How the 1946-47 Wurlitzer 1015 Jukebox Works, Part 2: The Record Playing Mechanism
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- In this video, Part 2 of the 3-Part Series: The step-by-step function of the 1946-47 Wurlitzer 1015 Record Playing Mechanism is explained and demonstrated. This is an opportunity to see inside the world's most famous jukebox and discover what makes it "tick". Be sure to watch the Part 1 video first, as it sets the groundwork for Part 2. Part 3, explaining the function of the W-1015 Sound System, is also available.
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If you are interested in the inner workings of classic Wurlitzer jukeboxes, I have several other videos featuring different systems within the jukebox:
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The craftsmanship back then was insane! You got what you paid for. Thanks for this.
You're welcome, MM. Glad you liked it :)
Wow - this makes me want to pick up a jukebox and restore it. Thanks for helping to keep these things alive for future generations!
You're welcome, NR. It's a real challenge, but definitely worth the time, trouble, and expense.
Thanks so much for these Doug. They are an excellent way to demonstrate the mechanisms of the 40's era Wurlitzers. Your video is much easier to figure out how this works compared with reading the manual.
You're welcome, RTO. I'm glad the videos were helpful and of interest.
I restored several of these jukeboxes so I am knowledgeable of the internals of the 1015 and how everything works. Your video showing this is very informative and well done. Thanks for taking the time and effort of showing how this great piece of Americana works.
You're welcome, SF3. I'm glad you liked the video :)
Please someone help me
I never knew how intricate the workings were on any jukebox till I saw this film. Nice job explaining the workings. Pretty cool
Thanks, TL.
Creativity at its best. Marvellous engineering. Have seen such jukeboxes in Mumbai's (India) Irani Restaurants (1960s), played records but had no idea what went on inside. Thanks for this fascinating journey through a jukebox!
You're welcome, Gopal. Thanks for watching :)
Love this video Doug, I restored a 56' seeburg JL100 about 5 years ago. I still have the juke to this day.
Thanks, Jeff. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
WOW! What a great tutorial on the old original playing systems - such mechanical genius! I love it! - Pat 👍
Thanks, Pat. I agree that the Wurlitzer engineers were pretty darned creative.
About to buy one of these and wondered how difficult it was. You made that so easy. Understood every single thing you said.
That's good to hear, Alan. Best of luck with your new jukebox.
Thanks for the quick reply. I just got my 1015 this past spring so I hope to start on it this winter or sooner. Love your videos, they are easy to understand.
Thanks, TB. I tend to keep oil only in the bearings and on the articulating surfaces. It's a tendency fostered by working on wristwatches and clocks for many years.
That fibre wheel looks to be "Tufnol" a phenolic based material.. You are a very talented engineer .. You could make TV shows of this sort of thing,, Id be watching every night.!!! My mother bought me a Mecano set when I was 5, and that got me hooked on repairing things for the next 60 years.. Thanks for taking time out to give us this vid...
Thanks so much, WN. In my youth, my parents did the same, but it was an Erector Set, with which I built ferris wheels, elevators, etc. It really got me interested in engineering and construction.
Thanks for this great video! I recently acquired a non-working 1015 and have just started troubleshooting. The thing lights up, the motor and amplifier work but it doesn’t select records. If I physically move the mechanism up to engage the record with the needle it plays fine. Just need to do some detective work to see what’s going on. Your video will help immensely. Thanks!
I hope so, Martyn. Good luck with your new project :)
Impressive demonstration with detail! You have a legend in your hands! Congrats!...
Thank you, Lhupa. I really appreciate your kind appraisal. :)
Beautiful things need to be mentioned!... Thank you!
You're welcome :)))
Another great video.
I used to want to buy a jukebox, especially this classic Wurlitzer model, because of the cool mechanics and looks but kind of forgotten about it through the years.
These series of videos revived that wish, so I guess I'll be checking the classifieds again soon!
+ericBdrums Thanks, Eric. Jukeboxes have become a bit scarce lately and their intricacy can make them difficult to repair and maintain. Good luck with your quest.
An engineering marvel, a joy to watch.
Yes, the mechanism should move easily when you rotate the universal joint with your hand. If it doesn't then there is a good chance that you will either burn out the motor (be sure it is properly fused) or strip the big fiber drive gear. If you are mechanically inclined, I recommend disassembly of the mechanism, a thorough cleaning (I use lacquer thinner on all metal and fiber parts), and then reassembly with modern lubricants (synthetic oil and grease on heavy-wear surfaces).
Absolutely love your explanation, it’s on my list to get a restored on. Transport to Australia is the problem. Got a new sub
I agree, pinbret. I don't even consider WD40 to be a lubricant. Something else that does work well is synthetic wheel bearing grease. Thanks for your kind comments. I hope all is well in San Diego.
IMO, You've done a great service sharing this amalgamation of analogue ingenuity. Let's pop the dog leg!
Glad to hear it, Ross. Thanks.
Et Parns: Your comment had no reply capability, so I'll respond up here. It's virtually impossible to troubleshoot a jukebox without actually seeing it in person. The mechanism is quite complex and verbal descriptions of parts and actions are generally impossible to decipher. There is a sliding sleeve next to the big fiber gear that is slid away from the fiber gear by a knife-like blade when the turntable is at the top of its lift. When it slides away, the motor mechanism is disconnected from the pinions and fiber gear, leaving the mech in neutral. When the record is over, the knife blade is lifted, the sliding sleeve is released and re-engages the mechanism to let down the turntable and go to the shut down point. I hope this makes sense. Good luck.
