Avengers Infinity War - Marc’s Review
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I accept the Star-Lord thing because he's basically a man-child who would fly off the handle given that stimulus.
NoctilioGames So if your gf was killed you wouldn’t go apeshit?
agreed
If I found out my girlfriend got killed by a dude with a gauntlet with that much power, I'm helping the superheroes get the gauntlet off, I'm ripping it from them, I'm putting it on, and then dying from being overwhelmed with the power...
...but that's how I'd go out and I'd try my hardest to take him with me.
I sure as hell wouldn't doom half the universe, though.
NoctilioGames it's. It out of character so it doesn't bother me. Thanos was gonna get all the stones either way.
Exactly. Look how jealous he got when Gamora complimented Thor. Also when he was so childish and copying Thor’s accent 🙈
Love you Marc, but I disagree with the relationship between Peter and Gamora was only skin deep. Peter almost sacrificed his life trying to save Gamora in space. And remember your favorite scene near the end of first GotG, when Gamora said to Peter "take my hand", and Peter see her as his dying mother on bed? That's how much Peter loves Gamora. You don't need traditional Romeo and Juliet type of romance to show the depth of love between the two.
Quill has loved Gamora SO MUCH since the beginning... I've often heard dudes comment more than they don't see Gamora as loving Quill as much, and I'd have to disagree. Gunn never went for the "she thinks this bumbling idiot is pathetic, but that's activating her mothering instinct, so she likes it" cliche that I have seen SO MANY TIMES and was fully prepared to endure once I saw how Quill and Gamora were way back in GotG 1. She had contention with him, yes, but it was around issues of honor, with her seeing him as just a pirate. The moment he started risking himself to save the galaxy, it was ON. Gamora has had more issues defining and acting on her feelings than a lack of depth of feeling.... Look at who raised her! Do you think she would know how to just upgrade her relationship with Quill without being a bit overwhelmed?!
I wonder sometimes if Marc watches these movies as a fan and not a writer. Thanos chastised Ronin for alienating his favorite daughter. In this movie he says he hoped she would sit in his throne one day. He's taken many children over the years and clearly thinks of her as his own daughter. Why was that so hard to grasp?
Figured Doc Strange knew Starlord would lose it and attack him no matter what, he gave up the time stone as he knew it was the only way to win in the end. (That 1 in x million outcomes)
You could see Gamora and Quill had feelings through vol.2 aswell. She was literally his reason to live after losing his daddy and mom
cactuarcloud Yeah I don’t know why he said that their love for each other is shown throughout the first two GOTG movies .
Agreed. I clearly bought the idea that they loved each other. Starlord's outburst was inevitable.
When they sang along to rubberband man you could tell something.
If you watch that scene (I have three times lmao) you'll notice that the only people who try to stop him are Tony and Drax. Strange doesn't even attempt to stop him, and I think he does it on purpose. Throughout the entire conflict, Strange is pretty passive when certain things go south and it feels intentional
...and there's your 2018 definition of irony. I think you're right about the good Doctor. Tony is going to do the thing that makes the defeat of Thanos possible if he doesn't do it himself.
So... you forgot the scene where Peter took off his mask to save her in Guardians 1? Love of my life stuff has been there a long time. They reach the finality of that kind of emotional love story point in this film.
Yeah there is a no so subtle love story between them in guardians vol 1 & 2 😂
I think it also comes down to the idea that sometimes people are flawed and they can't help but do the wrong thing. He wasn't in a logical head-space at the moment.
I most certainly felt the Gamora death. The scene was amazing and added wonderful depth to Thanos. But to the Peter Quill point, not only has there been enough time for them to love eachother since the last film, they are also friends. I think Peter would be almost equally angry if Rocket or Groot was murdered by Thanos.
Yeah, the LOSS is the key activator here, not love necessarily although it does play a part. Only problem I have with the scene is that he punches him and doesn't shoot Thanos in the face like he did his dad.
Marc has some good points but I think he forgot Guardians 2 was set in 2014, so there's 4 years of Gamora and Starlord's lives we didn't see. I don't think it's much different than Pepper and Tony getting back together in between Civil War and Homecoming.
Yeah he misses big points.
ladygiggles
not only that, but to accept Marc's criticism then you have to accept the premise that Star Lord's outburst was purely motivated by his love for Gamora; a premise with which i disagree.
it's not just that he loved her, but that she also died with him having disappointed her. i buy that for such a clearly emotionally immature person, Peter Quill would not handle coping with those two notions very well. especially not simultaneously.
but Marc isn't outside of the common sentiment with that plot point, as far as i've seen. so it's a fair perspective.
Good point! History basicly repeated itself for him, Gamora died after he disappointed her, just like he felt he disappointed his Mom by being unable to hold her hand as she passed.
That's a good point. Although the difference would still be we got a lot of Pepper and Tony being in love before, it's just a matter of them making up. The hard-romance between Gamora and Starlord doesn't have the same foundation.
But yeah, it's not a super-hard blank to fill. It didn't bother me any.
