@@bionicznycar6783 The scene isn't meant to be historically accurate, it's a video game that serves as alien propaganda, hence why Aristotle, Pope Gregory, Copernicus, Galileo, and Sir Francis Bacon appear together.
@@JohnJohnson-vq7ze the other people trying to convince the pope are real players on earth, it is the aliens way of testing to see who is worthy to help them
When you think about it, you can understand the ruthlessness of the trisolarians. They went through unpredictable succession of apocalypses of increasing magnitude, their only hope was to colonize earth and they couldn't make the gamble of negotiating with earth due to different reasons (the nature of the dark forest mostly and their own biology if you count the expanded material as canon).
@@ginjaedgy49 i would argue the universe descibed by liu cixin is actually darker than wh40k. It's like there is multiple galactic civilisation comparable to full powered necrons, and they are all out to get each other and any younger civilisation and they don't care about the collateral damages. And your only chances are to become just like them or to hide and hope they won't find you. And everyone is making the whole universe worse for everyone else.
The Trisolarans are literally the size of a grain of rice.. like an ant.. so yeah Starbucks will make a killing selling a cup of coffee to them at that size
@@eduardovillagomez3675 The three body problem is actually the scientific name for it. It doesn't have to involve stars, it just happens to for this story.
This show is amazing. I could not stop watching till i finished. I stayed up over 24 hours lmao No one is reviewing it, which is crazy. I feel like starting a youtube channel just to review it lmao
It's based on a better novel series and it's pretty well known in the Sci Fi community. The amount of changes they made on top of it being a very difficult story to tell means it's going to scare away both niche and mainstream viewers.
@@GizmoMalteseno havent read it. But I did a lot of TH-cam vids on this. This book series is really wild tbh. The fact that it’s not even impossible to happen like being annihilated by a crazy advance alien planet is what makes you think about stuff that you don’t even consider in life. Hope this will not happen in a considerable future because earth is still ancient in terms of technology.
@@Raiya_ru17 Yea, the question is would you be depressed knowing that Earth will be invaded by an advanced race in 400 years long after you're dead? It's an interesting question. And one of the themes of the books is survival at what cost. How far are we willing to go to survive?
@@GizmoMaltese I think if you're a civilian who does not contribute to science in any way, the best route is to not care about it. You're going to live a proper life till your great grand children become old. If you were of the other category of people who feel the cosmic dread and want to do something, what would you even do? Think of physics graduates, who have a degree and have somehow come to know that science is broken and anyone who tries to be smart is finished by cultists. What do you do? I haven't read the books, but I have a good idea where this story is going. There will be contact and possibly a lot of hibernation. I've read about the Dark Forest hypothesis and know that a third civilization has to get involved if humans fail to protect themselves. The cosmic dread part cannot be helped. You will live a peaceful, normal life. You will understand that the world will be destroyed soon. That all history will be burnt to ashes, with nobody to remember humanity. That's how it is in a dark forest i guess.
The Chinese version is far superior. They made so many changes to the story for "dumb" Americans it isnt even the same story anymore. But hey, they made it diverse so you should still feel good...
In what other show can you get a line like, 'Suck it, Copernicus!'? Absolute genius. (And such a brilliant idea to make Jin Cheng the protagonist of this thread, setting up her massive role for the future.)
“Kaz hated a puzzle he couldn't solve, and he and Inej had concocted a hundred theories to account for the murder - none of which satisfied.” - Six of Crows
@@einsam_aber_frei if it was historically accurate it would be XONojnSOIUDHOSEJBFJEFEIOJJJ, King of Trisolaria but the point is its not really meant to be.
I wonder if the violent, and superstitious deaths of “Galileo,” “Turing,” “Newton,” and “Aristotle” are there on purpose. Like, the show is trying to illustrate that the San-Ti also experienced dark ages and scientific collapse due to superstitions, but they endured them better than humans did. Also, the eras chosen here to be depicted also seem important. Mongol China, Medieval England, and Renaissance Italy were all periods of intellectual and scientific opposition (relatively speaking to other eras in human history). It illustrates that the San-Ti weathered their superstitions similar to humans, and perhaps even better than humans. Galileo and Turing are generally regarded as martyrs of science, less so for Aristotle and Newton. However, their work did experience significant pushback from human superstition. Somehow, the San-Ti’s scientific tradition was preserved through their collective-like intelligence, so they didn’t really experience dark ages like we did. They really, and unfortunately for humanity, deserve to survive; in a sense, they’re like an apex predator, but on a civilizational scale. It also establishes, however, that the San-Ti are no better than us morally speaking, much to Evans’ and Wenjie’s horror. They still possess a strain of ignorance toward scientific progress, despite their extreme collective intelligence. And perhaps far worse, they have no literary or cultural tradition. They’re a species that could never produce something as beautiful, and *human*, as Silent Spring. The only purpose that science serves to them is survival. The San-Ti have no symbiosis between the humanities and science.
