Blood Angels vs Necrons, 10th edition Warhammer 40k battle report
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- Welcome to my first 10th edition Warhammer 40k battle report. 2000 points of Blood Angels take on the Necrons in this matched play game. #AdWIP #Leviathan #New40k #WarhammerCommunity
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Hope you all enjoyed this! Few disclaimers, the clarification rules hadn't released when we filmed this so of course the damage thing has since been FAQ'd! We chatted about it at length beforehand as we both thought it would be 'to a minimum of 1' but decided to play it as written until we were sure! Glad they sorted that!
Overall some nice core rules this edition, looking forward to playing more!
Why though lol you should have played it as intended everybody knew it didn’t make
You immune to damage 1 weapons
Thanks Sultan - loved the primaris in drop pod moment!
"Noone will watch this far, don't worry"
And I took that personally
Luckily, they have clarified that weapons cannot go lower than damage 1 as a general rule.
There was never a reasonable interpretation otherwise. In my opinion.
"you'd think they'd notice if they'd done this wrong" 😂 😂 that is some next level copium
@@BuryMyHeartAtCrystalLakeidk, I kind of like that idea that certain weapons against certain defenses are just entirely ineffective. It doesn't work great from gameplay, but lore wise it's cool
Idk how they missed that to begin with
@Sean Boerger the best way to do that mechanically is to go back to the old wounding system from 7th and before. And use armour values again
Sultan's line, "I'm hoping I won't need to," in response to Winters asking what was holding his back line, is one of the best quotes from a 40k batrep I've heard.
I'm a BA successor player, and on the reveal of the Blood Angels army for this game I started hooting and raising the roof
The reanimator has two atomiser beams, so you should roll six dice on them instead of just the three. Great battle report!
"What's staying back and camping on your objective point?" "I'm hoping I won't need too..."
Spoken like a true Blood Angels player
Those saves Winters rolled, scary 😨
Again an enjoyable game between two real gentleman.
You are probably aware of this by now but reducing damage to 0 isn't a thing unless it's a special rule that states it.
"Strength, Toughness, Attacks and Damage characteristics can never
be modified below 1. The exception to this is where a rule specifies
that you can change the Damage characteristic to 0, where this is
applied before any other modifiers."
Thank goodness because that seemed utterly silly. Especially for things like Deathwing Knights that could have been immune to 2D weapons and crippled 3D.
Are you able to reference it, one of the guard strategems doesn’t state to reduce damage by 1 to a minimum of one, it was one of the armored stratagem.
@@yokogaijinjr.5061 It's in the Rules Commentary document on the official 40k download page. If the rule doesn't specifically say to change the damage characteristic to zero (for instance, a rule that says the damage of the first failed save is changed to zero) then it doesn't happen. Anything that says a -1 to damage is to a minimum of 1 damage.
amazing how many wishful thinkers were hoping that their army was impervious to damage 1 by reducing to zero :)
Unfortunately this battle report was filmed before everyone else got the points as Winters was sent advanced copies of the rules, they obviously forgot to send him the Rules Commentary along with it.
Winters with a 10th ed battle report let's go!!!
Best on TH-cam by a mile.
I agree
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I think you can only be affected by the same rule once, no matter the rule. You can't stack the Re-animator Auras because of that :)
Some abilities affect multiple models
or units in a given range. These
are known as Aura abilities and
are tagged with the word 'Aura'. A
model with an Aura ability is always
within range of its own Aura ability.
A unit can be affected by more than
one Aura ability at a time, but if
a unit is within range of the same
Aura ability more than once, that
Aura ability only applies to that
unit once.
I need my coffee and my Winters' battle reports. I refuse to choose one.
The points lists are weird. We're back to powerlevels, except GW forced them on everyone. Marines took some ugly and weird hits, like aggressors losing even more shots and drastically increasing in price, outriders losing half their melee and ranged shots and going up in price, but then desolators going significantly down despite being a problem in competitive.
I can see some of what they're doing, reducing lethality against infantry and making anti-armour cheaper, but in full honesty, the set costs and missing models from the lists are outright incompetent. This is shoddy work.
