I recently decided to NOT buy the Entegra Esteem 29V Class C after taking it for a test drive at the dealership. It was a short drive but it only took a couple miles to realize how horrible of a driving experience it was. I could not imagine driving it cross country for many hours at a time! This is a brand new coach with the so called EZ-Ride suspension upgrade. This coach was all over the road and took constant inputs to keep in in the lane! It was just so unacceptable for me at the price of a new 2022 rig. Your video is proof positive that the manufacturers are NOT doing enough to prepare these coaches for a good driving experience. Having to spend another $8000 after spending $150,000 is just unacceptable. Glad you folks came up with a solution for those who already bought and need this. As for me, I lost my taste for the Class C. Great video.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us! We hear similar if not the same experiences from our customers before they get their WTD lift kit. We love being apart of the solution so folks can enjoy their RV.
I have been driving the motorhome mentioned above for over a year and wanted to give an update. After I had installed the "band aids" the handling improved but still had clearance issues. The sumo and timbren springs along with the trac bar stopped the rv from blowing over after being passed by big trucks but I was still not satisfied with the clearance. The 6 inch lift kit solved the issues I continued to have. I kept the sumo and timbren springs. WeldTec removed the trac bar but I re installed it myself. One thing I had not mentioned before is that when I arrived to TX from CA after having the kit installed, I was missing a bolt on the front sway bar and a nut on the link that attaches the sway bar to the I beams. I have since replaced the missing bolt and nut. Check the hardware after you get home. I am very satisfied with the kit and highly recommend it to anyone with a class c rv.
I had the 6 inch kit installed in April of last year. My rig is an Entregra 30X that I bought new in September. The ride was terrible, and I drug bottom at every gas station. The crew at weld tech was great and did a fantastic job. The ride difference after the install was well worth the cost. Before I held on with two hands, after I could drive with two fingers! And after 15,000 miles I have not bottomed out once. The ride is very stable and I highly recommend the kit.
The road master steering stabilizer really improved the handling on my 06 ,26ft , Gulfstream Class C .Thinking of the lift kit and 4 by 4 installation for the beach now. RV life is good.
I have doen pretty much all of that to my rig. I have basically the same setup in a Forest River forester. You did a Sunseeker a year or so ago and mine is the exact copy of it. Anyway, I can say the Sumo's did help somewhat as well as the other items for sway, etc. That being said, the rear ride isn't any better. My leaf's are massively overloaded, even with the 8 helper springs Forest River added. My Sumo's on the rear bolt to the top of the leafs and the side of the frame and I can say did help. That being said, only so much that you can do. I like your kits and want to get one. Probably will do the 6" but need to figure out the step. My unit, like the Sunseeker, has the drop step built into the side. If I can add a power step below it I am fine. If not then I need to figure something out. I also really like the bumpers though I like this front one a little more. Your rear bumper fits my needs great though. Either way, once I can get to this point i'll let you know as I think this kit will be the final resolution to getting y RV the way I want it.
Glad to see this video as I have been calling to find the appropriate labor cost of having your shop install this kit. Y’all must be really busy as no one seems to ever answer the phone or return calls.
Awesome video. Trying to decide to have you guys install or a local company (they are well respected) once we pull the trigger on your 6” for our class c. I honestly like the ride currently as I have a safe-t plus stabilizer just need the clearance. Thanks for the video!
Ok I bought a used 2016 31' Forest River Forester. It already had air bags in the rear. I did the front end upgrades that you did except for the lift and I did use the Bilstein shocks. On the rear I put Bilstein shocks and did no modifications to the leaf springs and I had an alignment done. I noticed an improvement in the steering and handling over all. BUT, every time my tires go over an imperfection on the road it bangs so loud it scares the shit out of me. I swear if I ran over a shadow it would make this noise. I'm running 80 lbs in the tires, someone suggested I should lower my tire pressure. I am frustrated as hell.
I Also took out the air bags and installed Sumo springs front and back. It was very pleased with improvement in the ride. The Sumo's weren't that hard to install. Thanks for doing these videos, they are very informative.
Jeremy, enjoyed the video. Very informative. I would love for you to upgrade the suspension on our coach. The problem is we are in Detroit. You'd think there would be a shop here that could help but I can't find them. How do I find a shop like yours here?
Experts - I recently bought a 03 20' Born Free RV E350 super duty that has a 4x4 conversion w/410 gears. It has 265/75/16's w/a spacer between the duallys.. can I leave the 265's up front for their 10.43" width, but then put 235 85 16's on the rear so I can delete the spacers? They are very similar in diameter, but 9.25" W. the 265's would roll 1.58 more revolutions per mile than the 235 rears. Just wondering about transmission damage over time, especially if in 4wheel drive?
