Gogeta's ATK is 900k. His super atk multiplier is 3x, and he further increases his atk during the turn by 1x, so it's 4x for the super (3.6 million) and 2x (1.8 million) for the normals. Vegito, per 12ki, reduces his atk by 20% on the super atk multiplier. So if Vegito does 3 12ki supers in slot 1, his normals for the turn have a (1 + 1 - 3 × 0.2) × 900k multiplier, which is 1.26 million per normal, and similarly, 3.060 million on super.
I feel like your'e being too harsh. They got stats, they have animations, and they have links. Like what more do you need man! Some people are so ungrateful
3 videos in a row with no Mui is pretty crazy mate I understand why you don't like the base (I don't either) but you should really stop trying to get hit and instead just go for a future saga ally on the same turn
What future ally could he bring that wouldn't get clapped by the boss?, Future Gohan gets toasted by even STR base Gogeta, PHY Trunks would get send to hell by the STR Blue Gogeta phase, TEQ Vegito would die to 1 AoE, Both Zamasu in an Super Class team is asking for trouble with the domain 30% extra damage to super class, Super Trunks?
I do wonder if all those friend leads with like, exactly 20 additional and 6 crit or vice versa and with 0 dodge are actually real players, because I feel like, 90% of all friends list units are built like that no matter the unit
@@gito7604 People don't care. 3 dodge doesn't really change anything when you're using items. They're not doing it out of spite or out of hatred of dodge. They simply don't care.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 Hence why I think Truth crying it about every single video as if that's going to change anything is foolish. We should be allowed to mirror our friend lead at this point. It took people a day to code. Surely dokkan can do it aswell.
truth overrates transformed blue vegito heavily. Even if you get him turn 1 50% dodge and 300k defense isn't enough for slot 1 since you dont get any stacks. Post super 1-1.2 million defense and 20% damage reduction isn't enough either if 1m defense + guard isn't enough and that's with each additional super procing
Your way under estimating him he was taking around 13k on post super gogeta supers that do north of 1.7 million if he was at 300k he would be taking a lot more damage even with type advantage
@@superiorkaos in the case i agree he wouldnt the stacks help out alot but we could also assume larger multipliers for atk and def so he is still kinda right
Alright look, I'm not even gonna sugarcoat it. I need that LR Final Form Cooler revist, Big Daddy. Now Ik you said you were gonna do a revisit on Int Ssj4 Goku, but I'd like that bandaid on a little longer, so if you could just be a dear and do Cooler instead?
No he doesn't he can barely stand up to metal cooler core and redzone 1 broly, he gets washed in fusion zamasu, he cannot survive 9th anniversary content
I gate them too cause im a vegito fan but you never see him and hes not THAT impressive that the comfidions are worth, no, hes just strong but never was all that.
@@meachan3196 I've rarely had the same issues that truth has with hp conditions because my units just take a lot more damage. I've seen orange piccolo's hp condition proc more in a week than truth has ever.
35:50 LR Gammas orb misplay! That Gogeta changed the AGL orbs to rainbow is bad, you could have easily reset it and made it not happen, lets see if it becomes a problem later in the video
Just rotate a vegito past turn 5 you had plenty of room to do so and it would transform both via the second condition. A simple way is to run one on rotation and constantly rotate the other and eventually they will meet when both can traansform to vegito and stop wining about hp restrictions. Yes it sucks balls no denying whatsoever but you could easily salvage that situation multiple times
33:35 he is at 70.6% HP and can still transform the second Vegito when the condition is "70% or less". I guess as long as you do not go to the next digit, it is valid? Never knew that.
36:45 my theory is that it only debuffs the % of amount of damage of the normals, so if Gogeta supers you for 3.6 Million raw without any multiplier, but you debuffed it by 50%, it would be minus 450k damage that would remove from the super like 3.150 now, however it's very weird how it works since i remember debuffing multiple time an boss just to it oneshot me anyways so i have no clue if you cant stack debuffs or something.
that's how it work you only reduce % of normal and Bosses SA mostly use Supreme damage or 2.3x multipler so it would've been like Normal - ATK DEBUF *2.3 but for "Raise ATK" case, ATK DEBUFF doesn't really help that much especially Massive Raises who kinda ignore that shit because Gogeta literally goes to his normal state and with another 20% of his normal stat (ATK & DEF debuff capped at 80% cmiiw)
Yea it's very interesting. Attack lowering from a super attack effect is not very effective against supers. When you attack lower from a passive (like Omega) that is very effective against supers
One way that he could get Vegito Blue always is float one blue Goku and Vegeta on turn 4 so when they return in turn 7 your main Goku and Vegeta can fuse.
