It's incredible how much effort has been put in to preserve the landscape, when they are finished there won't be a blade of grass out of place. Amazing!
@theboy-uk the tunnel section sure won't, that's what I was referring to. If you want to talk about the entire project, have you seen a motorway being built? Is that what you would prefer, because I can tell you it is 10x as damaging to the environment.
@@xaiano794 The video covered several miles, but the only tunnel is an insignificant part. And yes, I remember the M40 extension being built, which did far less damage during its construction phase, was completed far, far quicker than this mess. Nor did it need such a massively wide strip of land. It pretty much needed little more than what we see today.
@theboy-uk you have to be kidding me. You genuinely think an 8- lane motorway is less damaging to the environment than a 2 lane railway track? Tell me, how do you think a hedgehog would fare trying to cross the motorway?
what are you smoking? They are literally burying the railway so there will be no disruption to the landscape. I suppose you'd prefer a nice 'natural' 8 lane motorway instead?
Were all the railways built in the Victorian era also "ENVIRONMENTAL VANDALISM" ? What about the canals too ? Would you rather us all live in mud huts and all grow our own food ?
I couldn't find your email so I had to share here. This is amazing footage but I worry that you are seriously incriminating yourself with these videos. There is no way you are keeping VLOS on your drone at such distances, across such vast landscapes. You're flying by the remote display only here and this is illegal under CAA rules. PLEASE be careful and don't get yourself into trouble. This would make me sad with such fantastic footage.
Hi, and thanks for your comments. You may notice that these videos are not one long video, but shorter ones that are joined together, sometimes more seamlessly than others - its quite easy to get the line right between flights, as I have the construction works as a guide, but I'm not very good with the height due to differing take-off positions that each flight is made from. Hope that clarifies :)
Is there a need for the deep cuttings?. Looks over engineered . I would have though a high speed line could manage some hills like the French TGV does rather than a dead flat line the whole way. Good video .
@@lukeminett2695 But that is not the prime reason here, its because the UK railways cannot deal with the inclines seen in southern European countries like France.
Cutting a commuter's journey time from London to Birmingham by 29 minutes does not warrant this wholesale destruction of our countryside and wildlife habitats or the enormous cost to the taxpayer. I cannot help thinking that a lot of new millionaires have been created at our expense. Look at all that idle plant!
No need to rush when the taxpayer is funding it all without question, it encourages it to be dragged out for as long as possible. And the cut in journey time was supposed to be about 12 minutes, LOL. The justification actually stated that you can be productive on an HS2 train, because you can use your laptop or make calls. Apparently, this is not possible on Avanti and Chiltern lines for reasons nobody from HS2 was ever able to explain, and this extra productive time is embedded into all the calculations that make HS2 seem remotely worthwhile!
@@xaiano794 I'm now assuming this is a wind up, going by previous comments you've made. That or you've been smoking something stronger than you're used to!
@jodeldk when it's complete the vast majority of the land used in construction is going to be returned to normal use. I honestly don't understand why people would prefer more roads, even a 2 lane road uses more land and without projects like this we'd need an 8 lane motorway to carry the extra traffic
Or even south of Watford? It doesn't really serve anyone except the handful of people that want to travel from central Bimingham to central London without using the existing 2 lines....
All that HS2 will do is provide huge numbers of seats for people travelling between the UK's biggest cities and give them lots of their precious time back. It will only make their lives much better and more productive and make our country function far better than it does today. Oh, and it will allow a lot more freight to travel by rail on the classic lines while giving the intermediate stations a more reliable and frequent passenger service. And it should promote modal shift from polluting forms of slower and more dangerous transport. Yep, why would anyone want HS2? Is it because they are intelligent and understand how things will be getting better?
@@chris8405 Ah, arguments taken straight from the HS2 handbook :). Trouble is, not enough people want to travel between Birmingham and London - the East leg of Phase 2 is already cancelled, and sensibly the West leg is looking ever more in jeopardy - and there is *PLENTY* of passenger capacity on the existing 2 lines outside of London bound morning rush hour. Added to that, the commuting world changed for office based people. And NOBODY was ever going to commute from the centre of Birmingham to the centre of London regularly - most commuters moved out of London because they wanted to live in a less busy, quieter area. HS2 will make zero difference to freight or commuter services, as exactly the same number of trains will need to run on the existing lines to provide the services that already exist, and that people want. Lastly, you make a suggestion that HS2 is magically greener (than what?), which is factually incorrect if comparing to other comparable options.
@@chris8405 HS2 is a totally unnecessary waste of £100,000,000,000 and will only benefit a very small number of the population; the people involved in the construction and those that allowed and gave permission for it to happen. I don't think for one minute there was any intelligence applied. Where is the intelligence in destroying the environment at such a cost. £100 billion would have been better spent saving lives in East Africa and many other parts of our planet. But as a species we're too greedy selfish and primitive to make such decisions. The 'They' you mention live in ignorance, do not understand how things work and have no idea how to make things better for everyone.
