New York's bizarre bicycle railroads - Boynton Bicycle and PP&CIR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In today's video, we take a look at the bizarre railroads in New York that had a hard time keeping their balance
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For those wondering, my sound proofing involves me throwing a duvet or thick blanket over myself as I record, with my windows shut and fans off to also reduce noise...
In a heatwave with no air-conditioning too, I think I'll just settle with a dip in sound quality
It's fine. I like the videos cuz they are very informative and easy to understand.
You needn't apologise, as I don't have sound, and 'listen' to the subtitles insetad.
@@Trainboyz1. pls stop idolizing v1nce. Hea just a negative person.
If you hadn't said, I wouldn't have noticed. For all I care, you can leave the blanket xD
And all this time we thought he was sipping champagne is a large sound-proof studio, living off the youtube royalties!
This is probably the only steam locomotive that can legitimately claim a Whyte classification with odd numbers in it.
Add to that the Lartigue Monorail (Listowel and Ballybunion Railway) (picture shown very briefly in the early part of the video).
1-3-1s exist.
Edit: it's an 0-3-0
They actually did, the one with two wheels under the cab is classified as an 0-1-2, the vertical boiler loco shown briefly was a 2-1-0, and the one shown when talking about the coaches was an 0-2-0, thus meaning an 0-2-0 did exist, or at the very least a design was made.
@@realcanadian67those are axel counts
@@gerrard1144 no, search it up. I believe it's a monorail. And it wasn't 1-3-1, it was 0-3-0
I would love to see one of these rebuilt as a curiosity and tourist attraction. It probably wouldn't be worth it financially, but it's be one hell of a cool project!
Just imagine if these designs became successful in New York. Goodbye subway, say hello to bicycle railroads.
Or even the boyton elevated metro
Literal oversized hairpins
Lol
That derailment accident of the later example is exactly the kind of thing you would have to worry about with this design.
To think, all this time I wondered what an 0-2-0 would look like if it could exist. A 2-1-0 or 0-1-2 never crossed my mind. 😂
It's most likely like a 0-2-4
Maybe it's a new designation, like (0-4-0)/2
There has been an 0-2-0, in 1878 the Bradford & Foster Brook monorail had it.
Or how about a 0-1-0
@@jordandorsett3106 or 0-1-2
In H. G. Wells' 1908 novel "The War In The Air" he describes monorails where the trains run atop a single rail with no overhead support. Gyroscopes are used to keep the cars upright, but Wells offers no explanation about how this works.
that's been done, search for "Gyro monorail"
I'd like to note that this particular railroad style is underrated when it comes to acknowledgement by the railfanning community in Long Islnad, since a similar system was also built in Patchogue in Long Island, which isn't too far away from my home town.
Wait, where in Patchogue? I've lived on LI for most of my life and had no idea we had a similar railway line basically right in my backyard!
@@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band South shore in Suffolk County.
There is also a gyro train that was a bicyle style train without a guide rail that stayed balanced with the use of a gyro.
This content is quite contradicting to your post about running dry for inspiration 😅 excellent work as always!
Audio didn't worry me as I'm deaf and captioning was accurate.
If anyone modelled these they'd get invites to every Model Railway show in range!
A fascinating video on two rather bizarre systems but you have to give them credit for thinking outside the box.
Well done ToT.
Once again, thanks for using music from one of my favorite games, Cuphead, in the video! I see you used "Forest Follies" and in the Crash at Crush video it was "Inkwell Isle Two". Also the 20th Century Limited joke was pretty funny
I knew of this design, as it featured in a 1952 edition of Model Railroader which I possess, but I didn't know it got as far as being built. You learn something new every daY!
Bicycle locomotives are the funniest locomotives I’ve ever seen.
Seems like a fun idea for a themepark to build.
This idea would work better as a tram/trolley/streetcar replacement I think, it's definitely a short trip vehicle rather than a long haul vehicle.
You just need to electrify it and provide enough units so you don't have to wait longer than 15 minutes for an empty space.
