West Virginia. Socially, yes, it is pretty depressing and poor. However… the aspect that you’re overlooking is the nature there. Beautiful mountains and places to swim, like the Potomac. Well, actually you might not want to swim in the Potomac. Last time I went it was covered in algae. Anyway, considering the nature, it’s a D tier, not an F.
I agree with you
I think Detroit is legitimately America's music capital. From Motown to Aretha Franklin to the Stooges to Eminem to being the birthplace of techno as well. It's quite a resume.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Tennessee, being in the music scene
People talk sh*t about Americans having no clue about world geography, but I as an European was lost for the most part on the shapes and flags. And I tried to learn the US states a couple of times.
I love this I live in Seattle I have gone from transplant to homeless to thriving and watched Seattle change so much since 2008. I feel like I caught the last couple years or Seattle when it had something special. I miss the 2000,s and early 2010s here
Should've been there in the 90s. It was a youngster's dream.
I lived, against my will as an Air Force brat, in Grand Forks AFB for two years and will attest to your comment about North Dakota.
Having lived in Kentucky and grown up in Michigan, I'm pleased with your placement of Kentucky relative to Ohio. I miss Lexington. I have some fond memories there.
I grew up in Oceanside, Ca. I agree with your assesment.
West Virginia's cities are crazy, but its really pretty there
Sooo happy to hear you talk about Louisville!! Much love here from the promised that yes will at times present you gummo moments if you spend time here!
I live in eastern Washington. One of my first jobs was as a delivery driver. In one day, I would experience desert, snow, rain, 80 degree weather, heavy fog, rolling hills, ancient waterfalls and flood plains, and world famous Mt Rainer off in the distance. I’ve lived here all my life but I couldn’t believe how cool it was. Then I realized, I have hardly been to the famous western region of the state. The politics are annoying as hell but the scenery here is unlike anywhere on Earth.
Limp Bizkit is the sole reason Florida is the best state.
Agreed
As someone who was born in West Virginia, I can tell you it's not a good place to find work. However, if you want to disappear from civilization and do pills? Top5.
Born and raised in Morris County NJ. Can confirm that Paterson and Irvington are still terrifying, Newark is slowly but surely on the up trend but still has its kinda sketchy areas
My uncle lives in the suburbs of Portland and when I got out of boot camp I visited him and I drove around and I saw so many older not rusty pickup trucks I was in awe living in minnesota for 8 years and so many rust buckets running around.
I live in SD, i make above 150k and i am considered lower middle class. Average rent for a 3 bedroom apartment is 4000 a month... its beautiful and the weather is perfect but its also been named the most expensive city in the US
Oh Christ, I mistook "SD" for "South Dakota"! I thought, "$4,000 a month!!!!????"
New Jersey above new York is absolutely fucking impossible for my brain even to comprehend.rural new York is beautiful while rural new jersey is bottom 5 on the continent
Texas is the Walmart super center and Oklahoma is the Walmart neighborhood market
we got Bucc-ees now so we are moving away from Walmart and shopping at Beaver owned gas stations now
Finn please come to the Tampa Bay Area! You’ll hate Orlando if you visit the gulf coast of Florida. Traffic is much better and we have Busch Gardens which is way more affordable and less crowded than Disney. Also the panhandle is absolutely beautiful if you just want to sit on a beach, eat oysters, and get away from it all. Unfortunately you are correct about the prices. St Pete is my hometown and I can’t believe how expensive and over developed it’s gotten here. The Californians and New Yorkers keep bidding up all the houses and condos to where the locals can’t afford it anymore.
Tysm for defending Jersey you were spot on. Every rich kid in college loves to call it a shit state and act like they're above it all. I've lived in south near philly my whole life and can't really complain. It's a quiet generic suburb and it's mine 😊
lived in nj since i was 12 im 42 still here i love it ive lived in gloucester county and camden county.
Thank you for pronouncing Louisville the correct way. It's never Loo-E-Ville.
Really? You learn sumthin every day. I honestly did not know that.
@@Gee-no We also have a placed called Versailles. We do not pronounce it Ver-sy. We pronounce it Ver-Sales. :D
@@thanatology493 so it's not like the French pronunciation? Interesting.
