By 'upend', do you mean 'make Mel Brooks look like an unimaginative hack'? Because G Gundam has, I kid you not, a Mermaid Gundam, Windmill Gundam, and a heart-shaped final attack that is literally powered by love.
@Pye22 I think what Zaini meant is that G Gundam cures the depression caused by watching Tomino gundams. If that isn't what he meant, then you're right.
@@Vesperitis Given how frequently they've used Tequila Gundam as a base for characters in Build Fighters, it baffles me that it still doesn't have a kit.
@@ccggenius I'm just here waiting for model kits for gundams that aren't Domon's. Seriously, I think modern Devil Gundam or shuffle alliance gundams would absolutely be killer.
I say this often, but Nekki Basara is less a character, more a walking force of nature, which I think is his appeal. While Gamlin and Mylene and the Rest of the Guys and Protodevilians are more the real people who reacts and gets effected by the endless inhuman spirit of Basara.
@@OmegaKatanaXIII In theory, but the release of said content has been really slow. I'm a little concerned that Macross Shooting Insight for PS4/PS5/Switch was delayed, but that might just be my overall paranoia. As someone who likes SDF Macross more than the rest of the franchise combined, I wouldn't mind if they threw out the original agreement. For fans in my predicament, the deal is simply not a good one.
Fun Fact: Nekki Basara has two VAs one for speaking (Nobutoshi Hayashi) and one for singing (Yoshiki Fukuyama). The singing VA is nowadays a member of JAM Project
I AM HERE FOR THIS. It feels good to see a video with genuine love for a franchise I adore come out on youtube. It is so rare. Also you should do the harmony gold video, and many others like me and Gwyn Campbell would most likely love to help get you all the info you need to do it. I really wish Western anime fans would give even a second to respect and appreciate classics like Macross, Gundam, and ESPECIALLY Space Battleship Yamato, who's amazing remake 2199 is legally available in the west. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for making this video.
A video on why Harmony Gold sucks is pretty high on my to-do list, rest assured. I'm juggling two pretty big video projects right now, but once they're done, I'll probably start research for Harmony Gold pretty quick. DM me on Twitter, so I know how to contact you! If you think you can provide me with some useful info/links on HG, I'd be super thankful!
I was more shocked Red Bard and Dan actually pronounce it ma-CROSS instead of MA-cross. I know it's just my ADHD brain focusing on something trivial, but it's like hearing someone saying "window" as win-DOW and I just can't...
@@Maverick2736 Yes exactly! Ever since I knew the macross series, I've been calling it Mah-cross in my head instead of Meh-cross. I checked a little online and it looks like the ADV english dub pronounces in Meh-cross, while the Jp dub pronounces it Mah-ku-ro-su
My answer to the "Can I jump into Macross 7 as the starting point of the Macross series" question is, if I could jump into Macross Plus with zero context as a 12-year-old weeb back in the day, anything is possible!
Yep! It's largely a good thing that by the end of most series the central conflict with whatever alien or AI or two former bros or shadowy space government cabal is basically resolved. But, the real treat, for me, is when a song from a previous series turns up(especially as we now have a bigger variety of songs. Thanks in no small part to the work of Kanno and Fukuyama) sung by characters that are fans of the in-universe bands/performers. The kids breaking out in a campfire rendition of Remember 16 is a big highlight of Macross Delta for me.
G Gundam has memorable scenes, an iconic soundtrack, and a story that is surprisingly emotional and not entirely depressing. You've got a lot of company on that hill. Watch it subbed, though. Tomokazu Seki gives the performance of a lifetime.
I love all of Macross and its trifecta: Mecha, Music and Muses. It's brilliant. While my absolute favorite is Macross Plus (Movie Edition) as a subversion of the formula and for its story, I love Zero, SDF, DYRL, 7 and Frontier and Delta too. They all have their own unique tone and feel despite having a shared theme and timeline.
What makes it really difficult to describe Macross to others is the plot itself really isn't important. What makes a Macross anime Macross is these ethereal concepts that are difficult to put into words. This broad conceptual idea of humanity, love, culture, the things that breaks us apart, things that make us different, and the things that ultimately bring us together. Especially when discuss SDF, M+, and M7. While MF and MD get lot of the macross ethereal concepts right, it also missses the mark on others. So how do you actually describe such ethereal concepts to someone where it not them separately but how they all come together to essentially write a love song for the galaxy that creates this common culture across all alien species. I am sure for people who never seen SDF, M+, and M7 just saying that sounds insane. But when your deep in that world, it makes 100% sense.
I dont think its too difficult to describe the series to anyone and properly get across the themes used, atleast not for the original series, DYRL, and Macross 2. Love is stronger than hate, our enemies might not be all evil but instead ignorant or manipulated, working together we can overcome any obstacle sometimes love is toxic. There are so many more that i cant think of but they are easier to get across using examples from the shows and movies. I think its when grouping the many different series as a whole that things begin to get messy. They dont all feel like they belong to the same franchise and end up feeling like the japanese version of Harmony Gold. They vary in success getting across the themes they all share in common, the themes that have become staples that the franchise is known for to the point that some feel shoehorned in to say that its there and others are blown out of proportion and the show basically becomes about a single subject.
As a standalone, my favorite is Dynamite Explosion. Overall though, I like the story that Try Again tells, how it fits into the story and how it is a song that only gets completed in the final episode with Basara's epiphany at the end. Also Gamlin yelling "Everyone, listen to Basara's Song!" in SRW Z2 is one of the most heartwarming feelgood moments in crossover history. Dan knows what I'm talking about.
Oh, Macross 7. As someone I know once said: "everyone who watches Macross 7, ends up liking Basara". Also, I'd love to watch the Harmony Gold video! Everything that entire company did is sketchy. Just the fact that the original creator of Macross, Shoji Kawamori, doesn't acknowledge Robotech should say a lot.
In my experience, Basara is a divisive character. You either love him for his moral ideals or hate him for his complete lack of consideration of social rules. He works on his own schedule, changes the agenda at the drop of a hat, ignores access restrictions, and frequently goes on walkabout. I like that the show regular reflects this and uses it to induce growth in other characters (even if Basara never has any).
I was waiting to hear something along the lines of, "Harmony Gold sucks." I was not disappointed. I'm still pissed there's a chance they extended their distribution licence for 35 years.
Fun Trivia: Basara's speaking VA Nobutoshi Canna is also Knuckles the Echidna from Sonic Franchise, Cu Chulainn from Fate Stay Night, Ryo Takatsuki from Project ARMS, Guts in Berserk 1997, Ban Midou from Getbackers, Kabuto Yakushi from Naruto, Nnoitra from Bleach, Tasuki from Fushigi Yuugi, Roland from Digital Devil Saga 2, and Takaya from Persona 3. Pretty underapreciated seiyuu in the West.
It warms me to see new Macross discussion videos on youtube. And so glad someone actually talks about Macross 7 in a positive light. So many just hate on 7, completely missing the point of it. Or they are just blinded by Robotech. Favorite song is 'DYNAMITE EXPLOSION'.
