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2022 Old Town Sportsman PDL - First Time On The Water
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2022
- Here's a quick video of my thoughts on the 2022 Old Town Sportsman 120 PDL while on the water.
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Good job as usual, staying tuned to this review series. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching, Mike
Another great honest review video. I’ve recently purchased the OT pdl 106 and so far I love the quality and design. Watching and supporting your channel from Ontario Canada. Great video.
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Thank you so much for the video! Video helped a lot. I was on the fence about the Sportsman 120 or BigWater 132. Love watching your videos! Looking forward to seeing the mods done!
Thanks for watching the videos, Terrance.
You've sure shipped a bunch of your parts to me for my Sportsman 120 PDL and every one of them has definitely upgraded the usability of my kayak! We've had a super windy spring and a hotter'n'hell summer so I haven't been out on it as much this year but that will change this fall. Take care Nick and as always, best of luck to you!
I hope you’re doing well, Rob.
Thanks Nick. We’re liking the detailed video of the PDL 120. I have in in California. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the kind words, Robert.
I’ve had the 120 PDL for two years and absolutely love it. I use it both for offshore and Inshore. It’s best quality in my opinion is how stable it is. The PDL handles massive tides impressively but like Nick, it’s not the fastest and requires a lot of work. It’s the reason I installed a trolling motor. It’s perfect for lakes/rivers or conditions where you don’t have to drive fast or far.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
I have the PDL 120 and love it. I use it for inshore fishing in Jacksonville, FL and it works great. Thanks for the quality video.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, Ross. How’s the PDL handle the crazy tide changes?
@@NavarreKayakFishing it handles extreme tides without an issue. My first kayak was a paddle Jackson bite. The 120pdl is 1000% easier to use. I may be expending more energy than I would in a salty or big water but the 120 pdl slices against the current.
That’s good to know, Ross.
Love mine and the mods you made make it even better!
It’s a pretty nice kayak. I’m glad the modification are helping.
Thanks for this...I have a 106 PDL coming in for inland lake fishing and creeks. I've been checking the site every day for when you get the pdl drive inserts back up for the 106/120
As of today - I was told the distribution company will be receiving a semi either Friday or Monday with a load of material. They aren’t positive if the order is on it. I’m trying.
Keep em comin Nick, nice video
Thanks, Adam.
Bro tanks for your time and your videos I’ll like them all tanks
Thanks for watching, Salvador.
@@NavarreKayakFishing tanks for posting your videos
Good video Nick and great re review of the kayak🤝🏼. I did notice on my 106 PDL the water issue thing, about being to top heavy where the two front scupper holes are, and how that It will let in water. Also like you point out, If you get your body weight more to the rear of the kayak it helps with that water issue. So that was a awesome tip for the people. Well it's good to see you and your wife out enjoying the water on the yak's 🙂🍻. Until the next one buddy ✌🏼🙂.
That’s the biggest down fall of the 106 in my opinion. Silly problem but not the end of the world.
@@NavarreKayakFishing very true Nick.
Have the Salty and love it. Hit some big lakes with swells and white caps and felt safe. Never been offshore with it living in Colorado but it sure feels like it when the wind gets going
The Salty did pretty good in chop and swells when I had it offshore.
I take my salty into some grizzly chit chasing striped bass all over the New England coast. You can't compete with the salty 120 for the money if you're looking for ocean action.
I have the 106 PDL and really like it for lake fishing (mostly state-managed public waters). If I could start over I might go with the 120 for the extra length. Either the 106 or 120 are both very good lake kayaks. The PDL drive is great.
Ron, the 106PDL is a solid little platform. Perfect for small bodies of water.
Just bought a 120 PDL and waiting for the ice to melt before I take it out. It's my first kayak. I've looked at all the upgrades, boy does it add up. I'll take the kayak out a few times before I start thinking about what I need first.
That’s the best way to do it. Always spend time in the kayak before making changes.
