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In this clip, Van Lathan spoke at length about the Kyrie Irving situation and what elements of that controversy differ from Kanye West. He also broke down the controversial documentary at the heart of the Irving saga and explained why he thought Kyrie caught the backlash he did. - บันเทิง
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Why don;t you just watch the movie then glad
Ye-dolf went from being a high level Hollywood Satanic Elite himself who knowingly agreed to sacrifice his own mother for that $50M contract and profited millioms for peddling degeneracy to our youth to now being the salvation of mankind.
How much do you want bet he is still a Satanic Elite in sheeps clothing, peddling more division and hate under the guise of being a Saved.
If Ye-dolf sold his mother and soul for a dollar, he would sell you out for a penny or a good laugh!
The Holocaust happened overseas in Germany. They handled their history with sympathy and respect. Slavery happened here in America still going on and it's brushed aside with no apologies.
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@Z Z Just googled it and you have mix of sorts.
I find it crazy that Vlad keeps talking about this and hasn’t even watched the movie! Wtf?!
What are you talking about? vlad asked a question and he was listening to what van was saying....
yea, you'd think he woulda fully done his research, but he doesn't care ... he cares about clicks and controversey
@@gloriempaka9474 No Vlad constantly brings this subject up. He asked the same question of John Sally. John said he watched it also and Vlad of course said he didn't. He mentioned he heard certain things were in it. John begins to explain and Vlad interrupts and only wants to hear about the devil worshippers part just like here. John went into detail about that explaining how the devil and hell wasn't brought into existence until white Christianity came around. Hence that's were the phrase originated from. Initially it was heaven and earth. Christianity brought about the devil and hell. I don't know which interview came first. But if this one came after Johns..that proves he has an agenda.
@@djeezee7798 what's his agenda then?😂
Mind u, he supposedly "does his own research"
I’ve never seen Vlad so quiet for so long. Seems like if you’re speaking what he believes, he’s all ears lol
Like every one else on the planet
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 not everyone lol. I’m always down to listen with an open mind. Like I tell my kids, if you’re ever speaking to someone who isn’t open to listening, stop wasting your breath and move on.
@@ayechillout4050 true
I was thinking the exact same thing. If this was Aries, Vlad would've been interrupting every 2 seconds.
@@ayechillout4050 vlad cannot catch a break with y'all😂
Van almost said “Hebrews to Niggas” 😂
Ginger:. That is what happens when you constantly throw that word around.
There was the hard R. 😆
@@palepride7530 right not nigga lol
Same thing haha
@@saparisrael2422 Yes. It's the same word no matter with an a or an r. I always say that a lot of people say booga instead of booger. If anyone flicked one on you no matter how they pronounced it, would make you just as angry.
A non-Jew is called Goyim or Gentile. The business interactions black and Jewish people have had have mostly been through Hollywood and the music industry. Michael Jackson felt he was financially mistreated and so does Ye. Black people have been the product and performers, yet don’t have much power over there own careers. One tweet about “them” can end a career. That’s power.
Man, fuck them.
Some Jews are cool. One of the producers on my next short film is actually Jewish. She’s a nice lady.
But the racist ones can kiss my black ass. Black people are influential, so we can get non-blacks to WORK FOR US.
Know your worth, and don’t bend!
After all this time we're still in the habit of joining the structure someone else created then complaining when they flex on us. Look at what Tyler Perry is doing. Every Black person in the entertainment industry could say I'm going to work exclusively through his studio. But will they? 🤔
N 1 day of togetherness n We End all there so called power Ouuua n cripple the SEX TRAFFICKING cause you know it them ppl with Power n Money running things right lol 😂 man ppl do brainwashed n scare to some Real Cowards
Say it louder nobody heard you my guy
If black people came together & galvanized power we could do the same
The problem is that we keep trying to understand who we are through a colonial/Euro-centric lense. It’s obscuring because that lense is false and was meant for subjugation.
Problem is we complain too much. The only people who dont mobilize politically and business wise when we are the majority in a city or town. ie Ferguson, MO who did mobilize after the fact. Local politics is the power base of society, but we worry about whose in the White House. Just vote home team for White House and concentrate on locals.