I don't think people are blinded by Robotech. The reason why people disliked Macross 7, Delta and Frontier, because it Throws away what Macross Succeeded and throw Realism and Logic away to the Garbage. My Honesty. I liked 7, but i wish 7 was its own Universe than being Canon from the Original Macross. Same goes Zero, Frontier and Delta. The magic Singing is quite bullshit. Especially it defeats the purpose of Culture.
I would argue that Macross 7 is the most Macross Macross to ever Macross and was highly influential to later shows like Frontier and Delta. It takes the messages of peace and music and culture as a way of ending conflict and puts it front and center. Macross tried to be a real robot military drama and features a lot of pro-military vibes and the outsider main character assimilates practically overnight and becomes a war hero. Minmei is a useful and unexpected weapon, and the themes of love and unity are touched on with the Jenius family but that's about it. Plus/7 came out close to the same time and represented a major fork in the road for Macross as a franchise Macross Plus was literally the military industrial complex equipping two equally shitty people with the latest cutting edge gear and having them duke it out for a defense contract. Even the music is corporate and souless as the musical act is an AI who does crazy AI shit. (The actual soundtrack is great, but the idea of the plot is basically a rogue vocaloid causes some shit) and could have been replaced with basically any plot device without changing the love triangle/rivalry/shitty people showcase. Make main girl a scientist developing a military defense AI and it's the same show. I love Macross Plus, but it was Macross trying to be about robots with music as a gimmick Macross 7 is where Macross stopped trying to be a mecha series WITH music and fully admitted to being a Mecha series ABOUT music. The UNS Government is shown to be lacking in competence at best, or downright corrupt and uncaring at worst. The main characters are fringe oddly militarized antiwar rock stars and a military fighter ace who (spoilers) ends up joining the civilian run civil defense forces headed by the Mayor rather than the military commander in charge of the fleet overall. The military's role for the protags is mainly as support for the main characters and only reluctantly so once they realize music can once again be used as a weapon. It hints at an ongoing project (Project M) that had been developed to study weaponizing music since the events of the first series and the UNS command are very much not to be trusted. The fleet commander is cool because he's Max Friggin Jenius, fighter ace and first human to bone a giant space woman from the OG series. His half-blood daughter is one of the main characters and is essentially a symbol of the peace they can attain through music and culture. The musicians are the heroes, the military are arguably secondary antagonists half the time. Lead on to Frontier where the main heroes are civilian military contractors and the actual military/government forces are again inept and/or corrupt. This time the contractors realize that once again music is a weapon and work to restructure around protecting and supporting the two pop divas currently doing the heavy lifting in the conflict with the space bugs. Aside from Galaxy Fleet, the New UNS isn't a major player. Again, the heroes are the musicians and the (civlian) pilots who protect them. The music reinforces the message and peace is eventually had. Delta is this again and taken to the next logical extreme. Again, main protags are civilian military contractors and the NUNS are corrupt and/or incompetent. This time the Space Blackwater guys actually based their whole outfit around the concept of weaponized musicians and the core heroes are again civilian contractor pilots but now also a team of, essentially, paramilitary idol singers trained in covert ops and commando style raids because why the fuck not. The musicians are part of the action now rather than set pieces...just like they were in 7 (though they're not flying the planes this time) They use the force fields and hologram tech that's been a part of the stage shoes in universe since Plus and turned it into a quasi-magical girl commando gem and the holograms gimmick and it's great. Also the paramilitary contractors/record label are headed by a mysterious 'Lady M' with ties to the first space war and the OG Macross Crew. I have a Project/Lady M conspiracy theory loaded up and ready to go. Rather than Macross 7 being less like the other entries in the series, I would argue that the later entries are *more* like 7 than they are like the original. It marked the shift from military real robot space opera to mecha show about music and peace and not about governments and millilitres saving the day. (Even though the shift to Space Blackwater as the protagonist force has its own problems when thought too hard about in real world contexts LOL) Plus with Macross 7 it helps to consider Basara Nekki as an aspect of the setting or plot device rather than a character. He just is. He never learns, never changes, never grows and despite being an annoying prick, is usually right. The actual character stuff happens *around* him. Gamlin and Maeline in particular generally grow as people in how they learn to deal with the universal constant that is Basara's disruptive presence. He is the agent of change, a walking plot coupon. The characters are everyone else.
Aaaah, too bad you havent mentioned how Basara had to struggle and fight in his own way to avoid fighting and get everyone to listen to his song and understand its meaning, while everyone treats him as a nuisance on the battlefield at first and later on superficially enjoys his music. How close Basara comes at times to just give into his own anger and take a life.
While I myself hated Macross 7 and gave up about 13 episodes in because I basically wanted more of SDF Macross and Plus, it's actually great to hear someone who enjoyed this show for what it is.
I do understand where you are coming from as M7 is insanely slow to get going. But the themes that makes SDF and M+ beautiful does exist in M7, it just takes a very long time for it to really express it. I do feel overall M7 does its lineage proud as representing what SDF/M+ started. I dont feel macross really started losing its way until Frontier.
I found it a real slog up until that point - so many episodes where Basara annoys Mylene, Max and Milia have some sexual tension, the Protodevlin show up and Basara sings Planet Dance AGAIN, it gets way better after episode 12 or so - whenever the arc when City 7 gets separated from the fleet kicks off is when it improves. Apparently the advertising company who put up a lot of the production cash were getting great numbers on selling ad space for the show, and increased the episode order from 26-off episodes to 49, and the production staff scrambled to fill the additional episodes, hence all the filler.
I've been telling people for years to watch Macross 7. I've had people on my stream be like, "what anime is that wall scroll in your background?" At this point I turned it into a game where I would show people, then dare them to figure out the answer just based on the image. Only 4 people ever figured it out.
Unironically~ It's been almost a year since I watched Macross 7. So it's fun to see a video like this posted on the anniversary of me finishing it. It's a great show, also has it's adorable moments, after all I love Gamlin's arc from being a serious pilot to a huggable somewhat goofy teddy bear who actually actively believes in Basara's singing.
Omg you're missing out then, i haven't watched the entire series myself, but the way they all connect together and how they're individually great on their own is so- yes.