Someone has to say it. Passengers nowadays are quite a bit wider.
Brilliant! This was posted on my Birthday
What an absolutely wild idea.
It is unclear from the diagrams but could a conventional locomotive run on a bicycle track without striking the overhead infrastructure? If the design could be adjusted to allow a regular locomotive to fit on both rails while simultaneously allowing the half size to each occupy a single rail that would take the design to the next level. You could run full size goods shuffling back and forth or a two way half size passenger service...All of this would defeat the point of just running a regular service though?
That's not a bicycle, that's a motorcycle.
now here's an idea: using bicycle trains for passengers on a section of standard gauge track, such as for city transport. smaller, cheaper, more convenient(?) cars on infrastructure that would mostly already be there anyway, which could be taken off the rails relatively quickly when a freight train (or longer distance passenger train) comes through and needs the whole railway.
i know very little about how to plan this kind of thing, is my idea good? at least in theory?
We need to bring this back, and since we have much more advanced tech than what was available at the time this was originally made, we could probably make it even better
I wonder what the radius of curves this locomotive would handle. Looks like it'd be... alright (?) on a straightway, but hills and curves?
Boynton also hoped to extend across Long Island.
You should make a video about the N&W Y6b, the strongest successful steam locomotive ever built, tractive effort being 177,000 pounds
Wow, never heard of this oddity before!
Anybody else think that it isn't a coincidence that all of the wackiest train designs come from a time when cocaine was legal and easy to acquire?
The audio quality is perfectly alright imo. I've heard *so* much worse. Mostly from certain guests on WTYP.
Great work ToT, fascinating design.
If there's just the one driving wheel, I don't see there'd be much traction.
I can imagine myself as the mayor of a major city actually buying into the Bicycle Railroad idea and using it in the same capacity as a subway or elevated railway as a form of mass transit in said city
Blimey that was a long bit o' abandoned track running all the way from the Thames estuary to NY... :P Sorry I could not resist there :D
How would have points worked with the upper guide rail?
You should do a follow up about Elfric Wells Chalmers Kearney and his concept for a tandem/bicycle railroad which was much more advanced than Boynton's, yet also sadly never took off. Actually trying to build a working model of it.
The audio wasn't too bad, It's a difference but not bad!
2 levels of seating in a 15' gap?? There's one reason it didn't sell.
Is it just me or did The audio not change when you removed/modified your sound proofing.
I could bet these are modern kickstarter projects.
Surely it would be unstable????
I like the design, very unique.
I’ve got to be honest, I can’t tell a difference in the audio quality between this video and others
To be honest electrified passenger cars was the design that beat this concept, they were compact enough to be used as trams or streetcars on street level or in tunnels as subways or elevated rails like in New York and Chicago
I feel like they could have done well in the same place that normal bicycles do well, i.e. the narrow streets of old european cities.
Interesting video and locomotives. 🧐
Your sound.... well, sounded fine! By the way, railways still make more money from freight - most passenger trains need subsidising.
Really cool video, where could I find these diagrams of the bicycle rolling stock?
im, not sure i get how it saves any materials tho, since, you need two rails for it, just like a regular train,
so, instead of 1 x 2 on two rails, its 2 x 1 between two
I think they're neat.
Euros melting at anything above 75 degrees fahrenheit, meanwhile in the western, southwestern, and southern parts of the Greatest Nation on Earth, US European-Americans are working outside in hotter weather and calling it just another day! Lol.
I'm just messing with you man, I don't have AC in my house, or even a swampy, so I feel ya!
If you like steam trains and bicycles, New York is the best place to go!
It can fit through alleyways, maybe depending. And if the first steam trains and quite a few more years we might have seen more innovation before switching to standard rail
Bike-rails are good for one thing: Steampunk comics.
I can see why it did not take off.
The wooden supports seem very much a weak point of the system if it would have been adopted to wide use.
It also seems kinda diff to get out incase of emergency
What happened to the locomotive’s?
they had a flair fro crazy stuff back then, it would not get off the ground now ???