@@d3vp131 that’s a lie
Jewish people/ Amalek, has been doing this exact same time since the beginning of time
brilliantly said… arguing over a fantasy
Truth! It’s like we’re exposed from day one and they know it. And have and will use it against blk people forever. It’s really sad… history repeating itself over and over again.
Saying everyone has taken advantage of Black artists is a cop out Van Lathan when we are specifically talking about Jews. MC Serch an old school white Jewish rapper turned music industry exec was on this very platform and told Vlad a White Russian Jew vlogger to his face with no rebuttal that the reason why he signed Nas to a very good production deal that allowed him to keep his publishing and turned him into a millionaire 1 week after Illmatic dropped was because out of his own mouth he wasn’t going to be the Jew who took advantage of another Black man as other Jews did and he went on and gave a list of Jewish exec names who did including Aretha Franklin’s Jewish manager, Lyor Cohen etc. MC Serch then went on Math Hoffa’s podcast and doubled down by saying THE VERY SAME THING! We have been hearing about Jews taking advantage of Black talent from the music industry to Hollywood for decades and we have one of their own in MC Serch saying not only is it true with receipts in the form of names of Jewish execs who have done it but says as a Jew himself he refused to do the same yet here comes Van Latham a Black man to bail Jews out. This is what Farrakhan meant by “all you scared negroes sit down and shut up!” 💣💥
Vlad playing dumb as usual, if the documentary was about black people. He would of watched it
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So what’s your solution, rappers aren’t getting jacked by Jews in music when a lot of black rappers are putting out their music themselves.
@@enosger when they put out their music on their own, who do you think cuts the checks? sends the money? and why are streams worth 0.0 something cents? 🤔
you spittin real truth here
The only thing I knew about them growing up in NY, "they" were the slumlords
Try to find out who owns the federal reserve...they own the country.
If you grew up in the projects no they weren’t. 😂. Plus Jews only rent to other Jews. I grew up in Bedstuy btw
@@dinkybossyou are correct! So much negative speak about Jewish people here. They keep to themselves. I don't why it bothers people so much but it must be nice to cast all problems onto one minority group even though we all play apart.. its just like Van said everybody screwed over black people. It wasn't one group.
@@dinkyboss there slumlords everywhere. Nice try tho
@@brandonburns5365 ok but they’re aren’t all Jewish. Hell every slum lord I had was black except on guy who was Cuban
Van got the tap dance shoes out. M.J. Prince and others have called out the Star People.
Df are you talking about lol
House negro
Jet Set Turner:. You have your out too.
He’s not tap dancing. He’s making statements that you either don’t agree with or can’t comprehend.
Van been tap dancing since them TMZ times
The funniest thing is ppl was uploading a year old Floyd Mayweather video and acting like it was him currently supporting Kyrie 😂. Just so much misinformation and no fact checking
Floyd admitted African Americans are the 12 tribes of Israel on drink champs
Can’t wait for the full interview
you know you can pay to view it
@@YoungBlaze I’m good. I can wait
Van Latham is brilliant 👏🏾 I hope he gets everything he's due.
It's tough because he's not a sensationalist. He's reasonable and those people don't stand out as much.
WEAK ARGUMENT!!!
1. Vlad never watched it
2. Van postulizes that Kyrie didn't watch the doc and makes the argument that two quotes may or may not have been attriibuted to two speakers.
That takes nothing away from the meaning of the quotes and the PHENOMENAL EXPLORATION of Black History and Anti-Black History roots across the globe.
That quote wouldn't have meaning if they didn't attach Fords name to it. Don't disregard facts and context to further one particular narrative.
@@realninja3713but it being Ford or not doesn't really mean anything to alot of ppl.... The quotes are what's interesting... We already know most of these old businesses are dirty.
@@ThePrentisturks if you can't prove where a quote originated. Why use it???? With your thinking docs can just fabricate quotes to fit whatever narrative they want to drive. Fairy tale land...
@@realninja3713 being black and learning history in school is fairytail land anyway
@@ThePrentisturks Perhaps, but there are more than one fairy tales. Sounds like long chosen yours. Stay neutral my friend.