On the 1938 Seeburg Classic Symphonola, the drag the trip mechanism put on the tonearm & consequently on the grooves of the 78 toward the end of the tune was so high it basically would wear the records down so much that after about 20 plays, the last 45sec or so of the record was almost nothing but hiss. From what I understand, the jukebox folks would visit restaurants on a timed interval (probably per week for high usage, and replace the worn out records.
On my 1938 I didn't want to wear down the records so I replaced the tonearm with an early 60's Garrard tone arm & substituted a micro switch with long wire that the tonearm triggered instead of the physical lever & then installed a solenoid to do the actual triggering. I did that when I was about 12yrs old & it kept working past when I sold it. I also kept the original triggering parts as well as the original tonearm in case anyone wanted to put it back to original. I see where that box is only worth about $1800-2000 these days. Even the famous 1015's have lost a lot of their value as the appreciators of such technology & 78's is diminishing along with the age of the appreciators! Great videos on the Juke as well as all the tube amps! Thanx again. Glen Mars Amp Repair
Thanks for your input, Glen. The 1948 W-1100 had a very light weight tone arm and cartridge.....and solenoid-assisted shut off, much like you "invented" for your '38 Seeburg. Yours was ten years ahead of its time :)
Great video! Thanks for your clear explanation. Love this kind of old valve (tube) technology.
Glad you enjoyed it, Peter.
What an amazing machine! Thanks for posting a video like this! I have always wondered how one of these 1015s work. I'd love to find one to restore myself. Add it to my wishlist of projects! For now I'm back to learning about tube amps, thanks for those videos as well!!
You're welcome, Wayne. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos and hope you can find a nice 1015 to restore. Best of luck !!!
Doug,nice done, the 1015 is a rather complex mechanic device, I've rebuilt one 2 year's ago, i was more simple if i had your explanation at that moment (its working fine now).
Greetings, Rene. Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad your restoration went well. Best of luck !!!
As I mention in the video, I too am apprehensive about the fiber gear because of the nightmare of replacing it. I've found the best lubricant for it to be plain old Vaseline, fed into the gear teeth while it rotates....removing any excess that accumulates on the sides. For the rest of the mechanism, I use my own mixture of Mobil 1, ATF, and graphite powder. It provides exceptional lubrication and never dries out.
Brilliant!
@@alexmcgrath7645 Thanks, Alex :)
I've been going over at 1015 I just acquired recently that hasn't run in 10 years. Your videos are very helpful, thank you. Need to set this up on Freeplay and wondered if you could confirm that you jump pins 1 and 8 and also 5 and 6 on the plug from the Credit Unit. I'm a musician and also really like your vintage amp/ guitar videos. I own a 1965 Fender Jazz Bass and have toured with Clarence Carter, Percy Sledge, the Gregg Allman Band and a few others you may have heard of. Keep up the good work
Greetings, BB. It's good to hear from you. Yes, for free play you jumper the pins you named. Good luck with your new 1015.
I guess you could say that the motion of the player mechanism is "programmed" by the positions of the cams and gears within it. It's a mechanical programming, rather than electronic, but the functional steps are systematic and predetermined, just like with a computer program.
Thanks Doug --- I looked at the back of the selector circle and saw that two rods were protruding. I simply pushed them back in, and now the juke functions perfectly again. Must have had a sticking rod or two, if that exists …
Eric
Streamliner 1000 That's great news, Eric. I'm glad you got the jukebox operating again :)
muy buena su explicación. mi padre fue operador de la 1015 y yo aprendi de el , las conozco hasta el ultimo tornillo. todavía tenemos repuestos del mecanismo y otras cosa mas.
Saludos, Miguel, y gracias por sus amables palabras. Es bueno que se están llevando a cabo en su padre. Son pocas las personas que comprenden plenamente este jukebox. Gracias por ver y de publicar sus comentarios.
Uncle Doug
Thanks Uncle Doug.
If your friend wants to sell the Marshall, please keep me in mind.
Do you sell items in either field?
I will, Chris, but I doubt that he will ever sell it. Yes, I occasionally sell home-built items as well as vintage amps, generally to viewers, sometimes on Ebay.
Doug, Loved your videos and am amazed at how clean the inside of your Jukes are!!.
I like many inherited my 1015 and it works almost perfectly.
My issue - As I press the selection buttons, I receive a very convincing sound that the selection has been made and the credit is used. Most times the record plays correctly; however, sometimes for certain buttons nothing further happens, the Juke stays idle. I shut down the machine and then later after restarting the juke, the button which previously didn't engage works fine, with the record playing as intended.
When I make a selection and it works as intended, the central plate quickly moves backward against the back plate and then quickly back to center. Your video seems to show it move backward and then stay in place against the back plate for the duration of play. If I push the screw in which is located on the master controller switch (in the middle of the selector coil, my 1015 plays each record in order, 1, 2, 3, etc.
I think possibly the selector rod pins on the back of my selector coil may need lubrication. Do you believe I am on the right track (pun intended)? Do you have a recommendation for lubricating the selector rods and if so, do I need to remove the selector coil from the unit to gain access? If I'm not on the right track, can you provide an opinion on my next step forward?
Question two, when I insert a quarter, my 1015 provides three plays. I would like to change it to five (or more). Is this an easy setting within the coin grinder?
Your expertise and time are most appreciated.
Thanks, Bill. The selector rods must be very clean and without lubrication. Removal of the circular coil assembly will facilitate the cleaning and understanding necessary to resolve the issue. There is a small loop of wire in the coin grinder that has been cut to reduce the number of plays for a quarter. Look inside and you'll see it.
@@UncleDoug Hi Doug, As I sat looking at the Juke, (I seem to do that a lot on most of my projects), I found that one of the lead wires to the coil was parted and barely touching the connection tab. I was successful in adjusting and soldering the wire back in place. I'm thinking I may wait to see if the machine selector now works OK before removing the drum. I keep thinking removing the selector drum must be a bit like pulling a bandaid? Pretty scary until you do it.