The timeline is a mess. In Guardians 2, Stan Lee mentions that he was a Fed Ex driver...that cameo was in Civil War, which takes place as early as 2016 or as late as 2020. The "8 Years Later" title car places Spider-Man Homecoming as early as 2018 or as late as 2020...Tony says in this movie it's been 6 years since Avengers1...According to Homecoming that's wildly innacurate.
I totally disagree about Starlord and Gamora.They don't need to be the great love of the MCU.Starlord has lost his mother, his father(who killed his mother) and his other father Yondu.Add to that, the fact that we all know Starlord to be not so mature and not in totall control of his emotion and you can understand his actions after losing another person he loved.I know this scene is frustrating, it's supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it's not making sense.(sorry for english, I'm from a magical world called Greece)
I was just going to say the same thing....
He also forgot that this takes place 2yrs after the 2nd Guardians of the galaxy movie. So they definitely found love in that time
Really??I didn't know that!!Thanks!!
Jim Pavlidis absolutely spot on. I bet Stark would have had a similar reaction if he had found out Pepper had been killed due to the actions of Thanos and his minions.
Agreed, Jim of Greece!
Quill is a selfish man child, why would he grow up in that moment?
Gorlak You understand nothing .
No, that does pretty much sum up his character. His arc is still happening and he is beginning to take responsibility and care for others, but he is still an immature, selfish, impetuous person, He is growing up mentally and getting better, but severe trauma can cause regressive behaviors to resurface.
It's not just Quill's love for Gamora, it's his loss of other's such as Yondu. His feelings are raw. If Thanos had killed Pepper, Iron Man would have done the same thing.
FEBAGames Exactly /
FEBAGames exactly its everything quill has lost he couldn't lose gamora
FEBAGames well the end of Civil war is basically that.
Stark/Pepper, Quill/Gamora are apples and oranges but I agree with you for the most part.
Also dont forget strange saw the o e possibility of winning and made sure everything went that way so he could have stopped quill if it mattered. Everything that happened was supposed to happen for the final victory in the next movie.
Congrats on the signed poster, Marc! 💪 Thanks for being so generous with your time when we ran into each other at the marathon.
Awe man... I love Kevin and Marc’s banter...since seeing the movie this was the one thing I’ve been waiting for 😭😭😭
On Quill and Gamora; they obviously love each other after 2 and this movie is 3 years after that. Also, Peter immediately attempts to murder his father upon hearing he killed his mother. Yeah, he obviously loved his mom but it shoes he's super quick to flip out upon hearing something like that. I just don't understand why he didn't just shoot him in the face.
Bryan Desmond Shooting him in the face would have been the same result.
Omega tor Exactly. A blaster to the face is like shooting Hulk in the face with one. It's only going to piss him off, and the result is the same.
I guess Marc missed the 14 million possibilities Dr. Strnge had mentioned.
Or he's so egotistical that he believes that he see a winning solution that Strange couldn't in 14 millions tries
Emotional distance?? Get the hell out of here. Pepper begging Tony to come back to Earth, Wanda and Vis in Scotland, Gamora telling Quill to kill her, Quill struggling with actually having to kill her on Knowhere, Thor talking to Rocket about how much he has lost, Gamora when she thought she had killed her psychotic father and even though she knew he is crazy you can tell when she stabbed Thanos in the throat that it truly destroyed her emotionally.
Well said.
No, they shouldn't have killed Vision, Marc. I'm glad they kept the idealism these characters are supposed to represent. That's why they are superHEROES.
remeber hows starlord almost sacrificed himself for gamora in one of the gaurdians of the galaxy.. put his space breathing thing on her, thier love is believable
Exactly. He barely knew her at that point. In Infinity War, the bond is much , much deeper. Even if you don't buy the romantic love, it's quite clear and convincing that the guardians are a family.
One thing in all the reviews i've seen getting after Quill that hasn't been mentioned. Wouldn't the whole thing kind of hinge ON him reacting that way? Strange did say it was the only outcome he saw where they won, so that would lead to believe it had to play out with Quill finding out and reacting how he did so things unfold where he has to hand over the time stone.
Emotional distances? Really? The beginning of the movie has tons of emotion between Thor, Loki, Heimdall and the loss of Asgardians. I connected immediately with Thor and Loki, so much loss for them, especially Thor.
Mark, you are a trooper! 31 hours!
WOW!
I couldn't do that marathon. I can admit that. That's impressive.
MrShado And insane.
I would if we skip iron man 3 and thor the dark world
Loreaver ... that's still around 23-25 hours tho! I dunno....
I'll probably sleep for Hulk; Thor 2; and for strategy only by sacrifice civil war part 1 and maybe avengers 2.... and probably sleep some part of iron Man 2 becuz 8've watched it too many times already
Yeah you could. You dont want to.
Also Peter Quill, you can say, never grew up. He is stuck in the time that he was taken from Earth in a pop culture sense and as far as maturity. So maybe(just maybe) they portrayed his insane love in a stand-offish, pre-teen fashion. Gamora, as well was victim to a child hood, possibly socially stunting trama. Awesome review. Glad someone was able to get to it somehow.
