I'm so glad to see a man talking about this issue... I see so many male TH-camrs and most of their content is just showing bad women and they don't even say toxic women they are referring to women in general as if its 90% of women doing all these toxic activities...
Assigned female at birth and nonbinary, but before I came to terms with my gender and changed my views, I both loved women (because I'm sexually and romantically attracted to women) and because I was bullied really badly I dealt with horrible malignant internalized misogyny. Women and femmes hate other women and femmes. I'm working every day on it, and I've improved drastically. I've made significant progress, but it's a lifelong process to be honest.
I think guys don't view women as people, but as a deterministic category. They see the generalized gendered hierarchical picture and aren't considering women's humanness. What am I taking about? Not doing stupid shit and having self awareness to be animated not only by basic desires. Guys legitimately think women are amoral, I am not joking
I wish more young people are wise enough to not fall in this pit of hatred and instead learn to make observervations about the contents they feed on. Good video, my guy.
I've known hateful men and there's either the kind with a lot of pain in their past, or the kind that if you talk to them long enough you find out they hate everyone and the only thing they enjoy is causing fear and pain. Thirdly, there's men that don't hate women but just want to be left alone by them, free of drama or pain.
My partner unfortunately passed, and I wanted to love him in the ways he needed to be loved. He had some misogynistic inclinations, but in addition to a mutually abusive marriage who he was seperated from, I found out from his aunt (who had custody of him from a young age) that his mom's partner and other family horrifically abused him in way men joke about. There's nothing funny about boys and men being raped. I tried showing him through my words and my actions that he was capable and worthy of healthy, warm, stable love. That he doesn't have to either be a bad person or with a bad person to be loved. I just hoped during his last days he knew that. If I knew then what I know now he would have still been alive, I would help his aging aunt and uncle take care of him marriage or not because my love could rearrange the universe, I've also had experience caring for dead and dying relatives so taking care of a partner who's disabled by a heart attack stroke on aneurysm is something I wouldn't think twice about. In addition to that if he went back to jail I'd help him get his divorce finalized get confirmed in a church I no longer believe in to be married to him in a way that would make his family proud so I could visit him. I know medium security and supermaxes are very strict, but I don't know a lot about low security prisons but I assume that they are still relatively strict. I wouldn't care, because of the amount of deep unwavering love for him. I'd do anything for him.
Also you are a lucky guy to be able to connect with lots of girls. Apparently many guys are like me, they have a problem with this. It's strange, I always thought I was the exceptional social reject. But I guess there are more like me
Hey Ethan this is the same question i have for some people. I am very glad you joined and got to be apart of the conversation i hosted and I hope you will check out videos once i publish them and would love to hear your opinion on it.
However women feel when listening to Andrew Tate and sneako is exactly how men feel in college universities and watching clips of The View where they just called men useless for 10 minutes straight and no one cared. Or the endless men are trash tiktoks or street confessionals showcasing open and accepted misandry. Men cannot cancel the female Andrew tate equivalents. This I believe contributes to the circular hatred. However if you don't believe women are every bit as hateful towards men as men are to women then then maybe you don't really have the best optics on the cultures intersexual dynamics.
I can concur that there definitely is a section of the female population that contributes to a less than stellar view of the male population through their voicing of their disdain via popular mainstream medias, and it is insightful to consider that to be a contributing factor to why some men may develop a certain dislike towards women. However, I doubt that is the only reason, nor do I think it is the sole or root cause of this proposed hatred towards women. This response also fails to acknowledge the hatred for women that is directed at them by other women as well, not to mention the fact that any negative view that women may have against men are because as men, we have placed ourselves in the position to be hated by women in the first place. Truthfully, it’s a wonder that more women don’t hate men more intensely. Especially when you take into consideration that a lot of women who openly and outwardly “hate men” will still not completely write them off (unless their sexuality allows them to do so). They can still allow men to exist as human beings at the end of the day, whereas a man who hates woman - generally - will view them as subhuman or simply as an object to conquer. The hatred on mens side is disproportionate.