I've learned quite a bit listening to Van. Always more to learn, especially on such an important subject. ☮️
Van is completely wrong on this.
Look up who owned the slave ships
As an AA I don't need this guy or anyone else to speak for me. I speak for myself thank u very much.
That's the problem in the black community. We love to speak for the entire community as if we are somehow connected to one another based upon history that most of us in today's world never went through and thank God we don't have to go through that to me I will never get. And unfortunately we love to play the victim card when it comes to history as if our ancestors didn't do anything wrong.
thedecider1984:. He made it clear that he was not trying to speak for anyone.
@Ty direct I'm African-American.
@Ty direct Tariq Nasheed, you hatin on Africans????
@Ty direct okay, however you want to put it. It's just wordplay
“Kanye got in so much trouble, Kyrie got in trouble.” -D.C.
The GOAT
Vlad please watch the film. Why are you afraid?😂😂😂
As a journalist who wants to touch on the topic I don't know why he didn't watch it
Fr why is he questioning ppl on a movie he ain’t never seen
@@elijahx7159 plus he’s giving his opinion every chance he gets, so exactly. Why not watch it
In a book called "facts are facts" a jewish man called Benjamin H Freedman writes about the Jews and reveals an interesting history. He states that the present jewish people in Israel are not the true descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible but rather descendants of the khazars, pagan people from east Europe.
@@HooodClassicsTV even if he watched it y'all still would complain
When people are so afraid to discuss a topic openly and transparently, without the people getting aggressive, mean, violent - there's some truth to the story.
And which Truth is that?
6:45, Van Lathan sums things up perfectly.
Well said 👍🏾
Van Lathan said exactly what I thought. Kyrie is excited about learning about himself, posted a documentary he didn't watch all the way through, and didn't know how to handle the questions about the doc. Mix in that Kyrie and the Nets were already at odds about other issues, they overreacted suspended him...
What's the name of the Documentary?
@@robertlandfair1513 🤦🏾♂️ Did you listen to anything in this clip??
Van didn’t say that at all you def heard what you wanted 😂
@@dinkyboss @6:47 you're right. Van thinks he didn't watch it at all. @10:37 he said it posted something that wasn't well vetted. I added the stuff about the Nets just to explain the whole situation. But the stuff about documentary, that is essentially what Van is saying. Maybe re watch the video before attempting to call someone out so you don't look so foolish. It's actually a defense of Kyrie. He's not anti-semitic...
@@brandoni241 I get that Van was trying to defend him and that flat earth boy is probably just dumb and not ani Semitic. I’m just saying Van ain’t say all that 😂
Well spoken van
Word salad
@@kingjames2381 If that's word salad to you, you lack basic language comprehension.
I am from Africa and I dont give a flying toss if I have Jewish ancestry or if we did science first or not. What matters to me is what we are doing now.
How we are using our resources to educate and make advancement in science, technology, engineering and mathematic.
I care about how a lot of our leader are psychopathic power hungry people who have amassed unthinkable wealth at the very expense of health care, security, education, food security and housing.
Well if u care about how the leaders go about doing things then u shld indeed care about ur ancestry then because once u realize what u are and who u suppose to be serving...the cares of this world wouldnt matter to u because you'll be lookin fwd to a new 1
@Dominique Edwards So why does looking to ancestors help prepare for a new world? Just asking I am not being extra but curious.
@@alfredweston3932 because our ancestors tht worshipped Elohim were told not to rely on the cares of this world tht when judgement comes this world will be destroyed and a new Earth will be made
If you don’t know your history you are doomed to repeat it. Just like h2o can take multiple forms and still be effective, so can slavery and disenfranchisement.
Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾
Interview Ronald Dalton Jr (the film maker) of “Hebrews to Negroes”
This was well said.
They did their part as well. Aaron Lopez, Samuel Gompers, The Secret Relationship.....
FACTS! The J’s aren’t innocent. Not talking about sweet Jewish grandma next door. We talking about the Zionist Jews that run Hollywood and the Banking Cartels.
It's part 8. Next topic please.