When you say you install a 235-85-16 tire you saying that's larger than stock or just better? And if it's larger does that add another inch or two to the ride height?
what is the largest tire you have installed on a e450 without modding the front wheel well and fender? Alyssa had emailed me and said the standard tire you guys use is KO2 235/785/16e is this the largest? im looking for an aggressive width along with height,
thanks for the video. gave me the info to make a decision on suspension upgrade or trade my new vegas in the diesel pusher motorhome. Such a poor ride over pot holes on new vehicle is terrible. I think the industry is intentionally going to small of suspension?> You recommend anyone in michigan for 4" lift.
My biggest issue with this lift kit is my overall hight, at stock hight the rv is 11' 3" with 6"s that's 15' 3" that is 2' 2" taller than your typical semi trailer. Is any one having issues with getting under said gas station canopies or anything?
@larrycox6614 lol! Dude, it wasn't until I was at work explaining this thought to a buddy of mine, and it dawned on me that I was thinking, and that is where I messed up. Lol
Have the safe-t plus stabilizer and front sumo springs. Ride is good and sumo helped a bit and added about an inch. I will be talking to a local company in Tacoma WA about installing your 6 inch kit. Assume if they are reputable and work on commercial vehicles installing your kit should not be an issue for them. Also assume you have techs available so they can get any questions answered?
I have the same rig; all these upgrades are done by the manufacturer. This package is called Jride. Will I notice a improvement in handling and overall ride with your 2" lift? I've been wanting to purchase the 2" lift kit so I can bolt it on myself. I'm hoping to purchase one size up in tires shooting for about 3" total increase in height. Does the 2" kit require any welding?
SO FOR $1018.89 DOLLAR DIFFERENCE YOU GET A BETTER SAFETY RIDE AND CLEARANCE? SO WHY ARE YOU NOT HOOKING UP WITH YOUR LOCAL RV DEALERS IN SOUTHERN CAL FOR THE PACKAGE DEAL? I'N MY OPINION, YOU SHOULD MARKET THE LIFT KITS AT SEMI INSTEAD OF THE VAN BUILDS.....JUST SAYING. $$$$$$
I like your work and products, but your labor estimates for the customer installed parts are outrageously out of line! $650 to install a rear anti-sway bar? Are you kidding? I think you loose some credibility with these wild exaggerations on labor price!
it may sound crazy but lets say 3-4hrs at $175 an hour which the local RV shop charges to install..... Of course you could self install and save yourself $$$ for gas....
YOUR DUMB>>>> LOL ... yes you are correct that the axle stays at the same height but now WITH the lift kit you can run a larger tire which now increase the clearance between the ground and axle....... With better springs and shocks your going to get a better ride, but who would want that in an rv! I bought an rv because my wife wouldn't let me buy a boat... Lucky for me I still feel like im in a boat when driving the RV...... LMAO
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I recently decided to NOT buy the Entegra Esteem 29V Class C after taking it for a test drive at the dealership. It was a short drive but it only took a couple miles to realize how horrible of a driving experience it was. I could not imagine driving it cross country for many hours at a time! This is a brand new coach with the so called EZ-Ride suspension upgrade. This coach was all over the road and took constant inputs to keep in in the lane! It was just so unacceptable for me at the price of a new 2022 rig. Your video is proof positive that the manufacturers are NOT doing enough to prepare these coaches for a good driving experience. Having to spend another $8000 after spending $150,000 is just unacceptable. Glad you folks came up with a solution for those who already bought and need this. As for me, I lost my taste for the Class C. Great video.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us! We hear similar if not the same experiences from our customers before they get their WTD lift kit. We love being apart of the solution so folks can enjoy their RV.
I have been driving the motorhome mentioned above for over a year and wanted to give an update. After I had installed the "band aids" the handling improved but still had clearance issues. The sumo and timbren springs along with the trac bar stopped the rv from blowing over after being passed by big trucks but I was still not satisfied with the clearance. The 6 inch lift kit solved the issues I continued to have. I kept the sumo and timbren springs. WeldTec removed the trac bar but I re installed it myself. One thing I had not mentioned before is that when I arrived to TX from CA after having the kit installed, I was missing a bolt on the front sway bar and a nut on the link that attaches the sway bar to the I beams. I have since replaced the missing bolt and nut. Check the hardware after you get home. I am very satisfied with the kit and highly recommend it to anyone with a class c rv.