I spent 14years in Destin/Navarre I figured that where the name came from but I wasn't sure. Super rad!! I'm out in AZ now.
The business started as a charter business in Navarre and Navarre Beach.
Good video. Solid kayak.
Thanks for watching, James.
Hay nick I was wondering how different the water level is on the 120 vs the bigwater like around the drain plug and drive opening
I just tested my buddy's new 132 and with the plugs out It was still dry and with the drive up it was just below the edges of the opening but not much very close to letting water in
I noticed at least by pictures it looked like the drive box on the 132 is a lot deeper then the 120 so is the hull depth different or something maybe helping keep water out ?
I am about 6'2" 350 working on that number lol
Thanks for your time
I just got that kayak last month. It’s been great for me inshore( Choctawhatchee Bay and Santa Rosa Sound), but I agree there are probably better options for people focused on going offshore.
Thanks for commenting, Chris. It’s a great kayak for exploring the bays.
I like the rod holder grove for storing a stick pin.
That’s a great idea, Todd.
Have a 2021 Sportsman 120 PDL and a 2020 Topwater 120 PDL. Love the boats. And you’ve peaked my interest with the Hobie Lynx as I’m getting old and looking for an easier car top.
Kevin, if car topping is the only option the Lynx will make life a bit easier!
@@NavarreKayakFishing Yeah, it seems like it would be. Most of the time I transport the 120 PDL in the back of a Nissan Murano with a hitch mounted bed extender and top the other 120 PDL. But at half the weight, the Lynx is in play. Nick, to you every use anchor systems like the Anchor Wizard? What do you think?
I honestly am not a huge fan of stopping. I like to cover water so I’m not the expert on anchoring.
Just got the old town 120 pdl but I have short legs but then I lose deck space if I move my seat forward so I have to lean back and scoot over on my seat to pedal. Should I just move my seat as close as I can and just sacrifice the deck space?
Another solid review. I am actually looking at getting the sportsman 120 pdl for my son. I have the predator and he is always trying to steal it from me when we go out. He does not want to go off shore and mainly goes lake fishing with me.
It’s a pretty solid platform. The Predator kept me spoiled for years!
I fish a 150 Acre lake in my PDL 120 and love it.
I think it’s perfect for fishing similar sized lakes.
Would love an assessment on this (which I own) vs the Lynx (which I think about a lot as I cartop and have some beach to cover in areas)
We should be able to make that happen.
How do you transport more than 1 kayak at once? Is it possible to do without a trailer? You know what can sometimes be better than fishing by yourself? Fishing with a buddy. I've got a 4runner and even 1 pdl is tough to transport. Can 2 be transported without a trailer?
What kind of a trailer do you use to haul your kayaks??
Would you recommend the Big Water for intercoastal fishing here in JAX FL? I’ve been shore fishing and the tide rips through some of these areas. Or do you think a Hobie Outback would be better? Thank you
I would personally take the Bigwater. Mostly based on the torque the PDL drive has. If there’s a ton of grass in the area you plan to pedal through then the Hobie Mirage system would perform better.
Thanks for the review
Trying to get the best choice for me which is going to be only for offshore
What would be the ideal in your opinion
I’d get the Bigwater 132 PDL and call it a day. It will do everything you need it to do.
I just got the same one love it
Jason, which color do you go with?
I got orange I figured it would be more visible so I don't get ran over. Lol
I think the orange looks better anyways.
Nick, would you use the 2 inch back risers if you put the 1 inch in front of the seat on an old town sportsman 106 pdl?
I would. It makes leaning forward/standing much easier. It reduces the recliner feeling making the seat more comfortable.
Great content. Out of the old town pdl which would be good for lake fishing and in the bay saltwater fishing?
I would take the Bigwater PDL. The extra length makes long pedals much easier.
@@NavarreKayakFishing ok thank you 👍🏼
What do you recommend for inshore fishing? Majority of my fishing is done in the tidal creeks of Charleston SC
If you're not going on extremely long pedals the 120 PDL is a great kayak. You will be fighting current though and I would personally take the Bigwater 132 PDL over the 120 due to the speed/efficient hull.
