Absolutely awsome !!! I moved my Assioma Duo power metering pedals to my wife’s spin bike, adjusted geometry and yes !! it works great with Zwift, way better than any smart trainer, no noise, easy to sprint, no damage to the frame or wear to my road bike,,,,, all positive effects... And easy to change the Assioma pedals back and forth between the 2 bikes. Kudos for this solution !!!!!
Cool! I created this exact setup in January 2018 after trying to find a way of using Zwift without a trainer for my road bike or buying an expensive smart trainer. I found a spin bike with a broken crank arm on eBay for £20 ($30), easy fix for $10. Bought the Assioma Uno, cheap Ant + dongle and a cheap heart rate monitor and got it all ruining on my iMac in my living room. I use the Zwift companion app on my iPhone mounted on my handlebars so as to control Zwift on my iMac, works a dream. The biggest issue I had was getting the pedals calibrated with Zwift but I hooked them up to the Wahoo app and did a calibration ride. Glad to see someone else who had the same idea and got it working too :-) Like you I live in a tiny apartment but in London and I also have a very understanding wife!
The understanding wife is the most important part to be successful LOL. Sounds like you got your setup going for pretty cheap! The great thing about spin bikes is that they don't really wear down, so used is a great option if you can find one cheap nearby. Ride on!
@@TwoWheelCruise Great video thanks pal. One thing though, you mention that it is cheap option but at €780 for pedals! ....thats hard to justify. I get the advantage of a spin bike, always there, quiet, cheap but that cost is a killer IMO.
Thanks for this video! I had Zwift for a while and we changed over to the Peloton and i miss Zwift a lot. Good to know there's a way to get back out there.
Thank you. Your video was awesome! Now I know the path to getting information from my Sunny spin bike to indoor cycling apps. Very generous of your time and knowledge.
Cool, even two years after! :) I am spinning instructor and the fixed flying wheel can also be an advantage depending on the technique. But you need to ride it as a track fixed bicycle. Even though your legs will always be moving you can use the momentum of that heavy rotational mass for relaxing the muscles for a couple of seconds as long as you don't let it slow down too much. I would not say that spinning bikes don't generate heat. The flying wheel after a spinning class gets so hot that you can barely touch it. :)
using zwift on a spinning bike as well. Mine has a builtin power meter and cadence sensor. My spinning bike send out the sensor signals using ant+. With an ant+ usb dongle this can be connected to Zwift running on windows. What I am. using now is the North Pole Engineering Cable device that converts ant+ to Bluetooth. Than I use zwift on android. Really happy with this setup.
@@minombreeslos I have a life fitness Ic5. It works with android through my North Pole Engineering CABLE device. It also works with Windows 10 and an Ant+ Bluetooth dongle. The bike does gives 0RPM and 0watts when RPM is below 50, but that is not a real problem for me. An alternative would be to get a cheaper spinning bike and buy for instance the garmin vector 3s power pedals. Another alternative is to spend more money on an Ic6 since it supposedly supports Bluetooth natively and has higher power precision, but for the price difference you can probably get power pedals. Whatever bike you get, make sure it has magnetic resistance and a V belt for low maintenance.
Regarding the resistance pads. They look like felt pads on OG Spinners. Using silicone only spray will lubricate and increase mechanical longevity and still get the higher resistance, without that drive train lock-up at super high resistance. Don't use any petroleum oils on the pads as it will cook and glaze the pads, ruining them. So again, silicone spray without any petroleum. Very much appreciate this video.
I got a spinbike too. Schwin - has a nice bicycle feel to it. I put my garmin cadence and speed sensors on it, and it works well. Is the on-screen speed accurate, I would say yes. But pedalling harder, for example when going up a hill, won't do anything for your online speed, you have to pedal faster. The spinbike I got doesn't use the felt-brake type resistance, but earth magnets -- totally silent - no noise from the friction, as there is none, not to mention no wear, and feels like the resistance on the road (highly recommend the magnet spin bikes). You just have to be honest to yourself and turn up the resistance for the up hills, and down. One thing I found with the spinbike, is when I got back onto the road after indoor winter training, I was able to really spin it out and maintain a much higher speed using a lower gear. The main drawback I'd say would be that you're always in the same gear and thus pretty much stay in the same position for the whole ride. I also changed the seat because the one that came with it just hurt my ass something fierce (wider and softer = pain). I got my spinbike at a local auction -- gyms are constantly either going out of business or overturning their equipment, so you can get a gym quality bike for a couple hundred bucks or less, if you're lucky at the auction ($1200 new).
Thank you for the video. Maybe an update with you actually pulling up a ride on Zwift would be just as helpful. I was wondering if a speed sensor along with a power meter would be more realistic but apparently not really needed. I have several road bikes and have been thinking about Zwift for the winter months. I recently learned how to hook up my old Blackburn Trackstand using a speed sensor. Zwift already had the power conversions for it but then I thought it would be so much more convenient and much less wear and tear if I could use the older spin bike instead. Your video is a godsend. I just had those other questions about a speed sensor because that what I had to get for the road bike. I will be looking into purchasing those power pedals as they were also recommended at another Chanel as well. Peace ✌🏽
11:39 The Assioma Favero power pedals INCLUDE A CADENCE READER TOO???? Thank you so much for mentioning that, that solves an issue I thought I was going to have this summer. In 2018 I bought a Canyon road bike in September and a Wahoo ELEMNT bundle in October - two big expenses - so I decided to enjoy a period of just HR training for a period before spoiling myself with the next (and final) upgrade, power. You totally sold me with your review of the Assioma Favero pedals a few months ago, so I decided I will purchase them around March/April. The main reason I'm sold on pedal based power over crank-based is, as you've mentioned often, you simply swap the pedals onto different bikes and have power on whatever bike you want. When I go to Japan this summer I'm going to bring my set up - soon to be purchased power pedals, Wahoo ELEMNT and all the Wahoo stuff that comes with it (Tickr HRM, Wahoo Speed Sensor). But not the Wahoo Cadence, because it's stuck (glued) onto the crank arm on my Canyon (my US bike) and I didn't want to mess with taking it off to stick on my Allez (my Japan bike). I was going to buy a separate Wahoo Cadence for the Allez, which admittedly is only $40. But now that I know the Favero pedals do cadence, that's one less expense to achieve my perfect setup for this summer. Thanks Cruise, I'm so glad I watched your video to the end! 😂😂😂
Trying to be patient and not spoiling yourself to much is a pretty hard thing to do Haha. But yeah, it's great having both power and cadence together 😁
Ha so funny I have my Japan bike too (Caad 9) and my US bike (Super Six Evo). I didn't realize my Assioma pedals had cadence built in either! One less thing to bring back and forth. This spin bike set up is the best ever, no need for a laptop either if you run Zwift mobile and just cast your phone to a tv.