Thanks for sharing your experience and we are happy that you are enjoying your Class C RV.
I had the 6 inch kit installed in April of last year. My rig is an Entregra 30X that I bought new in September. The ride was terrible, and I drug bottom at every gas station.
The crew at weld tech was great and did a fantastic job.
The ride difference after the install was well worth the cost. Before I held on with two hands, after I could drive with two fingers! And after 15,000 miles I have not bottomed out once. The ride is very stable and I highly recommend the kit.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with WTD and how you LOVE your new suspension kit!
How much did it cost?
@@joes11 weldtecdesigns.com/product/wtd-ford-e-series-class-c-rv-6-suspension-lift-kit-fox-shocks/
The road master steering stabilizer really improved the handling on my 06 ,26ft , Gulfstream Class C .Thinking of the lift kit and 4 by 4 installation for the beach now. RV life is good.
You will love it and wish you did it sooner!
I have doen pretty much all of that to my rig. I have basically the same setup in a Forest River forester. You did a Sunseeker a year or so ago and mine is the exact copy of it. Anyway, I can say the Sumo's did help somewhat as well as the other items for sway, etc. That being said, the rear ride isn't any better. My leaf's are massively overloaded, even with the 8 helper springs Forest River added. My Sumo's on the rear bolt to the top of the leafs and the side of the frame and I can say did help. That being said, only so much that you can do.
I like your kits and want to get one. Probably will do the 6" but need to figure out the step. My unit, like the Sunseeker, has the drop step built into the side. If I can add a power step below it I am fine. If not then I need to figure something out. I also really like the bumpers though I like this front one a little more. Your rear bumper fits my needs great though. Either way, once I can get to this point i'll let you know as I think this kit will be the final resolution to getting y RV the way I want it.
we have the single and double power steps for the entry. Let us know how we can help and build you an awesome rig!
Glad to see this video as I have been calling to find the appropriate labor cost of having your shop install this kit. Y’all must be really busy as no one seems to ever answer the phone or return calls.
Awesome video. Trying to decide to have you guys install or a local company (they are well respected) once we pull the trigger on your 6” for our class c. I honestly like the ride currently as I have a safe-t plus stabilizer just need the clearance.
Thanks for the video!
This is a great reminder on the labor cost of bolt-on band-aids... Yikes
$520 to install a front sway bar. Lol. Takes about 45 minutes if you take your time. Did one today. The labor prices here are crazy.
Ok I bought a used 2016 31' Forest River Forester. It already had air bags in the rear. I did the front end upgrades that you did except for the lift and I did use the Bilstein shocks. On the rear I put Bilstein shocks and did no modifications to the leaf springs and I had an alignment done. I noticed an improvement in the steering and handling over all. BUT, every time my tires go over an imperfection on the road it bangs so loud it scares the shit out of me. I swear if I ran over a shadow it would make this noise. I'm running 80 lbs in the tires, someone suggested I should lower my tire pressure. I am frustrated as hell.
Hey Jeremy, I have a 2008 32' Coachmen Concord on the E450 chassis. It had really rough ride. I replaced the shocks with Koni shocks,
I Also took out the air bags and installed Sumo springs front and back. It was very pleased with improvement in the ride. The Sumo's weren't that hard to install. Thanks for doing these videos, they are very informative.
Koni shocks are a JOKE..... I have a video coming soon on those.
Dope video!
Jeremy, enjoyed the video. Very informative. I would love for you to upgrade the suspension on our coach. The problem is we are in Detroit. You'd think there would be a shop here that could help but I can't find them. How do I find a shop like yours here?
Experts - I recently bought a 03 20' Born Free RV E350 super duty that has a 4x4 conversion w/410 gears. It has 265/75/16's w/a spacer between the duallys.. can I leave the 265's up front for their 10.43" width, but then put 235 85 16's on the rear so I can delete the spacers? They are very similar in diameter, but 9.25" W. the 265's would roll 1.58 more revolutions per mile than the 235 rears. Just wondering about transmission damage over time, especially if in 4wheel drive?
You must adjust the lifts or will not work properly 😊
I have a 07 Melbourne 31 ft, we did the 6" lift, my question is where the carrier bearings are how do you know if you need the spacers?
When you say you install a 235-85-16 tire you saying that's larger than stock or just better? And if it's larger does that add another inch or two to the ride height?
Yes it is bigger then stock and will give it another +1.5. +
what is the largest tire you have installed on a e450 without modding the front wheel well and fender? Alyssa had emailed me and said the standard tire you guys use is KO2 235/785/16e is this the largest? im looking for an aggressive width along with height,
235x85x16 is the tire that is installed with the 6"kit
The looks is amazing
Thank you so much for your support.