I agree. Less for more, I'm sick enough of that with food
Thats why i stay in the 9th ed with my BA and Grey Knights, they promised different things. The rules are new, but not less complex as before. They where saying they want to merge first born and primaris stats to bring them closer together, they did exactly the opposite. 10th ed is gonna be a spam of the best Elites with HQ combos and a lot of tanks.
Two editions of no one using power levels should have been a hint that no one wanted to be forced to only use power levels. And what if you wanted to start a new army for a new edition? Are you going to gamble on the codexes remaining like this, or will wargear costs suddenly be back and you new army with every bell and whistle is now awkward to build a list around? Really tanks my enthusiasm to do anything but wait half a year to see where the game is heading then.
What a brilliant comeback from the Necrons after a horrendous first turn. Just goes to show you shouldn't call it quits just because you have a rough start.
As far as reducing damage to zero,GW cleared that up in the Rules Commentary that dropped today. " Strength, Toughness,Attacks, and Damage characteristics can never be modified below 1. The exception to this is where a rule specifies that you can change the damage characteristic to 0,where this is applied before any other modifiers" ( p 17).
Great batrep, and great to be getting into 10th at last 😆. Thanks Winters and Sultan!
You can move using the chronomancers ability after not shooting an enemy. In the designers commentary document they say a unit is eligible to shoot if it's: not in combat, hasn't advanced, hasn't fallen back. Even if it doesn't have ranged weapons it's eligible!
Winters and Sultan BRs are always great. Nice to see Sultan reminding Winters of his own rules as per usual :p always a good sport and has entertaining lists which is what's important!
Fun + narrative + fluff over winning all day.
P.s can we see the return of the Ad Mech pls Winters. Want to see if they can put up any sort of fight as they're my only army.
Just for you, I'll aim to bring my AdMech in the near future! With filming and release timelines, I can't promise it will come out particularly soon, but there will be one coming!
@@SultanPlays40k Legend, thank you!
What a lovely community this is, positive vibezzz. Subbing and will watch your tutorials for painting motivation which I desperately need!
I Like the new reanimation rule, the old one was ok for warriors but pretty useless on anything with more than 1 wound.
fits the lore of them healing wounds and getting back up way better
Yeah but stacking the reanimation aura is just too much.
@@stevens9625 you can't do that
@@bradensylvester9803 Yeah, the new FAQ just came out. Also there's no 1dmg invulnerability either. You'd think this is the first time GW wrote rules for their table top game. 🙄
@@stevens9625 stacking auras was in the core rulebook 🤔
@@bradensylvester9803 Where do you see that? I can't find anything in the rules or FAQ about stacking auras. You can't duplicate core abilities, but that doesn't apply to things like the Reanimator's aura.
If both the nightbringer and death company have -1 damage doesnt that mean that bolt pistols and chainswords cant hurt them?
Damage can never be negated, just reduced, halved etc.
They clarified in the designer notes that came put today it cannot be reduced to 0 damage unless the rule says specifically reduce the damage to 0
Sanguinary guard can also be led by captain with jump pack.
btw Captain can also atach to Sang Guard
The beginning of a new era!
10th edition battle reports are finally here \o/
Can you charge after disembarking from a drop pod? it`s not a assault transport. Looking forward to read your thoughts on that
Winters was rolling stupid high though, really changed the game, the Nightbringer should have been killed early, crazy good rolling
Identical aura's don't stack do they? I don't think Canoptek Reanimator's both give the buff, but I would love to be wrong.
Bold of you guys assume gw means -1 damage negate 1 damage 😂😅
Hi winters, great report. Now the commentary have come out to clarify that -1 damage can’t actually reduce 1 damage to 0.
I've avoid all the other 10th ed preview battle reports to wait for Winter's, lets go!
I see Winters 10th edition battle report, and I instantly click
Thank you for all the BA content!
10th and Blood Angels, Let's goooo!
@26:53, since your ark was stationary 6 on wounds are mortals, would be one more marine! :D
I like that some shared arbitrary clarifications are gone from the rules etc. However, it seems some chaps missed the core rules about minus damage and auras!