Next steps for me are to lubricate the internals and polish nickel parts. That and figure out where the extra pieces found in the bottom belong before something implodes (2 screws of different sizes and 2 brass or copper shims). Along with the Juke, I also received several containers of 3 in 1 oil. I'm on the fence, would you use 3 in 1 for the various parts requiring light oil? I noted in one post that you mentioned you use Vaseline on the fiber gears. Do you still do this?
In looking, it appears that some of the nickel fascia parts seem to be much easier to remove than others. Are there any pitfalls I should be watching for? I guess I should add here that I did purchase replacement "inner" door plastics from Victory and I have removed the originals, so things on the door face are fairly open at the moment.
Thanks again, your time and insight are greatly appreciated.
@@billfroelich2375 I really can't provide all the very lengthy instructions in this format, Bill. My advice is to simply work steadily and carefully to resolve each issue. Good luck.
@@UncleDoug Thank you Sir!
Hi Doug
My turntable has stopped raising all the way and stops about 1/4" to 1/2" short of the needle. I think the turntable lift link has become loose, so I'm going to pull the chassis out of the box and check that part and the rest to make sure all parts are tight. Is this a common issue?
I'm also going to polish the record tray stack. Can you tell me what you use to keep these part shiny longer.
Beautiful juke box
Thanks, Neil.
This is amazing. Thank you for your explanation. I thought I may be able to repair my jukebox by myself but...hopelessly, this video has shown me, understanding the mechanism is way over my head. My unit is is perfect condition with the exception of my records will not reject automatically when completed. Is it possible that you know a repairman in Arizona? Please...not Jukebox George. He repaired an amp for $600 then left saying he could fix this problem (which did not exist previously) for another $500 but he would need to take it to his shop. I am desperate. I love this thing.
You might contact Brad at Jukegarage@Cox.net He is in Phoenix and knows everyone in the area.
it's amazing what could be done completely mechanically.
Glad you liked it, Do :)
I owned a 1938 Seeburg Symphonola or years. Interesting how similar the Wurlitzer is to the Seeburg or possibly visa-versa. The 'later' Seeburg mechs very close in theory to the 1938 mech. Also worked on a 60's Seeburg H100F and it's mech had vestiges of the earlier Seeburg's, too. I'll be working on a 1947 Wurlitzer here in about a week. Should be fun. Glad to have Uncle Doug's reference here of live operation. Glen - Mars Amp Repair
Welcome to our channel, Glen. The early Seeburgs had sliding tray mechanisms as I recall, while the Rockola and Wurlitzer had horizontal swing-out rings. Good luck with your jukebox repairs.
This is a well explained video. I have maintained my 1015 for 13 years now. Your mech seems very dry. I use the zoom spout turbin oil.
I appreciate your knowledge so much.
Good morning Uncle Doug thank you for posting these wonderful videos. I don't think I would have been able to fix what I have fixed already if it wasn't for the videos. Do you need the amp to be plugged in for the heart shape cam work? My guess is the answer is no considering I think you were moving yours by hand. Which I cannot do. you also had a video in which I believe you stated the amp was unplugged and your cam was still moving.
I have a 1015 Wurlitzer jukebox and the Heart shaped cam does not want to turn. Seems like it's jammed or maybe even it needs oil. I see the oil marking on the Cam unit. What type of oil should I use? Also what other things on the machine should be oiled? This machine has probably been sitting around for about 30 or 40 years without any use in my Dads basement.
Everything else seems to be working properly. The Cam seems to be jammed or not moving easily like the one I seen on your video. The rotary arm does release the star wheel but after that there's no movement from the Cam at all. At that point the machine tries to grab a record but doesn't then the record player comes down and the star will get engaged again by the rotary arm.
I had the motor rebuilt for the jukebox. I can send you an email video if you like but I would need to know where to send it. Therefore see is easier than trying to explain what I see. thank you for the information so far.
Diane
Greetings, Diane. You can normally turn the heart-shaped cam by hand, but (of course) no portion of the mechanism should move unassisted, with the motor unplugged. Please Note: Although I posted videos of jukeboxes in my collection, I am not a jukebox repairman. My advice is to purchase a Service Manual for your jukebox and utilize the diagrams within to aid you in your repair efforts. Good luck.
thats so complex,took some working out. imagin doug going back with a tiny mp3 player with a 1000 songs on it. and the cost of each. great video thanks
+freak55beat They would probably burn you at the stake for sorcery, FB, if you showed up back in 1947 with a tiny MP3 player that held 1000 songs :)
Excellent and detailed presentation which looks and sounds like it's from someone with a background in the education field. Mechanical engineering in those days was very innovative and creative. What record is playing at the very end? It's a catchy tune.
Thanks, GJ. Yes, I was a classroom math and science teacher for many years. I'm not sure which record was playing.....I've changed out the selections since the video. Perhaps a viewer will recognize it.
Thanks for confirming my guess! Such a methodical, organized, and detailed presentation couldn't possibly have come from anyone who didn't have a lot of experience in teaching, not to mention this model of jukebox! I am just a humble electronic and IT technician, but did work on a lot of turntables back in the day. What is nice about mechanical systems, is they can be observed visually which makes them somewhat easier to understand than electronic circuitry. That must be why I've often been questioned about how I am able to understand electronics - it's more theoretical, and although you can measure voltages, currents, and waveforms on a scope, it's necessary to be able to visualize in your mind from the schematic how the circuit works. I guess this comes easier to some than others.