I saw it at 9am on that first saturday, and it was perfect. Everyone was quiet, a few people crying horrifically at the end, but no one interrupted anything, which was amazing. I may just start always going first thing in the morning, rofl.
YESSSS. I was waiting for Kevin's official but Mark is badass too! Never clicked on a video so fast!
Crystarium Network I'm sure you've clicked on other videos faster but you're probably just trying to emphasize how excited you were.
Crystarium Network me too!!!!
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Dr Strange saw this coming, and this was why it ended that way. Ie, Starlord did what he was supposed to do.
Ryan Barnett It is the one scenario that he saw would work and they win in the end. Thanos needs to get his win and realize it is not what he wanted.
I thought that was the general census. Pretty clear to me when Strange told Stark they were in the endgame now and this was the only way. They had to win loose the battle so Stark could live long enough to sacrifice Cap or Pepper to wield the gauntlet and undo it.
You are right. Out of all the millions of opportunities, that decision too does not work... Removing the glove just meant he would have gotten it back and still won. Strange saw that also. That's why he let it happen. What are you not grasping Marc?
Thanos had the space stone. Trying to use portals to cut off his hand would just not work on him.
Ryan Barnett
Dr. Strange saw 14M+ futures, with only 1 chance of success. It was a desperate gamble on his part.
And he took it.
Strange knew Tony was key to defeating Thanos. So he did what he had to do.
Okay, I don't understand how so many people can be so..... "innocent".. and think that why doctor strange doesn't open a portal on his hand,and why thor doesn't cut his hand.
FIRST: He can't open a portal where there's already something there. Cull Obsidian went into the portal when Wong closed it, that's why his hand was cut off. So Strange cannot just magically open a portal in the middle of his hand, and they cannot move him either because Mantis is barely keeping him under control. So that idea IS NOT POSSIBLE!
SECOND: When you fight someone who's a threat to the universe, your aim is to kill him, not to to cut his arm. Thor's axe stabs into Thanos's body. But it won't be able to directly clean cut off his arm. Remember, even all Iron man's attack only made a scratch on his cheek. It's Thanos we're talking about, his body is strong! So that idea IS NOT POSSIBLE!
Wrong. Only Marc Bernardin can see a winning scenario where Dr. Strange could not in 14 million tries. Ya see, Marc wrote the "Genius" comic. So, he clearly thinks he's one.
3:12 AHA! There I am! ❤️❤️❤️
I think Marc’s fundamentally underestimating Peter and Gamora’s relationship and what it’s meant to be.
The Ponderer I think he's fundamentally overestimating Peter Quill's ability to do the thing that needs to be done regardless of the personal ramifications. MCU Starlord ain't that hero.
exactly
Bill Taylor that too
Marc. You're a writer, Quill fucking it up, was probably glimpsed by Strange in his 'vision'.
We're dealing with time travel and relativity, what happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way.
Facts and common sense.
Juken The Bold "We're dealing with time travel and relativity, what happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way." This comment makes no sense. We've already seen time travel and time loops, can you really throw out a "relativity" angle when someone has already been able to rewind time and change things multiple times? How is that "what happened, happened"? Also, if that was true, Dr. Strange should only see one version of the future. Anything else would be impossible, because, as you said, it "couldn't have happened any other way."
I don’t think I would have lasted through that marathon. Well done!
Good stuff. Also, I couldn’t take my eyes off that shirt, as it seemingly spells out “EATING ****”, throughout the video. Made me lol a few times. Thanks guys.
Peter Quill never cared about the Gauntlet. It never even entered into his reasoning. Regardless of whether you bought his relationship with Gamora, he never indicated he had any interest in doing anything other than saving her.
People also seem to forget that Starlord loves unconditionally and with passion. He reacted to Thanos the same way he reacted when he realized Ego killed his Mom. His love is not only about the sexual love when it comes to his team and family. They didn't need to sell him being in sexual or romantic love with Gamora to react the way he did. It was established he had romantic feelings as well, but he already loved her as a compatriot. That was clearly established throughout Gaurdians 1+2. And that's what matters. I completely buy his "love" for Gamora in that way.
And to be fair Tony would have reacted the same way had Thanos killed Pepper. It's not only Starlord that would do that.
I don't see the issue with Starlords reaction, other than it being a typical trope to set's up the "close but no cigar" moment that always comes as the heroes are about to defeat the enemy but inevitably fail for some reason or another.
