6 Sword ‘Theories’ DEBUNKED!
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Who else thought the farming implements bit was leading up to "So that's why nunchuks are great!" and Shad's head exploding? Just me?
Feels like a missed opportunity.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 I'm not sure Shad could take that kind of trauma so early in Ant's tenure. ^_^
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 'a missed opportunity' is what we call the target of a nunchuku attack.
I still think the nunchaku's power lies in hitting beyond the defense.
@@CyberChrist I think that's the advantage that chain/rope weapons have by bypassing shields and unarmed areas. Not much damage, but still hitting "weak points."
And thus a new Shadiversity arc behinds: Ant's journey
Honestly, this is a pretty great idea, teach the young one step by step and make it a series of sorts to have a straightforward introduction for newbies to the hobby
Yeah I dig this idea, especially as someone looking into getting my first long sword soon(once it’s in stock)
Agreed
@@Totsy30what long sword are you looking at getting? I have also been wanting g to get one recently but haven’t found one I love yet
I think you meant to say "a new Shadiversity arc begins", not "a new Shadiversity arc behinds".
@@elusiveflame7786 Right now I’m set on the Balaur Arms Italian Longsword standard grade from Kult of Athena, but it is back ordered. Before that I was considering the Tinker Pearce Sharpened longsword. I really like how pointy those two are.
So many eye rolls. Biggest one was: "So that's a pommel... like a pommel-ranian?" 😂
Fun Fact: Pommelranians were bred to chase and retrieve pommels after you've ended your opponents rightly.
@@YouTubalcaine Blade and Sorcery?
Sure.
New squire arrived. Time to train him in the basics about real swords.
But not reel-swords. Those are silly.
I mean, Anthony's not wrong...
They *are* all single-bladed 😂
Some of the others are single edged on both sides!
That "20 bucks sword" looks like a giant letter opener lol
I don’t think he found in a trolls hoard though
Nah, not sharp enough to open letters.
It's a wall hanger.
did he mime say $2000 bruhhh
The power of 20 bucks in the palm of my hand.. 😮
On the subject of a novice picking up a sword and just sort of figuring things out is pretty valid. While I've never had any formal training outside of a single lesson taken for fun years ago, I grew up swinging around sticks and poles and toy lightsabers and eventually wooden training swords and instead of just blindly swinging it around, I tried figuring out what felt practical and useful. The more I did it the more I picked up on some techniques. Flash forward several years and I was watching a Skallagrim video about different guard stances and I was pleasantly surprised to see that I had intuitively picked up on a few of them on my own. Obviously having proper instruction would be better, but it's still amazing how a total inexperienced novice can pick something up and just intuitively figure out a way to make something work without formal training.
I have a similar story but I don’t practice cus I’m afraid of hitting my cat I have a fake sword but still also impossible to find foam swords that aren’t expensive my childhood hurts lol
i like that hes an "everyman" charactor and makes it easier to explain to a wider audience
Where does a myth buster sleep?
In debunk bed.
There's a Greek myth about a stream whose water will attach itself to your skin for all eternity.
The river sticks.
I once tried to create a comedy routine based on the myth of Orpheus.
Looking back, it was a bad idea.
A Roman Legionnaire walks into a bar and says "I'd like a martinus."
The bartender asks, "Don't you mean a martini?"
The Legionnaire replies: "No, I only want one."
the Orpheus one was hilarious
God damn you...
👏
@@elios7623
I had to have it explained to me....
That last one really got me lol
Wow i’ve never seen a video pop up in my feed under a minute old, i think that means youtube is recommending you more correctly.
Same
Yup same, hopefully we'll get more recommendations
Yeah, TH-cam doesn't like Shad's channel......because why again?
Same here!
@@ItIsYouAreNotYourThey're not fans of weapons. Gun channels have been getting dumped on for years.
I love how this is "How To Raise Shad's Blood Pressure By Ten Points 101."
Or how to raise Metatron’s blood pressure by 50 points
Disagreeing with him on anything makes his blood boil, because he believes every word he says is the absolute truth.
He made an entire video shitting on Elden Ring's world-building, because he is too lazy to pay attention to dialogues or read item descriptions.
He believes that Elden Ring's widely beloved storytelling style is "objectively flawed" just because he prefers more direct storytelling.
He got a lot of negative feedback on his opinions, and then he made another video doubling down on the idea that he is better at storytelling than From Software...
