Five times stronger than steel: Japan's new 'wood' | Nikkei Film
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- As a part of its efforts to decarbonize, Yamaha Motor Company has started using wood-derived cellulose nanofibers (CNF) in place of some plastic parts in its watercraft. The company began selling the products in North America on Aug. 25. CNF, which the company says is five times stronger than steel, is a next-generation material developed in Japan.
Nikkei took a behind-the-scenes look at how Yamaha succeeded in bringing the CNF products to market, taking advantage of Japan's unique position as the "Land of Wood."
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There's nothing new here. Ford did similar back in the 1900s, only to be crushed by the steel moguls of the time. He was utilizing hemp fibers to make car body parts. The stuff was so strong, light, and durable that the steel industry saw a big threat to their potential market. The whole thing went into oblivion.
The people who cannot be criticised that own DuPont and some of the oil companies didn't like it, as well as those same people in the pharma industry. Hemp was a multi-industry threat and is to this day. Cotton as well.
fiberglass is another obvious composite. cellulose nanofibers though are another cup of tea.
true, but only japan has the initiative to make it happen.
you are so correct.
I think the model t steering wheel was made from soy
Back when sailing was the dominant way of traveling and trade, ppl kept repair kits which consisted of hemp seeds and pinetrees among other things to grow then have the necessary materials to continue on...
Soybeans were also used. If they would leave off the paint we could eat the used parts.😅😅
@@Glenn-F-Rice I'm unsure of what you are trying to articulate
That's really interesting, I can see how they'd use it if you had nothing else.
They should try hemp cellulose fibers
Excellent idea!
There is no HEMP PLANTANTION enough in JAPAN dude!!!
But HEMP is one of the strongest celulose fibers and the easy to obtain (if legally permitted).
The HEMP PLANT is the world must efficient vegetal growth cultivation in terms of weight/square meters mass production AND in TIME, because in sunny areas of the world HEMP can produce to the "commercial harvest" 4 to 5 crops per year!!!
And one curiosity, the historic larger producer of HEMP was the USA government during the II WW, but that time the "production" was mainly to craft ropes to the US NAVY ships all made of HEMP due this fast production characteristics mentioned ABOVE!!!
Or linen.
Hemp has been the answer for this environmental shit show we have found ourselves for decades . But due to corruption and political red tape they will drag there feet until its too little too late.
They'll stop working and order takeout and listen to Jimi Hendrix. Lots of Hendrix San!
I can't wait for my nano cellulose pie
yaaaaaaaaa-umie!
You may have had one already 😢
It's in grated Parmesan cheese read a label
It reminds me of the first digital products that were expensive and not reliable. Now they are in everything and everywhere. You have to start small and grow. Maybe this will help with less plastics. I am sure other plants could be used as well like hemp that are faster growing.
Yes hemp is one of the fast growing plants and can be utilized for severel things like cloths, plastic. And others. I still don’t understand why is not being used.
Hemp and also bamboo seem as a very good choice.
This is all a bit confusing: "five times as strong as steel" presumably means "five times as strong as the same weight of steel". But that would make it as strong as carbon fiber. Carbon fiber is around forty times as strong as the same weight as cellulose fiber by some comparisons I've seen so I'm missing something here.
Click bait exaggeration, perhaps?
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Here...nano cellulose fiber. But it can destroys ecosystem with over plantation like this :
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Why would anyone compare them by weight? If you have need to make a car door, it is the size and shape you'll look at. Wood is much, much lighter than steel at the same size.
@@CaptainSnackbeardI find your question really, really odd: weight considerations are hugely important in engineering. Not just in the totally obvious fields like aerospace but for cars, boats, bicycles, sports equipment, musical instruments, architectural materials, military equipment... anything that moves or regularly has to be lifted in fact. I'm building a carbon fiber sailing vessel myself and keeping it as lightweight as possible is critical to its success.
@@chrisgrill6302 weight is important, still secondary to form in most applications. You can't make humans smaller or larger to suit forms, and engineering is (usually) about serving humans somehow.
Presumably your boat can't be made 5x or 40x smaller / larger so you can achieve some ideal weight. For example unless you have some kind of hydrofoil thing going on, then without a long keel it doesn't matter how light you make it, it won't go as fast a because of displacement/hull speed limitations.
As to the comparison, Carbon fiber is expensive, difficult to work with, is human made, and creates waste. Wood is cheap, grows all over, is easy to work with, and is itself a carbon sink.
It's ironic that the theme of this video is a reduction of CO2 and plastic waste yet the product focussed upon is a small part for a machine which has no practical value other than for the amusement of the owner.
It’s the beginning..
Not all boaters are leisure boaters. Some fish to feed their families.
@@barthanson3043 The 'personal watercraft' featured is hardly ideal for any kind of fishing.
You’re missing the point. The new lighter and stronger material can be used on cars, aircraft and electronic devices to make them more fuel efficient. This is only the beginning, it’s just testing, basically.
@@Jin88866 You are missing my point- Yamaha are producing what is really a toy, which is adding to CO2 emissions by burning fossil fuel. Agreed, the new material has the potential for a lot of beneficial uses, I just don't think this example is one of them.
This report is 5 times longer than it needs to be.
I would like to see this content to be recycled ♻️
Lololol
MUST BE EXPENSIVE.. if its not cheapers than plastic then ........it can't help
Its a resin composite, so its plastic with cellulose fibers in it. Just like carbon fiber, impossible to recycle.