As far as pointing to the very moments you, as a viewer, opine over? Those "turning points", where bad choices were made by characters, such as "Not killing Vision right off the bat", or "If Starlord didn't react that way he did" then they would have stopped Thanos. Those are quite myopic detraction's in my opinion, simply because you have the the luxury of foresight as a viewer. It's real easy to make fictional decisions for fictional characters using your own hindsight within or without the context of the full story. You seem to think all the characters should have already known what to do and to have reacted to all threats logically and without prejudice like you as a viewer are able to do. As though the characters can or should be aware of every consequence that their actions may spur. Whatever your opinions on said "turning points" may be, If you follow the narrative of the entire movie, there was never an outcome that would have stopped Thanos getting the stones anyway. It was said so in so many ways. That then arguably shows, that had they destroyed Vision as you proposed, or had they gotten the glove off, Thanos was still going to succeed. Speculation? Absolutely! But If you're going to use , "what if's?" or "why didn't they?" to critique the narrative, you can safely assume your critiques are mere speculation as well. You have to apply the overall narrative to those critical 'turning points" upon the movie's conclusion.
And that narrative was solidified by the only character who had that knowledge of foresight (much like you the viewer). That was Dr. Strange. And according to Dr. Strange's mediation of future outcomes, everything that happened does so in order to obtain their only positive outcome. That 1 good future in 14 million possible futures. And thus makes any and all decisions made by the characters, good, bad, or otherwise absolutely plausible and arguably necessary. In a lesser coherent story those so called "turning points" would and could be construed negatively as you felt they were. I simply disagree with your discontent over the characters and turning points in this movie. They were certainly fitting in the context of the story. Imposing your hindsight and logic upon the characters seems unnecessary.
The movie's narrative was always, Thanos wins and the Heroes's lose this battle, no matter what they did.
Does nobody had troubles to follow the action scenes on wakanda? Because in 3d with the shaky cam it was really tough to watch.
Agreed, it was not made clear enough the strength of their love. It was a large stretch that he'd lose his mind over her death AFTER he was the faction that came up with this perfect plan.
66justariot he went from thinking he could save her to him confining out she was dead. He acted like peter quill would act. In the end it doesn't matter anyway.
Nah, I always saw Starlord's thing with Gamora as an extension of his immaturity and shitty masculinity. He's got a real chip on his shoulder about so much, and it's part of the reason why the two of them haven't - and probably won't - actually get together. Thing is, from his standpoint it's still devastating emotional terrain BECAUSE he's some immature dude. It's entirely in-character for him to flip out at the expense of the bigger picture because that's who he is.
hollandscottthomas yes and the same trait of character (immaturity of Star Lord) is what made them win in guardian vol 1 is what made them lose in avengers 3 ? Or I read too much in it? 🤔
Pretty much, yeah. It's definitely something that's been fairly successful for him in the past so why would he address it or change his behaviour?
I agree. Mark on his own shows what Kevin brings. It's always been about Starlord being immature but actually loving Gamora. I think Mark misses it.
And about the hand cutting, then it would have been easy in Infinity Gauntlet. I don't know but I find Mark really missed things that have indeed been laid down for a while now. None more than in Guardians 2 which was all about relationships and how much they mean to each other. I really don't agree with this argument that we don't have an emotional tie-in or that character motivations don't make sense.
He seems to have forgotten how Starlord loves to save his own skin until he meets Gamora and basically sacrifices his life in Guardians 1 in the cold vastness of space giving her the mask and just hoping Yondu could/would find them. I think Mark missed the Mark (lol)
'They should have killed Vision to save half the universe.'
Dude, the Joker would have won if your ass had the detonator. The stone was in the second best place it could possibly be: in the head of a weaponized robot, housing the ai that singlehandedly saved the world from nuclear annihilation via Ultron, and noble enough to carry Thor's hammer. You'd be a bigger heel than Brock after Wrestlemania 30 if you killed Vision. Cap was right, everyone should fight to live, not capitulate to fear. This is the theme of like half the movies.
Alex Miles stupid! In a real situation you kill the few to save the many. Stop thinking like a child and grow up.
Dude, he still had five other gems. Do you think he still couldn't wipe out the galaxy without the mind gem? Even in this instance, they fought until the very last moment where destroying the gem could maybe buy them more time. Again, the gem was in the right place. I fail to see what I've said is stupid or childish.
I think people aren’t REALLY considering Dr. Strange’s words, “It was the only way.”
Vision’s Mind Stone is destroyed? Thanos still gets the other five stones, reverts Time, and gets the last gem.
Strange destroys the Time Stone? Thanos still has Billions or backup troops (as implied) and just goes ‘round the hard way, and kills Earth’s quota in a bloody bloody war of attrition.
Stop or kill Peter Quill to stop his rash action? This causes Mantis and Drax to falter from their key roles, and Thanos still breaks free and wins. Further, I think Peter’s words to Thanos may have a future impact about the cost of this that might play out in Avengers 4. I think Strange’s 14 million precog jumps may have accounted for ALL these things, and Thanos’ win is inevitable - but for the ONE way in which both Thanos gets the Time Stone and kills Vision, and the end game was see in AV4.
I agree, queenansrevenge. I also think the point of sacrificing Vision was moot when Thanos got the Time Stone, I'm just totally surprised at how people even come up with the idea to kill Vision without even giving him or his friends a chance to fight for his life. They'd think twice if Vision was substituted for a loved one, and fighting against all odds to protect life is a fundamental idea that's present in a lot of superhero movies. Get The Walking Dead out of my Marvel/DC is what I'm saying, not everyone wants to play Renegade Shepard.