Regarding getting the flywheel back up to speed at high resistance: It's only really an issue on friction resistance spin bikes. A magnetic resistance spin bike feels closer to that of a road bike.
i have a different spin bike using a cadence sensor and speed sensor and I use zwift. All you need to do is change the settings on Zwift for the wheel size. slightly cheeper way to do the same thing
Definitely a more affordable way to do it, but really inaccurate and takes away from the racing/training options which is one of the main reasons I like ZWIFT
I'm glad to saw this video bro !!! I have my spin bike and want to use zwift, one advice about the sound during the time if you got too loud maybe because the cushion are not very new, you can use oil that you usually use to cook something and add a little in the sides flat wheel using a napkin
One more power meter option - not nearly as accurate, but portable and can be taken to your local fitness center is a HRM based power meter like the PowerTap PowerCal. It's what I use at our local fitness center since I can't remove their pedals or cranks.
I really like the video. I wonder if it is better to get the duo over uno for the power meter, and if it is necessary. I am new to the power training but love the idea to use them on both my road bike and spin bike at home.
Thanks for your video, really shows you don’t need to get caught up with all the fancy electronic gadgetry . I would like to know What sort of feedback you get while using an app, what’s missing if anything?
Thanks for the video. currently new to Zwift and so far I llove it, I am using an IC4. Did you have to increase the resistance a lot the to 200 watts ?
I'll be using the e-motion rollers with ant+ resistance trainer (up to 10% ) and the floating front fork (if I hate rollera) a speed and cadence sensor on my fixed gear bike. I hope it's going to all work together once I get everything.
I dunno how exactly the resistance 'switch' or knob works but maybe you can modify the switch using cheap index or friction shifters. It looks like a brake caliper to me.
Awesome vid! So glad I got the assioma pedals last year based on your rec. Threw them on my Spin brand spin bike last night, and used Google Chromecast to cast Zwift to my tv. I've been able to use equipment I already had and spent zero extra dollars to get set up on Swift! Thanks again!!
Just bought the US version you suggested and the power meter you suggested. What did you set for your crank arm length. It’s not on the crank arm like a normal bike? Ps works great just wanted to make sure it was set up right!
I’m going to go against the grain here and give a few critiques on this video. He mentions sound and price as two of the main reasons to use a spin bike. Sound I definitely understand, but some of the newer models are getting pretty quiet. Price: this rubbed me the wrong way. Let’s start with the 5 bikes I can see in the background. I love my bikes and have quite the stable myself, but if I was really focused on off season training and budget constrained, I think I could part with one bike to buy a smart trainer (or two). How about the set of $650 pedals (more in Japan?) and a $350 desk (no alternatives?!). Those two items alone would by a new high end smart trainer.
Between the spin bike, the $500 pedals, and the $250 Wahoo Desk (wth?!), you're at least in the ball park for what a Kickr Core cost. lol. Which has all the features that make it fully compatible and ready to run on Zwift. Unless you're building an indoor zwift trainer set-up with these parts you already had, getting a dedicated smart trainer already seems to fit the budget. lol
Great video, but I'm still a bit confused as to how this all works with Zwift. For example say in Zwift you come to a hill. If you don't adjust the resistance does the hill get climbed but it's very easy? Do you have to increase the resistance but just "guess" as to how much? Thx!
you end up just putting out the same power, so you will climb the hill very slow. If you're in a group ride, you will likely lose pace, so you'll want to increase resistance or power to adjust.
@@garypaduana62 it takes more power to go up a hill, whether by car, foot, bicycle or any means. In Zwift with power meter pedals you will end up with a slower speed if you don't add more resistance to the spin bike (using more power).
@@kokoyhawaii Yep, that makes sense, and that's what I'm saying as well. If you're putting out 300W on flat, why would you all of a sudden put out 350W going up a hill? Isn't the natural tendency to slow down when going up a hill in real life while continuing to put out the same power and changing gears? So in zwift everyone slows down when taking the hill so it's not actually a problem?
I was looking into indoor cycling and came across your video😊 Some good stuff Liked the video and good tips👍👌 actually i was planning to buy the turbo trainer but as you can tell the coved 19 situation and the prices are going crazy but thankfully Friend of mine gave me spin bike and it was a big help tbh it saved my money and i can exercise dally👍🏡 And yes i agree 7:34 my first experience was close to losing my foot lol Even my wife heart her self And hatred it But its been couple days and naw im use to it Thanks for reading my long A$$ comment😉 Can't for your next video
@@TwoWheelCruise So if myself for example, I am a pretty decent racing bike cyclist but don't really want to set my racer up in the room due to wearing out components? So my question is can I use an exercise bike instead to win categorized races online & basically make a few hundred dollars every once in a while?