Heres the thing when women talk about men im those types of ways its usally targeted at a spesfic type of man although "men do this men do that" sounds all encompasing its implied that in these discussion spaces they are saying "men who do this, men who do that" because the enviorment is mostly women/people who understand that context. But i also understand what your feeling because the two things can feel the same espically with how content is pushed out, alot of the things (i assume idk lol) your pushed on soical media are like bottom of the barrel bad faith arguments against men which do exist and sometimes those ideas get traction
@@ethanero This is incredibly biased as many men have themselves sworn off women due to horrible treatment and objectification as financial creatures of servitude by women(Mgtow)(Recent studies also showing majority of men not being interested in relationships of any kind as of 2023). Women hold the social microphone and men are like fish, they dont scream when stabbed. This distorts perceptions about the reality of abuse between the sexes. You yourself admitted in this video you hold women highly because you associate their beauty as art and divinity. That compromises your ability to access them as flawed humans same as men. The truth is, many women are hated by men and women because like men many women do horrible things, but unlike men seemingly everyone is uncomfortable holding women accountable. Its alot at play. Media, acedemia, accountability gap, social codemnation, social bias etc.
@@ethaneropart of the reason women are treated as lesser is because for one, their intelligence is more tightly clustered around the average mark. So generally speaking, a lot of the really skilled and inteligent people in society are men. People will deny but this is all factual and based in scientific fact. The other side is that modern women are EXTREMELY disloyal- and the consequences almost always fall on the guy and the damage can vary greatly. Sometimes women simply change their mind about a guy and end up destroying entire families- leaving kids missing their father or mother. Its a known fact that the vast majority of the time, when a split of relationships happen, it will the vast majority of the time be the woman’s choice driving it. As i said in my other comment, its just in womens nature to always think things could be better, and that they should try something else. In the end they just end up hurting themselves and others. So is it any wonder why guys disproportionately feel that way towards women, when of course it will be the dude suffering in such a case- while the woman can easily move on to the next guy to feed on?
@@ha.6215 Just my life experiences with the women I met. Women seem way more visual than men and they're way more outspoken when you don't look the way they like it.
@j.d.s.8132 well, women aren't a hivemind. Everyone is SOMEONES type. You're probably very attractive to many people. If you never believe that though, it doesn't matter.
You’re a great guy for this video. Very brave of you to make this. Please don’t ever let this world corrupt you into hating women.
It has to do with: environment, highschool experience, insecurities, the lack of emotional maturity and other things that I am probably missing
I dont see how thats womens fault
The only man speaking sense nowadays
It's so amazing to see another mam talking about this.
More power to you 💪
Thank you so much I appreciate that
@@ethaneroappreciate me too?
Because they have cooties
You’re right idk why I never considered this, I must rethink my stance
I'm so glad to see a man talking about this issue... I see so many male TH-camrs and most of their content is just showing bad women and they don't even say toxic women they are referring to women in general as if its 90% of women doing all these toxic activities...
Assigned female at birth and nonbinary, but before I came to terms with my gender and changed my views, I both loved women (because I'm sexually and romantically attracted to women) and because I was bullied really badly I dealt with horrible malignant internalized misogyny. Women and femmes hate other women and femmes. I'm working every day on it, and I've improved drastically. I've made significant progress, but it's a lifelong process to be honest.
Oh so you are some confused weirdo 👍
I think guys don't view women as people, but as a deterministic category. They see the generalized gendered hierarchical picture and aren't considering women's humanness. What am I taking about? Not doing stupid shit and having self awareness to be animated not only by basic desires. Guys legitimately think women are amoral, I am not joking
A lot of women are amoral. One in four pregancies are aborted.
I wish more young people are wise enough to not fall in this pit of hatred and instead learn to make observervations about the contents they feed on. Good video, my guy.
I've known hateful men and there's either the kind with a lot of pain in their past, or the kind that if you talk to them long enough you find out they hate everyone and the only thing they enjoy is causing fear and pain. Thirdly, there's men that don't hate women but just want to be left alone by them, free of drama or pain.
My partner unfortunately passed, and I wanted to love him in the ways he needed to be loved. He had some misogynistic inclinations, but in addition to a mutually abusive marriage who he was seperated from, I found out from his aunt (who had custody of him from a young age) that his mom's partner and other family horrifically abused him in way men joke about. There's nothing funny about boys and men being raped. I tried showing him through my words and my actions that he was capable and worthy of healthy, warm, stable love. That he doesn't have to either be a bad person or with a bad person to be loved. I just hoped during his last days he knew that. If I knew then what I know now he would have still been alive, I would help his aging aunt and uncle take care of him marriage or not because my love could rearrange the universe, I've also had experience caring for dead and dying relatives so taking care of a partner who's disabled by a heart attack stroke on aneurysm is something I wouldn't think twice about. In addition to that if he went back to jail I'd help him get his divorce finalized get confirmed in a church I no longer believe in to be married to him in a way that would make his family proud so I could visit him. I know medium security and supermaxes are very strict, but I don't know a lot about low security prisons but I assume that they are still relatively strict. I wouldn't care, because of the amount of deep unwavering love for him. I'd do anything for him.