@@paraclonebasedtrooper8225 Going to disagree with that. I think Delta, characters included, was a way better show than Frontier. I don't think she was terrible at all. Really wanted MC, whatever his name was, to get with her instead.
i'm a gundam fan myself however macross is certainly cool fun fact the og jetfire toy from tranformers was a macross mecha and almost every jetifre design has somewhat of a inspiration from macross
@Kuwa Tacker The toy of Jetfire was absolutely a VF-1S with different paint and decals - the 1/55 scale toy released initially by Takatoku and reissued a few times by Bandai after they bought Takatoku out. Transformers took off to such a degree that Hasbro were scrambling to get more robot toys to fill out the 1985 catalogue, and they contracted with Bandai to gain access to Takatoku's output - the VF-1S became Jetfire, The Oberon Gazette from Dorvack became Whirl, while the Mugen Calibur from the same range became Roadbuster, and the Beet-Gadol, Beet-Gugal, Beet-Vadam and Beet-Zaguna from Beetras became Barrage, Ransack, Chop-Shop and Venom respectively. Of those characters, only Jetfire was planned to appear in the cartoon early on. There's an ad for the toy that includes animation using a character design closer to the toy than the character that appeared in the cartoon, but when Harmony Gold announced Robotech Hasbro apparently decided they didn't want to be advertising a toy that looked like a design in a competitor's show, they renamed Jetfire to Skyfire and redesigned the character. While the animation was early enough along to scrap and redo, the audio tracks had been recorded for Fire in the Sky and you can find various clips of characters saying "Jetfire" instead of "Skyfire" online. Skyfire was basically written out of the show as quickly as possible, not appearing after the first production block of series 2. While not every Jetfire toy is a deliberate homage to the VF-1, most of them have some reference back to it, usually the ability to bolt-on additional armour and weapons like the FAST Packs of the VF-1. Even the recent Siege Jetfire toy, which is explicitly based on Skyfire's animation design has armour parts.
this shit is my childhood back in the early 90's when this was still airing. bro had the og 90s Fire Valkyrie plastic kit. ... BOMBER! makes my 35 year old heart happy.
This is literally one of my favorite animes; thank you for making this. I have such joyful feelings associated with this show, and I still contend the sntks are some of the best out there from the time period. I still have my fansub vhs (tells you how old I am).
I like Macross 7 because Max was my favorite character in the original show and I'm glad we got to see Max and Millia's story continue. I won't kid myself though, it's pretty bad at times. Mecha is my favorite genre of anime so I'm thrilled to see you do a video like this.
The original Macross series along with the movie Do You Remember Love are my favorite anime. I just couldn't get into Macross 7. I didn't care for Macross Delta either. All other Macross titles I like, Frontier especially. It's still good to see any form of Macross getting love out there so thanks for bringing it to more people's attention. Deculture!!
Not gonna lie, I kind of hated Macross 7 at first when I started watching it right on the heels of Plus. It took me until about when Sybil shows up to really start to warm up to it, and then it became a fucking blast. Like you pointed out, it's got the same rambunctiously stupid energy and sincerity that makes G Gundam so great.
Holy shit. Literally just finished watching the series and its OVAs. It's top tier shit. But the best song has to be 'Holy Lonely Light' in which Basara blows the clothes off his space vampire waifu.
LOVE this video just as much as I adore Macross 7. This has been a franchise that has been with me since I was very little and has been a huge part of my formation as an anime fan. Macross 7 taught me to appreciate the more oddball type of anime. Also, I'd love to see a full video about the whole Harmony Gold situation and how it's still a problem to this day. I've been keeping up to date with it as best as possible, but I'd love to see a more organized compilation of all the info.
Haven't heard coverage of Maccross 7 since 1997! Thank you!!! I swear it feels so good seeing it covered!!! ( pretty much it inspired Legend of Black Heaven without the Mecha)
1:16 As Macross fan since 2007 I can tell you it is Macross Plus. 6:46 Yeap... And from M7 forwards all Macross do the same. 8:30 Hands down the best song of all M7 is "Angel Voice". I like it so much I did learn how to play guitar to play it.
Commenting now because this day history is made; Big West and Harmony Gold have resolved their decades long legal stoush which means Macross 7 and all the other series not released in the west are now open for western distribution!
I got into the series through Delta, but I think Frontier is a good starting point as well. They have unique designs, interesting characters and stellar soundtracks. The only other I could recommend is Plus, which is where Shinichiro Watanabe got his directorial start and first worked with Yoko Kanno.
Hi, I love your videos! Have you ever considered doing a video on The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya's endless eight saga? I've personally haven't watched the series and only found out about it from a Tumblr post, but it seemed like the kind of content you'd make a video about ^^
I respect your choice for favorite Macross 7 song and is probably my favorite too, but Planet Dance will always be the one that gets stuck in my head the most.
One of my favorite scenes: Ep15 Mylene: Atashi ga... BASARA NI?!!! MASAKA!!! 🤣 Second favorite? Ep44 Plan A: EVERYONE ATTACK!!! Plan B: Just Max kanchō in a blue VF-22!!! 🤣 I love this series. Just as much as the original, Macross Plus or Delta. Love a lot.
I absolutely loved Frontier, but I never really paid attention to the rest of the franchise until I heard Totsugeki Planet Explosion and I immediately fell in love with Fire Bomber.
I kind of feel like you undersold Mylene's role in the series a bit as, at leas, the more relatable focus character compared to Basara. Also my favorite M7 song is Submarine Street.
Mmmm. A fantastic song. Totsugeki Love Heart is such a basic answer, but what can you do when it's so good? Though I've also fallen in love with Virgin Story, myself.
I can still remember the melody of the opening, I have not thought of macross 7 since I finished reading the manga Macross 7 Trash like 15 years ago. I feel old now.
legit thank you so much for making this video, western internet desperately needs more high profile macross 7 positivity!!! needless to say, GREAT video!!!
My first Macross was Delta, loved it. Watched the Do You Remember Love, loved it, watched Macross Plus, loved it too! As a Brit I wasnt exposed to Robotech but im currently looking at that too to see how it is. I read the first collection of the new Robotech Remix comics and i thought it was pretty alright. Macross Delta and Robotech Remix are great ways to get into those series... But yanno. Harmony Gold.
If you're worried about missing out on context for Macross 7 if you're new to the franchise the only thing you're really missing out on is the long form of it's worlds set up, and an incredible ova starring Bryan Cranston that focuses mostly on where Basara's jet fighter originated from in an R&D competition on some military base off in space somewhere. Seriously you can start wherever you want, Macross can be thoroughly enjoyed out of order.
Majority don't get the message of Macross 7. While they prefer the solution of main character firing MMM & fire-everything dakka to finish off the big bad guy. Also hating on Basara (even though they're same personality as Basara).
Basara sucks as a main character. He has almost no growth over the series, never seems to realize any of his goals, and never manages to involve himself personally in the plot. His relationship with Mylene remains exactly at the same point at the end of 49 episodes than it was at the beginning - that's unforgivable in an anime that features a love triangle as one of its main plot threads. On the other hand, Gamlin grows a lot - he's my favorite character by far, and shooting missiles or lasers has *nothing* to do with it. His lovable personality, willingness to adapt and strong determination make him awesome.
Mecha is in a renaissance creatively, with plenty of great new shows in the past few years. The problem is just that nobody is *watching* them save for a small number of popular works (really just Voltron and the work of Studio Trigger, and even then, SSSS.Gridman was only big in Japan).
@@SecretIdentityStudio "Technically" Voltron is probably closer to super robot than a "proper" mecha series, and it's an American production. But it's certainly anime enough, same way Avatar is basically anime
@@popburnsy3207 I see super and real as equally proper mecha, just like witch, idol, warrior, and grimdark are all valid categories of magical girl. But yes, most of the new mecha series (anime or not) are super, though The Price of Smiles and Obsolete are real-type.