I don't think Strange could blow up the Time Stone; I think the only reason why destroying the Mind Stone was a possibility was because Scarlet Witches' powers were derived from the stone, because why didn't anyone else think to blow up their own stones, or why didn't they send the Witch out to blow them all up one by one? Fuck, why not arm up with the stones to fight Thanos. Again, all the gems except Time and Mind were just sitting there, waiting to be taken, as far as I remember.
And in literally every scene of Infinity War that theme of "trading lives" is playing out differently each time, some with major consequences and failures, but everyone who seems to make the choice of trading a life seems to end badly... we'll have to wait to see if Dr. Strange's choice pays off
14,000,000+ You're not covering anything Dr. Strange, missed. Severing the hand could have lead to someone using it to kill entire cosmos.
If they had gotten the gauntlet off he'd have just whipped them again and taken it back. Strange didn't tell Tony his plan because he and Thanos are connected, it had to play out the way it did, so Tony would believe.
Sever the hand, I mean if a guy has a sword do you sever the hand, if he has a gun do you sever his hand. Not that simple if you miss his hand your dead. Police won't shoot the gun out of your hand because if you miss your dead. You aim for center mass to take the threat down which is what Thor did.
Or if you actually HIT the stones, what would happen when a weapon forged from the universe hits something that is a key part of the universe? Matter/anti-matter maybe? Could have done almost ANYTHING! Wipe out all life, destroy space/time, warp reality
Too bad Kevin is not in this. I bet he has gone through a million tissues during this movie!!! lol Just to be clear crying his eyes out not.... well maybe that too? lol
TOTALLY "that" too!
Lol he probably needed to travel to dubai just to finally dry his eyes out after a week of uncontrollable pure joy weeping.
I like when they do solo reviews. I love Kevin but Marc gives a good honest review. I love Kevin but I don't trust his reviews. His suicide squad review brought to my attention that Kevin will review something and sing it's praises. Then anytime he talks about that same movie later he got a different opinion. His excitement after seeing a movie clouds his ability to honestly review it
His review is on Facebook. It's a lot more enjoyable than Marc's.
Henk V Facebook live yesterday mate. On his page he reviewed it
After Marc's Iron Fist review I almost didn't give him a chance, but I did. Good review, good points on the movie
Marc doesnt remember the guardians movies all that well... take a look At vol2... quill is insane for the ones he loves... also in btwn vol 2 and inf war YEARS have passed
Aaawww was really lookign forward to YO AND Kevin going through this!
29 hours, man that was hard core! I could barely do that in the comfort of my own home with snacks drinks but a few steps away from my big screen TV. You are a trooper!
You where like Captain America, *I could do this all Day*
When Kev and Marc are together to talk about this, I really hope it will be one time Kev doesn't just roll over for all Marc's points. This is a smart guy and obviously a writer, but his views on so many of these movies are frustratingly inaccurate and if there ever were a movie for Kevin to stand up for and defend, it's this one.
If Thanos has unlimited power with the gauntlet can he not just replenish the universe with more resources?
Joey Murillo yeah that was kind of dumb...don't think too much about time travel and infinity gems powers 😂
Joey Murillo that more energy in the universe will throw the universe out of balance.
those resources were there before and the universe was fine
Then he would have to make the universe bigger because the population would keep growing.
Yes, if he was not Thanos then he could do that.
Thaana solution before his home planet died was for half the people to die.
Then then a solution when he had more power but not the infinity stone for decades was to kill half the population. And he saw what he viewed as good results from this solution.
And when he got the Infinity Stones collected, it would have violated his character and then a complete left turn to suddenly create a bunch of resources.
However, to even casual thought both his solution and creating more resources would not solve the problem of geometric growth.
On Earth, we have managed to keep ahead of the food issue but we are not keeping up with the pollution issue and we are not keeping up with the finite resources issue.
For example, we are going to run out of chromium before some people who are alive die.
That will mean no more stainless steel. We are similarly running out of any other metals of which there is a finite amount in the crust of the Earth and the cost of mining them in space is prohibitive.
When we run out of them, many medicines and technologies will no longer be useful. We will have to invent replacements for many things at about the same time and 50 to 75 years.
Also, ignoring global warming, which is about CO2 and methane pollution, we are approaching the limit to how much energy each human can use each year. The Earth can only radiate so much heat into space. All energy used turns into waste Heat. If energy use simply continues to grow at the rate it has since the 1600s, the temperature of the Earth would pass the boiling point of water in about 450 years.
If the population suddenly dropped to a billion people and we did not lose civilization, the limits to growth would not be an issue again for a couple of hundred years.
On the other hand, cutting the population in half would only buy us 15 to 45 years.
These guys put videos out still?
Kevin makes me feel happy; Marc makes me think more deeply about what takes up so much of my entertainment. Being happy is important; asking larger questions in order to better think about my experience of existence is more long term fulfilling.
Thanks to both of you, but can we PLEASE see more Marc culture/history breakdowns... if he has the time?