How does Zwift calculate the speed from the power meter pedals which do not have a speed sensor? Thank you for this video. I have a spin bike that I want set up similar to your set up with the power meter pedals.
speed is easily calculated by power, weight, virtual bike weight, wind, and virtual course gradient. Speed sensors indoors are not even remotely accurate.
I have a Bowflex C6 coming and was really looking forward to using Zwift. Is it pointless using Zwift without power pedals on a spin bike like the C6? I don't want to waste my time on Zwift if it isn't worth it at all. Any information would be great guys
It depends on your goals and what you wanna use it for. If you just wanna ride zwift, then no it's not useless. If you want accurate data and to race on zwift, then it's best to go with some kind of power meter option.
@@TwoWheelCruise thanks for the quick reply! I am looking to work on fitness, not necessarily races although I would like to some day. If I enjoy it then I will probably invest in some power meters. Thanks 👍
I wish i could buy the things mentioned in this video. But I feel like it is kind of expensive. Since I have a kid, I cannot easily spend on things for myself anymore.
Cool, thank you for the video. I want to use Zwift on my current spin bike , I am not a hardcore bikecycle Rider and cant justify hundreds of dollars on a traditional Zwift set up. Thanks
@@TwoWheelCruise Sorry, just bought a spin bike to keep fit then I see swift on an ad and wished I had waited.then I saw your video about using power pedals which seemed the easiest solution. Being a novice I don't have a out door bike apart from old mountain bike but Just want to use swift.there must be thousands of people like me out there and your video is the only one I've found that helps .a video on setting up swift from scratch with power pedals fitting on spin bike would be brilliant.. Cheers Like I said thousands of people with spin bikes are seeing swift on ads and want to get in on it but can't. Do I need two power pedals or does one work ??
I've been getting a lot of those ads too, and agreed, there's probably a lot of people who don't know what to do. For this setup, it works with the single power pedal option
If you don't already have the power pedals, wouldn't it be a net zero sum to either go this route or a smart trainer? With the exception of having a dedicated bike.
The Uno pedals are only $420, plus a $200~$300 spin bike, and it's still cheaper than the silent smart trainers which start at about $900. Plus you can use the pedals on your normal bike and no wear on the normal bike, so I think it's still a great option even if you don't already have the smart pedals.
Since it wasn’t mentioned, I’ll throw in the fact that spin bikes are easily adjustable for other family members. My wife and daughter use the bike (Schwinn IC4) with the Peloton Digital app and the experience is excellent. No additional equipment required, besides tablet/phone.
So I stumbled across this video because I’m trying to research anything that would allow my stationary bike which is not a spin bike like this that you see in all the videos to be able to run in Zwift or apps like Zwift. I was recently gifted a freemotion 370r and it’s your pretty run of the mill smart bike (I guess you could call it) for today. Every method I have found states for some reason it can not be used with that bike or other exercise bikes similar to it, yet I see no reason why if this method works on a very simple bike why it wouldn’t work for literally any bike? Just wondering if anyone has any information into this
My Tacx trainer broke down two weeks ago, reading the stories from customers about smart trainers is putting me off to buy another smart trainer, IMHO added to all those experiences I read, smart trainers eventually break for one reason or another, and they are not cheap. I am now considering a robust spinning bike to add my sensors. Have you considered adapting a road shift lever to control the resistance? Do you think it will work?
Spin bikes are way more durable and cheaper. I'm fine with using the default resistance wheel, but I guess you could upgrade to a more real-like setup.
Absolutely worth the money for these pedals. One of the most accurate power meter pedals on the market for sure. Insane battery life. Money well spent, no doubt.
Was looking at Pelotons but already owned a Spin bike and found this would be a great solution for me. How exactly does the Assioma's connect to a computer? Is it just via Bluetooth or can you link it through your phone app?
Hi, just installed the Assioma Uno’s on spin bike. They work great, although,after a few rides I feel my watts are under stated in Zwift. Any recommendations on how to correct? Thanks.
The Assioma Uno power meter pedals are pretty dang accurate. I have them set up on my peloton for use on zwift as well and I doubt they are not reading accurately. Maybe try performing the zero offset before your next ride to make sure they are fully calibrated. Other than that, just Ride on and build that strengrh.
Could you please let me know if this is better compared to hr2vp app. Because in hr2vp power sometimes greatly decreases even if I am applying same force
Quick question: In the previous video you had the Assioma DUO in the link description, here you have the UNO. Which do you recommend? Is the Duo worth the price?
Great video thanks - when I cycle on ZWIFT really hard the animation is still very slow - my cheapish spin bike has built in blue tooth connectivity however I have the feeling that regardless of the resistance (power) this isn't being reflected in the app - think its just transmitting cadence? So to confirm my understanding I need a power meter to reflect the different watts in ZWIFT? otherwise I could just spin with no resistance or do I need cadence and heart rate too? Confused on what is needed to reflect my speed in the app correctly.
I would not trust the data pt from a cheap spin bike, it will not be accurate. The best way to connect to zwift is with a dedicated power meter, so either pedals or crank arm attachment for a spin bike.
How do I get the change in resistance to correlate to change in power output? I have a Urevo spin bike (awesome bike) but when I increase resistance this isnt transferred into an increase in power output
One question: the 'smart' trainers will automatically apply more resistance when the gradient increases (right?), how do you manage this with the trainer and the manual brake? are you prompted to do so?
Yes, this is one of the weaknesses I address in the video, but it's not a problem since you can just manually adjust the resistance when you start a climb. There is no prompt for regular riding, but it's pretty obvious when you start climbing. I was able to adapt to it pretty quickly and now the shifting as climbs come up is pretty natural to me
I have a spin bike with manual resistance too... how does this send information to the console and zwift? I can't get above 100-110 Watts no matter what the resistance is which is ridiculously low, but i don't know if it's just because I'm new to cycling or it just can't get accurate power data? Just getting lapped by everybody on zwift
did you have any issues having power connect to zwift? i have a cycleops 300 spin bike and i'm using the favero uno pedals. my power and cadence are connected but only my cadence shows and the avatar does not move.