Totsugeki love heart is the song that made an entire fleet of space amazons in love with him. If anyone is dying by snu snu it would be basara definitely.
Even tho Nekki brings almost all of the atention in 7, my favourite characters will always be Gamlin and Mylene xD (And, well, obvuiously, Max) The music is incredible (Fire bomber is my fav group in the franchise), the plot is ok and it always be my favourite Macross series alongside Frontier.
For Macross F fans who doesn't know about this. There is a life-size cockpit of VF-25 fighter somewhere in Japan. It's cool. You'll also see it here in youtube.
My fave scene is episode one where Basara goes out to the battle and the commanders are on the bridge in confused silence and the zentradi general goes "is that a Lin Min Mei wanna be?"
Look like I'm a outcast since I grew up with Robotech and like it for the story since if centered on war and focus on the character. I remembering watching Macross 2 and Plus on Starz and Showtime beyond. It was 1985, animes wasn't easy to market back then, Don't want to flood the comment section with a long history.
Macross 7 used to be the most absurd Macross series. Then Macross Delta happened. I still prefer 7 but WOW is Macross Delta absurd. ALSO I have gained newfound appreciation for Macross 7 after Defunctland's Halyx documentary. After watching that I was sad we didn't have a space rockband show or movie...and then I remembered Macross 7 and WOW. While as a Macross series it's a bit silly, as a "I wanna see a space rockband show" show it's AMAZING. Also every other Macross focuses on idol singers so this is a nice breath of fresh air in that regard as well.
Was going to mention how busted Basara (and Milene in Alpha 3) is in SRW but you beat me to it. Will repeat it anyways, having access to the Sound Force changes the way you play completely.
Oddly, this was (not counting Robotech, which I hardly remember) my first encounter with Macross, thanks to the bit in the movie where Basara has a guitar duel with, you know, a giant green-haired lady who plays bass. *As you do*.
I love the supporting cast, though! The best couple of the original show, Max and Miria, get to go through marriage woes (after having SO many children!) with an awesome positive end. And meanwhile Milene is kind of the real protagonist, the forgotten nth child of two LEGENDARY figures, trying to find her own place in the world. And Gamlin, learning to soften up despite the hard pressures of military life tragedy. Also in 7 you have a different brand of love triangle (of sorts) since it's Milene struggling to choose the path set for her along Gamlin or to pursue chaotic freedom after the model Basara sets. Seven rocks.
That's a good way to describe the love triangle. It was never about one of them "winning". (Spoilers?) One point of the triangle was completely unreciprocated. It was always about what she wanted for herself. It's nice how as Gamlin changes he meets her in the middle, giving her freedom she needs.
I've seen the first macross series from the 80s and it is one my favorite anime despite the fact the original macros from the 80s is very old. I also watched it in the original version with subs.
Macross 7 is literally the Bard class of all mecha.
We accept thus statement
Yes
YES!
As a person who plays as a bard in DnD I approve!
*"Black Heaven (Kachou Ouji)"* is the Bard class of "Anime" (Saving the World with my Rock: The Anime)
SATURDAY NIGHT BRO
Ah yes the United States most powerful weapon, the Statue of Liberty cannon.
Dammit G Gundam
Powered by pure oil.
Haha and the general who gave the order to fire it is general MacArthur
I can’t tell if it’s offensive or funny
*Neo-America
We need more mecha love here in anitube. And in general.
Like Gundam. Gundam is "fun".
@@merrittanimation7721 *Insert cannon fodder intro song*
I agree more mecha love please
I noticed that there isn't much discussion for mecha anime on TH-cam. I am hoping to change that.
@@projectages9490 40th Anniversary of Macross
"Statue of Liberty Cannon"
Did a Gundam anime just upend Spaceballs?
By 'upend', do you mean 'make Mel Brooks look like an unimaginative hack'? Because G Gundam has, I kid you not, a Mermaid Gundam, Windmill Gundam, and a heart-shaped final attack that is literally powered by love.
G Gundam cure Tomino depression
@Pye22 I think what Zaini meant is that G Gundam cures the depression caused by watching Tomino gundams. If that isn't what he meant, then you're right.
@@Vesperitis Given how frequently they've used Tequila Gundam as a base for characters in Build Fighters, it baffles me that it still doesn't have a kit.
@@ccggenius I'm just here waiting for model kits for gundams that aren't Domon's. Seriously, I think modern Devil Gundam or shuffle alliance gundams would absolutely be killer.
Macross
The only anime to fight giant space alien with the power of j pop and rock with transformable airplne mech
Also kissing. Don't forget kissing.
I say this often, but Nekki Basara is less a character, more a walking force of nature, which I think is his appeal.
While Gamlin and Mylene and the Rest of the Guys and Protodevilians are more the real people who reacts and gets effected by the endless inhuman spirit of Basara.
Hmm interesting comment
Hes also based on Lynn Minmay
@@yiwoon_cr8s More like the unholy love child of Geddy Lee, John Lennon, and Son Goku..
I whole heartedly agree.
You're high. M7 is just a parody of Macross.
Curse you Harmony Gold for denying us all the additional Macross series.
Good thing they didn't touch Gaogaigar
Well, I think Tetsunoko have fair share of blame too.
@@powerist209 cant really blame tatsunoko, their studio is in the verge of bankruptcy, and every macross sdf money help them stay afloat
Luckily Macross sequels can come over here due to harmony gold and big west having peace treaty quote on quote.
@@OmegaKatanaXIII In theory, but the release of said content has been really slow. I'm a little concerned that Macross Shooting Insight for PS4/PS5/Switch was delayed, but that might just be my overall paranoia.
As someone who likes SDF Macross more than the rest of the franchise combined, I wouldn't mind if they threw out the original agreement. For fans in my predicament, the deal is simply not a good one.
Fun Fact: Nekki Basara has two VAs one for speaking (Nobutoshi Hayashi) and one for singing (Yoshiki Fukuyama). The singing VA is nowadays a member of JAM Project
Yoshiko Fukuyama also has a functional replica of Basara's guitar and uses it for concerts because the man is rad as hell
I AM HERE FOR THIS. It feels good to see a video with genuine love for a franchise I adore come out on youtube. It is so rare. Also you should do the harmony gold video, and many others like me and Gwyn Campbell would most likely love to help get you all the info you need to do it. I really wish Western anime fans would give even a second to respect and appreciate classics like Macross, Gundam, and ESPECIALLY Space Battleship Yamato, who's amazing remake 2199 is legally available in the west. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for making this video.
A video on why Harmony Gold sucks is pretty high on my to-do list, rest assured. I'm juggling two pretty big video projects right now, but once they're done, I'll probably start research for Harmony Gold pretty quick. DM me on Twitter, so I know how to contact you! If you think you can provide me with some useful info/links on HG, I'd be super thankful!
Red Bard glady!!