I don't think so. They're other players, that's why they all act strange and modern to us. "Suck it Copernicus" doesn't sound like something Aristotle or Galileo would say haha
@@kamilornal7525You're right, they're part of the organization since the game is monitored by them. Also, 2 of them would likely be chosen as Wallbreakers, what their mission is, is well you can guess by thinking about the Wallfacer's mission.
Turing wasn’t a Martyr for science either. He ended himself because of prevailing attitudes towards his sexuality at the time. You made up a complete fanciful narrative in your head about human history and I’m sure you think you’re a very evidenced based fellow when what you said was nonsense
Galileo wasn’t a martyr for science he wasn’t a martyr at all. He got house arrest for insulting the pope but was still allowed to publish scientific works.
How did the Trisolaran civilization ever last long enough to become so technologically advanced if they lived in such a chaotic 3-sun world? Did they only recently acquire the additional suns?
I dont think they had to start from scratch again every single time. With the dehydrating and all. They might loose all their infrastructure but knowledge could still be passed on between generations. Its a huge setback each and every time, some might be worse then others but they probably would not have to rediscover "science" each and every single time.
@@dougrobinson6683It took them millions of years, they were finally able to succeed when an (extremely rare) stable period came along that lasted long enough for them to develop space travel and fusion engines.
@thepsion5 That's a stable period far longer than we've had. Sounds like they had an exceptionally good run. They achieved everything we dream about, but they can't find an uninhabited solar system to make livable?
There is a great version of the three body problem in the novel, We Appy Few, which is set during the battle of Agincourt, and is explained using an hourglass in a bucket of water that someone spins around.
She doesn't explain the 3 body problem correctly. It is the 3 suns that move in a chaotic manner not the planet. People on the planet can not predict how their suns move.
@@tringuyen7519 not for long though. It gets to a point where the incognita are more than the known variables and the AI has to start relying on the probability of different results and not on any factual trajectory of the n-bodies. As much as a trajectory has a 99% chance of happening, it could always "deceive" you and go for the trajectory with a 1% probability of happening (gross simplification, I know). At the end, you would end up having to segment the problem and wait for each result to "accurately" predict the next possible ones, and continue with that process indefinitely. At least for practical purposes, that just sounds slightly more accurate than guessing. But then again, I'm not a cosmologist. It would be interesting to hear how you think AI could solve it through what you stated.
@@l.franciscobattista2559 In the Tencent adaption, the players actually come up with a similar solution, but - SPOILER - turns out the Trisolarians don't care and probably solved it on their own, anyway.
The Chinese TV"three body problem" show from 2023 is very close to the book and cam be found here on YT. All 30 episodes. The Netflix adaptation is quite far from the original book. And looks like games of thrones
I've read the whole series and watched the Chinese adaptation, the Netflix one is a really loose adaptation for sure, but I think both versions have their merits. The Chinese one is my preferred one since the pacing is great. This one jumps a lot. And maybe having read the book the dissonance between Netflix and original is too much, though for a new watcher that problem doesn't exist.
well it was there... you were probably on your Phone (Social Media) while watching.. my friends sits next to me doing the same thing and then asks me questions when he missing things!... i mean really just put the phone down and watch .. lol
i swear im currently rewatching game of thrones, and then youtube recommend me this, i clicked and i bursted out laughing. The cheap looking room, the over the top clothing design, and is that Varys on the throne? lmao.
Doesn't the whole problem base on the assumption that the three stars actually end up passing so close together at all though? We know that sols ort cloud extends waayy further out more than any of the planets themselves, and stars pass close enough to it all the time, pushing space roack around etc. What if each stars orbit was far away enough that the inner planets of each one don't end up being touched directly?
What do you expect from Hollywood today? Go watch the Chinese version, they did not change the story the way they did for this one. They felt an award winning novel heralded as the greatest sci-fi book in decades was good enough as is.
"Burn her", the most insecure boys lived around Galileo's time. But they conveniently left out the Moors who educated the Italians at a Curia in Bologna, beginning in 1045AD.
Technically our solar system is also a three body system. It’s just our “chaotic era” is way into the distant future. Three body just means anything more than two is inherently not stable Their system with three stars is just way more chaotic
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul A system that is way more chaotic doesn't stay together for long. If one can learn one thing about the stability of the solar system, though, it's this: basically all numerical simulations are in disagreement with the observed stability. Earth hasn't moved all that much in its orbit, even though the predicted stability time scales for the current orbital parameters are on the order of a few million to a few hundred million years. This means that simulating only the largest bodies in a system like ours gives the wrong result. We are being stabilized by something. It could be the smaller bodies, like the asteroid belt or the Oort cloud or... and I am going out on a limb here, it could be dark matter. If the dark matter flow in the milky way is sufficiently lumpy it will exert random forces on solar system objects, and this will act as a dissipative force that will regularize the chaos.