Recent got a wahoo cadence and speed sensor. I noticed my watts do not go any higher than 400. I’ve done some research and it says it caps it at 400, is there anyway fix this?
@@jbngowda assioma pedals! Two Wheel has some reviews on them, I've been riding them due to his recs. Honestly, having access to my power data has made me a better cyclist, it's a bonus that the pedals can be used with Zwift !
Very nice video, thanks a lot! I saw many comments criticizing the price of the pedals: he obviously already had the pedals, I don’t believe he bought them just for this. There are a few cheaper options in case you don’t have the pedals but still want to hook up the spin bike to Zwift, like installing those small wahoo speed/cadence sensors to the bike with a cable tie, there are a few videos out there showing it, like this one th-cam.com/video/xyUPrT5rvT8/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely awsome !!! I moved my Assioma Duo power metering pedals to my wife’s spin bike, adjusted geometry and yes !! it works great with Zwift, way better than any smart trainer, no noise, easy to sprint, no damage to the frame or wear to my road bike,,,,, all positive effects... And easy to change the Assioma pedals back and forth between the 2 bikes. Kudos for this solution !!!!!
It's the best :)
Cool! I created this exact setup in January 2018 after trying to find a way of using Zwift without a trainer for my road bike or buying an expensive smart trainer.
I found a spin bike with a broken crank arm on eBay for £20 ($30), easy fix for $10. Bought the Assioma Uno, cheap Ant + dongle and a cheap heart rate monitor and got it all ruining on my iMac in my living room. I use the Zwift companion app on my iPhone mounted on my handlebars so as to control Zwift on my iMac, works a dream.
The biggest issue I had was getting the pedals calibrated with Zwift but I hooked them up to the Wahoo app and did a calibration ride.
Glad to see someone else who had the same idea and got it working too :-)
Like you I live in a tiny apartment but in London and I also have a very understanding wife!
The understanding wife is the most important part to be successful LOL. Sounds like you got your setup going for pretty cheap! The great thing about spin bikes is that they don't really wear down, so used is a great option if you can find one cheap nearby.
Ride on!
@@TwoWheelCruise Great video thanks pal. One thing though, you mention that it is cheap option but at €780 for pedals! ....thats hard to justify. I get the advantage of a spin bike, always there, quiet, cheap but that cost is a killer IMO.
I new to this whole thing and I watched your video till the end and I still have no idea how to use Zwift on a spin bike
Look for QZ - qdomyos-zwift and there’s a Facebook group with the same name.
The answer to my problem!! Thanks a million for the video!
Cheers :)
Thank you for this video, I am not sure why more cyclist do not use this type of setup more often. Very durable and affordable.
Yep, doesn't break the bank and lasts forever
Looks like the pedals are 400-600 dollars. if I dont have a bike already I might was well get the schwin for $800
Thanks for this video! I had Zwift for a while and we changed over to the Peloton and i miss Zwift a lot. Good to know there's a way to get back out there.
Thank you. Your video was awesome! Now I know the path to getting information from my Sunny spin bike to indoor cycling apps. Very generous of your time and knowledge.
highly recommend this purchase
Cool, even two years after! :) I am spinning instructor and the fixed flying wheel can also be an advantage depending on the technique. But you need to ride it as a track fixed bicycle. Even though your legs will always be moving you can use the momentum of that heavy rotational mass for relaxing the muscles for a couple of seconds as long as you don't let it slow down too much. I would not say that spinning bikes don't generate heat. The flying wheel after a spinning class gets so hot that you can barely touch it. :)
Thanks for sharing. I use the spin bike at the gym and thinking of getting one for home. This helps me alot.
Glad to hear that 😁
using zwift on a spinning bike as well. Mine has a builtin power meter and cadence sensor. My spinning bike send out the sensor signals using ant+. With an ant+ usb dongle this can be connected to Zwift running on windows. What I am. using now is the North Pole Engineering Cable device that converts ant+ to Bluetooth. Than I use zwift on android. Really happy with this setup.
@@TwoWheelCruise hi Is there much difference between the uno and duo for the power meters? And is accurate as the smart bikes?
@@feuerschnitzel which spin bike do you have?
@@minombreeslos I have a life fitness Ic5. It works with android through my North Pole Engineering CABLE device. It also works with Windows 10 and an Ant+ Bluetooth dongle. The bike does gives 0RPM and 0watts when RPM is below 50, but that is not a real problem for me. An alternative would be to get a cheaper spinning bike and buy for instance the garmin vector 3s power pedals. Another alternative is to spend more money on an Ic6 since it supposedly supports Bluetooth natively and has higher power precision, but for the price difference you can probably get power pedals. Whatever bike you get, make sure it has magnetic resistance and a V belt for low maintenance.
Regarding the resistance pads. They look like felt pads on OG Spinners. Using silicone only spray will lubricate and increase mechanical longevity and still get the higher resistance, without that drive train lock-up at super high resistance. Don't use any petroleum oils on the pads as it will cook and glaze the pads, ruining them. So again, silicone spray without any petroleum. Very much appreciate this video.
I got a spinbike too. Schwin - has a nice bicycle feel to it. I put my garmin cadence and speed sensors on it, and it works well. Is the on-screen speed accurate, I would say yes. But pedalling harder, for example when going up a hill, won't do anything for your online speed, you have to pedal faster. The spinbike I got doesn't use the felt-brake type resistance, but earth magnets -- totally silent - no noise from the friction, as there is none, not to mention no wear, and feels like the resistance on the road (highly recommend the magnet spin bikes). You just have to be honest to yourself and turn up the resistance for the up hills, and down. One thing I found with the spinbike, is when I got back onto the road after indoor winter training, I was able to really spin it out and maintain a much higher speed using a lower gear. The main drawback I'd say would be that you're always in the same gear and thus pretty much stay in the same position for the whole ride. I also changed the seat because the one that came with it just hurt my ass something fierce (wider and softer = pain). I got my spinbike at a local auction -- gyms are constantly either going out of business or overturning their equipment, so you can get a gym quality bike for a couple hundred bucks or less, if you're lucky at the auction ($1200 new).