@@RedBardIsCool i would try and talk to Kenny Lauderdale as well he's a good one to team up with if you're talking about anime history stuff too
I was more shocked to find out this is where the leaf eating anime boy came from.
I was more shocked Red Bard and Dan actually pronounce it ma-CROSS instead of MA-cross. I know it's just my ADHD brain focusing on something trivial, but it's like hearing someone saying "window" as win-DOW and I just can't...
@@Maverick2736 Yes exactly! Ever since I knew the macross series, I've been calling it Mah-cross in my head instead of Meh-cross. I checked a little online and it looks like the ADV english dub pronounces in Meh-cross, while the Jp dub pronounces it Mah-ku-ro-su
I love that Koyasu Takehito can sing well, he just (for so many characters) chooses not to
He sings better than that as Gamlin in the show! He's definitely a character actor. 😂
My answer to the "Can I jump into Macross 7 as the starting point of the Macross series" question is, if I could jump into Macross Plus with zero context as a 12-year-old weeb back in the day, anything is possible!
Yep! It's largely a good thing that by the end of most series the central conflict with whatever alien or AI or two former bros or shadowy space government cabal is basically resolved.
But, the real treat, for me, is when a song from a previous series turns up(especially as we now have a bigger variety of songs. Thanks in no small part to the work of Kanno and Fukuyama) sung by characters that are fans of the in-universe bands/performers. The kids breaking out in a campfire rendition of Remember 16 is a big highlight of Macross Delta for me.
Macross Plus is also where the director of Cowboy Bebop and Yoko Kanno both debuted.
Very true, and Plus is a good entry point. Would include SDF, DYRL, or Frontier as jumping on points.
"Can" is yes, but "should" is probably no. You get more out of 7 once you have context from SDF.
Commander adama of BSG Reimagined eat your heart out.
Defending G Gundam is a hill I'm willing to die on
General anime fans tend to think G Gundam is hated or something but among Gundam fans it's pretty highly regarded.
G Gundam has memorable scenes, an iconic soundtrack, and a story that is surprisingly emotional and not entirely depressing. You've got a lot of company on that hill.
Watch it subbed, though. Tomokazu Seki gives the performance of a lifetime.
I'll gladly join you, comrade.
Same.
I will join you on that hill.
I love all of Macross and its trifecta: Mecha, Music and Muses. It's brilliant. While my absolute favorite is Macross Plus (Movie Edition) as a subversion of the formula and for its story, I love Zero, SDF, DYRL, 7 and Frontier and Delta too. They all have their own unique tone and feel despite having a shared theme and timeline.
Macross plus my favorite as well
Macross II is canon, stop ignoring it.
What makes it really difficult to describe Macross to others is the plot itself really isn't important. What makes a Macross anime Macross is these ethereal concepts that are difficult to put into words. This broad conceptual idea of humanity, love, culture, the things that breaks us apart, things that make us different, and the things that ultimately bring us together. Especially when discuss SDF, M+, and M7. While MF and MD get lot of the macross ethereal concepts right, it also missses the mark on others.
So how do you actually describe such ethereal concepts to someone where it not them separately but how they all come together to essentially write a love song for the galaxy that creates this common culture across all alien species. I am sure for people who never seen SDF, M+, and M7 just saying that sounds insane. But when your deep in that world, it makes 100% sense.
I dont think its too difficult to describe the series to anyone and properly get across the themes used, atleast not for the original series, DYRL, and Macross 2. Love is stronger than hate, our enemies might not be all evil but instead ignorant or manipulated, working together we can overcome any obstacle sometimes love is toxic. There are so many more that i cant think of but they are easier to get across using examples from the shows and movies. I think its when grouping the many different series as a whole that things begin to get messy. They dont all feel like they belong to the same franchise and end up feeling like the japanese version of Harmony Gold. They vary in success getting across the themes they all share in common, the themes that have become staples that the franchise is known for to the point that some feel shoehorned in to say that its there and others are blown out of proportion and the show basically becomes about a single subject.
As a standalone, my favorite is Dynamite Explosion. Overall though, I like the story that Try Again tells, how it fits into the story and how it is a song that only gets completed in the final episode with Basara's epiphany at the end.
Also Gamlin yelling "Everyone, listen to Basara's Song!" in SRW Z2 is one of the most heartwarming feelgood moments in crossover history. Dan knows what I'm talking about.
Your in some crazy mecha war and all of a sudden some hippie starting singing Never Gonna Give You Up
It would be even cooler and funnier if it was some dude with a backwards cap singing Limp Bizkit songs 🤣
Oh, Macross 7.
As someone I know once said: "everyone who watches Macross 7, ends up liking Basara".
Also, I'd love to watch the Harmony Gold video! Everything that entire company did is sketchy.
Just the fact that the original creator of Macross, Shoji Kawamori, doesn't acknowledge Robotech should say a lot.
In my experience, Basara is a divisive character. You either love him for his moral ideals or hate him for his complete lack of consideration of social rules. He works on his own schedule, changes the agenda at the drop of a hat, ignores access restrictions, and frequently goes on walkabout.
I like that the show regular reflects this and uses it to induce growth in other characters (even if Basara never has any).
it made me from kid who don't care about music start to hum in school...
I was waiting to hear something along the lines of, "Harmony Gold sucks." I was not disappointed.
I'm still pissed there's a chance they extended their distribution licence for 35 years.
And the fact that Big West and Satelight don't care at all, doesn't help. That was very clear after we saw Macross Delta.
@@aersiul That's not entirely.....accurate. Big West has been doing a big legal tour to Stop Harmony Gold. Hell, they just won in China of all places.
far future, after disney ruling every media and every ip in the existence, harmony gold still owns robotech
This video rules! It’s wonderful to see someone talk about Macross in 2020. Energetic as always and plenty fun. Love this channel.
I watched Macross 7 for the first time last year, and I can confidently say that it rocked my nuts off.
Macross 7 is so underrated imo! Thank you for spreading the love!
I love the casual Super Robot Wars plug right at the end
My favorite game series
Fun Trivia: Basara's speaking VA Nobutoshi Canna is also Knuckles the Echidna from Sonic Franchise, Cu Chulainn from Fate Stay Night, Ryo Takatsuki from Project ARMS, Guts in Berserk 1997, Ban Midou from Getbackers, Kabuto Yakushi from Naruto, Nnoitra from Bleach, Tasuki from Fushigi Yuugi, Roland from Digital Devil Saga 2, and Takaya from Persona 3.
Pretty underapreciated seiyuu in the West.
He and Takehito were in sooo many things together. Incredibly prolific actors at the time.
It warms me to see new Macross discussion videos on youtube. And so glad someone actually talks about Macross 7 in a positive light. So many just hate on 7, completely missing the point of it. Or they are just blinded by Robotech.
Favorite song is 'DYNAMITE EXPLOSION'.
I don't think people are blinded by Robotech. The reason why people disliked Macross 7, Delta and Frontier, because it Throws away what Macross Succeeded and throw Realism and Logic away to the Garbage. My Honesty. I liked 7, but i wish 7 was its own Universe than being Canon from the Original Macross. Same goes Zero, Frontier and Delta. The magic Singing is quite bullshit. Especially it defeats the purpose of Culture.