Well said
Van called Kanye an anti sem 🤦🏿♂️ damn vlad be getting that girl out these black men.
as a jew myself, i even know this title is wrong
Of course it is Cause Vlad a proud Jew none so he’s pushing this shit like a true miserable culture vulture that he is
You guys are Khzars. You guys are not the originals. Never were.
Amelake is what you are unless you lineage on your Father's side goes back to a Black man. Blacks Ruled Europe in the middle ages/Dark Ages etc. If not look up Edom or Esau.....that's who you are.
So only Jews fucked over Black people?
@@misterrightuk Look at how you guys lie about everyday news on TV. You think we are supposed to belive that you guys are telling the truth about history.
Vlad tried to sneak it in that he "checked" Van....🤣😭 foh
I like this guy's ability to express
Talking about something you never saw - True Journalism
If I knew that there was a documentary purporting to prove that Elvis was still alive I can tell you that it was complete BS without watching it
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 and then you'd go on to produce hours and hours of interviews with different people talking about the absurdity of the Elvis documentary you never watched, generating clicks & money and calling yourself a journalist
@@gabialbrecht1 that's fine
They owned the slave ships
The biggest slave port in the u.s was also home of this country’s earliest synagogue
The biggest slave ports in Africa were actually African run….they brought the slaves and sold them and everything.
Who was selling the slaves to the slave ships…
Sex trafficking doesn't make the person who pays for the sex innocent
@@ashash7251 Africans
Van Lathan schoolin right now
He definitely operates like a true journalist
Nah he's just as a puppet. I'm not even black and know the crimes that the jews have done to blacks going back to even the days of Egypt.
@@amidbse lol
Schooling lies
BS
He must not know much about the Music Industry
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Choo Choo Trains runs the Music Industry, Hollywood, and the Banking Cartels.
In 2016, a French Jewish filmmaker, named Lauren Gavron,made a film called, Black Jews, The Roots of an Olive Tree. It documents Hebrew tribes in Africa. What inspired Gavron to make the film was, a book written by Edith Bruder, called, The black Jews of Africa, history, identity, religion.
“In sub-Saharan Africa, you can find ‘Judaic’ tribes in Ghana, Nigeria, Mali, Uganda, Cameroon, South Africa, Zimbabwe and even in Sao Tome and other countries,” Bruder said.
Hello. Where's the link to the documentary?
Don't even try to compare your kind to the jews.
@@Igga_killer There is no comparison. We are the originals. Ashken azis are not.
@@melvinhhcp3615 you are at the bottom of the food chain boy
In a book called "facts are facts" a jewish man called Benjamin H Freedman writes about the Jews and reveals an interesting history. He states that the present jewish people in Israel are not the true descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible but rather descendants of the khazars, pagan people from east Europe.
I didn't realize how smart Van is.
The earth is not flat, but people who believe it is have more sense than people who don't....they have the ability to think outside the box!
Vlad, if you didn’t watch it yourself, why discuss it? You won’t have a non bias understanding until you watch it
He wasn't even being biased
If black people want absolute power all they have to do is stop signing and do it independently in every frame of things be it a cook,a teacher,a doctor,musician,rapper,it’s about taking the power of your money back then only then will blacks see the power of everything they contribute,if the black community can’t stand as one it will never be just that a community of people with power,with all the multi millionaires in each of the things I listed above that huge number could come together and slowly make a nest for their own people,if they won’t sit at the table and see your value then stop giving the people that prosper so much your everything
I can’t stand the fact that they think Van speaks for us!!!!!!!!
Broken Heartless Records:. A lot of "they" don't even know who Van is, so how can they think he speaks for us.
No one says that. Btw your not black Adolph Bot
Watching the interviews segments: Van went out his way stating he was only expressing his opinion. How anyone can construe otherwise is pure projection.
Who thinks he speaks for us ? Only you do clearly
Us? How about you think and speak on your own
Why does glad continue to ask people about a film he's never watched? And he has the gall to call himself a journalist
To get THEIR perspective. Not hard.
😂😂 Glad. Boosie, is this you?
Don't use GOOGLE to do your research ladies and gentlemen. Start in your library and then travel.