Great Video! What model is the Nightbringer? The best alternative ive seen so far!
I designed it with Den of Imagination painting studio. As well as paint stuff, they can create custom sculpts
I thought with the new rules that cover couldn't be used to improve an armor save below 3+?
My Carcharodons have a complaint for Sultan about being the most brutal space marines 🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈
Love your Battle Reports Winters!
Death Company robbed themselves of killing The Nightbringer.
Lemartes gives them Lethal Hits 👍
Deathcompany can reroll HITS (not just misses).
Should have rerolled any Chainsaw hit dice that wasn't a 6 and then not left that naughty Nightbringer on 1 wound remaining. 🙂👍
soo only watched the beginning so far but one Unit can only hit by the same Aura once, says the core rulebook, so no stacking reanimation
EPIC NECRON VICTORY!!!!!
Mephiston and co shoild have consolidayed because they have fights firat right?
Oh because within the same phase. Hmm. They still would have been spared a lot of powerful shooting if they had
Monsters can still shoot in engagement range it's just -1 to their hit role unless they have a rule to negate it like certain monster units.
The charge didnt work when you sent the bladeguard at the lord, but according to the PDF, you cannot charge and attack models you didnt declare and if you cant reach one of the charge targets then the charge fails. Also when the ark fired at the bladeguard, he put the remaining guard and chappie out of coherancy so one of the two remaining models should have died.
Sultan... Sultan look at me... I watched that far into the video 👀
Some abilities affect multiple models
or units in a given range. These
are known as Aura abilities and
are tagged with the word 'Aura'. A
model with an Aura ability is always
within range of its own Aura ability.
A unit can be affected by more than
one Aura ability at a time, but if
a unit is within range of the same
Aura ability more than once, that
Aura ability only applies to that
unit once.
Hot play, super cool models, everything we like!
Lokhust (like the insect) not Lock Hurst
Winters is Coming.... looking forward to this!
Doomsday ark gets MVP and he had some crappy shot rolls early on.
Death to D6 dmg!
Winters my friend, love your content as always! Question time though, how did you get those data cards, did you just print them out and laminate them? Or can you buy separately
You can print them out from Warhammer Community or wait a week and they'll be in the shops.
Nightbringer is a monster so can shoot into combat because of big guns never tire.
These armies are so tiny compared to my six double strength imperial guard infantry squads
They did FAQ it, -1 damge cant reduce to 0
Sang Guard can attach to Captain who could normally attach to an assault squad with jump packs, not just Dante.
You got a Reanimaton CP you know that?^^
Thank you so much for blessing us with this video you bloody king. It might be hot outside, but it’s winters in my household.
Nice
Have I missed something? Why do people call them LokhuRst? Did they used to be called LokhuRst and it get changed or something?
Thanks for the BatRep!
ooooooooooh, been waiting for this!! cheers bucko!!!
Great first game of 10th!
LibDread can do it’s ability “once per turn”. Not “once per game” ;). I’ll now watch and hope this doesn’t become a crucial difference maker. “Watching”😮
8 minutes in, I see blood angel's army list with no heavy hitters and a crapton of sanguinary guard... I go "well i guess necrons win this one..." I skip ahead to end. Necron Victory.
Reanimator got 2x atomiser beams. you where just rolling 3 dices for attacks.
Can anyone point me to where they clarified the damage reduction ruling?
Primaris in Drop Pods! 💪 **smiles in Space Wolf** 😎
Super happy, too. But confused how they were able to charge immediately after disembarking. It doesnt say anywhere that it allows you to charge immediately after disembarking, unlike Assault Ramp. Kind of a huge deal to know if thats correct or not.
That shot by the doomsday ark across at the dreadnought. Very tasty.
Always the best terrain setups.
Great to see the Blood Angel squads with the attached leaders.
An epic batrep for 10th, by far the best I've watched so far.
"We assume those whom have made the 9th edition rules would have made these mistakes in 10th." Ahhh imagine if they were that good and actually proofread
What an explosove game, just what i expect from the new indexes
10th ed let’s go! For the emperor and for the 13th!