Try Buffalo now. Its vastly improved. Tons of culture and they have spent a lot to build up downtown.
These were some hot takes, I enjoyed it!
Florida is in a development frenzy and has millions of transplants. Thats why its so expensive.
As a dude that is originally from California and moved to Cincinnati, then across the river to Northern Kentucky, hearing you shit on Cincy and Ohio and putting Kentucky above just makes me chuckle. Can’t wait to send this to my friends out here just to fuck with em.
Finn namedropping the Florida suburb I live at, hellyeah. Central FL is an incredible place to be for heavy music. Very very expensive though, shit is stressful at times. And people can't drive to save their life
Don't fuck with Jersey Finn. We have the BEST hardcore punk music scene.
Jersey unite!
It's a Jersey thing
Hahahaa.
As a NYer, it’s hard to compete with MCR, Thursday, Bouncing Souls, Streetlight, Gaslight, etc, but NY takes the crown for rappers lol
This will be an interesting one
Cali use to be my dream state to live, but nowadays it's Arizona.
Honestly same
I too love being unable to be outside half the year for fear of dying of heatstroke
God DAMN! I was born in Cumberland, MD and grew up in West Virginia. Finn has definitely seen the same broken down trailers and poverty I'd see on a daily basis growing up. Southern WV has a small music scene, though, so that's cool...and I mean small, but I'll take it.
I live on the outskirts of Pittsburgh, and I am shocked that you mentioned us, especially positively. That said, Pennsylvania is interesting, for sure. Western PA is pretty comfy, but it can get a little odd in other parts of the state. The rural Trump zones, especially 😂
Everyone I know who lives in NYC is trying to figure how to move out. Hard disagree about the Hudson Valley though, it’s incredibly beautiful.
There is definitely alot of great places in Upstate NY considering I live here.
I agree about Florida. I drive to Tally plenty of occasions, and love the atmosphere, people, and places there.
Went to Tampa and St. Petersburg for the first time last month. Very beautiful ocean areas, and the people are interesting to say the least 😅
Natural beauty vs economic opportunity, culture, and quality of life for average income people. Pacific Northwest is my top for beauty, but likely moving away because of all the other reasons.
went to Washington for the first time a few years back. Could not believe the mountains. Was in awe of the beauty. An insanely beautiful state and folks there were ALL nice! stoppped in a mcdonalds in Cle Elum or whatever it's called and asked the lady working there if the ice cream machine was working. She said "of course it is. Why would it not be?" And I knew, right then and there, Washington has its crap together .
I was born and raised in Brooklyn and honestly I agree with you about NY which is why I left for Florida days after turning 18. I will say there are some spots in upstate that are beautiful such as Ithaca and the Adirondacks, but it’s too cold even in the summer at least when it’s not midday.
Edit: just got to the Florida part, you have to go to key west if you want to see something truly amazing but it is overpriced. I’d rather live here than anywhere else though despite the price. Broward county, Naples, some areas near Tampa and also the springs are nice too!!
So happy about Pittsburgh getting love. One of the most beautiful skylines in the US
as someone who voluntarily chose to move to NYC, you really have to WANT to live here if you want to move out here
Yes thats the thing. NYC conversations are ALWAYS the same. 99% of the general population hates it but 1% wants that specific setup in a city and there isn't enough room.
NYC(Manhattan) is a small area that no where in the world really duplicates it and it only appeals to a very tiny percentage of people.
With that coke story, I now understand Finn’s dislike for Megadeth
i lived in florida for a few months in '08. gulf coast, bradenton, just south of tampa bay. it was fine.
Yeah, not saying Finn is doing this, but sad to see so many left wing personalities and media figures smear Florida while literally everyone is dying to move there
North Dakota is extremely productive between agriculture and oil.
Minot, Bismarck, Fargo ND had a punk/hardcore scene. Made me who I am.
As someone who grew up in the Rochester NY area, I concur with everything he had to say. Not only is that state a shithole, but they tax it like its the prime state in the disunion.
Wife’s grandfather lived in Buffalo, WV. Talk about fucking poverty. One hour from the closest wal mart, which was the closest grocery store. While right now in Knoxville, TN, I’m a 15 min drive from five different ones in any direction.