I may yet buy a 1015, after I've finished helping out with post-secondary education costs for my 2 daughters - ha ha! I don't care for digital music sources so much, give me a vinyl record any day! I sure like the sound from the tube amp and nice big speaker of this jukebox - great bass and bass line in that selection playing at the end of this most excellent presentation!
You're welcome, GJ. We truly appreciate your nice comments. After a lifetime of working on them, I too feel more comfortable with mechanical devices that lend themselves to visual evaluation, but have found the transition to electronics to be much easier if I maintain a mental concept of them as electron-flow (and thus somewhat "mechanical".....or at least analog) mechanisms in which the internal movement is monitored with scopes and meters, rather than simple observation.
Finally figured out that song being played ;
m.th-cam.com/video/es8wr1CgV-g/w-d-xo.html
I really enjoyed the video
I'm glad, MS. Thanks for watching :)
Hello
Just bought this machine and i know any jukebox hates to be moved
Your videos are such a help and thanks for uploading them.
I have to learn to do small jobs myself but i am always a little nervous.
My machine has been changed to free play but i would like to get that restored to original in the future.
I have just bought replacement decals for the coin pricing and green selection sign as they were changed to UK coins in the 1970's.
How do i change the coin decal over the three slots and also the selection decal and green plastic?
Thanks for uploading such great in depth videos you make my understanding of this classic jukbox so much
Happy Holidays
Andrew
Greetings, Andrew, and congratulations on your recent acquisition. Trying to verbally describe these maneuvers is quite challenging. Your best bet would be to open the front door and locate and unscrew the screws that hold the frames (containing the plastic pieces you want to replace) to the door front. Once you have the frames in your hands, you will be able to see how the plastics are held in place....and you can exchange the plastic inserts. Good luck.
BTW. I follow your TH-cam musician's amp repairs, too. I have some good info regarding compensating for the drop inherent in the selenium rectifier when replaced with silicone diodes and not with a series resistor. Not sure where I should post that! Thanx for all, Glen - MarsAmpRepair
Glen, you are welcome to post it on my FB page: Uncle Doug's Vintage Amps.
Hi Uncle Doug! Great video, thank you for posting this. I am in the process of restoring a 1015. I now have everything operating properly from the coin in to the correct record selected and the mechanism will start playing the chosen selection. Trouble is that as soon as the platter reaches the top playing position it drops and the whole thing starts again with the next chosen selection. This process will repeat itself over and over until all selections have been started and shut down. The platter will not stay locked in the up position so the record can play more than a couple of seconds? Basically I am stuck in a permanent change cycle. The Dog leg has been removed by a previous technician and replaced with a small switch. and solenoid combination which locks the catch in place until the tone arm is moved, which then activates the small switch. This seems to be operating properly but is not how the service manual or your video shows the end cycle, so I cant troubleshoot this. Do you provide phone service, I would be willing to pay for your time to discuss this issue if that is possible? Thank you for your time and excellent videos!
Long distance troubleshooting of complex mechanisms is generally unfeasible, Stefan, but I'll try. When the turntable reaches its highest point, a knife blade disengages the player mechanism from the fiber gear, leaving the turntable up and in playing mode, until the tone arm swings inward, hits the dog leg, lifts the knife blade, and allows the mechanism to lower the turntable and go back to rest. Somebody has replaced the mechanism that accomplishes this with the shutoff mechanism for a W-1100. This can probably work, but you need to find out why the knife blade is not disengaging the player mech from the fiber gear.
Thank you, that was the issue. I looked all over in there and missed that bar. It was frozen in the up position. Cleaned her up re lubed it and everything is functioning properly. Can't thank you enough for your advise.
Would you be willing to recommend a quality source for replacement plastics, bubbler tubes and other replacement parts for my project?
That fiber gear gave me flashbacks to the time I had to replace the fiber timing gear in my Mercury (Ford) Capri with a 2.8l V6. It wasn't a good idea then, either! lol
I guess they do it for noise-reduction, Z, and the fact that the fiber material will hold oil lubrication......but these fiber discs tend to act like fuses and fail at the first sign of excess resistance in the operation of the mechanism, and they are devils to replace. Not a good combination.
What a beautiful machine. Crazy complicated design, but obviously robust. Hard to believe that these were economically viable operating for coins.
Thanks, Bill. I agree that it must have taken quite a while for one of these jukeboxes to pay for itself.....but apparently they did. It was a huge and profitable business, at one time.
Your mechanism assembly appears to move very easily by hand, is that normal? Because mine does not and it keeps jamming up. I have been thinking I will have take mine apart and clean and regrease everything. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
hello Uncle Doug
you are doing great service to people like me around the globe
would appreciate your help with a hint
I looked at the service repair manual but couldn't find one
i am working the motor directly with the light socket to have it running (as explained in the manual)
I does run and every thing looks great but it goes in a loop
i.e. the cam that is responsible to hold the rod that holds the plate just never stops revolving
this causes the mechanism to start all over again and it do not stop at the cam (upper peak position (to allow the record plate to continue revolving) it jusr drops after the cam continues to revolve
what should happen when the cam reaches top position and why mine continues to revolve?
I am far from any wurlitzer technician and this might be the only 1015 here is Israel
any hint would be appreciated
Thanks for the great videos
Do you have information on the wurlitzer 2000 jukebox and wallbox?
Very thorough video. Thanks
RB
No I don't, Randall, but I'll bet that information is available on the internet. Good luck.
I have a 1015 which keeps cancelling as soon as the tone arm comes out. The same record comes out again and then immediately cancels once the tone arm touches the record. Do you have any idea where I should be looking to remedy this? I really miss listening to my old 78's. Thanks for posting the video. Best regards, jek.