@@chris8405 straight from the discredited business case. The one question that none of the HS2 fanboys can answer is this: by pure virtue of introducing HS2, without giving the intermediate stations a lesser service than what they have now - bearing in mind that no Euston to New St service in the current timetable is ever non-stopping - everything stops at at least Coventry - where is this much vaunted "extra capacity" on the WCML/Birmingham going to come from? if you're not to chop the Pendolino services and leave everything else to 350's and 730's EMU's? where is this extra capacity going to come from which HS2 is apparently going to give it? I've asked at least 10 HS2 fanboys yet and had no coherent cohesive answer. Just more unsubstantiated HS2 projected business case BS.
I love infrastructure projects but this just seems like a colossal waste of time, the scale of it is out of hand and seems to be nothing more than an engineering consultant’s dream….
I think with the eye watering sums of money and initial poor planning and scoping, everyone is milking it as much as they can, making it even more expensive :(
@@chris8405 Spend the limited money available on services that are needed and potentially have a long term future, not on vanity projects that will need monstrous taxpayer subsidies to run (and build in the first place) and be so under utilised, will be closed, Beeching style.
@@chris8405 facilitate more people working from home. Use the power of high capacity broadband. The lockdowns proved it was possible. Plus, with the Sustainable Development Goals and Net Zero, you proles aint gonna be travelling anywhere fast.
It seems to be doing loads of environmental damage for very little benefit, when the existing 2 routes have plenty of capacity, despite what the rail industry try to claim.
It's incredible how much effort has been put in to preserve the landscape, when they are finished there won't be a blade of grass out of place. Amazing!
What grass are you serious they cannot put it back.
Have you been on the sherbert? its a huge amount of destruction, including ancient woodland that will take centuries to return.
@theboy-uk the tunnel section sure won't, that's what I was referring to.
If you want to talk about the entire project, have you seen a motorway being built?
Is that what you would prefer, because I can tell you it is 10x as damaging to the environment.
@@xaiano794 The video covered several miles, but the only tunnel is an insignificant part. And yes, I remember the M40 extension being built, which did far less damage during its construction phase, was completed far, far quicker than this mess. Nor did it need such a massively wide strip of land. It pretty much needed little more than what we see today.
@theboy-uk you have to be kidding me. You genuinely think an 8- lane motorway is less damaging to the environment than a 2 lane railway track?
Tell me, how do you think a hedgehog would fare trying to cross the motorway?
Great drone footage The_Boy and all in one video! Your interest in this project is evidently clear. Keep it up!
Thanks :)
ENVIRONMENTAL VANDALISM
Hard to disagree with that!
what are you smoking? They are literally burying the railway so there will be no disruption to the landscape. I suppose you'd prefer a nice 'natural' 8 lane motorway instead?
@@xaiano794 You are incorrect, very, very little of this section is going to be in a tunnel.
Were all the railways built in the Victorian era also "ENVIRONMENTAL VANDALISM" ?
What about the canals too ?
Would you rather us all live in mud huts and all grow our own food ?
I find it hard to determine where the track lines will be as the excavation is all over the place at the moment. So many roads and ponds.
It is indeed. And much of what you can see is actually temporary, and will be shifted again.
Great weather, fine colours 👌 Progress seems to be the same 🤪 Cheers Mate 👍
Thanks mate :)
Really good drone footage.
Thanks :)
I couldn't find your email so I had to share here. This is amazing footage but I worry that you are seriously incriminating yourself with these videos. There is no way you are keeping VLOS on your drone at such distances, across such vast landscapes. You're flying by the remote display only here and this is illegal under CAA rules. PLEASE be careful and don't get yourself into trouble. This would make me sad with such fantastic footage.
Hi, and thanks for your comments. You may notice that these videos are not one long video, but shorter ones that are joined together, sometimes more seamlessly than others - its quite easy to get the line right between flights, as I have the construction works as a guide, but I'm not very good with the height due to differing take-off positions that each flight is made from.
Hope that clarifies :)
Is there a need for the deep cuttings?. Looks over engineered . I would have though a high speed line could manage some hills like the French TGV does rather than a dead flat line the whole way. Good video .
Thanks. I don't actually know the answer to your query, I'd assumed to overcome the worse of the terrain differences?
@@theboy-uk Maybe some train fan on here might know . This is how the french do it
th-cam.com/video/pmeY1u31eak/w-d-xo.html
@@dronehawk Yeah, that incline looks intense compared to ours!
Deep cuttings are often in AONB so that the trainline will not disrupt views across the landscape when complete
@@lukeminett2695 But that is not the prime reason here, its because the UK railways cannot deal with the inclines seen in southern European countries like France.