Makes your nipples bleed?
Aaron Siewert he is referring to the word marathon, when people run marathons because of the running friction with there shirt can cause your nipples to bleed.
Marathon runners wear bandaids over their nipples because their shirt sands their nipples off
First I’ve ever heard of Marathon runners having such a problem.
Aaron Siewert bust out the tissues
Don't feel bad, we don't blame you for not being privy to the idiosyncrasies of long-distance athleticism. It's a fairly niche bit of trivia.
as SOON as a digital copy of *Infinity War* is out you can bet i’m editing in “Kashmir” (Led Zeppelin) when Thor lands with Stormbreaker on Wakanda.
Does anyone here know when the next proper episode of Fatman on Batman will be? I know Marc mentioned they'd be together on the 13th but I assume that meant for a con appearance or something. I'd love to see these guys at least talk about what they thought, for a few minutes together. Especially since 80% of Kev's review for this movie, was just doing a breakdown of the plot. Miss you guys together!!!
Always love your option good takes I see were you coming from thanks for the knowledge
I like you Marc, but, no Kevin?, specially on this movie... ive been waiting for days for your review... its sad
tolahostia redlettermedia is the way to go sir
i enjoy both
Aleph Null yea me 2 but rlm is way better
For example, this review sucked, rlm was damn good
Kevin Smith doing Live on Facebook right now with an Avenger´s review, maybe he read those comments hehehehehe
Avengers Infinity War left me traumatized similar to how Morty was in that episode when Rick and Morty had to leave their reality into another one and burry their bodies.
xMAJINKHANx and like the end of the episodes of "evil morty" 😂😂
Thanks Marc. Love the show. Sure, we miss Kev, but hope he's happy, doing well with his life and family, but its always great to hear your perspective on this huge, massive movie. Please share more videos even if Kev isn't around.
You don’t have to be in an intense relationship with a person to feel a tremendous loss and pain when they are murdered. It was established in the first movie that Quill has moved from one woman to another, never settling down as a consequence of him losing his mother at such a young age and then being whisked away before he could say goodbye. The fact that he saw his mother when Gamora was reaching out to him at the end of the first movie shows him that he feels differently with her... this is expanded greatly in the second movie
Not just a Marvel movie, but a product that hasn't insulted the fan base.
anthony cheesman even so though... They took different versions of captain. He's got strong morals, fights for what he believes in, he genuinely cares about everybody on this team even the ones he doesn't like.... i mean idk, I feel like the nailed the foundation of what Captain America actually is. What do you think?
Cap was under-served in IW, but it was about Thanos in the end. However, Cap got one of the biggest cheers in the audience; as did Thor.
A Fanbase that cant be insulted. They swallow and accept everything they get served.
Wade Wilson yeah, what they serve is great. I ate that shit up. Just wish DC would have given me a reacharound while I watched it since I've shelled out cash for every one of their films with Hope's they will be good and have been disappointed every time since nolan's. Hell, wonder woman was just a remake of captain America the first avenger. Quit hating a fantastic movie
mike sullivan Hey, I liked Infinity war its a nice Movie entertaining movie but only if you turn your brain of and forget the build up. Its has so many flaws and errors, and so many stuff makes no sense its basically the BvS of the MCU. I dont know why people always need to bring up DC when someone criticises the MCU like it makes the MCU better when they discredit DC. But if DC would have dropped a Movie with that inconsistency people would have shred it into pieces.
The reason they didn't kill Vision instantly is ultimately hubris. Let's be honest, they thought they would win this war against Thanos and didn't want to kill their friend prematurely. If they'd had just a little bit of time, Shuri would have succeeded, but, time wasn't on their side.
Exactly , it goes against how they operate.
I agree. That's one problem I have when people suggest this. These people are heroes, and Vision is someone who has fought by their side for years (at this point), has saved the world with them, and has become human for the most part. It makes no sense for them to kill him for the greater good.
Think about it this way: if the Mind stone was attached to Tony Stark's head, would it make sense to kill him in order to destroy it? No, it wouldn't.
Besides, like you said, they thought they would win, because they always win even against seemingly impossible odds. It wasn't until the very last possible moment that they decided to go through with it. Unfortunately, they didn't realize that they were already out of time to do that.
Well I'd have to disagree with any point mentioned after Thanos having the time stone. he's pretty much close to invincible with that cuz he is present thru out all of time or can just repeat situations. (and the whole method of ridding Thanos the gauntlet and stones felt warded by plot armor tbh)
I honestly wasn't sold on the Gamora + Thanos relationship being the way to get the soul stone.
Breaking off any limits would probably be a solution for our heroes, but not for Thanos b/c he would have just wrecked everyone like he did to the Guardians on Knowhere or cuz have just grabbed Vision and teleported out of the battle.
Everything was manageable in terms combating Thanos in the early scenes. Still pissed the Hulk apparently got scared b/c for a monster/being based on rage and is OP at some point.... it doesn't make sense that he'd stay on the sidelines esp against small creatures which i assume the Hulk would just destroy.