It's impossible to verbally explain the details of the operating cycle. Your best bet is to buy a service manual from Victory Glass Company and look at the illustrated sequence of operation. Good luck.
It would be great if you would do a video showing the proper lubrication and care for this jukebox.
+cheechball That's a good suggestion, CB. I will keep it in mind for a future video.
+Uncle Doug Hey! I second that request! My newly acquired 1015 was stuck on one record. I cleaned the de-selector mech. and it cycled great....up until the point where the record tray was lifted and then fell right back down! Anyway, I had a friend build a steel tubed stand (on wheels) and am planning on pulling everything out to make life easier....just as soon as I get my P-12 running with a lightweight tonearm. Cheers Uncle Doug!
Thanks, Ken.....likewise :)
Great videos !!
Thanks, Kal. I'm glad you liked them :)
wow, what an extraordinary mechanical wonder! Plus like you sort of said, that this machine helped out with the baby boom, playing that devils music }:^) we had a Chinese food diner that had remote selection and collection boxes. quite nostalgic. im afraid the young people today won’t get those feelings, the worlds become a complicated and confusing place, ive quit watching the news now for 5 years, and I feel great mentally. your voice and calm speaking, really does soothe the soul. did you ever get to see Stevie Ray Vaughan live? he’s one of my favorites, if I ever make it to Texas im going to make a point of visiting his grave. maybe ill be there April 8 2024 for the total eclipse of the sun.
Thanks, Russell. Glad you enjoyed it. One of my greatest regrets is not seeing SRV in person.
@@UncleDoug I never got to see him either. I still remember where I was when I heard the news that he’d died a tragic day indeed
Pretty awesome and far out,,,,very neat
Thanks, Sean :)
in my experience I just don't like to use any WD 40 or any penetrating oil on fiber gears I prefer Aviation grade synthetic grease after its been thoroughly cleaned with non abrasive hand cleaner ... and a hard toothbrush great videos I've been watching all of them thanks again cheers from San Diego
Question: if someone pulled the plug on the Wurlitizer while an old 78 was playing, would the arm skip across the record, scratching it with a terrible sound, or just stop?
Everything including the turntable and tonearm would simply cease moving.
I just got a 1080 machine. I have been racking my brain trying to figure this thing out. after you make a selection everything works as it should. Once the record pops up and spins it plays for about 1 second and then drops like its finished. As far as i can tell everything in the cancel selection looks to be where it should. I'm going to go home and watch this video again while working on it. Anything you can think of to check in that mechanism? Thanks for a great video
You can order a shop manual from Victory Glass Company. It goes through the entire operating system in great detail.
Hello Doug thanks for your reply
Sorry to ask another question
My 1015 on certain records rejects before the record finishes could you please give me a clue as how to solve this
Thanks again and Happy Holidays
Andrew, you need to get a 1015 Service Manual, which is available from Victory Glass Co. in Iowa (and probably many other places, including Ebay). The manual has diagrams and describes how to make adjustments in the mechanism. If I told you that "the dog leg trip arm needs to be adjusted outward to delay initiation of the shut off sequence" (visible at 7:50 in the video) it would probably make no sense, but with the manual's diagrams and descriptions of the parts and how they function, it probably would. Happy holidays to you too :)
So you didn't go into the torsion spring, which is a point of a lot of issues, and also is an important part of the operation of the mech, in as much as how it can can continue cycling after locating a pin. I think it would have been good to touch on that.
The video was directed toward people with a casual interest in jukeboxes, SM, and I think a rather esoteric topic like that, although important to the function of the mechanism, would probably be overkill :)
How does the jukebox keep track of what records were selected and in what order and how many songs you have left?
Will the tracks even play in the order you selected them or will it play in whatever order the records are already in.
There is an array of 24 solenoids. Each time you select a record, the corresponding solenoid is energized and pushes out a pin that stops the selector mechanism and makes the jukebox play that record. The pin is reset back in the solenoid once the record is played. The records are played in numerical order, not in the order they are selected.
Thanks.
Uncle Bob: I have inherited a vintage Wurlitzer 1015 and have cleaned all the rods, levers, and all joints. Then lubricated all known spots with the proper oil. I also took the tone arm off to install a new cartridge and wires. Also installed the new cartridge bracket. The cartridge seems to be seated at an angle. Have checked other lollipop tonearms on the internet and they all seem to show the cartridge at a slight angle. When I tried playing my jukebox records the tone arm doesn't start in the right spot and then when I put it in the right spot, it plays fine for awhile then ends up staying in one spot on all records. Please help. Hopefully it is an easy fix.
It sounds like you're making good progress with the 1015 restoration, John, but it's simply not possible for me to troubleshoot by long distance. Repairs like this require on-site observation. Watch carefully when the malfunction occurs and determine its cause.....there are many possibilities. Also, you should buy a 1015 technical manual from Victory Glass Co. It will show how to make all the necessary adjustments. Good luck.
Thanks Do you use any lube on the fiber gear? I have dreams about the fiber gear.
hi doug, super cool video! I am restoring my dad's old 1015 and as of now it registers the coin and selection but does not select or play the record. I ordered the service manual, just wondering if you have any suggestions...
Thanks, Heather. I think you did the right thing by ordering the manual. In such a complex device, there are numerous possible causes for not selecting or playing.....far more than I could possibly discuss in this limited format. Best of luck.
Nice clear explanation.
Can you give me a tip on why the arm is lifting prematurely from the record.
As I watch it run it is add so if the dog leg is too close or too high?
Thanks. Yes. The dogleg needs to be adjusted to allow tripping only when the needle enters the inner shutoff band.