Then he got hostile in the comments because people dared to disagree with him. To think people got mad at him for wanting every game's story to be told in the same way. He could not comprehend that...
Don’t worry Shad, it’s a rite of passage for every sword collector to overpay for a wallhanger.
*glares at my own lying in the corner*
I had about a dozen garbage wall hangers when I started
Exactly. I overpayed for a "King Arthur" esque wallhanger with a plaque to hang it on. The blade was decent but the hilt was crap and not well-constructed and became unstable quite fast. I also overpayed a bit for a greatsword/claymore type because I used to be obsessed with greatswords, largely because of my obsession with the Elder Scrolls games. 🤣🥰
Dang, 30 seconds at the top of the recommended section? Is the algorithm being friendly to Shad again?
Probably not. But I'm still happy to see it!
nono it's happening to me too now last time i saw his vids were more than 6 months ago and then i got 2 vids recommended now
Clearly, Nate was the problem.
It probably is. I got faster notifications about videos from other channels that have been having similar trouble.
I’m guessing something got tweaked I;the algorithms.
@@markfergerson2145 We are all subscribers though, presumably. We still don't know if his new videos are being suggested to new watchers by the algorithm, which was still a major problem according to his last update.
Welcome aboard, Anthony! Glad to have you.
So I watched Crocodile Dundee and I was under the impression that Aussies had really big knives but it seems they lost that game to the Germans!
"Blood Grooves". I can already hear Sir Jason Kingsley groaning about it.😂
I love partially scripted videos, that line with the martial arts was so good that he broke character for a bit.
Watching this as I have my Zwiehander sitting on my lap 🥰
Yeah, Shadiversity videos have that effect on me too.
Watching in my gamebeson and brand new chainmail... totally unrelated reason.
Funny I’m sitting with my katzbalger lol
Damn that’s badass 🤘
Zwie did you do that??
*grins*
So if someone pulls a knife on you, you can say, "That's not a knife," pull out a kriegsmesser, and say, "THAT's a knife!" I couldn't resist, lol.
i was half expecting Anthony to say *"that's* a knoife!"
DAS IST EIN MESSER
-Greetings from Germany
@@MrShrog Guten abend.
I used to learn German in middle school. I'm VERY rusty with its grammar, but i do remember quite a few things.
@@jacktheomnithere2127 Guten Abend die auch,
Great to see someone with a little experience with the German language
@@MrShrog emphasis on "little". becuase i didn't understand "die auch".
Long live this channel! Love and light to you and yours, Shad! That includes the whole of your team!
We’re here for it! ❤
This was a really good video. It greatly summarizes most of the misconceptions around medieval weapons and combat. Most of these points were already covered in previous videos, but this video explains this very well. Thank you for the video
Very curious to learn about the new squire, given the criteria you listed in your call for a third host a while back.
Another good video. Good refresher on some the material I joined this channel for long ago.
Shad: Do you know how to use that thing?
Anthony: Sure. The pointy end goes in the other man.
Welcome, Ant! Glad to see a newcomer on the channel and looking forward to seeing his medieval knowledge grow.
Well now I have a quick way to show anyone saying wrong stuff about swords that they're the ones wrong :)
Any plans for an "uncommon country swords showcase"? Swords from countries outside of Europe and Japan. To show the blades from other regions of the world.
Well, you're mostly gonna end up with India/China at that point in terms of major design families
And maybe Indonesia if you're particularly cultured.
The Machete perhaps
The Falx
How about the Nepalese 'khadga' (also called 'khoda'): ~24 inch blade, forward curve, heavy. Sluggish but excellent for beheadings and dismemberments.
That was a cool episode. Welcome, Ant!
I like him
Ant is like the new guy, got the new guy perspective to the topics.
I'm so glad that your channel is still creating content.
Good to see Shadiversity appearing at the top of the list again suddenly.
Congratulations and welcome Anthony. Hope you enjoy yourself in the shadlands.
“This thing is really sharp. I think I want to go on a crusade. I wanna fight! I want to use this sword!…..” a natural progression of holding a real sword 🗡️😂
Welcome, Ant, glad to have you on board! ^^
Hello Anthony, I hope you have a great time with the rest of the guys on Shadiversity.
Your channel is my favourite. It has the spirit of what makes swords and fantasy fun.
Shad: Who told you swords were not sharp?!
Ant: YOU told me to say it for the video.
Great seeing a newcomer who's learning, so the rest of us can learn with him.
Shad video in my recommended feed in less than 20 minutes
Nature is healing.