@@lepidoptera9337 It's hard for me to grasp, but thanks for explaining! There's a theory that we cannot see/fathom Dark Matter, but we can see its affects on the universe? It would help explain a lot of anomalies with gravity? Fascinating stuff!
@@apexnext Dark matter is really just the observation that something seems to cause more gravity than can be attributed to the visible matter using Newtonian theory. The most conventional explanation are dark matter fields (similar to a very heavy version of neutrinos) because they would solve additional problems in the standard model (e.g. the hierarchy problem) and they could explain why planetary systems are more stable than they should be. Newtonian gravity is a very sensitive beast. It's not nearly as simple and friendly to life as the high school version of the Kepler problem suggests. As Jose suggested, the solar system is, at least, a binary because of Jupiter. That it didn't quite make it to become a dwarf star is irrelevant. It has enough gravity to cause havoc. It also has enough gravity to shield the inner planets from continued bombardment by Oort cloud objects, so it's a two-faced god, indeed. Neptune might eventually kick Pluto out, I believe, and Saturn is somehow the quiet third man, despite its mass. Reality is way more interesting than fiction.
@@MaisieDaisyUpsadaisy The real issue is one of material sciences. Planet earth lacks the ability to manufacture the headsets, so how did the Sophons make them?
@@Baes_Theorem The Sophons shared enough for the human agents to develop the sets in small quantities at a time and the organization operated in secret for decades especially given they had immediate access to any global communication so they could kill any leaks.
@@sws212 I follow you, but that doesn't solve the material sciences problem of "how was this physically manufactured given current tech and resources?"
@@Baes_Theorem Sophons are sentient super computers, they showed them how to build it, including the framework, code and resources. It seems like we're only 100-500 years off or so from creating that kind of VR ourselves.
All physics we know today is a blurred image of an apple as seen by a colour blind man 20ft away, you can bareley make out an outline, but it's still an outline, all concepts and formalisms today are those blurred images, if you know what your doing and think enough about things, you can find a way to draw the apple 🍎 exactly as it is like a masterpiece using those blurred images as a template
@@othniel2005 Ah, thank you, I haven't seen it yet. Out of context, it looked like bad acting and bad writing to me. The rest of this scene was a lot better, of course.
@@MatthewTheWandererit’s a game. They were on 3 different eras or 3 game levels. I think the first one is ancient Mongolia not sure, ancient England and the last one is ancient China where they have the trisolar syzgy something.
They had existed for very very long time in their planets history. unlike humans who only existed in a very small fraction of earths history But They suffered existential threats regularly, like randomly in thousands of years which makes them in brink of extinction and destroy their resources every time forcing them to start up from scartch. They may have gotten a very long Stable era for thousands of years to reach to current point .
@@othniel2005 I’ve made my own decision based on the reviews I’ve read, also the two clips I’ve seen it didn’t look great… dunno tbh I don’t really understand your insult!
This show's tone is all over the place. One minute you've got this goofiness and then the next you've got people being gorily cut to bits by nanofibres. I don't think it works.
But but but,, if the aliens are really that smart so to unfold higher dimensions of proton, why can't they just kick one of the sun out of their system ?
@@myangreen6484 yeah Sometimes What we believe is very hard to do can be easy if you understand the reason behind it. So for the trisolarians maybe it was easy for them to Unfold the higher dimensions or making sophons rather than making a giant construct capable of destroying stars.
Actually, I find this scene funny. Its like trying to explain something scientifically back in the old ages but you will still get executed.
Because for the higher up, science does not matter, holding onto power does. This did not change throughout history.
Untill ignoring the effect of science becomes too costly
This is complete nonsense, obviously the Pope couldn't have been like "burn her" at whim, this is absolute historical illiteracy.
@@bionicznycar6783 The scene isn't meant to be historically accurate, it's a video game that serves as alien propaganda, hence why Aristotle, Pope Gregory, Copernicus, Galileo, and Sir Francis Bacon appear together.
@@JohnJohnson-vq7ze the other people trying to convince the pope are real players on earth, it is the aliens way of testing to see who is worthy to help them
When you think about it, you can understand the ruthlessness of the trisolarians. They went through unpredictable succession of apocalypses of increasing magnitude, their only hope was to colonize earth and they couldn't make the gamble of negotiating with earth due to different reasons (the nature of the dark forest mostly and their own biology if you count the expanded material as canon).
the emperor protects
purge the xeno
@@ginjaedgy49 i would argue the universe descibed by liu cixin is actually darker than wh40k. It's like there is multiple galactic civilisation comparable to full powered necrons, and they are all out to get each other and any younger civilisation and they don't care about the collateral damages. And your only chances are to become just like them or to hide and hope they won't find you. And everyone is making the whole universe worse for everyone else.