The wear on spin bikes is minimal, I'm sure you can get some great deals used on craigslists or like you mentioned from gyms closing down.
Can you name model of Garmin cadence and speed sensors? Thank you
My experience is entirely different, using power meter pedals on the Schwinn IC4. Experience is seamless.
Thank you for the video. Maybe an update with you actually pulling up a ride on Zwift would be just as helpful. I was wondering if a speed sensor along with a power meter would be more realistic but apparently not really needed. I have several road bikes and have been thinking about Zwift for the winter months. I recently learned how to hook up my old Blackburn Trackstand using a speed sensor. Zwift already had the power conversions for it but then I thought it would be so much more convenient and much less wear and tear if I could use the older spin bike instead. Your video is a godsend. I just had those other questions about a speed sensor because that what I had to get for the road bike. I will be looking into purchasing those power pedals as they were also recommended at another Chanel as well. Peace ✌🏽
exceptionally helpful, thanks a lot!
11:39 The Assioma Favero power pedals INCLUDE A CADENCE READER TOO???? Thank you so much for mentioning that, that solves an issue I thought I was going to have this summer. In 2018 I bought a Canyon road bike in September and a Wahoo ELEMNT bundle in October - two big expenses - so I decided to enjoy a period of just HR training for a period before spoiling myself with the next (and final) upgrade, power. You totally sold me with your review of the Assioma Favero pedals a few months ago, so I decided I will purchase them around March/April. The main reason I'm sold on pedal based power over crank-based is, as you've mentioned often, you simply swap the pedals onto different bikes and have power on whatever bike you want. When I go to Japan this summer I'm going to bring my set up - soon to be purchased power pedals, Wahoo ELEMNT and all the Wahoo stuff that comes with it (Tickr HRM, Wahoo Speed Sensor). But not the Wahoo Cadence, because it's stuck (glued) onto the crank arm on my Canyon (my US bike) and I didn't want to mess with taking it off to stick on my Allez (my Japan bike). I was going to buy a separate Wahoo Cadence for the Allez, which admittedly is only $40. But now that I know the Favero pedals do cadence, that's one less expense to achieve my perfect setup for this summer. Thanks Cruise, I'm so glad I watched your video to the end! 😂😂😂
Trying to be patient and not spoiling yourself to much is a pretty hard thing to do Haha. But yeah, it's great having both power and cadence together 😁
Ha so funny I have my Japan bike too (Caad 9) and my US bike (Super Six Evo). I didn't realize my Assioma pedals had cadence built in either! One less thing to bring back and forth. This spin bike set up is the best ever, no need for a laptop either if you run Zwift mobile and just cast your phone to a tv.
Regarding getting the flywheel back up to speed at high resistance: It's only really an issue on friction resistance spin bikes. A magnetic resistance spin bike feels closer to that of a road bike.
i have a different spin bike using a cadence sensor and speed sensor and I use zwift. All you need to do is change the settings on Zwift for the wheel size. slightly cheeper way to do the same thing
Definitely a more affordable way to do it, but really inaccurate and takes away from the racing/training options which is one of the main reasons I like ZWIFT
What did you enter for the wheel size of your spin bike? Did you just measure the diameter of the flywheel?
@@Jut37 same question for me. Do you know the tyre size?
I love using my spin bike for zwift, no expensive parts wear, no adjusting gears and other maintenance, it's also really quiet
I'm glad to saw this video bro !!! I have my spin bike and want to use zwift, one advice about the sound during the time if you got too loud maybe because the cushion are not very new, you can use oil that you usually use to cook something and add a little in the sides flat wheel using a napkin
One more power meter option - not nearly as accurate, but portable and can be taken to your local fitness center is a HRM based power meter like the PowerTap PowerCal. It's what I use at our local fitness center since I can't remove their pedals or cranks.
That sounds like a great portable solution
I do this as well when I travel, great for a workout. not so much for racing but perfectly fine for general zwift riding.
I've found the workouts to be really effective
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Haha thanks! 😀
We right here fam 😂
Is it too late to join this crew?!
nice video. I just started on zwift, so I'll give ya a look up!
Cheers!
I really like the video. I wonder if it is better to get the duo over uno for the power meter, and if it is necessary. I am new to the power training but love the idea to use them on both my road bike and spin bike at home.
Uno is plenty sufficient. But having both can help fine tune your power balance if necessary
Power meter pedals work for me too. My wife's ifit is so quiet compared to my old set up.
Thank you. Very informative.
:)
Great video, thank you 😊
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your video, really shows you don’t need to get caught up with all the fancy electronic gadgetry . I would like to know What sort of feedback you get while using an app, what’s missing if anything?
Zwift works great on the spin bike. The biggest downside is you lose a bit of the immersion experience by having to control the resistance manually
Two Wheel Cruise I see, On the dedicated bikes it adjusts resistance as you go (nowhere to hide!) thanks for responding.
I will Zwift on my new Spin Bike!!! Thank you so much!!!! :))
Awesome! Enjoy! 😁
Great video, thanks! Do you still have to choose a trainer model in the Zwift setup, and if so, which one should I choose?
Thanks for the video. currently new to Zwift and so far I llove it, I am using an IC4. Did you have to increase the resistance a lot the to 200 watts ?