When Ant said the katana could cut through anything, I thought Shad's head might explode. Glad that it did not.
Shad has heard that so many times he’s become immune to
Knew a guy who claimed to be a history buff and was adamant that swords where heavy, 20lbs or more. Even with all the historical evidence that contradicted his claims.
some bearing swords, maybe
Great entertaining video shad and would be quite informative for those unfamiliar with swords!
This video should have been called "Well Ak-shu-all-ee..."
5:09 so, my uncle had one of these wall-hangers for probably 30years at this point. And let me tell you, for a wall-hanger that thing was built like a tank. My uncle is 2.05 meter tall, 130kg and he used that sword for performance fighting at medieval festivals where he would fight with some friends in full armor, and they were going at it. The blade is nicked all along the edge from clashing with other swords, but despite that the hilt doesn't have the slightest rattling whatsoever and the balde is still straight.
So it's a wall-hanger, it's stupidly heavy and big, but man you can hit stuff with it and it will take it like an absolute unit...
Sword shaped metal pipe
So what you're saying is, it's not a wallhanger but a sparring/stage fighting implement.
A wallhanger is typically made from cheap stainless steel (which isn't springy and will break under the conditions you describe - dangerous) and has a hilt held together by lots of glue due to lose tolerances (allowing the use of cheap, machined parts requiring minimal fitting) which would have broken apart after a few days of hard use.
@@Kr0noZ no I think it is intended as a wall hanger, but the build quality of these was just way better 30+ years ago. Maybe it was indeed made with stage fighting in mind but I doubt it, it's so heavy and long you need to be a super big guy like my uncle to to able to swing it around like it's a sword and not a tree trunk.
Might have been made by Del Tin or a similar company that makes overbuilt blunt swords exactly for this purpose
This was a fantastic video and Ant was great to have along the ride!
I am a prophet and I prophecise that your channel will become very popular once again within this decade.
Even if my prophecy doesn't come true, please don't stop making videos! There's still a lot of us that love what you make, even if it was just a thousand views, that's a thousand souls that enjoyed what you made!!
This was a great video revisiting classic erroneous sword claims. I loved the transitions from each explanation to a new gaff.👍
I am busy for a few days and come back to this spectacular video. Nice one lads
Part 2! Seeing these things gone over with someone with no prior knowledge who is trying to intuit it is insightful.
Wow, thanks for this one! Probably a classic on this channel right away.
Ant has a lot of charm. have him on more please :p
Kinda epic NPC man vibes
"Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaah Epic NPC Maaaaaaaan"
Shad: “We’re not replacing Nate, it’ll be a long time before we get a new guy here.”
*two episodes later*
Shad: “So we’ve got this new guy, Ant.”
Welcome aboard Ant!
They must of reaaaallly like the guy. Shad did not want to get a replacement lol
Blood Grooves is a sick name for a funk metal band
Good name for your local gang as well.
Or a record company
This is a brilliant idea.
Jazz band that moonlights as mercenaries?
20:24: Not exactly a “technique”, but Pigsy from Journey to the West (the most famous classic Chinese novel) uses a rake as his primary weapon throughout the series. So definitely a lot of Asian martial arts were developed from farming weapons.
Right to bear arms definitely is more a Western thing, which is unfortunately lost in many modern European countries.
Europe really do need a rewind button.
A good... 30-40 years or so
Maybe more
@@1stCallipostle One of the big reasons I love living in America rather than in China is because of the 2nd Amendment.
previously on on Shadiversity: "were accepting applications for a new co-host. it won't be for a while and were looking for someone with advanced experience and knowledge on a broad range of medieval weapons."
Shadiversity: "so this is Ant. he's never held a sword in his life, in fact were going to make fun of how little he knows."
jokes aside, glad things are still running over there
Welcome to Anthony. I've never heard the phrase "well, actually" so often in a single video. Well done playing the foil.
Skall’s videos are probably the only ones that have a chance pf saying it more
Thanks for the informative video.
Few small details I would have liked to see:
1. Put the written names of things like a ? fuller ? on screen. It will help people, especially non native English speakers.
2. If you talk about something like an i beam show a picture of it for people who don't know what it is. I had no idea, so that whole part was lost on me.
Just when I found myself wanting for actual historical references you mentioned the split heads on the battlefield. Good. Don't just try to be entertainers but also credible educators! That's why I started watching this channel in the first place.
The more historical references the better.