@@UncleDoug do you have any tips on how to know where and how to set the dogleg. I see how it operates but can’t get to it easily nor do I know where it should be without a lot of trial and error
@@benberriochoa46 Observe how it functions, then adjust it further away from the actuator arm on the base of the tone arm. Trial and error is necessary.
Hello. I inherited a 1015 but it continues to play the same record over and over again. I had a jukebox repairman said the star wheel had a bent prong. So I ordered a new one. Is this something I can do by myself if I am not mechanically inclined? It has two screws that I take off but I don't want to mess it up. Your thoughts. (The repairman is better with older models).
Since the Wurlitzer selector mechanism is basically unchanged from their very first 1930's models through the Model1100 in 1948, I don't understand how any repairman could possibly have experience with "older" models than the 1947 Model 1015. That said, you can carefully bend the arms of the star wheel to restore it to original spacing and condition. However, since you already ordered the part, then be careful to install it right-side-out, identical to the old star wheel. I warn you however that there are many, many different adjustments required to make the mechanism properly, and without a service manual and lots of experience, it will be quite challenging. Good luck.
Wouldn’t a metal gear be a better longevity option ? Seems there was not overload protection in case of a mechanical jam
I have an old 1015 and need help. The Band, Spring and Clip Assembly (31531) broke and was replaced. But now the Electric Selector Drum doesn't turn. This is because the Pin and Washer Assembly (30320) is on the wrong side of Selector Drive Ratchet Assembly (30327), thus it cannot turn the shaft. The only option that I see is removing the Spring, Torsion spring (26856) [all on page 14]. But is under a lot of torsion and not sure this is a good idea.
Any help is appreciated.
It's been many years since I worked on that part of the player mechanism, Eddie. All I can do is suggest that you carefully analyze the issue and do what you think is best. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Good luck.
Uncle Doug, I need to adjust the speed on 1015. It is slightly slower than it should be. My question is up or down on turn table wheel? Thank you
There is no way to adjust turntable speed, William. The turntable shaft is gear driven and the rotational speed is determined by the gear ratio. If yours is slow, it is due to excess friction in the system.
Uncle Doug ... I have a 1015 that my mom and dad gave me. The record is stuck in the play position and even though I found your video informative, I wish the angle was a little different. How can I contact you to find out more? I would really appreciate the help :-)
Greetings, FG. I no longer engage in personal consultations, but can offer some advice on how to eliminate the jam. With the motor unplugged, hold the reject button in and reach in and turn the universal joint by hand forward to see if you can manually advance the mechanism to the shutoff position. If the U-joint spins freely, you may have to manually slide the shutoff fingers into engagement in the fiber wheel slots. If the U-joint is jammed, then back it off a bit and try to figure out and resolve the cause of the jam. If none of this makes sense, then perhaps you could order a service manual from Victory Glass Co. on line. Good luck.
Wow! It is amazing on what makes these things tic. Just curious though, are you still able to get parts for these things?
Yes, most of the parts are readily available......but rather expensive.
Hello uncle Doug. im in the process of gathering some parts i will need for a 412 . where were you able to get replacement parts for this unit like the fiber gears etc."wear items". Any help is appreciated .:):)
You can order most of the parts you need from Victory Glass Company in Des Moines, Iowa. Best of luck with your restoration.
Hi
I have a Wurlitzer 1015 that is stuck on one song selection and can’t seem to figure it out. When I looked at it I found one of the levers was not where it was supposed to be so a rod would move the lever to make the platter go up and down. As you can probably figure out by now I don’t the proper name of things. I have pictures but not sure how to send them to you. Any help would be very much appreciated. I am mechanically inclined. Thanks Cliff.
I already responded, Cliff. Good luck.
What a wonderful machnisum
Yes, it is, GS.
This video was great! I recently inherited a model 500 Wurlitzer jukebox , the mechanism was completely froze up but this vid helped me get it playing again for the first time in decades :) problem I’m stuck with though...now that it’s running it won’t stop playing!!! It keeps doing a full rotation and playing another random record. It has the older 1930s style keyboard style track select, but I have nothing selected and it just keeps going...any advice?
There should be a credit/cancel unit bolted to the mechanism, with a copper-colored gear that looks like a saw blade. This gear is advanced one tooth for each credit (i.e. the deposit of a nickle in the coin mechanism) and is decremented one tooth for each play. Once it gets back to zero position, it will shut off the mechanism. Yours must either be missing or not functioning properly.
Uncle Doug Thanks for the reply! Yup that looks like that’s the problem, the coin slots are there with the credit gear, but looks like someone completely cut off the power cord for it at some point so there’s no way I can hook it back up...looks like I’ll have to find some way to rewire a power cord and plug for it if it can.
Fabulous video and explanation. Question: My 1015 is not rejecting at the end of playing a record. The tone arm does advance very close to the record label, but I have to manually reject it. Can you tell me how to adjust the dog leg so that it will reject as it should? I tried some stuff, but made the records skip. I have it back to playing well, but I need help with an adjustment to get it to reject. THANK YOU!
Thanks, Sandie. The inner ring of the record should make the tone arm swing back and forth about 1/2". On the inner swing, the tone arm lever with the roller bearing should hit the part of the dog leg that goes upward at a 45 degree angle. If it doesn't you can shorten the dog leg with the roller nut in its horizontal portion. Good luck.
@@UncleDoug Thanks, Doug, for your reply. I am not as well versed as I would like to be, so your description has me scratching my head! I do have the 'Service Instructions' and had tried to shorten the dog leg using the roller nut and loosening the screw that I thought held it in place, but that is when the records started to skip. I suspect I overdid things ;-(. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Any chance that you could post a short video on TH-cam that shows how to make that adjustment? Or, do you perhaps make house calls or know of someone in South Florida who could fix this for me? THANK YOU so much!
sandie
i gave the same issue . how did you fix this?