Honestly the moment Dr Strange looked thru all the timelines and talked about Endgame with Iron Man... it feels like we're being led to the moments that shall potentially occur in the next Avengers film
In terms of building up relationships for certain people, I def agree. Not enough for people to really feel invested to be like "I can understand how this situation can happen considering their relationship"
I enjoyed this movie. I had time to wiki/google whatever info i felt important to have.
But for the average person who isn't into comics/superhero movies, the homework that might have needed to be done doesn't feel justifiable.
tl;dr
Some relationships I wasn't sold on, Hulk bitched out which makes no sense, Dr Strange is really hoping that 1/~14,000,000 will work, time was on no one's side for developing certain parts/scenes, and this was a fun movie despite my complaints.
5 stars. Best review I've seen so far. this is how I've wanted to talk to my friends about the flick, but I keep getting sidetracked a minute into the conversations saying "OH YEAH! THIS PART WAS SOOOO DOPE TOO!:
Marc, you need a psych evaluation more than a medal for doing the mad-rathon.
Feels exactly the same re: Quill and Gamora's relationship.
I want Kevin's review....let him talk about the whole movie....
Cross you mean summarize every scene like he does XD
The portals don't just "cut people"...they appear in front (or behind or whatever) of the person but not in the same space, so they couldn't just create a portal to cut his hand, unless they could force Thanos to put his hand through the portal...and considering they needed everyone to just hold him still for 5seconds, and he was still putting up a fight, I'm guessing the severing the hand part would be tricky.
Thanks Marc, love your review/opinions/thoughts/etc...
Keep it coming man.
WTF this isnt the first half of a play. Its a complete story just like every other MCU movie only this time the villian won. Come on Marc.........
We want kevin smiths review.
OpinionsGetYouBanned we want all the reviews
Kev did one on his fb page lol
My thought about the whole "We know that there's another set of movies so we know they're coming back":
Something I thought when walking out the theater is that all the characters "snapped away" were characters that we expected to come back (sans Winter Soldier) and those who remained were the ones we expected to die. I think they might pull off a sort of switcheroo where those snapped away were sent to a parallel universe and we follow them there. Basically, the ones who were snapped were the ones who were actually spared and the ones who are left are left in hell. It's a stupid thought, but I'm certain there's some sort of in-universe explanation that could be used.
Marc, heeeeeyyy, hoooooo! 😊🤜 All good! I'll watch you and Kevin's review again anyway.
Regarding the "take the hand" stuff, I wonder if they kinda gave a nod to that when Thanos said Thor should have took his head? Either way, amazing looking movie with breath taking visuals! I too was kinda bummed that Shuri didn't get more screen time, but I can understand how hard it must be to get that many people into the story in less than 3 hours at all. Probably explains why Hawkeye was left out?
You finally upload this and its without kev!?!?!
Serprizebuttsecks hey relax in this timeline Kev is still alive he will be back
Dude you are way off...go read infinity gauntlet so Thanos snaps his fingers and half disappear and then they come back because someone else uses the infinity gauntlet
I don't know why you are ranting and tripping this is the best movie ever
It's epic
You just blah blah blah gibberish
You don't love it fine and the tragedy of the Marvel universe?
Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha
You know that all these movies are about super heroes? That kind of tells you that you are supposed to suspend disbelief
I don't get people who bug out like this
Marvel have done something amazing
Who could imagine that we get to see so many super heroes and interacting
Guardians of the Galaxy hanging out with Avengers man can't wait to see fantastic 4 and X-Men with the Avengers and guardian of the Galaxy hanging out trying to save the universe
This is an epic movie and hit so many moments comedy drama tragedy action and etc etc
Beautiful and fantastic and spectacular
Maybe they can't cut off the hand because the magic off the glove won't allow it
Marc, you’re a trooper man!! 32 hrs of marvel goodness idk if I could do that....maybe! When the next avengers movie comes out.
I want Kevin’s review. You hate everything.
Vladimir Otero What timecode does he say he hates it? I must've missed that part.
Vladimir Otero He mentioned numerous times that he liked the movie and was amazed the directors were able to pull off such a feat. He never once said he hated anything in the movie, just that some things bothered him.
I tried 12 min and I quit. Horrible. KEVIN!!!!
julie youngberg “horrible”?!? Good god get over yourself. Its just one mans opinion
robnor101 practice what you preach. Your comment contradicts itself.
The pairing of Thor and Rocket and Groot was a master stroke, loved all their parts.
Sweet rabbit!
Marc, you're good at making a solid podcast in one take.
Where's Kevin... This man is the worst lol sheesh
I have to say I disagree with alot of things you say. You talk about your own opinion as if it's fact and that's how everyone takes it. You are very wrong sir. I can't even stand listening to you anymore without kevin there to counter your opinions and bring some positivity and good comic fan feedback. You are boring mark!
plus one
Started choking up (again) when you brought up Peters lines to Tony. I know who ever dies is coming back, but damn. Thanks Marc you an Kev rule.