@@minamesparkletits6714 I hope you didn't think I meant that all men are hateful. I'm sorry you didn't get more time with him. Life is cruel.
Also you are a lucky guy to be able to connect with lots of girls. Apparently many guys are like me, they have a problem with this. It's strange, I always thought I was the exceptional social reject. But I guess there are more like me
Hey Ethan this is the same question i have for some people. I am very glad you joined and got to be apart of the conversation i hosted and I hope you will check out videos once i publish them and would love to hear your opinion on it.
LOOK AT HOW THEY ACT!!!!!!!!
I love the way they act
However women feel when listening to Andrew Tate and sneako is exactly how men feel in college universities and watching clips of The View where they just called men useless for 10 minutes straight and no one cared. Or the endless men are trash tiktoks or street confessionals showcasing open and accepted misandry.
Men cannot cancel the female Andrew tate equivalents. This I believe contributes to the circular hatred. However if you don't believe women are every bit as hateful towards men as men are to women then then maybe you don't really have the best optics on the cultures intersexual dynamics.
I can concur that there definitely is a section of the female population that contributes to a less than stellar view of the male population through their voicing of their disdain via popular mainstream medias, and it is insightful to consider that to be a contributing factor to why some men may develop a certain dislike towards women. However, I doubt that is the only reason, nor do I think it is the sole or root cause of this proposed hatred towards women. This response also fails to acknowledge the hatred for women that is directed at them by other women as well, not to mention the fact that any negative view that women may have against men are because as men, we have placed ourselves in the position to be hated by women in the first place. Truthfully, it’s a wonder that more women don’t hate men more intensely. Especially when you take into consideration that a lot of women who openly and outwardly “hate men” will still not completely write them off (unless their sexuality allows them to do so). They can still allow men to exist as human beings at the end of the day, whereas a man who hates woman - generally - will view them as subhuman or simply as an object to conquer. The hatred on mens side is disproportionate.
Heres the thing when women talk about men im those types of ways its usally targeted at a spesfic type of man although "men do this men do that" sounds all encompasing its implied that in these discussion spaces they are saying "men who do this, men who do that" because the enviorment is mostly women/people who understand that context.
But i also understand what your feeling because the two things can feel the same espically with how content is pushed out, alot of the things (i assume idk lol) your pushed on soical media are like bottom of the barrel bad faith arguments against men which do exist and sometimes those ideas get traction
@@ethanero This is incredibly biased as many men have themselves sworn off women due to horrible treatment and objectification as financial creatures of servitude by women(Mgtow)(Recent studies also showing majority of men not being interested in relationships of any kind as of 2023).
Women hold the social microphone and men are like fish, they dont scream when stabbed. This distorts perceptions about the reality of abuse between the sexes. You yourself admitted in this video you hold women highly because you associate their beauty as art and divinity. That compromises your ability to access them as flawed humans same as men. The truth is, many women are hated by men and women because like men many women do horrible things, but unlike men seemingly everyone is uncomfortable holding women accountable. Its alot at play. Media, acedemia, accountability gap, social codemnation, social bias etc.
@@ethanero based
@@ethaneropart of the reason women are treated as lesser is because for one, their intelligence is more tightly clustered around the average mark. So generally speaking, a lot of the really skilled and inteligent people in society are men. People will deny but this is all factual and based in scientific fact. The other side is that modern women are EXTREMELY disloyal- and the consequences almost always fall on the guy and the damage can vary greatly. Sometimes women simply change their mind about a guy and end up destroying entire families- leaving kids missing their father or mother. Its a known fact that the vast majority of the time, when a split of relationships happen, it will the vast majority of the time be the woman’s choice driving it. As i said in my other comment, its just in womens nature to always think things could be better, and that they should try something else. In the end they just end up hurting themselves and others. So is it any wonder why guys disproportionately feel that way towards women, when of course it will be the dude suffering in such a case- while the woman can easily move on to the next guy to feed on?
You don't jate women.... yet. I'm in my late 30s. Give it time and you'll understand.
Easy: They hated me first.
I'm a woman. I dont even know you, so I don't hate you at all.😊
@@ha.6215 You'd probably hate me if you knew what I look like.
@@j.d.s.8132 lol why? That's a bit odd.
@@ha.6215 Just my life experiences with the women I met.
Women seem way more visual than men and they're way more outspoken when you don't look the way they like it.
@j.d.s.8132 well, women aren't a hivemind. Everyone is SOMEONES type. You're probably very attractive to many people. If you never believe that though, it doesn't matter.