I meannnn when your characters aren’t all rainbowed with full dodge builds you kinda end up taking damage more often and it’s not a real issue in the tough fights to get below HP
i have the blue lossers at 55% level 10 links just waitng for dupes to come in to give the full dodge. take notes if you have full additionals or crits change it asap and give them the stuff to actually give a chance for your run to live. also not only it will make it easier for other people but also yourselves so you wont have runs they get killed out of slot 1.
I don’t wanna be that guy but just running like that zamasu gowasu support instead of krillin and 18 would’ve got Vegito his secondary condition and they serve essentially the same fucking role 🤔
"You need to build team around him" If you have to use worse unit to make a certain unit better, that is their fault. We cannot blame Omega or Frieza for their restrictions but then pray Vegito. "Compare Vegito restriction to Frieza or Omega is stupid" Doesn't matter, we still have to use like Future Gohan instead of UI Goku, so Vegito performance should've covered that lost for it to be worth it, which it isn't. He still a liability on turn 5, rotation RNG still exists, damage still trash for most of the fight, and the only thing that make him good in base which is turn 1 slot 1 doesn't matter much in this meta, and when it matters (against Cell Max), he's too bad to handle it
It’s so incredibly stupid that condition. Even if his condition now was a free transformation from turn 4 onwards, they still wouldn’t even be a top 10 unit right, barely would be top 15 lol
If they last the early stages, it should be easy to just float em twice, no? Theyd come back on turn 7, guaranteed to transform? Like yeah it isnt that good, but the fact that they can have their intro up for both of their available turns and attack before they get hit means they should do better, right?
Even If vb was turn 1 I don’t think even then he is top 5 at all, he only has 50% dodge and DR with like what 300k def and like 5 million supers (he would not get to stack at all since he is vb turn 1)even normals would fuck him up if he doesn’t dodge yeah his 100% dodge turn is good but it just saves him and not the rotation, I would say he would be top 10 but nowhere near top 5.
@@TomPatrick2000 you're missing the entire point of the unit, they are literally designed to be in slot one as a dodge character, unless they are supered they will be perfectly fine there until they transform
HOW DO YOU NOT RUN UI GOKU ON THE TEAM CHRIST DUDE NO WONDER WHY I BEAT THESE FIRST TRY. Th team is not bad but the obvious omissions of Ui is bothering me.
He's not trying to win he just want to see them in action, he probably think mui would do to much damage and he would tank normal but die if he don't dodge a super, so he wouldn't help with the transformation conditions
Ui Goku would do too much damage and he would avoid every instance of damage which makes getting Vegito harder, and making it easier to win dosent mean easier to showcase the unit and its awful condition.
16:13 so you immediately have access to his 100% dodge duhh And if you ran 2 of them Imagine if you healed back 100% hp A heal would hurt them more than it would help them
At 24:00 it’s not fair to complain that the only reason you win is that you’re rocking the literal best team in the game when you’re simultaneously bitching that you can’t take damage while rocking… the best team in the game. Like, I dislike their condition too but your team building here is so unhinged it’s unreal
@@StarNameKev He is fine on the best team - they clear the hardest content nearly every time as shown (except when others crumble), maybe don’t run 2 of them if you have a serious issue with them lmao
Nah I‘m gonna have to call you out truth: Transformed Vegito blue is not better than Gogeta, for the same exact reason that Broly is not better. Sure he does a lot, but Gogetas protection is just enabling so many teams, you said it yourself
Yall thinking these videos are about finishing the stage is hilarious. He’s literally tryna showcase worse case scenarios and bad situations, and showing how bad the character is in base . Y’all can’t do anything beyond basic thinking
str vegito is better in both base and transformed cause unlike the blues there is bs flaw in either super vegito or base goku and vegeta’s kits, aside from the condition to transform being a little bit harder to get cause of stronger characters, str vegito is objectively better than agl vegito blue
You know what’s funny? They take a senzu bean before fusing. They’re at 100% hp, and they make the unit have 70% hp restriction
oh yeahhh
37:45 you got Gamma 1’s support, Krillin and 18’s support, Vegito’s support, and Vegito’s debuffs. Gogeta was jerked off to the max and back
You didn’t have to say it like that 💀
No @@SkyeonX, he definitely did 😈
And back?