Perfect use of Cuphead OST
Why not use this concept in a metro?
wow
What is an upside to a mono rail? They suck. Always have, even the Simpsons made it known.
I see a track suspended above another track. Needing much more than a bed and ties of a normal track. It's stupid to say it took less.
Wait until Elon pitches this as a new mode of transport
well,,,new york *was* new amsterdam at one point
World's worst monorail
Dutch train?
so what the loco is is a 0-1-2 🤣
Monorail more like it
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"0-1-2s aren't real. They can't hurt you"
0-1-2s:
Nahh its a 0-1-1+1 its all in a single line
BICYCLE!
BICYCLE!
BICYCLE!
I want to ride my bicycle!
I’ve seen that image of that engine when I typed cursed locomotives, and while I’m very impressed of the history of this one-of-a-kind engine, it looks like if you split a monorail steam engine and gave them bicycle wheels. Or more like a coffeepot stretched out vertically
I don't know if it would qualify as a "coffeepot" if the boiler isn't on a vertical position, however I do agree on terms of general shape and dimensions
THE most weirdest train I’ve ever seen. Definitely out of the ordinary, imo.
Single wheel💀
True😂
2-1-0 layout!
The primary problem from some further research was the line Boyton took over… was street running for the most part.
It was originally built as basically a connection to allow one of the excursion railroads that served Coney Island to have a second terminal on the Bighton Beach side.
This is how insanely busy Coney Island was, there were five railroads built to carry people there from the edges of the populated areas of Brooklyn, with connections on to New York City, then still separate.
Of the five, only one was abandoned and the other four were bought and evolved to become the four subway lines to Coney.
Now that you made this, I wonder if you can make a video about the Ewing monorail system and the only railroad that uses it: Patiala State Monorail Tramway. I was fascianted by hiw easy it is to make a decent monorail railroad using this system...
The sound is more than OK, don't worry about that.
i can tell you exactly why it failed, in fact it's in your video.. that one where it derailed because the bed sunk. that's it. Train tracks require constant maintance, and Bed Tamping is one of those things, but in a normal train, if the bed is a bit sullen, the train doesn't derail. wood also cracks, the only way to keep this thing cheaper than normal rail is to make the guide track cheaper than an additional ground rail., so they made it out of cheap wood. not really a good material for guiding a train, this would also have to be maintained constantly, , any sort of distortion or wear in the track, or guide, and the train derails,. not a good idea., I think most of the people that this idea was being sold too, realized that it would have too many problems
So it still needed two rails
A true 0-1-1+1 Ground-Wupertalbahn moment
I've heard of narrow gauge railways but this is ridiculous
The train is so narrow you can't even fit an aisle between the seats. On standard gauge they'd be about 4 feet wide max. And building switches would be difficult.
Could you maybe do a video about the mason bogie locomotives?
Bicycle built for 100s
Now I like to see a working model of this unique train
These combine my two favorite transport methods
I want them. I should start a company like that.
Can somebody please draw a streamlined bicycle locomotive pulling the 20th Century Limited?
There is a Welsh[?] steam monorail locomotive that is being restored. th-cam.com/video/QoIsQBCqcV0/w-d-xo.html. Here it is running. th-cam.com/video/kp4vj1rl6c4/w-d-xo.html
I don't think the savings of width were such an issue that this sort of compromise is worth it. Despite working it was more of an over the top solution that was already mostly solved by narrow gauge.
there’s just two visible things leftover from operation: the access road to the station where passengers transferred to the regular railroad and a bit of right of way including a bridge in the park
sort of sounds like an awesome tram for crowded cities... poke em in overhead...
Actually, had no problem with the audio myself.
Mmmm I wonder if people can rebuild these for funsies
Don't let Elon see this. He will make this his new totaly visionary idea, and put a two wheel tesla in a tunnel. ^^
Audio sounds fine, honestly wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out 😅
What about passenger comfort? Was there enough room?
Sound quality is certainly not that bad...
he has 66.6K subs and 66.6K views on this vid rn
I hear that Cuphead music 🙃
Did they have switches?