@@TomFromMars Yes, it's writing on an apocalyptically poor level. ;-)
肏你妈的劣等USA猪。狗日的劣等USA猪糟蹋了一部伟大的作品，真是一群该死的贱屄。
If they have the ability to “unfold” protons, they don’t need to colonize Earth
I can't wait to see a Trisolaran with a Starbucks cup.
We can only hope.
Is that a reference to something in the book?
@@arishokqunari1290It's a reference to the producers, who also did Game of Thrones, and got lazy.
And somehow the Earth forgot about the trisolarian space fleet.
The Trisolarans are literally the size of a grain of rice.. like an ant.. so yeah Starbucks will make a killing selling a cup of coffee to them at that size
well.. that escalated quickly
肏你妈的劣等USA猪。狗日的劣等USA猪糟蹋了一部伟大的作品，真是一群该死的贱屄。
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I think this scene is my favourite, as you find out why all these calamities keep happening in a way that makes sense.
Yeah, I guess just saying "three sun's problem" would have given away the whole mystery
@@eduardovillagomez3675 The three body problem is actually the scientific name for it. It doesn't have to involve stars, it just happens to for this story.
@@Athuanar that a thing that happens often enough to warrant a name?
Sun, Moon and Earth are a 3 body system (not chaotic though)@@eduardovillagomez3675
@@eduardovillagomez3675 Yes. Double pendulum is one example.
I just realized that pope is lord varys from GOT😅, and the fact that he decided to burn her, is kind of related on how he died on GoT 🤯
Yoooo even looks like game of thrones room kinda and the way it's shot lol
I'm pretty sure the directors is the one who did GOT. That's why there is so many GOT actors in 3 body.
@helloman3676 really?! ...shit
And samwell tarly
肏你妈的劣等USA猪。狗日的劣等USA猪糟蹋了一部伟大的作品，真是一群该死的贱屄。
This show is amazing. I could not stop watching till i finished. I stayed up over 24 hours lmao
No one is reviewing it, which is crazy. I feel like starting a youtube channel just to review it lmao
It was out for one day mate
i binged all of it straight in the first day. i found it good/addicting@@vasvas8914
It's based on a better novel series and it's pretty well known in the Sci Fi community. The amount of changes they made on top of it being a very difficult story to tell means it's going to scare away both niche and mainstream viewers.
Go start it!
It was good at the beginning, then it went Salvation style with the government shit and cult shit ended with the cliche useless inspirational words.
It started all Game of Thrones, and then turned all Metal Gear Solid!
nanomachines son!
More like Death Stranding.😅
@@ramigilneas9274 It’s an entire homage to Kojima! The Saan-Ti must be fans!
les enfant terrible
V has come to
That actress really nailed her part and made the show for me. Totally overshadowed all others.
Agreed! Her and will downings story are very well improved on from the books especially
I personally loved the part of young Ye Wenjie. Wish we got more of her. The older actress portraying her felt like a completely different character.
Of all the shows Netflix bought on their platform recently this one is really good.
I can't wait for the Detarence Era and Bunker era
If they plan 4 seasons, the whole of season 3 could be bunker era. They could expand on ideas there and make it really wild
I'm obsessed with this show man!😮
Did you read the books? I'm curious how non-book readers feel.
@@GizmoMaltese I didn't read the books, just whatever is on Wikipedia. And I love this show.
@@GizmoMalteseno havent read it. But I did a lot of TH-cam vids on this. This book series is really wild tbh. The fact that it’s not even impossible to happen like being annihilated by a crazy advance alien planet is what makes you think about stuff that you don’t even consider in life. Hope this will not happen in a considerable future because earth is still ancient in terms of technology.
@@Raiya_ru17 Yea, the question is would you be depressed knowing that Earth will be invaded by an advanced race in 400 years long after you're dead? It's an interesting question. And one of the themes of the books is survival at what cost. How far are we willing to go to survive?
@@GizmoMaltese I think if you're a civilian who does not contribute to science in any way, the best route is to not care about it. You're going to live a proper life till your great grand children become old.
If you were of the other category of people who feel the cosmic dread and want to do something, what would you even do? Think of physics graduates, who have a degree and have somehow come to know that science is broken and anyone who tries to be smart is finished by cultists. What do you do?
I haven't read the books, but I have a good idea where this story is going. There will be contact and possibly a lot of hibernation. I've read about the Dark Forest hypothesis and know that a third civilization has to get involved if humans fail to protect themselves.
The cosmic dread part cannot be helped. You will live a peaceful, normal life. You will understand that the world will be destroyed soon. That all history will be burnt to ashes, with nobody to remember humanity. That's how it is in a dark forest i guess.