Playing my first game of 10th tomorrow with UM against Necrons, this was super helpful. Fun to watch too, keep up the good work!
Have fun
What a swing 😊
I love you Sultan!❤
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cant take more than 3 characters at the moment.
"Strength, Toughness, Attacks and Damage characteristics can never
be modified below 1. The exception to this is where a rule specifies
that you can change the Damage characteristic to 0, where this is
applied before any other modifiers."
Can't you? More like you can't take more that three of one character
Didn't fancy using Red Rampage?
captains (with jump packs) can attach to sang guard.
Am i wrong in the clarification that a3+ in cover is 3+ ?
blood angels didnt use oath of moment first turn
Sangunary guard are super over priced :(
I need to get one of those craptop animators 🤣
So glad Necrons are a thing again, they've got fantastic lore. Didn't play my Necrons at all in 9th, and not much in 8th even. They are certainly getting dusted off and onto the battlefield now though.
Sadly Sultan forgot to add Inferno Pistols to his Death Company that Ctan would be less long lived if he had 8 shots with inferno pistols, he also had CP to play Red Rampage but forgot to do so.
Sanguniary Guard could also had Inferno Pistols - or he did not add them for good sports sake, 18 Inferno Pistols is nothing to sneeze at.
The Librarian Dreadnought seemed abit redundant, it should have Advanced already in turn 1 imho.
"THE BLOOD ANGELS
"Upon the seed of the Blood Angels there lies the most ancient curse of mutation, a foulness that cannot be seen, which is covered over by the grace, intelligence, and high achievements which are the proud boast of this most noble of Chapters. Yet the fire the burns behind the eyes of these sons of Sanguinius is bright with a thirst which only the blood of man can slake. Aye, it would be wise to but whisper the name that comes from times heavy with age and fear, a name which echoes in the march of the Blood Angels, the name of Vampire."
Quote from Warhammer 40,000: Codex Imperialis
FAQ -1 damage caps at 1.
sang guard can be joined by jump captains.
if a Captain model from your army with the Leader ability can
be attached to an Assault Squad with Jump Packs unit, it
can be attached to this unit instead
Necrons baby!!!
P.S. Reanimator has 2 atomisers, so 6 dice. :)
Great battle report. I played a handful of games as SW in 9th and haven't played 10th yet. Necrons I've started collecting but haven't played any "official" games with them so this was nice to watch and see their effectiveness and how the game flows. Really liking reanimation protocols and there's some nasty combos with that.
First Blood Angel detachment I’ve seen.
Very impressed by the how divergent from a standard Gladius it proved to be.
I was rather doubtful of the changes to sub factions on release but you’ve shown me it can work.
Great battle too! 👍
Great battle gents. Terrifying/Glorious to see those Blood Angels flying forward, depending on which side of the table you're on!
I am in love with the paint job on those necrons. Mixing the metallic with what appears to be yellow (I'm moderately colorblind) looks Brilliant!
The Chronomancer does still count as leading a unit. They clarified that in the commentary. Appreciate however that this vid was probably filmed before you had access to that document.
at the end did your lord pas the battel shock test? If not he has a OC of zero this would mean that the blood angels would con troll 3 objectives. Single units have to take a battelshock test if they below half of there wound points. They count as half strength then.
Aura's (of the same type) don't stack. Pg 38. Aura Abilities.
So blood angels have da jump now or has that been a thing?
They used to have 'upon wings of fire' as a redeploy strat in 8th and 9th, now the librarian dread does it 😊
I was so burnt out on 9th. I’m really looking forward to the reset of 10th.
Well, necrons are looking rather scary, won every battle report I've watched so far 😬.
Just remember devastating wounds get damage reduction before they’re converted into mortals. So Death Company would’ve taken two less mortals.
Superb, Supportbubblesultan‘s Blood Angels, brilliant game.
Yeah..... I give the reanimation on top of reanimation on top of reanimations , about a week until it's fixed .
I dont think it was used it this game but dont forget - if you shoot from ventage point into a unit on ground level you get 1 extra AP
You can now take shooting weapons on wraiths for free. I think the 2+ pistols would have helped a lot