Truthey poo don’t forget that Lr VB’s 18 ki gives all ally’s 50% defense for the turn
Gogeta's ATK is 900k. His super atk multiplier is 3x, and he further increases his atk during the turn by 1x, so it's 4x for the super (3.6 million) and 2x (1.8 million) for the normals. Vegito, per 12ki, reduces his atk by 20% on the super atk multiplier. So if Vegito does 3 12ki supers in slot 1, his normals for the turn have a (1 + 1 - 3 × 0.2) × 900k multiplier, which is 1.26 million per normal, and similarly, 3.060 million on super.
13:14 bros gooning 💀
It’s always such a treat to just finish a video and to have another ready to go lol this is peak content
37:46 it wasn't only Gamma 1's support, but also Vegito's 18 ki support
50% def. support from vegeto Ultra SA
I feel like your'e being too harsh. They got stats, they have animations, and they have links. Like what more do you need man! Some people are so ungrateful
he literally said vegito by himself is top 5 its the fusion condition that sucks and in base they can get cooked
@@teghiewegieBro its sarcasm read my comment first
People also forget that they have a name and are in categories, definitely a unit in dokkan
@@teghiewegiedude even transformed he is not top 5
Nah man he's still number one in my heart
3 videos in a row with no Mui is pretty crazy mate
I understand why you don't like the base (I don't either) but you should really stop trying to get hit and instead just go for a future saga ally on the same turn
Truths elite tier team building💪
Yeah he has the revive and shares 5 links with em in base
What future ally could he bring that wouldn't get clapped by the boss?, Future Gohan gets toasted by even STR base Gogeta, PHY Trunks would get send to hell by the STR Blue Gogeta phase, TEQ Vegito would die to 1 AoE, Both Zamasu in an Super Class team is asking for trouble with the domain 30% extra damage to super class, Super Trunks?
I’m pretty sure he’s actively trying to get vegito out on these videos
@@anstornerteq trunks
12:54 They would’ve dodged the super if you didn’t say anything 💀
They just answered his wish
If their transformation condition was not hot garbage they would had won
And to think I almost bought them with red coins lmao thank god I chose to save for beast or broly
or he could have used beast gohans active to survive the turn and get vegito out next turn
@darkarverna4631 he does not use team protection mechanics on showcase characters
The thumbnail goes hard. Sexiest characters in Dokkan unit 10th anni pulls up with the 7th anni ezas
12:55 Dopamine rush for TEQ LR Fusion Zamasu defenders
zamasu legit takes more tho wtf
37:53 Gamma 1 plus Vegito 50% def buff as well
Vb also atk debuff, which was very useful for that
Daddy truth wit the upload 💪🏾😤
as much as its fun to clown on this unit, i think having every unit maxed out is shooting truth in the foot when trying to get their transformation up
that makes zero sense, if having a character maxed is a detriment then why even make the system in the first place
@@grimgiant3378thank you man SO many people doesn’t get that for some reason
not really im f2p and even then getting their transformation is still a hassle
Don't forget that vegito gives 50% def on 18ki along with gamma 1
Imagen if he started in vegito and his active condition was enemies 50% health or a couple of super attacks.
I do wonder if all those friend leads with like, exactly 20 additional and 6 crit or vice versa and with 0 dodge are actually real players, because I feel like, 90% of all friends list units are built like that no matter the unit
Most likely they aren't built with the no item mentality in mind (which urks why Truth hasn't caught up this yet).
Yeah most are built to beat the events with items. Not alot of people replay the same difficult events as much as truth
@@crowofjudgement4718 yeah but like, 0 doge, I don’t see why, even with items a dodge could save you a run
@@gito7604 People don't care. 3 dodge doesn't really change anything when you're using items. They're not doing it out of spite or out of hatred of dodge. They simply don't care.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 Hence why I think Truth crying it about every single video as if that's going to change anything is foolish.
We should be allowed to mirror our friend lead at this point. It took people a day to code. Surely dokkan can do it aswell.
