Thanks so much for providing continuing education for us NFHS umpires. Even though I am in Tennessee and not Georgia we all follow the same rules and I appreciate the time y'all take to make these videos.
That's the beauty of NFHS rules. They help to standardize rules throughout the country, although some states take liberties with application. For example, I know of a state where they have adopted a Mercy Rule different from NFHS. Theirs is 20/3, 15/4, 10/5 instead of just the 10/5. There is a disclaimer on the first page inside the cover of the book that allows this, but some states take too many liberties.
Case play 5 is interesting because we should be with the coach that is checking the Ill or injured player to make sure they don’t talk defense. I would think the assistant coach would cause a charged conference. That almost seems like circumventing the rule just like a coach yelling to the catcher to go talk to the pitcher in order to not get a conference charged.
That question is covered when it is pointed out that if the umpire feels a player is faking an injury so that another coach can talk to a player, the umpire can stop the coach from talking to the other player.
I assume that the pictures they show are of high school teams since this is a discussion of high school rules. So, did anyone else notice the catcher in the picture before the first Case Play was wearing illegal equipment? He was using a skull cap that did not cover the ears. The umpire should require the catcher to obtain legal equipment, and should address the coach since the coach was supposed to have confirmed that his team was legally and properly equipped, but he sent his catcher out with an illegal helmet/face mask combination.
In your breakdown of this rule, you said coach, player or non player. I see no case where you referred to the catcher calling timeout. I see many games where the catcher will call timeout to go out and talk to the pitcher. Is this considered a visit? Catchers will ask for time to step out and call a defensive play.
Isn't a catcher considered a player? The catcher requested time to confer with the pitcher at the mound. Example: BR is put out at first. One out. B2 comes to bat and catcher say, "i have to talk to the pitcher". U1 calls, "time". This isn't a conference? Catchers are allowed to go to the mound anytime the umpire permits? Time stamp: 2:29-2:35
Case Play 8- Please clarify for me. The pitcher and 3B switch in 5th inning. Im assuming was team's 4th or more defensive conference. 5th inning ends.. 6th inning can the 2 players not switch back to their original positions beginning of that inning? Would be between innings so no conference would be needed AND assuming the pitcher was a starter, can re enter 1x as long as hits in same batting order.. Also, does this matter how many defensive conferences have been had in this scenario? IOW, if team had no conferences yet and same scenario, could pitcher re enter as pitcher in 6th inning? Please help me out with this thanks!
You are correct that this was the fourth visit. Rule 3-4-1 PENALTY states "After three charged conferences in a seven inning game, the pitcher shall be removed as pitcher for the remainder of the game." It does not matter if it is a charged conference, or not. Once a pitcher is removed after three conferences have been permitted, the pitcher, by rule, cannot return. The pitcher who was a starter, and had been removed from the game could return to play in the game in another position, but he could not return as pitcher. The number of conferences does matter. Before three conferences have been used, a pitcher may return to pitch once per inning with or without a conference.
I didn't know that the coach could talk to his pitcher during warm ups and not get charged... And the injured player and catcher/pitcher simultaneous meeting is asking for trouble as in said example that followed it
The idea of limiting defensive conferences is to keep the game moving. If the inning hasn't started yet, then they are taking up no time. Keep an eye out, though, because it will become a conference if the coach is not off the field when the time allowed for warm-up pitches runs out. Many teams and coaches ignore the one minute rule bringing their pitchers out late, or taking longer than one minute. It could be ignorance, and it could be gamesmanship. The umpire is the judge. Don't be too quick to judge, but don't let them push you too far, either.
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Thanks so much for providing continuing education for us NFHS umpires. Even though I am in Tennessee and not Georgia we all follow the same rules and I appreciate the time y'all take to make these videos.
Thanks for the comment, participation, and support Mark! It always boosts my energy when I get to hear the support from y'all. Thank you!