I never saw a man not watch something on purpose but keep talking about it...Vlad is definitely not fooling everybody...
But you’re still here supporting him😴🥱
@@teesev6231 I guess you didn’t read my post… it’s my culture… he’s the visitor and most likely so are you…
In a book called "facts are facts" a jewish man called Benjamin H Freedman writes about the Jews and reveals an interesting history. He states that the present jewish people in Israel are not the true descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible but rather descendants of the khazars, pagan people from east Europe.
@@teesev6231you’re lame
@@t-money4836 and you’re slow
Well spoken Van
I have not watched it either. But maybe I will
Of course you didn't watch it vlad you don't want to see the truth
He might see his ancestors on it
@@HooodClassicsTV 😆
@@HooodClassicsTV 🤣😂
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Van Lathan is playing both sides this some malarkey. Kyrie speaking his truth. Ye speaking his truth Van trying not to piss off tha synagogue of satan!!!
11:27 - 35 when he addressed that secret societies issue he made sure to give that signal. Lol. Good boy. 👍
Water always finds its level.....
Hey Creative.....Well said. Viewing history with a modern lens is def on display here. Van is almost there but to be clear, Africans were the leaders in everything and we held each nation in our domination. It took the Arabs 200 years to try and figure out how to defeat us and they finally did. Jews were such a small and non-important tribe only northern Africans even heard of them. Later that all changed but to this day they remain a small tribe compared to the numbers of other tribes. I like Van and I am happy to see him out from under that Harvey Levin drama. Big Up to the Van Man
the black hebrews are the guys who believe black people where traveling through the galaxy since ancient times until their technology was stolen by the white man right ?
@@kerpal321 Wait what? Bro I had no idea what they are but that is a whole basket of insanity. Now to be honest King Tut's father was described as black, large and knew how to levitate large blocks of stone but I had no idea that was a faith.....ok. I learn something new every day but many say the earth was indeed populated by another race of beings way before we were created.
Everytime I hear the J word. I think of Carmen from South Park. The OG hater lol
People will insult Russians with no repercussions but not say a word about the J’s
Or the Italians
That’s because the Russians in Russia are Aholes
You need to change this title Vlad!!
Slander
0:51 "MmmHmmmm" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why vlad keep asking black people about jews,can he gets some real Jews to ask
There are black Jews you do know that right?
@@Dontizzle24 you mean Isrealites
@@Dontizzle24 I mean to interview instead of asking non Jew people their opinions
@@afrolore7462 no Jews who are black silly
NAH HE ONLY SUCKS MELANATED BLOOD.
Van, don’t speak on history if you don’t know history
This man is a great man
Van is the truth 💯
Things people do for a job 😂😂
He been on their meat stick...a TMZ product !
He sleeps at the foot of Harveys bed 😆
Van Lathan I disagree with you saying kyrie didn't watch the documentary because you're saying he's lying without having a conversation with him to find our if he did and he did say he watch it so please clear That up sir
Van Latham looks like YE when he reads from his phone.
He is the second person I heard that says they don’t think Kyrie saw the documentary.
I'm wondering what gave them that impression? Did they watch it?
Hell I even thought he didn’t 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
A wise man once told me when I was a teenager that always stuck to me. a bird is a bird a fish is a fish & a human is a human.
There are different kinds of birds, different kinds of fish, and different kinds of humans. That wise man you speak of wasn’t that wise.
@@Igga_killer 🤣😂
This is the problem when a person does one thing really well and things that gives them carte blanche to speak on all things
Indeed.
That caption is accurate.
That Boah Van out here like Dance Fever 🕺🏾 😂
Every Idiot: “I don’t Kyrie actually watched it”🤨
We don’t care what Van says vlad why don’t you bring in black scholars who believe the same as Kanye and kyrie.
Cause they dumb as hell
@@irvingpollard2961 We done with the Caucasian theories we know it’s driving you crazy. Everything taught from Europeans perspective is tainted by racism. We gave y’all years to change but you can’t wickedness in your DNA
@@PraisestoYah I'm black lol and you niggas brain is fried, claiming 7 different ethnicity's , go get some money
@@irvingpollard2961 Money is a piece a paper losing value everyday
Speak for yourself. Instead of "We" you should say "I"
i like van lathan. used to dislike him cause he was a part of tmz which i really hate tmz. but listening to him outside of tmz he’s a great person and is smart.