I have a 106 PDL. I live in the city in Boston and I am car topping so I thought that the shorter lighter boat would be better for me. I love the boat that I have, I do a lot of wildlife photography and camping out of the boat and the size has not been a problem. However, I go a long ways in that boat, sometimes 10 miles to reach my campsite which takes 3 hours and is pretty taxing. So I have just one question, is the 120 PDL faster than the 106 PDL and by how much?
It is faster but not enough to make a huge difference. The main difference is how it sits in the water and you will "push" less water. The 120 Salty PDL may be a smarter choice if you only plan to pedal and take photos. Its a very easy pedaling kayak.
I only purchased it for lake fishing... is there something better for lake fishing? I wish it was lighter but I love everything else about it so far.
I think it’s a fantastic kayak for lake fishing.
Nice video thanks for sharing!!!
A little question... What is the pdl???
The PDL is the pedal drive.
@@NavarreKayakFishing
and with a few words what is the difference with the "normal" pedals (bicycle type)??? Thanks
Would you ever consider making a bow mount for trolling motor for the sportsman. I know they are out there I was just curious.
Personally, I’m not a fan of it and think there’s a huge risk in mounting the trolling motor on a kayak that wasn’t designed to have anything mounted on the front of it. We won’t be making an adapter.
Seat riser 2” back and front. Stump Pass in the winter often heavy wave . Sheep heads sea trout are fish in November, now bluefish Spanish Macro, mangrove Snapper.
Would this be a good yak for inshore fishing?
I live in Murrells inlet 15 min south of Myrtle Beach South Carolina. Looking at buying my 1st fishing kayak. Will be fishing exclusively in the tidal creeks of the marsh. Do you have a recommendation, can't afford the expensive Hobies though. Thanks in advance.
The kayak in this video isn’t a terrible option it’s just a big slower the the Bigwater PDL 132 which would be my recommendation.
A little off topic, but my old town pedal drive makes a irritating whirring sound while pedaling. Didn’t do it when it was newer. Have you experienced this or have a fix for it?
It’s more then likely the shaft bearing - it get corroded and starts to make noises in my experience. We have videos taking apart the lower unit but if it’s new I would just use it until there’s a problem and have Old Town warranty. They refuse to sell replacement parts for the drives.
Are you using traps on your pedals? I was thinking of upgrading the pedals on my BW 132 PDL and adding traps to the pedals like I have on my bicycle.
I saw your other comments. Those are just the worlds ugliest crocs.
@@NavarreKayakFishing Have to agree! not a fan of Crocs anyway. I get a skin rash from them.
What Oldtown kayak would you recommend for mostly lake fishing with the occasional offshore use? Maybe going off shore x4 times per year. Cheers
I think the Sportsman 120PDL would I do a great job. It would do fine offshore - it’s not a race anyways. Just a bit slow.
@@NavarreKayakFishing Thanks brother! I hear the 120pdl is about 5mph top speed and the salty around 6-7mph
Top speed isn’t something that I would ever factor into fishing trips. Pedaling at that rate for any distance isn’t maintainable.
I am looking to buy my first kayak and wondering how would this boat would work in a lake full of stumps? I live on lake Fork and would hate to rip the drive system off. Its not just running over stumps, its also getting slammed up and down on submerged stumps as well.
The propellers are quick and easy to change. Lots of people use this system in heavily wooded areas.
@@NavarreKayakFishing Thanks man and love your content, I will be getting one in the next couple of weeks!
Hello, i have the sportsman pdl. Looking to get another one. I am deciding between the autopilot 120 and the big water 132 . What’s your recommendation after testing both? Thanks!
Where do you fish and how many days a week?
I just started kayak fishing with the pdl 120. I fish freshwater only I used to fish ponds from the bank. Id like to fish lakes and rivers. I just don’t know if the autopilot is really worth that 2x price tag . I fish 3 days a week maybe 2-4 hours a trip.