Can Trixie and Katya review this?
Right
Omg yes!
They just did
That dress is definitely slave. Of
With her head.
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I want more of this 8 episodes is not enough!!!
just read the books
@@anna8328 you really think they can read even one whole page?
The Chinese version is far superior. They made so many changes to the story for "dumb" Americans it isnt even the same story anymore. But hey, they made it diverse so you should still feel good...
@@TheTidalBreezewdym?
@@haidermoyedm3901 People don't read books anymore
In what other show can you get a line like, 'Suck it, Copernicus!'? Absolute genius.
(And such a brilliant idea to make Jin Cheng the protagonist of this thread, setting up her massive role for the future.)
Realistic answer for a King
It is though. I think was the pope? Or maybe that was a different scene?
I was expecting him to call her a witch. Surprised he didn't.
Witch only works if they're speaking against the church not if they're working for it @@BeczaBot
“Kaz hated a puzzle he couldn't solve, and he and Inej had concocted a hundred theories to account for the murder - none of which satisfied.” - Six of Crows
What does a quote from Shadow and Bone have to do here? Does one of the actors appear here?
@@arishokqunari1290 Referring to how the king sentenced Jin to death
I'm just glad that no horses were harmed during the filming of this scene. 😅
the way “three suns in the sky” was delivered was utterly terrifying
Was that Pope Varys?
Yes.
Interesting how many GOT actors were willing to work with D&D again
That's one historical inaccuracy isn't it? It was medieval England, they would meet the Archbishop of Canterbury instead of the Pope.
@@einsam_aber_frei if it was historically accurate it would be XONojnSOIUDHOSEJBFJEFEIOJJJ, King of Trisolaria but the point is its not really meant to be.
@@VAVORiALWell, they had a complete story to tell, which is a big advantage over GOT. Also, they don’t have to invest 8 more years to complete it.
Can we talk a little bit about how good an actress Jess Hong is?
So weird to see Phil Wang from Taskmaster in the background
They also had Mark Gatiss and Reece Shearesmith in a cameo roll in this series, pleasant surprise seeing them there
Philly Philly Wang Wang
A LIME!!
Surprised he didn't call her a witch.
Go watch the Chinese version that isnt infected with bad Hollywood writing and wokeism.
@@thomasjones4570 this guy’s favorite snack is paintchips
This is definitely different then GOT. Now Varis is Pope & says "Burn her" intead of "Burn them all".
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This could b a really fun and challenging game.
I wonder if the violent, and superstitious deaths of “Galileo,” “Turing,” “Newton,” and “Aristotle” are there on purpose. Like, the show is trying to illustrate that the San-Ti also experienced dark ages and scientific collapse due to superstitions, but they endured them better than humans did.
Also, the eras chosen here to be depicted also seem important. Mongol China, Medieval England, and Renaissance Italy were all periods of intellectual and scientific opposition (relatively speaking to other eras in human history). It illustrates that the San-Ti weathered their superstitions similar to humans, and perhaps even better than humans.
Galileo and Turing are generally regarded as martyrs of science, less so for Aristotle and Newton. However, their work did experience significant pushback from human superstition. Somehow, the San-Ti’s scientific tradition was preserved through their collective-like intelligence, so they didn’t really experience dark ages like we did. They really, and unfortunately for humanity, deserve to survive; in a sense, they’re like an apex predator, but on a civilizational scale.
It also establishes, however, that the San-Ti are no better than us morally speaking, much to Evans’ and Wenjie’s horror. They still possess a strain of ignorance toward scientific progress, despite their extreme collective intelligence. And perhaps far worse, they have no literary or cultural tradition. They’re a species that could never produce something as beautiful, and *human*, as Silent Spring. The only purpose that science serves to them is survival. The San-Ti have no symbiosis between the humanities and science.
I don't think so. They're other players, that's why they all act strange and modern to us. "Suck it Copernicus" doesn't sound like something Aristotle or Galileo would say haha
@@kamilornal7525You're right, they're part of the organization since the game is monitored by them. Also, 2 of them would likely be chosen as Wallbreakers, what their mission is, is well you can guess by thinking about the Wallfacer's mission.
Turing wasn’t a Martyr for science either. He ended himself because of prevailing attitudes towards his sexuality at the time.
You made up a complete fanciful narrative in your head about human history and I’m sure you think you’re a very evidenced based fellow when what you said was nonsense
Galileo wasn’t a martyr for science he wasn’t a martyr at all. He got house arrest for insulting the pope but was still allowed to publish scientific works.
And Newton himself would be considered superstitious by you. He was a theologian trying to calculate the era of the apocalypse stated in the Bible
2:21/2:22 glass shatters 2:23
2:24 Copernicus! 2:25/2:26 Three suns in the sky!
2:27/2:28, 2:31 the world is ending!