Cutting a commuter's journey time from London to Birmingham by 29 minutes does not warrant this wholesale destruction of our countryside and wildlife habitats or the enormous cost to the taxpayer.
I cannot help thinking that a lot of new millionaires have been created at our expense. Look at all that idle plant!
No need to rush when the taxpayer is funding it all without question, it encourages it to be dragged out for as long as possible. And the cut in journey time was supposed to be about 12 minutes, LOL. The justification actually stated that you can be productive on an HS2 train, because you can use your laptop or make calls. Apparently, this is not possible on Avanti and Chiltern lines for reasons nobody from HS2 was ever able to explain, and this extra productive time is embedded into all the calculations that make HS2 seem remotely worthwhile!
It's not just the increase in speed, it's the increase in capacity.
What a mess, so much land taken and wildlife displaced for this expensive folly
Indeed, and for what gain?
What land is taken? Are you looking at the video when typing this?
@@xaiano794 I'm now assuming this is a wind up, going by previous comments you've made. That or you've been smoking something stronger than you're used to!
@@xaiano794I live near it and cross it frequently, also as pilot I fly the route so yes I do see it
@jodeldk when it's complete the vast majority of the land used in construction is going to be returned to normal use.
I honestly don't understand why people would prefer more roads, even a 2 lane road uses more land and without projects like this we'd need an 8 lane motorway to carry the extra traffic
Does any one north of Watford even want HS2?
Or even south of Watford? It doesn't really serve anyone except the handful of people that want to travel from central Bimingham to central London without using the existing 2 lines....
All that HS2 will do is provide huge numbers of seats for people travelling between the UK's biggest cities and give them lots of their precious time back. It will only make their lives much better and more productive and make our country function far better than it does today. Oh, and it will allow a lot more freight to travel by rail on the classic lines while giving the intermediate stations a more reliable and frequent passenger service. And it should promote modal shift from polluting forms of slower and more dangerous transport. Yep, why would anyone want HS2? Is it because they are intelligent and understand how things will be getting better?
@@chris8405 Ah, arguments taken straight from the HS2 handbook :). Trouble is, not enough people want to travel between Birmingham and London - the East leg of Phase 2 is already cancelled, and sensibly the West leg is looking ever more in jeopardy - and there is *PLENTY* of passenger capacity on the existing 2 lines outside of London bound morning rush hour. Added to that, the commuting world changed for office based people. And NOBODY was ever going to commute from the centre of Birmingham to the centre of London regularly - most commuters moved out of London because they wanted to live in a less busy, quieter area.
HS2 will make zero difference to freight or commuter services, as exactly the same number of trains will need to run on the existing lines to provide the services that already exist, and that people want.
Lastly, you make a suggestion that HS2 is magically greener (than what?), which is factually incorrect if comparing to other comparable options.
@@chris8405 HS2 is a totally unnecessary waste of £100,000,000,000 and will only benefit a very small number of the population; the people involved in the construction and those that allowed and gave permission for it to happen. I don't think for one minute there was any intelligence applied. Where is the intelligence in destroying the environment at such a cost. £100 billion would have been better spent saving lives in East Africa and many other parts of our planet. But as a species we're too greedy selfish and primitive to make such decisions. The 'They' you mention live in ignorance, do not understand how things work and have no idea how to make things better for everyone.
@@chris8405 straight from the discredited business case.
The one question that none of the HS2 fanboys can answer is this: by pure virtue of introducing HS2, without giving the intermediate stations a lesser service than what they have now - bearing in mind that no Euston to New St service in the current timetable is ever non-stopping - everything stops at at least Coventry - where is this much vaunted "extra capacity" on the WCML/Birmingham going to come from? if you're not to chop the Pendolino services and leave everything else to 350's and 730's EMU's?
where is this extra capacity going to come from which HS2 is apparently going to give it? I've asked at least 10 HS2 fanboys yet and had no coherent cohesive answer. Just more unsubstantiated HS2 projected business case BS.
I love infrastructure projects but this just seems like a colossal waste of time, the scale of it is out of hand and seems to be nothing more than an engineering consultant’s dream….
I think with the eye watering sums of money and initial poor planning and scoping, everyone is milking it as much as they can, making it even more expensive :(
And your alternative to make transport better is what exactly?
@@chris8405 Spend the limited money available on services that are needed and potentially have a long term future, not on vanity projects that will need monstrous taxpayer subsidies to run (and build in the first place) and be so under utilised, will be closed, Beeching style.
@@chris8405 facilitate more people working from home. Use the power of high capacity broadband. The lockdowns proved it was possible. Plus, with the Sustainable Development Goals and Net Zero, you proles aint gonna be travelling anywhere fast.
Disgraceful 🤬
It seems to be doing loads of environmental damage for very little benefit, when the existing 2 routes have plenty of capacity, despite what the rail industry try to claim.