I would argue that Macross 7 is the most Macross Macross to ever Macross and was highly influential to later shows like Frontier and Delta. It takes the messages of peace and music and culture as a way of ending conflict and puts it front and center.
Macross tried to be a real robot military drama and features a lot of pro-military vibes and the outsider main character assimilates practically overnight and becomes a war hero. Minmei is a useful and unexpected weapon, and the themes of love and unity are touched on with the Jenius family but that's about it.
Plus/7 came out close to the same time and represented a major fork in the road for Macross as a franchise
Macross Plus was literally the military industrial complex equipping two equally shitty people with the latest cutting edge gear and having them duke it out for a defense contract. Even the music is corporate and souless as the musical act is an AI who does crazy AI shit. (The actual soundtrack is great, but the idea of the plot is basically a rogue vocaloid causes some shit) and could have been replaced with basically any plot device without changing the love triangle/rivalry/shitty people showcase. Make main girl a scientist developing a military defense AI and it's the same show. I love Macross Plus, but it was Macross trying to be about robots with music as a gimmick
Macross 7 is where Macross stopped trying to be a mecha series WITH music and fully admitted to being a Mecha series ABOUT music.
The UNS Government is shown to be lacking in competence at best, or downright corrupt and uncaring at worst. The main characters are fringe oddly militarized antiwar rock stars and a military fighter ace who (spoilers) ends up joining the civilian run civil defense forces headed by the Mayor rather than the military commander in charge of the fleet overall. The military's role for the protags is mainly as support for the main characters and only reluctantly so once they realize music can once again be used as a weapon. It hints at an ongoing project (Project M) that had been developed to study weaponizing music since the events of the first series and the UNS command are very much not to be trusted. The fleet commander is cool because he's Max Friggin Jenius, fighter ace and first human to bone a giant space woman from the OG series. His half-blood daughter is one of the main characters and is essentially a symbol of the peace they can attain through music and culture.
The musicians are the heroes, the military are arguably secondary antagonists half the time.
Lead on to Frontier where the main heroes are civilian military contractors and the actual military/government forces are again inept and/or corrupt. This time the contractors realize that once again music is a weapon and work to restructure around protecting and supporting the two pop divas currently doing the heavy lifting in the conflict with the space bugs. Aside from Galaxy Fleet, the New UNS isn't a major player. Again, the heroes are the musicians and the (civlian) pilots who protect them. The music reinforces the message and peace is eventually had.
Delta is this again and taken to the next logical extreme. Again, main protags are civilian military contractors and the NUNS are corrupt and/or incompetent. This time the Space Blackwater guys actually based their whole outfit around the concept of weaponized musicians and the core heroes are again civilian contractor pilots but now also a team of, essentially, paramilitary idol singers trained in covert ops and commando style raids because why the fuck not. The musicians are part of the action now rather than set pieces...just like they were in 7 (though they're not flying the planes this time) They use the force fields and hologram tech that's been a part of the stage shoes in universe since Plus and turned it into a quasi-magical girl commando gem and the holograms gimmick and it's great. Also the paramilitary contractors/record label are headed by a mysterious 'Lady M' with ties to the first space war and the OG Macross Crew. I have a Project/Lady M conspiracy theory loaded up and ready to go.
Rather than Macross 7 being less like the other entries in the series, I would argue that the later entries are *more* like 7 than they are like the original. It marked the shift from military real robot space opera to mecha show about music and peace and not about governments and millilitres saving the day. (Even though the shift to Space Blackwater as the protagonist force has its own problems when thought too hard about in real world contexts LOL)
Plus with Macross 7 it helps to consider Basara Nekki as an aspect of the setting or plot device rather than a character. He just is. He never learns, never changes, never grows and despite being an annoying prick, is usually right. The actual character stuff happens *around* him. Gamlin and Maeline in particular generally grow as people in how they learn to deal with the universal constant that is Basara's disruptive presence. He is the agent of change, a walking plot coupon. The characters are everyone else.
TL;DR: Macross 7 represents when Macross went from a Mecha Anime WITH music to a mecha anime ABOUT music and it never looked back.
If Macross 7 is not Best Macross, it certainly has the best music.
Also cutest animal sidekick.
Fluffy Guvava is just too cute.
Yes, indeed, I love how over the top Evangelion is too.
Or most of the Gundam series with all the death and moral ambiguity.
ah yes those creamy donuts sure are messy
haha fanta
more like pretentious and arrogant...
Aaaah, too bad you havent mentioned how Basara had to struggle and fight in his own way to avoid fighting and get everyone to listen to his song and understand its meaning, while everyone treats him as a nuisance on the battlefield at first and later on superficially enjoys his music. How close Basara comes at times to just give into his own anger and take a life.
While I myself hated Macross 7 and gave up about 13 episodes in because I basically wanted more of SDF Macross and Plus, it's actually great to hear someone who enjoyed this show for what it is.
Would you give it another chance with the info this video gives you now?
@@Hawwwlucha I wouldn't fault anyone for not liking this show. It's way too long for how repetitive it can be.
I do understand where you are coming from as M7 is insanely slow to get going. But the themes that makes SDF and M+ beautiful does exist in M7, it just takes a very long time for it to really express it. I do feel overall M7 does its lineage proud as representing what SDF/M+ started. I dont feel macross really started losing its way until Frontier.
I found it a real slog up until that point - so many episodes where Basara annoys Mylene, Max and Milia have some sexual tension, the Protodevlin show up and Basara sings Planet Dance AGAIN, it gets way better after episode 12 or so - whenever the arc when City 7 gets separated from the fleet kicks off is when it improves.
Apparently the advertising company who put up a lot of the production cash were getting great numbers on selling ad space for the show, and increased the episode order from 26-off episodes to 49, and the production staff scrambled to fill the additional episodes, hence all the filler.
I've been telling people for years to watch Macross 7. I've had people on my stream be like, "what anime is that wall scroll in your background?" At this point I turned it into a game where I would show people, then dare them to figure out the answer just based on the image.
Only 4 people ever figured it out.
Unironically~ It's been almost a year since I watched Macross 7. So it's fun to see a video like this posted on the anniversary of me finishing it.
It's a great show, also has it's adorable moments, after all I love Gamlin's arc from being a serious pilot to a huggable somewhat goofy teddy bear who actually actively believes in Basara's singing.
i’m so happy someone is finally talking about M7 holy shit
0:14 Martian Successor Nadesico!! 👍🏻 I have all but one volume of the Spanish manga, I wish I could get it to complete the collection.
I was only ever aware of Macross Delta and had no idea it was an entire franchise, fascinating video as always!
Dude, Macross has characters right up your alley you'll love it
Omg you're missing out then, i haven't watched the entire series myself, but the way they all connect together and how they're individually great on their own is so- yes.
Delta quite literally has a main character who is the granddaughter of a character from the original series.