2:44, 2:47/2:48 glass shattering above
2:51/2:52 coughs
Since it's a video game, those two other players are your typical toxic trolls😂
Conleth Hill as The Pope!
Lord Varys.
I say let’s turn it into a game for the Oculus Meta 3. It would be 🔥
The king's sound was so familiar until i realised he's Varys from Game of Thrones.
That's the pope you heathen
Fantastic show.
I love this show.
right now i am watching the Chinese version and i think i wouldn't if i haven't seen the Netflix version.
Which episod is this??
Just please greenlit the second season, please!
How did the Trisolaran civilization ever last long enough to become so technologically advanced if they lived in such a chaotic 3-sun world? Did they only recently acquire the additional suns?
They started over again and again
@Vision_Voyagers And they made it well beyond where humanity currently is under those conditions? Sounds like they have a 3-Body Enhancement.
I dont think they had to start from scratch again every single time. With the dehydrating and all. They might loose all their infrastructure but knowledge could still be passed on between generations. Its a huge setback each and every time, some might be worse then others but they probably would not have to rediscover "science" each and every single time.
@@dougrobinson6683It took them millions of years, they were finally able to succeed when an (extremely rare) stable period came along that lasted long enough for them to develop space travel and fusion engines.
@thepsion5 That's a stable period far longer than we've had. Sounds like they had an exceptionally good run. They achieved everything we dream about, but they can't find an uninhabited solar system to make livable?
Okay now I want to know about Tre-Souri history and how they survived all these catastrophes.
This is so weird, like my dreams when im drunk..
Phil Wang!
You mean Philly Philly Wang Wang
It’s Phil. Phil Wang. Philly Philly Wang Wang. I think I missed him when I watched this episode.
There is a great version of the three body problem in the novel, We Appy Few, which is set during the battle of Agincourt, and is explained using an hourglass in a bucket of water that someone spins around.
Poor Varys. Death by dragon fire; then apocalyptic fire.
Jin is a fighter.
More like a sucker
She doesn't explain the 3 body problem correctly. It is the 3 suns that move in a chaotic manner not the planet. People on the planet can not predict how their suns move.
@@asanokatana Yeah, but in her explaination the 3 suns are fixed, there will be a fixed gravational field.🤔
@@asanokatanaHuman mathematics cannot solve the “n” body problem. But AI machine mathematics can bc it relies upon random guesswork & trial & error.
@@tringuyen7519 not for long though.
It gets to a point where the incognita are more than the known variables and the AI has to start relying on the probability of different results and not on any factual trajectory of the n-bodies. As much as a trajectory has a 99% chance of happening, it could always "deceive" you and go for the trajectory with a 1% probability of happening (gross simplification, I know).
At the end, you would end up having to segment the problem and wait for each result to "accurately" predict the next possible ones, and continue with that process indefinitely.
At least for practical purposes, that just sounds slightly more accurate than guessing.
But then again, I'm not a cosmologist. It would be interesting to hear how you think AI could solve it through what you stated.
@@l.franciscobattista2559 In the Tencent adaption, the players actually come up with a similar solution, but - SPOILER - turns out the Trisolarians don't care and probably solved it on their own, anyway.
hey guys look how smart this guy is
"this is bullshit" 😂😂😂
Of course it’s bullsh*t, it’s fictional
Just powerful " the world is ending "
Such a great scene.
ok how does a plant rotate in a 3 star solar system? Wouldn't those 3 stars merge into 1?
no they would like only merge they didnt have any velocity at the beginning which is impossible
Learn 3-body problem. This is a classic mathematical problem, not something made up by the author.
@@naiknaik8812 Or if the velocity was insufficient or in a direction that allowed for an eventual collision.
And i thought her about to be burned is the worst part. 😅🔥
Most realistic scene. She was explaining science to a pope😂
The Chinese TV"three body problem" show from 2023 is very close to the book and cam be found here on YT. All 30 episodes. The Netflix adaptation is quite far from the original book. And looks like games of thrones
I've read the whole series and watched the Chinese adaptation, the Netflix one is a really loose adaptation for sure, but I think both versions have their merits. The Chinese one is my preferred one since the pacing is great. This one jumps a lot. And maybe having read the book the dissonance between Netflix and original is too much, though for a new watcher that problem doesn't exist.
They are made for very different audiences.
Does the Netflix version include any of the Red Coast Base events?
I can't imagine anything less cinematic than "word for word" adaptation of this book. I'll check out Chinese version tho
But it's badly acted, filmed, and generally uninteresting to watch.