Not bringing eza mui is such a brain rot move
Vegito is like exodia with how he has a near impossible condition but afterwards it’s just over
This video showcases why i can never understand the people that defended the hell out of this card and acted like it was top 3
LR agl Vegito slot 1 and 9th anni gogeta blue slot 2 is a heavenly duo
you forgot that vegito gives allies defense on super aswell that with gamma 1 support + vegito's debuffs made gogeta comfortably tank
truth overrates transformed blue vegito heavily. Even if you get him turn 1 50% dodge and 300k defense isn't enough for slot 1 since you dont get any stacks. Post super 1-1.2 million defense and 20% damage reduction isn't enough either if 1m defense + guard isn't enough and that's with each additional super procing
Your way under estimating him he was taking around 13k on post super gogeta supers that do north of 1.7 million if he was at 300k he would be taking a lot more damage even with type advantage
@@almostabeast1600 he has support, type advantage and stacked in base mate
@@superiorkaos so you werent includinf his stacks from base in your original post? 👍👍
@@eaforthemoney2451 no because truth said if we got vegito TURN 1 he would be top 5 unit in the game
@@superiorkaos in the case i agree he wouldnt the stacks help out alot but we could also assume larger multipliers for atk and def so he is still kinda right
On the bright side when someone pulls off the Vegito transformation with the Blue Duo they will experience euphoria of the century.
Alright look, I'm not even gonna sugarcoat it. I need that LR Final Form Cooler revist, Big Daddy.
Now Ik you said you were gonna do a revisit on Int Ssj4 Goku, but I'd like that bandaid on a little longer, so if you could just be a dear and do Cooler instead?
Cooler, Cooler, Frieza No Brother.
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He ass
No he doesn't he can barely stand up to metal cooler core and redzone 1 broly, he gets washed in fusion zamasu, he cannot survive 9th anniversary content
As a massive Blue Bros hater I would LOVE to see you make a huge video ranking everyone until them I want to see you put them at 75 so bad lmao
I gate them too cause im a vegito fan but you never see him and hes not THAT impressive that the comfidions are worth, no, hes just strong but never was all that.
Hate”
Just take damage by not using a full rainbow team :3. If ur using a full 55% team, with the best units in the game, you are taking enough damage
Yeah. By getting one shot 100% hp to 0
@@meachan3196 I've rarely had the same issues that truth has with hp conditions because my units just take a lot more damage. I've seen orange piccolo's hp condition proc more in a week than truth has ever.
the unit is flawed if it is worse when maxed out
@@blahbqlhwwnwn It's not the unit that's worse. It's hp conditions that get worse.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 still a flaw
I know he's bad or mid now but still waiting for these LR Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku videos.
33:00 Truth ur speaking out ur ass man these guys take like 500k from phy merged zamazu they arent that guy pal
13:13 today we are in the zoo to see the rare truth bird that makes the buitiful sounds off no guard and damage reduction
35:50 LR Gammas orb misplay! That Gogeta changed the AGL orbs to rainbow is bad, you could have easily reset it and made it not happen, lets see if it becomes a problem later in the video
Daimpossible. Please bring the Z duo to the cell max fight?
Every time truth says it's "difficult to transform", replace it with "I don't know how to play the game"
38:12 Vegito gives super class allies 50% DEF on super
13:00 -13:50 i gotta go to the ER my heart has stop Lmaooo🤣
You should do a rating every unit in the game until you get to this blue Goku and vegeta
Just rotate a vegito past turn 5 you had plenty of room to do so and it would transform both via the second condition. A simple way is to run one on rotation and constantly rotate the other and eventually they will meet when both can traansform to vegito and stop wining about hp restrictions. Yes it sucks balls no denying whatsoever but you could easily salvage that situation multiple times
They’re so good 90% of the time you finish the fight before even needing to transform!
33:35 he is at 70.6% HP and can still transform the second Vegito when the condition is "70% or less". I guess as long as you do not go to the next digit, it is valid? Never knew that.