Thanks! Yeah, you'll need to add a fair bit
@@TwoWheelCruise Great thx. I guess Iam just really out of shape. I have a lot of work to do.
heh, heh - you were zwimming in unchatered waters :-)
I'll be using the e-motion rollers with ant+ resistance trainer (up to 10% ) and the floating front fork (if I hate rollera) a speed and cadence sensor on my fixed gear bike. I hope it's going to all work together once I get everything.
Hello! Great video thanks...
Thanks for watching!
I dunno how exactly the resistance 'switch' or knob works but maybe you can modify the switch using cheap index or friction shifters. It looks like a brake caliper to me.
I'm sure there are some hacks you could do, but I don't mind the twist handle. And yes, it's just a brake caliper
Awesome vid! So glad I got the assioma pedals last year based on your rec. Threw them on my Spin brand spin bike last night, and used Google Chromecast to cast Zwift to my tv. I've been able to use equipment I already had and spent zero extra dollars to get set up on Swift! Thanks again!!
Awesome! That's a good idea with chromecast
Very good. More about Japan also!
Great vid. New sub
Thanks! 🙂
Good video!!!
Just bought the US version you suggested and the power meter you suggested. What did you set for your crank arm length. It’s not on the crank arm like a normal bike?
Ps works great just wanted to make sure it was set up right!
Awesome, glad it's working for you!
I'm not sure the crank length on the US version.. Best to measure it yourself to be safe.
More likely than not your crank length is 172.5 for something like that.
Dude, you said the turbo trainer expensive but those power pedals are £575 (GBP) touch! More than any spin bike cost.
Yes, but I already had the pedals and I can use those everywhere, so much better bang for your buck
Yeah but then you would also be able to use them on your road bike.
I’m going to go against the grain here and give a few critiques on this video. He mentions sound and price as two of the main reasons to use a spin bike. Sound I definitely understand, but some of the newer models are getting pretty quiet.
Price: this rubbed me the wrong way. Let’s start with the 5 bikes I can see in the background. I love my bikes and have quite the stable myself, but if I was really focused on off season training and budget constrained, I think I could part with one bike to buy a smart trainer (or two). How about the set of $650 pedals (more in Japan?) and a $350 desk (no alternatives?!). Those two items alone would by a new high end smart trainer.
Just the comment I was planning to write... and the pedals are not cheap at all...
But the pedals you can use across all your bikes... Inside and outsidd
Cheap alternative for a table to put a IPad or computer on is a music stand $30
Yep, ipad setup is a great alternative
I use an old mixer stand from when I used to play in a band.
great how to video! Gives me some creative ideas for videos for my channel! :)
Hi great video. Does a cadence sensor and heart rate sensors are enought without speed sensor?
Between the spin bike, the $500 pedals, and the $250 Wahoo Desk (wth?!), you're at least in the ball park for what a Kickr Core cost. lol. Which has all the features that make it fully compatible and ready to run on Zwift. Unless you're building an indoor zwift trainer set-up with these parts you already had, getting a dedicated smart trainer already seems to fit the budget. lol
Would this setup also work with Electronic stationary bike? Where i asjust the resistance with buttons. Like Spirit XBU55?
Thanks a lot !
Cheers!
Anyone know any cost effective and quick solution for an indoor bike? The pedals are crazy expensive
If you are serious about road biking get the power meter pedals, you will not regret it for accurate training and not blowing up during a race
kokoy
Many people just want to shed fat and go for a spin. Not everyone’s serious about checking their ‘power’.
@@mickyorourke2467 definitely agree
Speed and cadence sensor.
@@JorgeHernandez-gf1oe will they work too in zwift?
Great video, but I'm still a bit confused as to how this all works with Zwift. For example say in Zwift you come to a hill. If you don't adjust the resistance does the hill get climbed but it's very easy? Do you have to increase the resistance but just "guess" as to how much? Thx!
you end up just putting out the same power, so you will climb the hill very slow. If you're in a group ride, you will likely lose pace, so you'll want to increase resistance or power to adjust.
@@TwoWheelCruise Thanks for the info!
@@TwoWheelCruise This is assuming people put out more power when going up hill. is that always the case?
@@garypaduana62 it takes more power to go up a hill, whether by car, foot, bicycle or any means. In Zwift with power meter pedals you will end up with a slower speed if you don't add more resistance to the spin bike (using more power).
@@kokoyhawaii Yep, that makes sense, and that's what I'm saying as well. If you're putting out 300W on flat, why would you all of a sudden put out 350W going up a hill? Isn't the natural tendency to slow down when going up a hill in real life while continuing to put out the same power and changing gears? So in zwift everyone slows down when taking the hill so it's not actually a problem?
I was looking into indoor cycling and came across your video😊
Some good stuff
Liked the video
and good tips👍👌
actually i was planning to buy the turbo trainer but as you can tell the coved 19 situation and the prices are going crazy but thankfully
Friend of mine gave me spin bike and it was a big help tbh it saved my money and i can exercise dally👍🏡
And yes i agree 7:34 my first experience was close to losing my foot lol
Even my wife heart her self
And hatred it
But its been couple days and naw im use to it
Thanks for reading
my long A$$ comment😉
Can't for your next video
Thanks! Glad to hear the spin bike is working well for you 🙂
@@TwoWheelCruise So if myself for example, I am a pretty decent racing bike cyclist but don't really want to set my racer up in the room due to wearing out components? So my question is can I use an exercise bike instead to win categorized races online & basically make a few hundred dollars every once in a while?
I really like this, thanks much!
cheers :)
Nice video! Are all spin bikes setup without a freewheel and more like a fixie? Looks painful when you stop and restart 😲
Yes. It is easy to start if you remove the brake resistance first.
I tried those pedals on my spin bike but sadly they didn't fit with the crank arm on my spin bike so looking at other options🤔
thank you for the video. I am trying to figure out how to use Zwift with my spinner. I do wish you would have covered that.