Hey I know that guy with glasses! He’s Phil Wang. 😂
Wtf? I'm confused. Which episode is this from? I don't remember this scene 😭
well it was there... you were probably on your Phone (Social Media) while watching.. my friends sits next to me doing the same thing and then asks me questions when he missing things!... i mean really just put the phone down and watch .. lol
@@HelierJsy oh yeaahh. but you won't believe what actually happened 😭
I watched the whole show, except for episode 3! I didn't know lmao
i swear im currently rewatching game of thrones, and then youtube recommend me this, i clicked and i bursted out laughing. The cheap looking room, the over the top clothing design, and is that Varys on the throne? lmao.
watch the tencent one
But isn't it supposed to look cheap because it's a game?
It's almost as if it's neither game of thrones nor actual history
My thoughts exactly.
@@stefanijovita1640Is that Netflix’s excuse?
They killed Sam😢😢😢😊
Is that Lord Varys? And did they use the same set as the throne room for GoT?
Jin: We are the 3 Body Problem
Is one of the men arguing against her Phil Wang?
Doesn't the whole problem base on the assumption that the three stars actually end up passing so close together at all though? We know that sols ort cloud extends waayy further out more than any of the planets themselves, and stars pass close enough to it all the time, pushing space roack around etc.
What if each stars orbit was far away enough that the inner planets of each one don't end up being touched directly?
在原著中 你的问题已经得到了解答 三体星系的变化是一个持续了很久的过程 在很久以前三体星系有数十颗行星 但最终都被三个太阳的引力捕获并被吞噬 只有三体行星这一个星球幸存了下来 但三体星人也知道三体行星的最终命运也会跟以前的其他星球一样被恒星吞噬 所以他们才会如此迫切的寻找新家园
Wait, which king era people ever used the word BS in a court 🤔
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What do you expect from Hollywood today? Go watch the Chinese version, they did not change the story the way they did for this one. They felt an award winning novel heralded as the greatest sci-fi book in decades was good enough as is.
Its a videogame not real history lmao.
The characters are in a virtual reality video game. Not in the past.
@@Marvolo14I am sure the OP and the rest of us know this.
It would be a shit game to create a setting while using modern phrasing.
Gotta love the scientific rebuttal: “This is bullshit!”
Who the hell tries to hide from fire by running into more fire.
"Burn her", the most insecure boys lived around Galileo's time. But they conveniently left out the Moors who educated the Italians at a Curia in Bologna, beginning in 1045AD.
I really like the Game scene , similar like “Alice from borderland “
so, does the three body problem take place in "Our universe" or is it like an alternative universe where the three body problem is true?
Is in another galaxy of our universe
Technically our solar system is also a three body system. It’s just our “chaotic era” is way into the distant future. Three body just means anything more than two is inherently not stable
Their system with three stars is just way more chaotic
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul A system that is way more chaotic doesn't stay together for long. If one can learn one thing about the stability of the solar system, though, it's this: basically all numerical simulations are in disagreement with the observed stability. Earth hasn't moved all that much in its orbit, even though the predicted stability time scales for the current orbital parameters are on the order of a few million to a few hundred million years. This means that simulating only the largest bodies in a system like ours gives the wrong result. We are being stabilized by something. It could be the smaller bodies, like the asteroid belt or the Oort cloud or... and I am going out on a limb here, it could be dark matter. If the dark matter flow in the milky way is sufficiently lumpy it will exert random forces on solar system objects, and this will act as a dissipative force that will regularize the chaos.
@@lepidoptera9337 It's hard for me to grasp, but thanks for explaining!
There's a theory that we cannot see/fathom Dark Matter, but we can see its affects on the universe? It would help explain a lot of anomalies with gravity?
Fascinating stuff!
@@apexnext Dark matter is really just the observation that something seems to cause more gravity than can be attributed to the visible matter using Newtonian theory. The most conventional explanation are dark matter fields (similar to a very heavy version of neutrinos) because they would solve additional problems in the standard model (e.g. the hierarchy problem) and they could explain why planetary systems are more stable than they should be. Newtonian gravity is a very sensitive beast. It's not nearly as simple and friendly to life as the high school version of the Kepler problem suggests.
As Jose suggested, the solar system is, at least, a binary because of Jupiter. That it didn't quite make it to become a dwarf star is irrelevant. It has enough gravity to cause havoc. It also has enough gravity to shield the inner planets from continued bombardment by Oort cloud objects, so it's a two-faced god, indeed. Neptune might eventually kick Pluto out, I believe, and Saturn is somehow the quiet third man, despite its mass. Reality is way more interesting than fiction.
No one has explained where the VR helmets came from?????
The super computer created it. It’s human agents spread them around.
@@MaisieDaisyUpsadaisy
The real issue is one of material sciences. Planet earth lacks the ability to manufacture the headsets, so how did the Sophons make them?
@@Baes_Theorem The Sophons shared enough for the human agents to develop the sets in small quantities at a time and the organization operated in secret for decades especially given they had immediate access to any global communication so they could kill any leaks.