@@TheYoungVulnerableAnimeGirls but destroyed when they try to add a Tsundere of a Decendent of a Great Mecha pilot.
@@paraclonebasedtrooper8225 Going to disagree with that. I think Delta, characters included, was a way better show than Frontier. I don't think she was terrible at all. Really wanted MC, whatever his name was, to get with her instead.
i'm a gundam fan myself however macross is certainly cool fun fact the og jetfire toy from tranformers was a macross mecha and almost every jetifre design has somewhat of a inspiration from macross
@Kuwa Tacker The toy of Jetfire was absolutely a VF-1S with different paint and decals - the 1/55 scale toy released initially by Takatoku and reissued a few times by Bandai after they bought Takatoku out. Transformers took off to such a degree that Hasbro were scrambling to get more robot toys to fill out the 1985 catalogue, and they contracted with Bandai to gain access to Takatoku's output - the VF-1S became Jetfire, The Oberon Gazette from Dorvack became Whirl, while the Mugen Calibur from the same range became Roadbuster, and the Beet-Gadol, Beet-Gugal, Beet-Vadam and Beet-Zaguna from Beetras became Barrage, Ransack, Chop-Shop and Venom respectively.
Of those characters, only Jetfire was planned to appear in the cartoon early on. There's an ad for the toy that includes animation using a character design closer to the toy than the character that appeared in the cartoon, but when Harmony Gold announced Robotech Hasbro apparently decided they didn't want to be advertising a toy that looked like a design in a competitor's show, they renamed Jetfire to Skyfire and redesigned the character. While the animation was early enough along to scrap and redo, the audio tracks had been recorded for Fire in the Sky and you can find various clips of characters saying "Jetfire" instead of "Skyfire" online. Skyfire was basically written out of the show as quickly as possible, not appearing after the first production block of series 2.
While not every Jetfire toy is a deliberate homage to the VF-1, most of them have some reference back to it, usually the ability to bolt-on additional armour and weapons like the FAST Packs of the VF-1. Even the recent Siege Jetfire toy, which is explicitly based on Skyfire's animation design has armour parts.
Seen SDF Marcross and the movie. I haven't seen Macross 7 but my friend owns it and I bought the soundtrack.
this shit is my childhood back in the early 90's when this was still airing. bro had the og 90s Fire Valkyrie plastic kit. ... BOMBER! makes my 35 year old heart happy.
I've never seen mecha, but this anime sounds so wild i might give it a try.
It's never too late to start.
So *THAT'S* where that leaf eating gif is from...guess i'll watch Macross.
My personal favorite mecha series is Getter Robo just gonna say.
This is literally one of my favorite animes; thank you for making this. I have such joyful feelings associated with this show, and I still contend the sntks are some of the best out there from the time period. I still have my fansub vhs (tells you how old I am).
NGL, Statue of Liberty does seem like it would be a cannon. Not surprised it was featured in a Gundam anime, LOL. Thanks for the video!
It's not even out of character for the US lbr
I like Macross 7 because Max was my favorite character in the original show and I'm glad we got to see Max and Millia's story continue. I won't kid myself though, it's pretty bad at times. Mecha is my favorite genre of anime so I'm thrilled to see you do a video like this.
The original Macross series along with the movie Do You Remember Love are my favorite anime. I just couldn't get into Macross 7. I didn't care for Macross Delta either. All other Macross titles I like, Frontier especially. It's still good to see any form of Macross getting love out there so thanks for bringing it to more people's attention. Deculture!!
Not gonna lie, I kind of hated Macross 7 at first when I started watching it right on the heels of Plus. It took me until about when Sybil shows up to really start to warm up to it, and then it became a fucking blast. Like you pointed out, it's got the same rambunctiously stupid energy and sincerity that makes G Gundam so great.
Holy shit. Literally just finished watching the series and its OVAs.
It's top tier shit.
But the best song has to be 'Holy Lonely Light' in which Basara blows the clothes off his space vampire waifu.
"his space vampire waifu" I freaking love you for calling Sivil that!
Everybody else: "...but he loves Mylene!"
Me: burn in h... !
His one true waifu is his song :p
LOVE this video just as much as I adore Macross 7. This has been a franchise that has been with me since I was very little and has been a huge part of my formation as an anime fan. Macross 7 taught me to appreciate the more oddball type of anime.
Also, I'd love to see a full video about the whole Harmony Gold situation and how it's still a problem to this day. I've been keeping up to date with it as best as possible, but I'd love to see a more organized compilation of all the info.
Came here from Sarah Z and instantly clicked on this video because Macross 7 is the best and I love it to death
Haven't heard coverage of Maccross 7 since 1997! Thank you!!! I swear it feels so good seeing it covered!!! ( pretty much it inspired Legend of Black Heaven without the Mecha)
It happened! Thanks RightStuf anime!
I'm not afraid to say SRW games introduced me to this gem.
You impress me every video, its rare people know so much about Macross
Welp, looks like I'm watching Macross 7 now.
1:16 As Macross fan since 2007 I can tell you it is Macross Plus.
6:46 Yeap... And from M7 forwards all Macross do the same.
8:30 Hands down the best song of all M7 is "Angel Voice". I like it so much I did learn how to play guitar to play it.
I haven't watched macross 7 in a long time and I've been reduced to just thinking dynamite explosion everytime I hear about it.
Commenting now because this day history is made; Big West and Harmony Gold have resolved their decades long legal stoush which means Macross 7 and all the other series not released in the west are now open for western distribution!
THE POWER OF MUSIC BE-AWCH. . .god I love 20th century Macross.
I got into the series through Delta, but I think Frontier is a good starting point as well. They have unique designs, interesting characters and stellar soundtracks. The only other I could recommend is Plus, which is where Shinichiro Watanabe got his directorial start and first worked with Yoko Kanno.
Hi, I love your videos! Have you ever considered doing a video on The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya's endless eight saga? I've personally haven't watched the series and only found out about it from a Tumblr post, but it seemed like the kind of content you'd make a video about ^^
I respect your choice for favorite Macross 7 song and is probably my favorite too, but Planet Dance will always be the one that gets stuck in my head the most.
Thank you for bringing Macross and Macross 7 to the spotlight. I love how crazy 7 is but at the same time coherent.
‼‼‼🔥🔥 FIRE 🔥🔥‼‼‼
One of my favorite scenes:
Ep15
Mylene: Atashi ga... BASARA NI?!!! MASAKA!!! 🤣
Second favorite?
Ep44
Plan A: EVERYONE ATTACK!!!
Plan B: Just Max kanchō in a blue VF-22!!! 🤣
I love this series. Just as much as the original, Macross Plus or Delta. Love a lot.
I absolutely loved Frontier, but I never really paid attention to the rest of the franchise until I heard Totsugeki Planet Explosion and I immediately fell in love with Fire Bomber.
I kind of feel like you undersold Mylene's role in the series a bit as, at leas, the more relatable focus character compared to Basara.
Also my favorite M7 song is Submarine Street.
Mmmm. A fantastic song.