That's insane
Technically he was at 70.4% HP so i guess the game felt sorry for him lol. Actives don't usually work that way
@@StarNameKev dang i fat fingered a number on the health lol
9:40 Imagine hearing this while truth is using ur lead😭
Vegito also gives 50% support to defense with his 18 key
36:45 my theory is that it only debuffs the % of amount of damage of the normals, so if Gogeta supers you for 3.6 Million raw without any multiplier, but you debuffed it by 50%, it would be minus 450k damage that would remove from the super like 3.150 now, however it's very weird how it works since i remember debuffing multiple time an boss just to it oneshot me anyways so i have no clue if you cant stack debuffs or something.
that's how it work you only reduce % of normal and Bosses SA mostly use Supreme damage or 2.3x multipler so it would've been like Normal - ATK DEBUF *2.3 but for "Raise ATK" case, ATK DEBUFF doesn't really help that much especially Massive Raises who kinda ignore that shit because Gogeta literally goes to his normal state and with another 20% of his normal stat (ATK & DEF debuff capped at 80% cmiiw)
Yea it's very interesting. Attack lowering from a super attack effect is not very effective against supers. When you attack lower from a passive (like Omega) that is very effective against supers
We need a tier list until you get to LR AGL "vegito" Blue
16:21 The guaranteed dodge condition. Come on man you do know.
One way that he could get Vegito Blue always is float one blue Goku and Vegeta on turn 4 so when they return in turn 7 your main Goku and Vegeta can fuse.
I meannnn when your characters aren’t all rainbowed with full dodge builds you kinda end up taking damage more often and it’s not a real issue in the tough fights to get below HP
But then again that also means you die more often lol
13:09 I was laughing so hard that my stomach hurt 😂!
Once Vegito comes out he is still fucking top 5 unit shit is crazy
Gamma 1 he says XD, yes Gamma 1 supported them, but Vegito Supported and debuffed him lol
i have the blue lossers at 55% level 10 links just waitng for dupes to come in to give the full dodge. take notes if you have full additionals or crits change it asap and give them the stuff to actually give a chance for your run to live. also not only it will make it easier for other people but also yourselves so you wont have runs they get killed out of slot 1.
13:14 always the friend, eh.
Even with full dodge built
I don’t wanna be that guy but just running like that zamasu gowasu support instead of krillin and 18 would’ve got Vegito his secondary condition and they serve essentially the same fucking role 🤔
"You need to build team around him"
If you have to use worse unit to make a certain unit better, that is their fault. We cannot blame Omega or Frieza for their restrictions but then pray Vegito.
"Compare Vegito restriction to Frieza or Omega is stupid"
Doesn't matter, we still have to use like Future Gohan instead of UI Goku, so Vegito performance should've covered that lost for it to be worth it, which it isn't.
He still a liability on turn 5, rotation RNG still exists, damage still trash for most of the fight, and the only thing that make him good in base which is turn 1 slot 1 doesn't matter much in this meta, and when it matters (against Cell Max), he's too bad to handle it
The blue bums are cooking with those restrictions 🗣🗣🗣🔥
Truth needs to learn how to read his characters passives lol
Vegeta eats senzu bean in fusion animation. No heal
I've seen enough ....
agl vegeto goku and vegeta are top 10
It’s so incredibly stupid that condition. Even if his condition now was a free transformation from turn 4 onwards, they still wouldn’t even be a top 10 unit right, barely would be top 15 lol
Need this being ranking video until you get to the blue's
37:40. Thats not just the gammas lol. It doesnt even buff him that much bc he stacks in base and he has monster sa effects in blue
Imagine if you have this character at 55% ☠️
Doesn’t really change anything his worst problems are all transformation conditions so yea..
If they last the early stages, it should be easy to just float em twice, no? Theyd come back on turn 7, guaranteed to transform? Like yeah it isnt that good, but the fact that they can have their intro up for both of their available turns and attack before they get hit means they should do better, right?
19:30 If you just killed them, vegeta would revive with 70% HP and you could transform
Even If vb was turn 1 I don’t think even then he is top 5 at all, he only has 50% dodge and DR with like what 300k def and like 5 million supers (he would not get to stack at all since he is vb turn 1)even normals would fuck him up if he doesn’t dodge yeah his 100% dodge turn is good but it just saves him and not the rotation, I would say he would be top 10 but nowhere near top 5.
bro is putting them in slot 2 and wondering why theyre dying
They got him killed in slot one and would get sniped in slot 3
@@TomPatrick2000 you're missing the entire point of the unit, they are literally designed to be in slot one as a dodge character, unless they are supered they will be perfectly fine there until they transform
33:00 you overrate vegito so much 💀 he cant tank a single super attack from a hard boss unless he has type advantage
He has 50% dodge tho ? And like 50% dmg reduction in slot 1 🤨
even a killer whale would put some dodge on them
This breaks my heart...i have only 55% lol.
rank everything till u get to these boys
HOW DO YOU NOT RUN UI GOKU ON THE TEAM CHRIST DUDE NO WONDER WHY I BEAT THESE FIRST TRY. Th team is not bad but the obvious omissions of Ui is bothering me.