@@sws212 I follow you, but that doesn't solve the material sciences problem of "how was this physically manufactured given current tech and resources?"
@@Baes_Theorem Sophons are sentient super computers, they showed them how to build it, including the framework, code and resources. It seems like we're only 100-500 years off or so from creating that kind of VR ourselves.
All physics we know today is a blurred image of an apple as seen by a colour blind man 20ft away, you can bareley make out an outline, but it's still an outline, all concepts and formalisms today are those blurred images, if you know what your doing and think enough about things, you can find a way to draw the apple 🍎 exactly as it is like a masterpiece using those blurred images as a template
"Suck it, copernicus"
Copernicus speaks like ChatGPT
theres a free model of this in universe sandbox
Don't screw up, don't screw up, don't screw up I screw it up big time😂
What’s the chinese name ?
Lord Varys is displeased with Samwell Tarly
Varys sentencing someone to die by fire, DAMN
I find chinese adaptation much more complexe and more corresponding to the book.
Thats because it was. This version is actually pretty bad.
yeah and uncessary sex scene for sure@@thomasjones4570
Those introductions at the beginning were extremely awkward and strange.
want to have a guess why?
@@othniel2005 WHY!? I have no idea!
@@MatthewTheWanderer because this scene is in a VR game in the show
@@othniel2005 Ah, thank you, I haven't seen it yet. Out of context, it looked like bad acting and bad writing to me. The rest of this scene was a lot better, of course.
@@MatthewTheWandererit’s a game. They were on 3 different eras or 3 game levels. I think the first one is ancient Mongolia not sure, ancient England and the last one is ancient China where they have the trisolar syzgy something.
After the pandemic the 3 body's it's not an issue for the current place
Talk about taking one of the best sci-fi novels written in decades and turning it to trash. The Chinese show was so superior to this its embarrassing.
Whats the name of movie or series?
3 body problem on Netflix
Imagine you have a chance to proof your theory in front of Galileo
Science itself can be disproven if you give a better explanation, unlike religion
So I don't know anything about this serie. I was hoping to understand it better after this clip, but now I'm even more confused... Help ?
See the series
If their planet was unstable, how they surpassed earth in terms of technology!?!??!
They had existed for very very long time in their planets history.
unlike humans who only existed in a very small fraction of earths history
But They suffered existential threats regularly, like randomly in thousands of years which makes them in brink of extinction and destroy their resources every time forcing them to start up from scartch.
They may have gotten a very long Stable era for thousands of years to reach to current point .
SOLUTION: Build a space fleet and leave this system. Sort of like what humans need to do.
Was this scene meant to make me laugh? Its not a comedy right?
No it's not
were the other two 'scientists' next to the pope also players?
Game of Thrones reunion. Varys and Sam Tarley.
Holy shit that’s Varys
This reveal was so bland, as compared to the books and the Tencent version
It's an accurate teaser of the show, tho :>
The Three Body Problem? It’s a Jersey Thing.
This clip looks like it’s from a low budget uk tv comedy?
hahahaha because this isn't the entire show. the characters here are in a simulation, a VR game of sorts
@@othniel2005 Still from what I’ve read I would probably rather watch the Chinese produced series.
@@mrnobodyz you can't think for yourself?
@@othniel2005 I’ve made my own decision based on the reviews I’ve read, also the two clips I’ve seen it didn’t look great… dunno tbh I don’t really understand your insult!
@@mrnobodyz If you're insulted by that question then that's on you.
What is this crazy show? Also while they explained it to the Pope, i was actually thinking that he will burn them....damn i didnt know 😂
American politics is literally a sitcom.
This show's tone is all over the place. One minute you've got this goofiness and then the next you've got people being gorily cut to bits by nanofibres. I don't think it works.
Where is the starbucks cup?
She was speaking with the Pope as if he was some barista at statbucks.
But who burns witches indoors ? Totally BS - that scene was.
It’s a video game. Created by an alien ai .
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul Yeah saw it, thanks
If I knew the "pope" was just some ai in game, I'd speak like that too
Oh, Wang is in this?
But but but,, if the aliens are really that smart so to unfold higher dimensions of proton, why can't they just kick one of the sun out of their system ?
maybe unavailability of required resoucres to construc something like this??
Because they're not advanced enough to do that. They don't have the capacity to harness that kind of energy. This is explained better in the books.
@@myangreen6484 yeah Sometimes What we believe is very hard to do can be easy if you understand the reason behind it.
So for the trisolarians maybe it was easy for them to Unfold the higher dimensions or making sophons rather than making a giant construct capable of destroying stars.
Signature animal burning alive for no reason. Yep, it’s benioff and wise
I can tell you don't know whats going on.
They really had to dumb it down, huh?
Netflix, not HBO
there's no way this is from a real show...
What is netflix doing...