@@drtammi Hi Tammi, Unfortunately, I could not fix it, despite Doug's advice and hours of adjustments. I actually thought I was making it worse, so it's back to where it was when I posted the question and I am having to use the reject at the end of most of the records. I am truly an amateur with the mechanics of this jukebox, and it's on my list to try to find a professional in South Florida who can fix this for me. If I do and get more info that may help you, I will post it here. Please do the same. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
I have a 1015 that is not working but I don't want to get rid of. I've had one jukebox repairman spend 4 hrs trying to repair, then saying it needed a new star wheel, which I installed with the help of a friend. Still not working. I can't find a person like yourself who can fix my jukebox. There are so far and few of you guys. Any suggestions?
I'm sorry, Liz, but non-availability of technical assistance is a real shortcoming of jukebox ownership. You might look in the Yellow Pages for Amusement Devices (Arcade machines).....maybe they will have or know of an old timer who could work on it for you. Good luck.
On my Wurlitzer 1015, after a music selection is made, the corresponding selector rod is released; however, the selector arm does not rotate, and nothing further takes place; motor is running smoothly and there is no apparent problem.
I know these machines need to be seen, in person, to really get at what ails them from time to time, but I wondered if there was a specific mechanical action not taking place that would account for the selector arm to not rotate around the selector drum?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
As you said, James, long distance verbal troubleshooting is just a guessing game. Do you have a tech manual? If not check the Victory Glass site.
@@UncleDoug Thanks for your response. Yes, I have the manual, and it describes the selector arm rotating and stopping when it strikes an extended selector rod; however, I do not see in the manual how the selector arm is actuated, or what causes the selector arm to rotate i.e. is it a camming action; position of main shaft etc. As I noted before, motor is running smoothly; gears are turning as they should; just seems that there is an obvious reason the selector arm is not turning that I'm not seeing.
Thank You!
You're welcome, Chris.
Uncle Doug, I'm not sure my Star Wheel is properly engaging. What is supposed to be between the plates that will make the wheel fine tune? Is there any adjustment for the overall travel? It seems I'm too low for the top of the record stack (pulling 1 and 24 together) and to high at the bottom of the stack (pulling 12 & 13 together). Thanks
Greetings, PC. There is a brass bushing installed on a pin that follows a passage in the rear of the heart-shaped selector cam (you will probably need a mirror to see it). When it gets badly worn, the arm that raises and lowers the "monkey on a stick" (it has the tab that fits into the rear of the record tray and is not aligning properly in your mechanism) doesn't move as far up or down as it should. You probably need to replace the bushing. Good luck.
Thanks so much. The problem wasn't really all that involved, but you using a mirror technique made the problem obvious. The pawl that's supposed to engage with the Star Wheel was so far out of adjustment that it wasn't even engaging. Thanks again SO MUCH for the help and the video that explained everything!!!!
You're welcome PCA. I'm glad you solved the problem and got the jukebox working properly again. Happy holidays !!
PCAGMaj7
My 1015 suddenly stoped turning the records. The arm that raises the records is not going up far enough. I can raise it by hand and the record will turn and play. Haven't been able to see why the arm isn't going up higher. When I lift it, the pin engages the coil spring and t all turns and plays. Can you clue me in on what is wrong?
It's impossible to verbally explain what's wrong in any meaningful way, Thomas. Your best bet is to closely observe the mechanism as it operates, determine the cause of the malfunction, and correct it. Good luck
Excellent video !! Thank you -- but isn't certain parts supposed to be greased and oil/lubricated? It looks nice clean -- but it looks too dry...
Glad you liked it, TB. Lubrication should be limited to the articulating surfaces. Unfortunately much of what is wrong with most old jukeboxes is that oil was simply slathered all over the mechanism in hopes that some of it would reach the proper locations. By carful observation of the mechanism in motion, you can locate the majority of lubrication sites.
@@UncleDoug I have a Wurlitzer 616A waiting to be restored -- finishing up my Seeburg 148 at the moment - keep showing your great videos !!
@@OhFU1 Will do, TB. I have always loved the early "woody" jukeboxes, and the 616 is a great example. Good luck with your restoration.
Hi Doug --- GREAT videos! Question if you don't mind: I just got an early 1015 which plays 78's. It is set on free play, and was perfect on 1 and 2. I then installed records 3 and 4. 3 played perfectly, but I got no reaction from button 4. Then when I tried 5, it cycled to 24, and then 23, 22, 21, 20 etc etc. I finally turned it off.
When I turned it back on, I got no response pressing any of the buttons.
Does it sound like a simple problem to you, or do you think I should call for service?
thanks!
Streamliner 1000 Greetings, Eric, and thanks for the kind words. Selector problems can be real tricky to resolve in an electric-select jukebox like the 1015, and may require some disassembly. If you are not well versed in the intricacies of the mechanism, you might be better off seeking professional assistance.
@@UncleDoug Hi Doug --- where are you located? I'm in Palos Verdes in SoCalifornia. Can I paypal you to help me fix the following problem: the buttons energize the selector drum and the middle metal plate moves in contact with the inner one. And I can hear the amp etc come on, but I get no movement.
Are there electric wire replacements? I just received my original 1015 and all electric wires are either frayed and or brittle.
That's typical in these old machines, Alex. I'm afraid your only recourse is to replace every faulty wire.....which is a nightmare. Good luck.
love the music so amazing
ian forster Thanks, Ian.