That's the beauty of NFHS rules. They help to standardize rules throughout the country, although some states take liberties with application. For example, I know of a state where they have adopted a Mercy Rule different from NFHS. Theirs is 20/3, 15/4, 10/5 instead of just the 10/5. There is a disclaimer on the first page inside the cover of the book that allows this, but some states take too many liberties.
Thanks for going over the rules
Keep up the great work on these videos
Will do my best! Thanks for the support!
Case play 5 is interesting because we should be with the coach that is checking the Ill or injured player to make sure they don’t talk defense. I would think the assistant coach would cause a charged conference. That almost seems like circumventing the rule just like a coach yelling to the catcher to go talk to the pitcher in order to not get a conference charged.
That question is covered when it is pointed out that if the umpire feels a player is faking an injury so that another coach can talk to a player, the umpire can stop the coach from talking to the other player.
I assume that the pictures they show are of high school teams since this is a discussion of high school rules. So, did anyone else notice the catcher in the picture before the first Case Play was wearing illegal equipment? He was using a skull cap that did not cover the ears. The umpire should require the catcher to obtain legal equipment, and should address the coach since the coach was supposed to have confirmed that his team was legally and properly equipped, but he sent his catcher out with an illegal helmet/face mask combination.
I try to use high school pictures but they aren't always readily available. I believe this is a college team. At least I hope so with that helmet!
Thanks, excellent info…HOCO Umpires!
In your breakdown of this rule, you said coach, player or non player. I see no case where you referred to the catcher calling timeout. I see many games where the catcher will call timeout to go out and talk to the pitcher. Is this considered a visit? Catchers will ask for time to step out and call a defensive play.
Catcher going to the mound is not considered a visit
Isn't a catcher considered a player?
The catcher requested time to confer with the pitcher at the mound.
Example:
BR is put out at first. One out.
B2 comes to bat and catcher say, "i have to talk to the pitcher".
U1 calls, "time".
This isn't a conference?
Catchers are allowed to go to the mound anytime the umpire permits?
Time stamp: 2:29-2:35
@@ryanstarks916 player to player conferences are not charged; non-player to player, coach to player are charged
Can a coach use his first two defensive conferences to visit the mound in the same inning and not be required to change pitchers?
Yes! He could use all three in the same inning to the same pitcher during the same at bat!
Case Play 8- Please clarify for me. The pitcher and 3B switch in 5th inning. Im assuming was team's 4th or more defensive conference. 5th inning ends.. 6th inning can the 2 players not switch back to their original positions beginning of that inning? Would be between innings so no conference would be needed AND assuming the pitcher was a starter, can re enter 1x as long as hits in same batting order.. Also, does this matter how many defensive conferences have been had in this scenario? IOW, if team had no conferences yet and same scenario, could pitcher re enter as pitcher in 6th inning? Please help me out with this thanks!
You are correct that this was the fourth visit. Rule 3-4-1 PENALTY states "After three charged conferences in a seven inning game, the pitcher shall be removed as pitcher for the remainder of the game." It does not matter if it is a charged conference, or not. Once a pitcher is removed after three conferences have been permitted, the pitcher, by rule, cannot return. The pitcher who was a starter, and had been removed from the game could return to play in the game in another position, but he could not return as pitcher.
The number of conferences does matter. Before three conferences have been used, a pitcher may return to pitch once per inning with or without a conference.
I didn't know that the coach could talk to his pitcher during warm ups and not get charged... And the injured player and catcher/pitcher simultaneous meeting is asking for trouble as in said example that followed it
Yep! I was surprised by some of this too when going through the review. This is part of the big difference between NFHS rules and OBR.
The idea of limiting defensive conferences is to keep the game moving. If the inning hasn't started yet, then they are taking up no time. Keep an eye out, though, because it will become a conference if the coach is not off the field when the time allowed for warm-up pitches runs out. Many teams and coaches ignore the one minute rule bringing their pitchers out late, or taking longer than one minute. It could be ignorance, and it could be gamesmanship. The umpire is the judge. Don't be too quick to judge, but don't let them push you too far, either.