Your channel has loads of value unlike Zuckerberg's algorithm
We'll miss Nate, but welcome aboard Anthony!
Welcome to Shadiversity Ant. Great video I might have to bust out the jin later and do some steps.
I'm not a Medieval/Renaissance expert or in HEMA/LARP. But even I knew long before I subscribed to here years ago, that the middle of a sword blade is called a Fuller. Thanks to Fantasy books!
I LOVE the idea of having a completely unlearned person on this show to challenge perceptions and act as the audience surrogate for learning. 100% top quality move, Shad!
I get the idea Ant knows more than he lets on but he’s a really good sport either way
Really like ant, respecting him for playing the role of the one who only knows misconceptions to channel information to the viewers, great guy. Big support!
Welcome to the Team Ant! Lookin forward to you finding your rhythm and getting into the flow of it.
Shads definitely back in the algorithm. Lol.
Pretty cool introduction of Anthony, and welcome to you man!
I do hope that the full introduction for Ant isn't going to be exclusive to the membership platforms. While I can understand putting the deep dive(s) in there, I would like to be able to get to know Ant a bit better to see how he fits in the group. I guess this could slowly trickle in through the upcoming videos, but it might do him a disservice making people piece it together over time, perhaps leaving gaps if you don't watch all videos, as opposed to one focused introduction video.
Just my thought though, maybe there is a good plan that I'm simply not aware of, but just don't want to see Ant potentially miss out on a good start, as he seems like a cool dude!
‚People were more free to own and carry swords in Europe‘
Ive Never hated the Word ‚were‘ so much
It’s technically legal in the USA but you’ll still probably get arrested outside of the south I’m in a blue state 😢
@@andrewcatallo2698 It depends on the jurisdiction. For the most part the US doesnt make a distinction between different fixed blade weapons. Most laws set a limit of blade length and thats usually not very long, a few inches at most. Texas removed that limit a few years ago, sparking many jokes that it was legal to open carry swords which it is but that wasnt the intent of changing the law.
@@AJellieDonut well they changed the blade length law in Massachusetts either way it’s your second amendment rite to carry if you like
Its kinda nice to learn with Anthony about swords and all that, would be even more eduactive, you know? Like that ^^
The war knife makes me think of mihawk sword from one piece the one he always have on his back. I wonder if Oda saw a picture of a war knife and decided to just make it bigger like more anime like. That's interesting to learn.
Welcome Ant!
Looking forward what you bring to the table as knowledge base and what he will contribute here!
Shad - I love your channel, you put out great content.
My kid is watching some video that has gerbils in it. G-force, it's called.
You're the human version of a medieval gerbil swordsman, and it works so well.
I've heard from people that go hog hunting that blood grooves actually help in extracting the blade, because without one there's more suction when pulling it out (lol)
Good introduction to a lot of the most common misconceptions.
Wow you disappeared from my feed, glad I found you again. Just signed up for your Patreon. Keep making great content
no way i got this vid recommended. shad comeback!
The format of this video was so much fun. I couldn’t tell if Ant was truly clueless or was having a blast appearing so. Loved it!!
I really liked this video, it was very interesting even though I knew most of it, from the other videos you have made.
It wasn't too long either, like the "The most DEADLY castle gatehouse", I had to stop that video, even though it was interesting, because I didn't have time to watch it all, and I've actually forgot to watch the rest of it since.
Would be nice if you could split the video into 6 sections, for every time you say "actually" and change to the next topic, so it's easy to find later, if I for example want to hear about the steel quality again in a month or two, I can just click on that section and get straight to "myth: bath steel quality" instead of having to use time to look for it, and be unsure if it was even in this video it was explained.
That is a VERY interesting concept, you got there. Invite an absolute noob into your sphere of interest and teach him everything whilst filming. Makes a lot of knowledge more relatable, I anticipate.👍👍☀️☀️👍👍.
Welcome, Anthony 👍.
Why is Ant like.. prince charming.. what the fu** lol
"Follicly challanged" 😂 thats good.
I say im vertically challenged and call ladders vertical extenders.
Glad to have seen this appear on my feed!
I enjoyed this video immensely! I found it funny and informative. Now if only TH-cam would send me notifications when the channel debuts a new video, I’d be all set.
Seems like a good dynamic!
Welcome to the channel, Ant!
"I won't pretend to know everything"
> pretends to know nothing
Omg I just got you guys recommend again only to find out Nate is gone. Heartbroken but happy to see you guys on my feed again. I’m binging missed vids now
What a great video! Perhaps your best.