HI Love this video Doug Iam From Lebanon Beirut iam trying to restore wurlitizer 1015 bubler i got it all jammed not moving the motor was removed i put everything back lubricate all the mechanizem everything is running fluid but when ever i select a record it spin half a spin and directly eject the record one time it worked now its not
can you advise me where the problem?
thank you in advance
carlo baghdoyan This is a complex mechanism, Carlo, with all sorts of delicate adjustments necessary to make it work properly. I strongly suggest that you buy a 1015 repair manual from Victory Glass Co. in Des Moines, Iowa USA. It will show you, step-by-step how to repair and adjust your mechanism.
I have a model 800 it looks like the spring broke and the turntable will not spin unless i lift it higher,is there an adjustment for that?
It's virtually impossible to explain how to repair such a complex mechanism verbally. You need to buy an illustrated service manual, Sonny.
I have a question regarding my 1015. No matter what selection I make it always plays 18. And it will continue playing 18 continuesly with no regard to the machine having any plays remaining. Any ideas? Thanks. Michael
Apparently either the selector mechanism is not cancelling the solenoid pin for selection #18 or it is physically stuck on that selection. You'll have to watch it closely to determine which it is. Good luck.
Do you think the gears are fiber so that can be sacrificial in the event something gets jams? They would be a weak link that would "give" so that the rest of the mechanism be saved.
adofmsu This is a possibility, Ad, but since the fiber gear is such a nightmare to replace, you would think they would have selected a more accessible part to sacrifice. I tend to think it's because the fiber soaks up and retains lubricant, and the metal-to-fiber interface allows the mechanism to run more quietly.
+Uncle Doug.....I am a mostly retired mechanic/machinist that has rebuild many old mechanical things. I have machined several drive gears from Delrin with great results in their adaptation. It is quiet and self lubricating. While being tough, it will shear under sever loads. Would this work well as a modern replacement for the fiber gear, or would that be a slap in the face from the purist crowd? (love you stuff...thanks for sharing, Greg
Your welcome, Greg. If you could machine a Delrin gear with rather thin teeth that could withstand the torque demands of the jukebox mechanism, and be quiet and self-lubricating at a reasonable price, I think people would welcome it with open arms.
Where would I be able to procure one so as to measure the pitch of the teeth and the other relative dimensions? I enjoy the challange of the build, the marketing is not what drives what I do. As far as withstanding the torque, Delrin has proven it's durability by being the material of choice in almost all modern small drive systems.
You can order one from Victory Glass Company in Des Moines, Iowa. www.victoryglass.com/victoryframe.asp I would offer to send you one, but I don't currently have any uninstalled fiber gears. Unfortunately, they have gotten to be rather expensive, but this may make your venture more practical. You might speak with them to see if they have any interest in your Delrin concept. Perhaps they would provide a loaner gear for free (?).
Fascinating
Thanks, Eric.
Omg thats awsome!!! :O
Thanks, Fredrik :)
Question - I am restoring a Wurlitzer 1015 - It came with the wrong speaker , a blown out 15 whith a 2400 ohm feild coil. Can i continue to use this 2400 ohm feild coil as a choke or do i need to find some thing at 5400 ohms? What are my options?
You could supplement the difference between your speaker field coil and the proper resistance with a 3K Ohm 25 to 50W resistor.
sounds like a plan
Now i need to figure out the best way to get that brake disk thing on the end of the tortion spring loose . It looks a little thin for tapping with a hammer. I could see it moveing after selection in your part 2 vidio -Thanks
You're welcome
Interesting videos :-)
Music is "Earth Angel" (The Pingiuns), a nice Doo-wop !
Similar mechanic as the 1100 ?
Thanks, MCG. Yes, the record playing mechanism is quite similar to the 1100. The selector mechanism and sound system are quite different, however.
my was working perfectly but now no matter what selection you make it stops at 24 before going to that selection or if you make a selection always plays number 24. number 24 plays at the beginning of the selection you select or it will play your selection and then plays number 24. always stops at 24. any clue?
Perhaps the selection mechanism is sticking in an extreme position (top or bottom of travel) and needs some lubrication. Other than that, I am at a loss.
Hi, Doug. The power switches in my 1015 are messed up. Is there any way I can reach you for advice?
Your best bet is to buy a 1015 Service Manual on line, Sean. I no longer work on jukeboxes and the manual really covers all aspects of their operation quite well.
Thanks for the reply. I have the manual but lack the know-how. Sorry to hear you're out of the biz. Love your videos! @@UncleDoug
Thanks !! The answers are all in the manual. That's where we all learned it, Sean. Read it closely and see if it doesn't make sense.@@seancostello7840
You might be proud of me, Doug. I managed to change out a switch and got the beauty working again! It sure is a gorgeous creation, ain't it? @@UncleDoug
Excellent work, Sean. Yes, they are :)@@seancostello7840
thanks for the video helpfull ! i use it to try to find where is my trouble : it makes itself the selection radomly and do not stop !!!...i can not find why !!! even i disconect it , and begin again , if some has an idea !
You can buy a service manual from Victory Glass Co. in Des Moines, Iowa, Laurent. It shows every step of the play cycle and how to repair problems.
Hey, could you post some pictures or a video of the arm that pushes the record put, I'm building a replica with more modern tech and I'd like to mimic that motion. I'm less interested in the stuff going on under just the arm shape and motion
I have posted other jukebox videos that may demonstrate the interaction you seek, SS. Please check them out.
i am from n.c. can you give me info where i can find parts having a hard time
Contact Victory Glass Co. in Iowa. If they don't have the parts, they will probably know who does. Good luck.
Louis Jordan! How high am I? I love it.
He's one of our favorites, Johnny.
the turntable doesn't have a center-point catcher like the 1100. How did it avoid playback wobble?
.....by ensuring that the bushings that hold the turntable shaft are snug.