How does Zwift calculate the speed from the power meter pedals which do not have a speed sensor? Thank you for this video. I have a spin bike that I want set up similar to your set up with the power meter pedals.
speed is easily calculated by power, weight, virtual bike weight, wind, and virtual course gradient. Speed sensors indoors are not even remotely accurate.
I wanted to know what you put the bikes resistance when your racing on zwift
I have a Bowflex C6 coming and was really looking forward to using Zwift. Is it pointless using Zwift without power pedals on a spin bike like the C6? I don't want to waste my time on Zwift if it isn't worth it at all. Any information would be great guys
It depends on your goals and what you wanna use it for. If you just wanna ride zwift, then no it's not useless. If you want accurate data and to race on zwift, then it's best to go with some kind of power meter option.
@@TwoWheelCruise thanks for the quick reply! I am looking to work on fitness, not necessarily races although I would like to some day. If I enjoy it then I will probably invest in some power meters. Thanks 👍
Is 3kg flywheel bike good enough to get a feel of real cycling?
No, the point is not to simulate the real feel of cycling. But it does a great job as a workout.
I wish i could buy the things mentioned in this video. But I feel like it is kind of expensive. Since I have a kid, I cannot easily spend on things for myself anymore.
Cool, thank you for the video. I want to use Zwift on my current spin bike , I am not a hardcore bikecycle Rider and cant justify hundreds of dollars on a traditional Zwift set up. Thanks
Cheers, the spin bike works just fine :)
ı dont get this
whats the sense of zwift on a spin bike if its manuel adjusted?
Do you have a tribike? In my experience the aero bars on spinners are extremely uncomfortable.
No, and I don't use the aero bars. Either on the hoods or the drops
Do you find the aero bars uncomfortable?@@TwoWheelCruise
If they're comfortable, you're not doing it right (unless you're ultra distance). I'm fine on them for short track events, but that's it
Hi, nice video! Just a liitle question: Is Zwift doing the math and calculating speed and milage from watt & cadence input?
Wattage from power meter pedals, yes. Watts are watts in the flats, but it’s w/kg once it tilts up.
Any chance of a video fitting power pedals and swift set up please
Not sure what you mean, that's what I'm doing in this video?
@@TwoWheelCruise
Sorry, just bought a spin bike to keep fit then I see swift on an ad and wished I had waited.then I saw your video about using power pedals which seemed the easiest solution. Being a novice I don't have a out door bike apart from old mountain bike but
Just want to use swift.there must be thousands of people like me out there and your video is the only one I've found that helps .a video on setting up swift from scratch with power pedals fitting on spin bike would be brilliant..
Cheers
Like I said thousands of people with spin bikes are seeing swift on ads and want to get in on it but can't.
Do I need two power pedals or does one work ??
I've been getting a lot of those ads too, and agreed, there's probably a lot of people who don't know what to do.
For this setup, it works with the single power pedal option
Do you know if I can buy the Garmin power pedals and use it for any spin bike? I mean the inches are the same as the ''hole'' of the pedals?
Why don't you use your regular bike on rollers or on a cheap trainer?
If you don't already have the power pedals, wouldn't it be a net zero sum to either go this route or a smart trainer?
With the exception of having a dedicated bike.
The Uno pedals are only $420, plus a $200~$300 spin bike, and it's still cheaper than the silent smart trainers which start at about $900. Plus you can use the pedals on your normal bike and no wear on the normal bike, so I think it's still a great option even if you don't already have the smart pedals.
Main advantage of his setup is ability to train with power both indoors and outdoors.
A big one for me is having a dedicated bike that will not break and I can just hop on at anytime and ride no problem.
It is a good option for people like me already has an old fashion spin bike at home.
Since it wasn’t mentioned, I’ll throw in the fact that spin bikes are easily adjustable for other family members. My wife and daughter use the bike (Schwinn IC4) with the Peloton Digital app and the experience is excellent. No additional equipment required, besides tablet/phone.
Instead of a getting power meter, can't you just use a bike like IC4 or C6 and have the power measurement built in?
Do you get drops? I use a Keiser M3 and I get a lot of drops.
So I stumbled across this video because I’m trying to research anything that would allow my stationary bike which is not a spin bike like this that you see in all the videos to be able to run in Zwift or apps like Zwift. I was recently gifted a freemotion 370r and it’s your pretty run of the mill smart bike (I guess you could call it) for today. Every method I have found states for some reason it can not be used with that bike or other exercise bikes similar to it, yet I see no reason why if this method works on a very simple bike why it wouldn’t work for literally any bike? Just wondering if anyone has any information into this
But if you control the resístase manually, you cannot compete with your friends or other people. Cannot compare
My Tacx trainer broke down two weeks ago, reading the stories from customers about smart trainers is putting me off to buy another smart trainer, IMHO added to all those experiences I read, smart trainers eventually break for one reason or another, and they are not cheap. I am now considering a robust spinning bike to add my sensors. Have you considered adapting a road shift lever to control the resistance? Do you think it will work?
Spin bikes are way more durable and cheaper. I'm fine with using the default resistance wheel, but I guess you could upgrade to a more real-like setup.
500$ pedals/ ya .....no thanks
These are not just pedals but a power meter for your bike, by the way $500 is half the price of a crank power meter
Best pedals ever for measuring power if you ever get serious about cycling. Highly recommend the Assiomas
yea this sounded like a real bargain at first, then casually mentions the fact that you need 500$ pedals. damnit. lol
Absolutely worth the money for these pedals. One of the most accurate power meter pedals on the market for sure. Insane battery life. Money well spent, no doubt.
Was looking at Pelotons but already owned a Spin bike and found this would be a great solution for me. How exactly does the Assioma's connect to a computer? Is it just via Bluetooth or can you link it through your phone app?
bluetooth or ant+
@@TwoWheelCruise Ant+ is the better choice of the two if you have DUO's right?