He's not trying to win he just want to see them in action, he probably think mui would do to much damage and he would tank normal but die if he don't dodge a super, so he wouldn't help with the transformation conditions
Ui Goku would do too much damage and he would avoid every instance of damage which makes getting Vegito harder, and making it easier to win dosent mean easier to showcase the unit and its awful condition.
You do know the point of the video is not too win and show what the character can do right??
@@fw._.uziv7940 I can find out what the character can do while winning easily
That was not Gemma 1 when gogeta triple super and up he double digit tank normals of gogeta btw you down play gogeta on that 1
PLEASE USE THE TEAM RHOADY GAVE YOU WITHOUT CHANGING IT.
16:13 so you immediately have access to his 100% dodge duhh
And if you ran 2 of them
Imagine if you healed back 100% hp
A heal would hurt them more than it would help them
At 24:00 it’s not fair to complain that the only reason you win is that you’re rocking the literal best team in the game when you’re simultaneously bitching that you can’t take damage while rocking… the best team in the game. Like, I dislike their condition too but your team building here is so unhinged it’s unreal
So don't run the best team in the game? Bring a worse team on purpose?
Also this is a worse team technically. There is no UI Goku lol
@@StarNameKev He is fine on the best team - they clear the hardest content nearly every time as shown (except when others crumble), maybe don’t run 2 of them if you have a serious issue with them lmao
Nah I‘m gonna have to call you out truth: Transformed Vegito blue is not better than Gogeta, for the same exact reason that Broly is not better. Sure he does a lot, but Gogetas protection is just enabling so many teams, you said it yourself
9:45 the genuine disgust
what would be a better condition for them im not trying to hate just asking?
turn 4 start of battle
Yall thinking these videos are about finishing the stage is hilarious. He’s literally tryna showcase worse case scenarios and bad situations, and showing how bad the character is in base . Y’all can’t do anything beyond basic thinking
Even if VB was turn 1 and Gogeta is as he is, Gogeta would still be superior. Don't even try it.
They need an EZA
what should i replace the gammas with if i wanted to try the first team but i dont have the gammas?
UI Goku 🫡
15:08 The misery is fun to watch
bro. put trunks phy in team and it transforms
The GOAT
38:00 Gamma 1 + Vegito DEF Support and Vegitos ATK Debuff 🥸
Not to forget Krillin &18's support^
@@gaminggodxd 👍
transformed blue vegito IS NOT BETTER than gogeta blue💀
Gogeta does way too much to be put below that vegito
transformed vb is not better than gogeta lol
Who said that lmao
@@monksuke4164he said it in the vid when he transformed
or maybe try to take advantage of their turn 7 condition
With what future ally?
@@StarNameKev teq trunks
@@ripper_madness asking for death with that one 💀
@@StarNameKev nah his stacking should let him be able to tank normals
@@ripper_madness what about the super
13:14 daCrowdt
GIVE US LR FINAL FORM COOLER
He transforms at 31:25
but if this unit is bad shouldn’t str vegito be worse bc atleast this has stacking and dodging
How does that even make sense when their stacking does literally nothing
str vegito is better in both base and transformed cause unlike the blues there is bs flaw in either super vegito or base goku and vegeta’s kits, aside from the condition to transform being a little bit harder to get cause of stronger characters, str vegito is objectively better than agl vegito blue
@@grimgiant3378 but they got caught really easily ngl when they dont super additional and they like basically have the same condition ti transform
This is people's goat? 12:58
Yup
i hate this unit because i don't have them
What are gammas and krillen and 18 doing here
Gammas are good 👍
@@StarNameKev yes 100% but teq vb or something else’s needs to take that slot because of the vb condition
@@StarNameKev I actually use teq vegito and teq droids or trunks and I win a ton with it in this fight no items because vb debuffs like crazy
@@TrippZ8 teq droids and Trunks are brave 🫡 thankfully they didn't get supered
@@StarNameKev that’s what gogeta active is for then when your out vegitos debuffs like crazy
Hes using a double lead of a bad character...
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