He let Kanye have it on TMZ.
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addressing tha title...
facts...
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LMAO @ the title
Then what does van call what the Israelis are doing to Ethiopian and African immigrants in Israel right now??
Look at what they do to Palestinians too
What they doing?
Not unique to Israel. Black people are mistreated all over.
It's funny how people like Vlad throws the word (Conspiracy) around and doesn't give everyone the definition of what (Conspiracy) means because that will then hem him up on his talking points.
Who funded the slave ships???
Mostly the British Empire who were mostly Catholics until Henry the 8th changed the official religion to the Church of England after the Pope refused him an annulment from his first wife Queen Catharine of Aragon to marry Anne Boleyn.
Fly Ty Blizzy:. Various countries funded slave ships. Christopher Columbus was funded by Spain although he did not have slave ships. Portugal, Spain, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden were just a few of the countries that were involved in the Atlantic slave trade. Most of the people in those countries were not Jewish.
@@beaujac311 Sure, but the British Empire began with the overseas possessions and trading posts established by England between the late 16th and early 18th centuries. At its height it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power. You are correct in the 15th and 16th centuries, Portugal and Spain pioneered European exploration of the globe, and in the process established large overseas empires. Envious of the great wealth these empires generated, England, France, and the Netherlands began to establish colonies and trade networks of their own in the Americas and Asia. A series of wars in the 17th and 18th centuries with the Netherlands and France left England (Britain, following the 1707 Act of Union with Scotland) the dominant colonial power in North America. Which means they had a monopoly on trade in North America for centuries, including the abhorrent slave trade.
@@christinaw2518 My comment was replying to Fly Ty Blizzy only.
@@beaujac311 Wow, telling a woman to shut up and only speak when spoken to? Ok, I see you.
Btw I didn’t disagree with you. I thought I was adding to the points you made abt Europe, France and the Netherlands by including historical context of overseas trading posts.
And that’s the truth. Ruth
Did Mr.West get this guy fired from TMZ or something?
Van is str8 Coonin' for them ppl...
I agree with him!
So if everyone did, then they did as well, right?
Van is 100% right!
No he isn’t and it’s problematic to think so
This man be PREACHING ‼️
Van is a smart brother
This young man is so well expressing the Native Black Americans Experience and how many in the community search for who they are and their place in this world because of how so much of the greatness of Native Black Americans has been purposefully hidden and because of how whiteness purposefully used propaganda in all forms to stigmatize those of the Native Black American Community.......That is why it is imperative that parents make it a priority that their children have knowledge of the Native Black Americans Experiences in America......Really in the world.....beginning with America........
Thanks for clearing that up for us Van 🤡
Just watch the movie, vlad 🤦🏾♂️
Indeed i hate Vlad but that movie is soooo dumb
Only Blacks can believe it, of course thats what you get with an 80 IQ
When he say the earth is not flat, what’s your evidence outside of NASA telling you it’s round ??
Dude is a apologist. Straight up.
I miss my brother watching Lathan speak
Van is a breath of fresh air
Why is it no one ever discuss what’s in the documentary…
@Eric. Clean out your ears. Van Lathan did address somethings in the doc.
Van is funny. I think kyree is a well read man. Lol
I don't think he watched the documentary.....
😂
Koooooon!!!!
I know dam well you didn’t go in deeper on his beliefs of there being secret societies! Pls vlad you have to get his views on that soon. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
Van on point with this one
No he not
He usually is but that what happens when you actually read books 😂
THE STATE OF ISRAEL SUPPORTED APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA
Black people and Jews have no direct relationship and they are not our problem. We cannot blame them for anything we have going on. We need to be realistic.
He just posted something. He didn't say anything.
The Talmud doesn’t look good when you read it. That’s what the rabbi comes out of. The practices of the Jewish people work for them. But it’s very segregational in its practices. As are most religions in their purest forms.
Van tap dancing smh
"The American presidency is the position of a warlord"