The R/V manufacturing company should do all this or buy from another!
thanks for the video. gave me the info to make a decision on suspension upgrade or trade my new vegas in the diesel pusher motorhome. Such a poor ride over pot holes on new vehicle is terrible. I think the industry is intentionally going to small of suspension?> You recommend anyone in michigan for 4" lift.
Love it I have to do a lift kit on Myby coachmen 32 foot
Yes... it is so nice with the new suspension.
My biggest issue with this lift kit is my overall hight, at stock hight the rv is 11' 3" with 6"s that's 15' 3" that is 2' 2" taller than your typical semi trailer. Is any one having issues with getting under said gas station canopies or anything?
I'm not sure about your math? Isn't 11' 3" + 6" = 11' 9" ?
@larrycox6614 lol! Dude, it wasn't until I was at work explaining this thought to a buddy of mine, and it dawned on me that I was thinking, and that is where I messed up. Lol
Have the safe-t plus stabilizer and front sumo springs. Ride is good and sumo helped a bit and added about an inch. I will be talking to a local company in Tacoma WA about installing your 6 inch kit. Assume if they are reputable and work on commercial vehicles installing your kit should not be an issue for them. Also assume you have techs available so they can get any questions answered?
Also- looking for clearance so I can get up my driveway without ripping off my jacks or step.
$650 to replace rear shocks for 90 minutes of labor? Another $650 for rear anti sway bar for maybe 45 minutes labor?
Hey Great Video! That's our Rear SuperSteer Tracbar! Interested in doing some cross-collaboration?
Koni FSD shocks would’ve been a better upgrade
Or just add rear airbags, stiffer front coils and adjust caster angle for $800. $8200 is insanity... like that California type of insanity.
seems like your web site is down.
I have a2019 24 foot E-350. Can I do the same changes? Mine wanders going down the highway.
I have the same rig; all these upgrades are done by the manufacturer. This package is called Jride. Will I notice a improvement in handling and overall ride with your 2" lift?
I've been wanting to purchase the 2" lift kit so I can bolt it on myself. I'm hoping to purchase one size up in tires shooting for about 3" total increase in height. Does the 2" kit require any welding?
Jayco J ride is poop! Our lift will actually improve the ride!
This kit does not need welding. Jayco J ride video COMING SOON.....
lol the labor is nuts the front end alone could be done in the drive way with hand tools…
Correct! Labor does require nuts, bolts and some hand tools!
SO FOR $1018.89 DOLLAR DIFFERENCE YOU GET A BETTER SAFETY RIDE AND CLEARANCE? SO WHY ARE YOU NOT HOOKING UP WITH YOUR LOCAL RV DEALERS IN SOUTHERN CAL FOR THE PACKAGE DEAL? I'N MY OPINION, YOU SHOULD MARKET THE LIFT KITS AT SEMI INSTEAD OF THE VAN BUILDS.....JUST SAYING. $$$$$$
Will you ship to Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada? 🙏🙏🙏
All of the WeldTec Designs products can be shipped to Canada
@@jeremysworld10 yep! 😁 Mine are here and will be installed in one week ❤️❤️❤️👍🏻😁
How much weight did you add to the rig with the new kit and the prices to the first kit are those your prices for install or an in general price?
These are general prices for install and pricing as found online.
Totally yay man
Do you have a E-450 kit?
Yes, we do. Please see our website. Thanks for watching! - Austin K
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Mouth of marbles.... just want to make sure your paying attention.
@@jeremyjohnson8361 right on
I like your work and products, but your labor estimates for the customer installed parts are outrageously out of line! $650 to install a rear anti-sway bar? Are you kidding? I think you loose some credibility with these wild exaggerations on labor price!
it may sound crazy but lets say 3-4hrs at $175 an hour which the local RV shop charges to install..... Of course you could self install and save yourself $$$ for gas....
Where are you located ?
We are located in San Diego, CA
@@WeldtecDesigns Can you move to Florida? Thx
Lift kits are dumb. The axle stays at the same height as well as the front suspension. You are only raising the body
YOUR DUMB>>>> LOL ... yes you are correct that the axle stays at the same height but now WITH the lift kit you can run a larger tire which now increase the clearance between the ground and axle....... With better springs and shocks your going to get a better ride, but who would want that in an rv! I bought an rv because my wife wouldn't let me buy a boat... Lucky for me I still feel like im in a boat when driving the RV...... LMAO