They lived at the end of a four mile gravel road. Where you stand in their yard and had zero cell service. Not roaming. NO service. Absolute poverty.
Would love to see a part two to this. Definetly going to share this with my friends. I would also love to see you maybe do a tier list of Sports teams. NBA, NHL, or NFL, your choice.
This is awesome because I spent most of last year going all over to obscure places just like Canon Beach. I agree with mostly everything I've heard. I have only been up on the mountain part of Pittsburgh and never to Columbus or Orlando so you got me curious about those. Wawa > Sheetz.
I like how you left out the entire eastern part of Washington, which is a desert, for anyone who doesn't know. It's literally half the state.
More than half!
Finn, I'm a lifelong New Jersey resident and property takes, mortgage hikes, etc have basically caused 90% of my Wife & I's friends to move to Florida. Not to mention, an indept Governor, so I must have my home State towards the bottom. On a very side note, if you have ever been here or nearby PA, have you tried Wawa? Like Sheetz but been around longer.
Downtown Newark is pretty nice these days. Gentrification hit Newark pretty hard
I lived in Astoria, Oregon for about a year and met some of the nicest, most down to earth people. I miss the Oregon Coast a lot.
I'm North Dakotan. Cost of living is low. Good paying jobs are plentiful. People are super friendly. Only downside is that it's so far away from any major city and pretty secluded. I totally understand why you'd see it as a "wasteland" at face value tho.
California when making average wages in the urban areas sucks. All of the cost of living and congestion subtracts heavily from the weather and amenities. That said, the best of California is outside of the metros. Sequoias, Redwoods, Mt Shasta, Lost Coast, Sierras is peak and prime California. So if you can work remotely and live near excellent places, CA is prime.
Oregon has the advantage of being less populated and cheaper than CA and WA. The provincial attitude is very disappointing.
Extra points for Crater Lake, the coast, and the Blue Mountains.
Mt Shasta beautiful place
Respect for the Winter Park Florida shout-out! And yes, Miami is a whole different state. All of Florida does not claim that area. The gulf coast has the best beaches, especially south by Naples and Fort Myers. Also St Pete is a great area, pretty much a beachy Winter Park.
Hey Finn I'm from France, mainly been to big famous US cities. Love this list. Should I go to Minnesota ? I have a friend who's from there
The problem with the way everybody views CA, especially when they’ve never lived anywhere in it, is that virtually every person talks about it like LA is the entire state. California is basically 3 different states.
It’s like saying Arizona, Utah and Colorado are all the same.
Net migration out of those west coast states (and into places like Tx, Fla, and the deep south) over the last 3 years is staggering. South Dakota never locked you down during Covid, and in ND (lived in the Fargo area) you can still buy a 30 round mag and an AR on the same day. West Virginia is beautiful, affordable, and has a low crime rate despite the poverty. Should just rank cities instead of basing the value of the state on whether or not it has good cities and "culture." After all, the latter is in the eye of the beholder. Fwiw, I've lived in 5 of the states on his tier list, including both "S" tier states. My family is from Cali (Bay area, but I've lived in SoCal too.) Lived in the Tacoma area as well. Enjoyed my time in Ky. Agree about down state NJ being nice, disagree about upstate NY. I really love west coast states outside the cities, but wouldn't live there anymore. My current state, CO, is going the same route for the same reasons. Buccees > every other gas station ever. Will be fun to watch Finn's perspective change as his kid gets older. Mine certainly did. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that those awful flyover states that Finn doesn't like are indeed full, and you should all stay away.
Yinzers represent. Migrate back to Pittsbutgh, Finn, and we'll have a BBQ and talk stereotypes
Traveler in the medical field currently in Tacoma WA. Pretty sure 90 percent of the people I meet say they’d rather live on a Starfield wasteland planet then go to Portland.
As a Brit who lives in Austin who used to live in San Francisco, finns opinion of SF applies to Austin.
Austin is the only city in Texas that sucks…move to dallas
@@benjaminwatt2436 If my mrs's job didn't require it I wouldn't be here.
Fellow Brit here, intrigued where you're originally from and how culturally different is the US really (I imagine a lot, but is it as much as you expected?)