Yes, I use ant+ with a usb receiver
@@TwoWheelCruise Awesome, thank you
Hi, just installed the Assioma Uno’s on spin bike. They work great, although,after a few rides I feel my watts are under stated in Zwift. Any recommendations on how to correct? Thanks.
The Assioma Uno power meter pedals are pretty dang accurate. I have them set up on my peloton for use on zwift as well and I doubt they are not reading accurately. Maybe try performing the zero offset before your next ride to make sure they are fully calibrated. Other than that, just Ride on and build that strengrh.
Could you please let me know if this is better compared to hr2vp app. Because in hr2vp power sometimes greatly decreases even if I am applying same force
i like your laptop stand, how do you call that? trying to find similar at amazon but can find one
wahoo standing desk
Quick question: In the previous video you had the Assioma DUO in the link description, here you have the UNO. Which do you recommend? Is the Duo worth the price?
If you're on a budget, got with the Uno. They work fine. If you have the money and want both legs data, get the DUO.
@@TwoWheelCruise Thanks brother for the quick response! Love your videos!
Great video thanks - when I cycle on ZWIFT really hard the animation is still very slow - my cheapish spin bike has built in blue tooth connectivity however I have the feeling that regardless of the resistance (power) this isn't being reflected in the app - think its just transmitting cadence? So to confirm my understanding I need a power meter to reflect the different watts in ZWIFT? otherwise I could just spin with no resistance or do I need cadence and heart rate too? Confused on what is needed to reflect my speed in the app correctly.
I would not trust the data pt from a cheap spin bike, it will not be accurate. The best way to connect to zwift is with a dedicated power meter, so either pedals or crank arm attachment for a spin bike.
How do I get the change in resistance to correlate to change in power output? I have a Urevo spin bike (awesome bike) but when I increase resistance this isnt transferred into an increase in power output
Are the pedals SPD compatible?
you can do a pedal body conversion
What wheel size do you choose in Zwift settings for a spin bike?
I'm connecting by power meter, so wheel size is irrelevant
One question: the 'smart' trainers will automatically apply more resistance when the gradient increases (right?), how do you manage this with the trainer and the manual brake? are you prompted to do so?
Yes, this is one of the weaknesses I address in the video, but it's not a problem since you can just manually adjust the resistance when you start a climb. There is no prompt for regular riding, but it's pretty obvious when you start climbing. I was able to adapt to it pretty quickly and now the shifting as climbs come up is pretty natural to me
Completely agree with the response. After a small adjustment period, it’s seamless.
I have a spin bike with manual resistance too... how does this send information to the console and zwift?
I can't get above 100-110 Watts no matter what the resistance is which is ridiculously low, but i don't know if it's just because I'm new to cycling or it just can't get accurate power data? Just getting lapped by everybody on zwift
does it make if a difference if its the uno or duo power meter ?
Both work fine. The duo just gives you data for both sides individually
@@TwoWheelCruise so for the UNO ZWIFT just assumes equal strength for left and right stroke?
did you have any issues having power connect to zwift? i have a cycleops 300 spin bike and i'm using the favero uno pedals. my power and cadence are connected but only my cadence shows and the avatar does not move.
No issues for me. Maybe try reconnecting the power source to the pedals and recallibrate?
Recent got a wahoo cadence and speed sensor. I noticed my watts do not go any higher than 400. I’ve done some research and it says it caps it at 400, is there anyway fix this?
The only way you can fix it is to install a power meter
What did you enter in zwift for the wheel size of the spin bike? Did you just measure the diameter of the flywheel?
You don't need the wheel size, it's power based.
Using wahoo speed and cadence sensors on Sunny health and fitness SF-B1002 - did you find on what wheel size fo select on zswife app..?
I think spin bikes work best with a power meter in order to get accurate "speed" on Zwift
Exactly, I just use power. Wheel size / speed is inaccurate
kokoy any recommendations for good power meter for sunny health and fitness SF-B1002 Spinning static bike ..?
Two Wheel Cruise any recommendations for good power meter for sunny health and fitness SF-B1002 Spinning static bike ..?
@@jbngowda assioma pedals! Two Wheel has some reviews on them, I've been riding them due to his recs. Honestly, having access to my power data has made me a better cyclist, it's a bonus that the pedals can be used with Zwift !
Power meter is so expensive
x2
Buy once. Cry once.
In the Zwift settings, what size did you pick for the wheel size?
No wheel size, just connected by power
@@TwoWheelCruise thanks! Following you on Zwift 🚴🏻”ride on”
Can you use power meter pedals with zwift on any spin bike?
Yes
These Favero Assioma, which are they compatible with? with SPD or with Delta cleats?
Look
I have a Peleton spin bike. Do you think there is a way of incorporating zwift with that bike somehow?
if it has a bluetooth/ant+ speed/power sensor, then yes
The link to the spin bike on Amazon doesn't have the drop bars. Can you help?
The exact same bike doesn't seem available outside of Japan unfortunately..
here's a drop bar version I found with some decent reviews amzn.to/35CiZaX
This is not about Zwift, it's your opinion on spin bikes in general
Have you heard of the schwinn classic cruiser??
Nope
So, what trainer on Zwift did you select for your bike during the Zwift setup?
I didn't select a trainer, just the power meter
Using wahoo speed and cadence sensors on Sunny health and fitness SF-B1002 - did you find on what wheel size fo select on zswife app..?
Very nice video, thanks a lot! I saw many comments criticizing the price of the pedals: he obviously already had the pedals, I don’t believe he bought them just for this. There are a few cheaper options in case you don’t have the pedals but still want to hook up the spin bike to Zwift, like installing those small wahoo speed/cadence sensors to the bike with a cable tie, there are a few videos out there showing it, like this one th-cam.com/video/xyUPrT5rvT8/w-d-xo.html