I don’t think the AP is a great option - lots of battery charging. The 120 is a great kayak. The Bigwater will be a bit heavier but it is faster and easier to pedal on the water.
Hey Nick, I found your channel a couple of weeks ago. Love your videos, very professional and informative. I'm looking for my first kayak, and would like to know what you think about the Brooklyn Kayaks PK 13 PDL. It's about the same size as the BigWater, but costs a lot less. Have you ever check one out? I live in south Louisiana, and will be doing mostly marsh fishing, with a little close offshore once in a while. Thanks!
Randy, I’ve never seen a Brooklyn kayak in person. However, I have a buddy who purchase one, received it, took it pedaling once, and instantly returned it to the company. He purchased a used BigWater from us the next day. The pedal system and overall build of the kayak doesn’t compare.
@@NavarreKayakFishing Awesome, thanks for the info, and quick reply. That settles it then, a BigWater it is.
Randy Bruner I own a 106 PDL and I bought my wife a Brooklyn PK11. Both are roughly the same size. The Brooklyn sides are not as high/tall so you sit closer to the water. The seating area is lower too so you’ll sit lower in the kayak when compared to the Old Town. I felt like I was going to hit my knees into my face as I’m 6’-2” tall. It is lighter than the old town which is nice when loading on to the roof of my Ford Expedition. The pedal drive works fine and does what it’s supposed to do. But the gearing sucks. My wife has to pedal a lot more to keep up with my Old Town PDL and it is not as refined as the PDL. I also think it’s not as stable. I can really rock the Old Town side to side and it feels rock solid. The Brooklyn seems way more tipsy. Being able to lift the rudder out is a really nice feature on the Old Town. For a $1,000 less than my Old Town and my wife uses it a lot less than I use my Old Town. It’s a good buy for the casual user. For someone who really wants to go out and use a pedal kayak and fish a lot like I do. I 100% would tell you and anyone to buy the Old Town.
Joe, that’s an awesome reply. Thanks for adding the comment. I’m sure it will help several people.
@@Guspech750 Thanks for the detailed reply Joe. I'm 6' tall and 215 lbs. I'll be ordering my PDL 120 soon.
Opps that is a stripe on you water shoes that I thought looked like traps. I still may try it with traps on new wider pedals.
Do your feet slide off of the pedals?
@@NavarreKayakFishing They do off the stock pedals. When I had my 2018 Predator PDL I switched out to a pair of mtn bike pedals ... those worked well without the traps. I will probably try that again before the traps. The Mtn Bike pedals were just a bit wider and a little 'grippier' that the stock pedals. Current kayak is 2022 BW 132 PDL.
Hahahaha I see you get distracted by the bird making noise 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He tried to throw me off. Almost succeeded.
Would you use it on the great lakes?
If I was going to fish the Great Lakes I would prefer the Bigwater. Faster and handles heavy chop better.
Good review.. sold my 10.6 because it leaked too much water
Was it leaking inside the hull?
@@NavarreKayakFishing yup around the drive and scuppers. I like to stand and fish but it’s to wet for me so I sold it.
Ya, common problem. It’s one of the reasons I would never have the 106PDL
You hate this kayak so much , but it is perfect for me Nic in Lemon Bay down in Englewood Florida for a 76 year old guy . Easy to take photos, $2,700 is not cheap , guy on west coast of Canada on the Pacific Ocean fish Samon, just well
You should start running brim charters bro lol
The charter days are behind me.
@@NavarreKayakFishing I figured as much. Now you can do it for fun again
Exactly.
But will it catch a lizard fish??? 😜
I don’t think it’s ready for that just yet.
I cannot “like” the video due to the absence of PFD 🤷♂️
If you watch the video extremely closely you'll realize I am wearing a PFD. It's around my waist.
What kind of a trailer do you use to haul your kayaks??
I used this for years - th-cam.com/video/OLtZo_DDiBA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the reply.