"We were all raised on the death of Spock, and then the immediate resurrection of Spock" - Marc Bernardin: this so rings with my Cinema going Experience as first Movie memories I have are of a double feature of Star Trek 2 and 3 at the drive in... Thank you for blowing my mind and contextualizing some things I hadn't been able to fully process in the days after seeing this film for the first time.
Hey did you notice that the people who dissappeared were the ones that in one way or another were related somehow to the infinity stones?
Also those that faded away didn't go to heaven, they were trapped in the soul stone, it's hinted a bit by Thanos going to that weird place where young Gamora was there alone as she was the first and at that point only soul to be dispatched to the soul stone. I could be wrong though.
10:52 I felt the same way until I re-watched Guardians Vol. 2 tonight. It has a lot of IW setup. Quill and Gamora finally understand each other after Yondu's funeral. It's a quick moment and easy to miss. Quill also literally unloads on his own Father the moment he finds out that Ego put the tumor in his mother's head. This is the basis for his reaction to Thanos. He's hot-headed and wears his heart on his sleeve. It makes sense that he would've reacted that way.
You're a champ for doing this. I love the MCU but could never marathon it like this
I think vison will be fixed but retain that blank color he turned when he died... kinda like how he was sometimes in the comics when he turned white...
The best quote if the movie is "You should have gone for my head." SNAP!
Also side note its a throw away line , but Thanos says something about he's not really "killing" with the gauntlet anyone as much as making it so they never existed or that they just no longer exist. It's the technicality that still allows for death to have meaning (pre-Snap), and you get the post Snap characters back since they never really "died".
Where is Kevin’s Infinity War review?
This has a slow burn but wait for it.
I never thought about the portal thing lol
It's because of Quill's history of either being alone or having those around him die. His mother, how Ego turned out, Yondu, the first Groot and now Gamora. He clearly can't hold it together.
So excited. Y’all are the best. Keep living
To Marc Bernardin, the way I've been looking at the "failure," of Peter Quill, when dealing with Thanos, is this had been his terminal weakness from the beginning. In Vol 1, Peter storms out of the hospital, in rage, after his mother dies form cancer. In Vol 2, Peter discovers his father, Ego, killed his mother, by giving her cancer, and goes into a murderous rage which almost endangers a mission and the Guardians. (That last part was from memory and may be faulty) I think Star Lord's reaction to discovering Gamora's death, through the hands of Thanos, is consistent with his story arch, and hopefully it will be the inciting incident for him to get rid of this fatal character flaw. Another way of looking at it, which I just came up with, is Gamora wasn't the love of his life, like he hoped, but his rage was underlining how miserably he failed his promise to kill her if she was ever captured. I don't think Thanos having stopped him via use of the reality stone matters to Quill. I don't know if I'm right, but maybe these perspectives will help you sort things out and then you can put me right.
Regarding Peter Quill's relationship with Gamora, I think it's a bit more complex than that and his reaction is not tied just to his feelings for her, but also with what happened between them in this movie. Even if he didn't "love" her, she was part of his weird space family and he had to try and fullfil his promise and kill her so Thanos wouldn't take her. Can you imagine what he felt when his gun didn't work? I'd feel despair, but also relief. And then later have not only that relief taken away, but also have the culmination of your despair and the fact that your failure lead to her death meaning nothing... it's got to hurt and Peter is not the guy to hold it in. He says "you didn't have to kill her" and this is not a movie that would waste time with meaningless words.
I feel you buddy, i did the samething with the Nerdist Age of Ultron in 2015. I took naps during Iron man 3 and Thor 2
You also could create the theory that the de-limb-ification, as it were, is sort of a visual theme to go along with severing ties, or in the case of 'halves', half of the universe gets annihilated. Even on a meta-type level this story can work. Maybe I have my nostalgia/suspension-of-disbelief goggles on, but I think this is a wholly brilliant and well-written film.
We didn’t get the full marathon here in Utah which sucks so I tried to do my own marathon with all I had on Amazon.
Good seeing you at the Screen Junkies event.
SD3_MovieFanobi cool
I've been waiting on this all week!
Wow....I can't believe I STILL had to be hear to a Kevin Smith phallic joke/reference....
There is a 3 year jump from the end of Guardians 2 and Infinity War. James Gunn himself said so, this is why Groot is a teen now. So it’s likely Gamora and Peter have been a couple for 3 years so it’s very plausible they have the type of relationship where he would flip like that considering what we’ve seen them go through.
Didn't they say that Infinity War took place like 4 years after Guardians 2? That's why Groot has grown so much and with Gamora acknowledging that "unspoken thing" at the end of Vol 2 they could have started a more than friends relationship.
Peter's reaction to Gamora's death makes a lot more sense when you think about everything that has happened to him. Star Lord is a man who as a child suffered the traumatic loss of his mother and never went back to Earth because he was so wounded by it. He was essentially raised by space pirates and never really grew up. Even though it's fair to say that Peter and Gamora's relationship never got to that deep place, her death probably brought him right back to his mother's death. He lost another woman in his life and he reacted as a child does. Badly.