I know of a myth I'd like addressed: "The most dangerous person in a sword fight is the one with no training at all, because the master swordsman is expecting specific attacks and moves." Personally I think this is total nonsense, but I'd love to see it illustrated.
I don't think that means exactly what you think. Most of the time the untrained person loses in example peasant levees if any could even get their hands on a sword. It means the master swordsman has a counter to all of lessor skill than them except the untrained who might get lucky and do something that is actually fairly stupid to do but as it totally unexpected one does not defend vs it.
Thus statement is actually something like the Master Swordsman has counters to all swordsman lessor than they and thus is more safe than vs someone with no skill who might get lucky. Thus the Master Swordsman will still cut down with ease the vast majority of the untrained but an untrained might get lucky when the trained can't get lucky.
So original statement accurate but does not mention the danger is only it better than no chance.
in terms of people who've got some actual fighting experience, thats not remotely true. there are things you learn, even if its just larp fighting, that will give you a definitive edge in combat against someone with no training. however, that being said, modern martial arts "masters", have basically zero real fighting experience, having only practiced a few moves in controlled situations. ive seen first hand at a martial arts expo full of modern "masters" all get completely destroyed by a guy who used to do illegal street fights.
so basically what it comes down to, is does the "master" in question have any actual experience. if its all just controlled situations they are not really a master at all, and just a self proclaimed one. those types are no more legitimate than a "guru" who will give you the keys to becoming rich if you buy his 200$ how to video.
@@e.corellius4495 Indeed. I think the person who told me this was talking about like, on a battlefield. As in, someone with a sword and equipment but no training, against a trained sword-wielding soldier. Trained vs untrained.
For someone who just knows the moves, sure I can see it, but I suspect this myth comes from the kind of mall-ninja who buys a $60 wall hanger of the Master Sword from Zelda and swings it around a bit, then thinks they could probably beat a medieval knight because obviously people back then were idiots who just swung metal bars at each other all the time.
Peter himself said that you had to defend God’s Word from the very beginning, else trying to share the Gospel was as “pointless as a pugilist punching the air”, so Europe and the Mediterranean had martial arts 2,000 years ago. It’s also where we get “Apologetics” from, as the word he used is where we get that word from, and it describes the act of “defending with everything you’ve got”. See Ken Ham at Answers in Genesis for reference.
That analogy of a fuller to an I-beam is actually fairly accurate. If the I-beam was instead a solid rectangular bar of the same dimensions, it would be even stronger. The purpose of an I-beam is to minimize the amount of material needed to support a load. Remove a lot of material in the center and just a little extra material at the extreme flex points and you have an equally strong beam.
Welcome to the world of arms and armor Ant!
Glad to meet a new member of Shadiversity. Glad to meet ya Ant.
Finally got an update from Shad recommended.
🤣😂🤣😂Definitly a crash course there.👍👍👍👍
when you make a video there is an option "publish to subscription feed and notify subscribers" I have heard that with it on it gets notified to subscribers and if they don't watch it youtube thinks it sucks and doesn't give it to new people, but doing so it might make it harder for actual people who watch your content harder to find it. So I don't know if uncheckin it will help, but it might.
This was the best style bud in a while. Playful without being cruel. Funny and self aware of how silly it was. Yet still presenting valid an on topic content. I'm looking forward to more Teaching Ant episodes.
That's gonna be interesting going forward
Something you forgot to mention about fullers is how forging effects the mechanical properties of the steel. Forging the metal results in the grain structure being compressed and reoriented about the surface of the blade. The compressed steel has superior hardness, fatigue strength, shear strength, and tensile strength. This is why, for example, forged car pistons are so much better than machined pistons. The machined pistons have uniform mechanical properties throughout the part, but the forged part is going to have much better mechanical properties about the surface of the part which is where most of the stress is going to be. You can find some pretty interesting cutaways/cross sections of forged parts that show the difference in grain structure about the surface compared to the inner areas of the part. This is also why swords with forged fullers are so much stronger than swords with ground/machined fullers. You're going to be losing much less strength in the blade by forging the fuller since more of that iron grain along the surface is going to be compressed.
Loving the new guy. Sometimes it’s fun having a newbie and he seems like a great personality!
Thank you so much for this. Weeb culture has really damaged medieval historical references.
Welcome aboard Anthony.
BTW: Received my Shad plushie... LOVE IT.