Totsugeki Love Heart is such a basic answer, but what can you do when it's so good?
Though I've also fallen in love with Virgin Story, myself.
I can still remember the melody of the opening, I have not thought of macross 7 since I finished reading the manga Macross 7 Trash like 15 years ago.
I feel old now.
you didnt even mention the space vampires.
Not even a minute in and you've already brought up the space whales. I wish I could forget I ever saw those OVAs.
legit thank you so much for making this video, western internet desperately needs more high profile macross 7 positivity!!! needless to say, GREAT video!!!
My first Macross was Delta, loved it. Watched the Do You Remember Love, loved it, watched Macross Plus, loved it too! As a Brit I wasnt exposed to Robotech but im currently looking at that too to see how it is. I read the first collection of the new Robotech Remix comics and i thought it was pretty alright. Macross Delta and Robotech Remix are great ways to get into those series... But yanno. Harmony Gold.
I love this show so much. I always tell people if you have to start with one, watch 7. It is well worth it!
amazing video thank both you and dan for blessing my day ^_^
I was obsessed with this series years ago,love every song!
"Well, there's a short answer and a long answer"
i see what you did here
I've been meaning to get into Macross though it seemed daunting - but now I know of perfectly suitable entry point!
Dynamite Explosion once again!
If you're worried about missing out on context for Macross 7 if you're new to the franchise the only thing you're really missing out on is the long form of it's worlds set up, and an incredible ova starring Bryan Cranston that focuses mostly on where Basara's jet fighter originated from in an R&D competition on some military base off in space somewhere. Seriously you can start wherever you want, Macross can be thoroughly enjoyed out of order.
Good to see some Macross 7 love here!
Majority don't get the message of Macross 7.
While they prefer the solution of main character firing MMM & fire-everything dakka to finish off the big bad guy.
Also hating on Basara (even though they're same personality as Basara).
Basara sucks as a main character. He has almost no growth over the series, never seems to realize any of his goals, and never manages to involve himself personally in the plot. His relationship with Mylene remains exactly at the same point at the end of 49 episodes than it was at the beginning - that's unforgivable in an anime that features a love triangle as one of its main plot threads. On the other hand, Gamlin grows a lot - he's my favorite character by far, and shooting missiles or lasers has *nothing* to do with it. His lovable personality, willingness to adapt and strong determination make him awesome.
You sold me on this as soon as you made the G Gundam comparison.
This came to us in a dire time of need--what with the mecha genre as a whole dying.
Mecha is in a renaissance creatively, with plenty of great new shows in the past few years. The problem is just that nobody is *watching* them save for a small number of popular works (really just Voltron and the work of Studio Trigger, and even then, SSSS.Gridman was only big in Japan).
@@SecretIdentityStudio "Technically" Voltron is probably closer to super robot than a "proper" mecha series, and it's an American production. But it's certainly anime enough, same way Avatar is basically anime
@@popburnsy3207 I see super and real as equally proper mecha, just like witch, idol, warrior, and grimdark are all valid categories of magical girl. But yes, most of the new mecha series (anime or not) are super, though The Price of Smiles and Obsolete are real-type.
@@SecretIdentityStudio that's entirely fair
i blame evangelion for that... and darling...
My favorite song is Holy Lonely Light.
My generation: Macross 7(loves with Milee sings), Gundam Wing(HeeroxLilina, Duo and Quarte), Neketsu Saikyo Gosaurer, Sailormoon, Ultraman, Dragonball Z, Power rangers, Slayers Try, Ojamajo Doremi, Digimon, Nanoha.
"What's that thing over there?"
"That's neo america's ultimate weapon, THE STATUE OF LIBERTY CANNON!!!"
God i love G Gundam...
Totsugeki love heart is the song that made an entire fleet of space amazons in love with him. If anyone is dying by snu snu it would be basara definitely.
Looks like a really awesome entry. Is just a shame it never left Japan along with the other entries thanks to Harmony Gold's copyright troll.
Even tho Nekki brings almost all of the atention in 7, my favourite characters will always be Gamlin and Mylene xD (And, well, obvuiously, Max)
The music is incredible (Fire bomber is my fav group in the franchise), the plot is ok and it always be my favourite Macross series alongside Frontier.
Finally someone talk about Macross series.
For Macross F fans who doesn't know about this. There is a life-size cockpit of VF-25 fighter somewhere in Japan. It's cool. You'll also see it here in youtube.
My fave scene is episode one where Basara goes out to the battle and the commanders are on the bridge in confused silence and the zentradi general goes "is that a Lin Min Mei wanna be?"
PLEASE make that video explaining the Robotech connection, I would love to watch that
Look like I'm a outcast since I grew up with Robotech and like it for the story since if centered on war and focus on the character. I remembering watching Macross 2 and Plus on Starz and Showtime beyond. It was 1985, animes wasn't easy to market back then, Don't want to flood the comment section with a long history.
Never heard of this anime, thanks for the introduction!!!
Macross 7 used to be the most absurd Macross series. Then Macross Delta happened.
I still prefer 7 but WOW is Macross Delta absurd.
ALSO I have gained newfound appreciation for Macross 7 after Defunctland's Halyx documentary. After watching that I was sad we didn't have a space rockband show or movie...and then I remembered Macross 7 and WOW. While as a Macross series it's a bit silly, as a "I wanna see a space rockband show" show it's AMAZING. Also every other Macross focuses on idol singers so this is a nice breath of fresh air in that regard as well.
Was going to mention how busted Basara (and Milene in Alpha 3) is in SRW but you beat me to it. Will repeat it anyways, having access to the Sound Force changes the way you play completely.
Oddly, this was (not counting Robotech, which I hardly remember) my first encounter with Macross, thanks to the bit in the movie where Basara has a guitar duel with, you know, a giant green-haired lady who plays bass. *As you do*.
It's just Macross not Muh-cross. Thank you for your video! I love Macross 7 too (and all of the rest).
Damn you ADV.
I love the supporting cast, though! The best couple of the original show, Max and Miria, get to go through marriage woes (after having SO many children!) with an awesome positive end. And meanwhile Milene is kind of the real protagonist, the forgotten nth child of two LEGENDARY figures, trying to find her own place in the world. And Gamlin, learning to soften up despite the hard pressures of military life tragedy.
Also in 7 you have a different brand of love triangle (of sorts) since it's Milene struggling to choose the path set for her along Gamlin or to pursue chaotic freedom after the model Basara sets.
Seven rocks.
That's a good way to describe the love triangle. It was never about one of them "winning".
(Spoilers?)
One point of the triangle was completely unreciprocated. It was always about what she wanted for herself. It's nice how as Gamlin changes he meets her in the middle, giving her freedom she needs.
I've seen the first macross series from the 80s and it is one my favorite anime despite the fact the original macros from the 80s is very old. I also watched it in the original version with subs.
Mylene was my first 'official' cosplay. I still have my Gubaba plush that my friend made for me. This was back in '97 or so.
The main song from Do You Remember Love has been a favorite for three decades