How are SF and Austin comparable?? SF has more crime, more expensive, more liberal, etc
@@alexhampton2802 yes and no, I'm from somerset but my parents moved to Florida (Orlando like a lot of ex pat brits), tbh Cali and Texas does feel more like "real America" than Florida but that could be because there's not the support network of other ex pats around.
As West Virginian, you're not wrong most people I know left or are not living their best lives. I left 8 years ago and theres not any amount of money in the world to get me to move back ever.
@16:05 new jersey will ALWAYS! be S tier for me, my parents moved us out of philadelphia when i was 12 to south new jersey, the absolute best part of the state, to a nice house in a development and it was so much nicer and we didnt even live in a very bad part of philadelphia. i will stay obviously pa is still A tier imo, still have plenty of friends and family i'd say another part of pa people often dont mention but that is actually really excellent is lancaster and chester county i have family that live out in those areas and its so nice.
PA guy here from another shithole (Reading), your assessment is spot on.
I would've loved to hear your opinion about NC... I think it's underrated as well. I didn't spend enough time there to know the people from close but the cities are neat and the environment is truly beautiful there.
P.S. I'm a European.
P.P.S. About Florida you were right.
That's what I tell people that visit oregon. It's one of the most beautiful places, during the summer.
Gotta go hit up Pensacola or Destin. Florida’s gulf coast is beautiful and awesome restaurants
Destin is absolutely beautiful
Ok this one was cool and all but when is Papa Finn gonna drop that Diarrhea Experiences Tierlist?
I moved to Oregon short of 2 years ago. It's nice.
Great state besides far left, drug-filled, homeless-filled Portland
BRUH- Rochesterian here and i thought you would base NY's rating off NYC alone but u literally name my town immediately 😭but sadly agree
I'm biased for Oregon cause I grew up there. Southern Oregon to be more accurate (Grants Pass/Medford if you know that area). Absolutely gorgeous outdoors. Hiking, camping, fishing, the coast. If you like the outdoors, Oregon is amazing. You can get lost out there, and that's why I love it.
Lived in CA my whole life. Admitting one of its most important cities sucks (it does) should immediately take it from S tier (I'd put it C)
Yeah… it’s a shame, SF used to be one of my favorite cities in the world. Shame to see what it’s become in the last 10 years (or more). Also, the lack of housing and ridiculous price of living make Cali not an S to me either. I might put it in B. Nevada City, Ca where I live, is one of the coolest towns I’ve ever been though.
The worst thing about Portland is that it isn't really even cheaper than Seattle anymore. My brother recently actually moved back to Seattle because rent was generally the same if not slightly cheaper, depending on what you're looking for obviously. And I can see why, all things being equal, people would rather live in Seattle.
Seattle has way more going on than Portland - better scenery, more things to do, more pop culture history - but the downside is it’s bigger and more crowded.
I was starving, thanks Finnjamin!
I am mentally preparing for an onslaught of insults for South Carolina. I'll stay subbed no matter how brutal, lol.
Because of my job, I’ve spent at least 2 years living in each of the following states: KS, TX, NE, OH. Personally that’s my order from best to worst.
lmfao im from newark and the whole jersey portion was hilarious to me
As a lifelong WV resident, part of me wants to say “Fuck You!”, but I totally get it. 🤣🥴
I have a love/hate relationship with the west coast. Always wind up back here, though.❤❤
Happy you put us on the B tier. Florida is not what people think it is. I wouldn’t go to Miami but I’m from the Tampa Bay Area. It’s super nice down here but you are right it’s way too expensive for no reason lol
I spent most of my life in Oregon, and I agree it's not quite S tier, but I'm guessing you don't ski or snowboard cause you failed to mention Mt. Bachelor or Mt. Hood! No mention of Colorado or Utah either, sooooooooo no shredding the gnar gnar for Finn??? Also, as gross as it can be in some areas, everyone needs to experience Portland at least once in their lifetime. For all it's flaws, it does have a pretty incredible food scene! Fun video, I'm glad you only mentioned the states that you have spent significant time in as well. Truly an honest critique, well done good sir.
In terms of natural beauty, it's S tier.