Its Rigidity is 5 times than Steel. It is lighter than Steel or Alu 16%, please confirm?! It is lighter than 25% compares to Normal Plastic!!. It can be recycled again.! But how many Recycle Times warranty?! Interesting. Good luck to everyone.🎉❤😮🤔🤗😘🌏🌎🌍🎉
The video could be improved by comparing CNF with materials of similar price. We already know that CNF is stronger than plastic, but since it's expensive, it would be helpful to compare it with other high-priced materials like carbon fiber or metal alloys. This way, we can better understand its value and how it competes with those materials in terms of performance.
Including wood fibers in plastic was known and used in the 1960s that i know personally. I suspect it was in use many years before.
Let's go Japan! 👏👏👏
I just see another type of plastic or resin but it will have a longer time in nature and wildlife.
Its stronger than magnesium alloys. Wow.
Doubtful
It's a non structural part. It's purely aesthetic. Why not remove the part entirely.
If you were introducing a new material wouldn't you do it on a non critical system so you can see how it performs in the real world?
You want mud bikes without mudguards?💩
5 x stronger than steel
20% the weight
Im sure it will be used in a structural part
Let’s take fenders off of cars, too, eh?!
That was my first thought, but it does give the material real world exposure/testing without being a critical component.
TH-cam: Saying in 20 minutes what you could have summarised in 1 minute just as easily...
"We got permission at the plant to make this report." Well, obviously. Nobody cares.
That is an interesting material. If it makes it into automotive products, it's future will be bright.
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This is more about making materials more local and affordable. While still charging the same or more. Climate change is being sideline as the cause.
And someone is being gaslighted.
Obvious use case would be body armour
Thank you for sharing this news and also thanks to these brands for investing in change. We are past awareness and now need to start and spread using materials like this.
isnt bamboo a better option
Hemp could replace "cellulose nano-fibers", plus has plastics substrates.
The big problem to use CNF on car body is just it's higher resistance to deformation, in a car crash it matters that the kinetic energy of the impact it will NOT be absorb by the car SO the slowdown impact on the passenger BODY will be MUCH HIGHER!!!
SO using the CNF body on a JETSKY make much SENSE as the driver in a accident will be ejected to the water... NO HARM DONE...
But the design of the 3D printable components can easily be made shock-absorbing.
@@danielwalther5841
I think you are proposing to make an void internal structure to make the material to better schock-absorving BUT as a rigid material it can absorb better AND remain higher resistant to deformation? Or crumble?
I don't know, but IF possible to achieve the correct balance may be a solution to SEEK...
I agree with you...
Fact: Writing "HIGH OUTPUT" on something gives it high output.
It would be better if they could use waste plastic in a product like this. The Earth will be buried in plastic waste in the future.
I thought the trashed beach at the beginning would be vacuumed up and the sticks and bamboo turned into nano-fibers and the plastic waste recycled to glue it together for more Yamaha Jet skis.
This is a complete nonsense... a minor unimportant part as an engine cover will not make any difference as long as petrol is used to power the engines...
At 10:10, I notice that the Kuril Islands are included in the map of parts of Japan that are forested. The Soviets occupied them at the end of WW2 and refused to leave. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute
Wood alcohol was used to make bakelite. I wonder if it could help this.
At some point Mercedes did biodegradable wiring in their cars, ask the owners about the issues...
So just give up because someone else got it wrong?...lol.
IMO something that lasts for generations is more environmentally friendly that something that has to be replaced often because of planned obsolescence.
@@neamtialinWhere's your documentation on this supposed occurrence?
@@neamtialin You're completely right. Our society has completely lost track of what is actually the main cause of our garbage and pollution issues: consumerism.
@@neamtialin "IMO something that lasts for generations is more environmentally friendly that something that has to be replaced often because of planned obsolescence."
Planned obsolescence really has nothing to do with the fact is something biodegradable or not in the long term.
It's just about deliberately engineering things to broke as soon as possible after the warranty period, if there is any.
For instance, one wooden chair can last literally for hundreds of years, unlike bunch of plastic made ones a lot of people use nowadays that become brittle after just one summer in the sun.
What’s the carbon footprint of making the resin?
Sounds like what rebar with cement is to concrete, cellulose NF is for polyethylene.
My headstone might say; Every solution by humans creates new problems.
To make wood celulose pulp make more polution in the process using strong chemicals ...
These clowns went and put this stuff in FOOD right away. smdh
Ha, joke's on you, It's already in your food, assuming you eat any fruits or vegetables that is.
I can argue with a 100 reasons why this is a not as big a deal as it is being made out to be. Hemp fiber is infused with epoxy resin also and is very strong. Plastics and resins are still needed in lesser amounts may be. And this decarbonization gimmick is a hoax.
It really isn't that big of a deal, but it's renewable, lighter and stronger. Japan doesn't have huge tracts of open land to grow your hemp either. Also, the decarbonization myth itself is a myth. If you were one of their consultants you'd be fired.
@@subcitizen2012 I don’t subscribe to the environmental hypocrisy. I am not saying Japan should grow hemp. The part that was being made and was glorified in the video is insignificant in its function and it won’t have any positive impact on the environment. I regard Japan very highly and was surprised to such meritocracy from such a large reputed company. Show us something truly remarkable, not something so lame that is embarrassing.
@@subcitizen2012 to be fair, hemp grows more fibre per m² soil than wood, so it is more efficient than a forest. Not to speak about the more frequent harvests.
There are different levels of strength. CNC/CNF impregnated epoxy composite will be noticeably stronger at lighter weight than hemp cloth epoxy infused composite.
Carbonize the CNC/CNF material and even more so, especially with the stiffness strength. But hemp, bamboo, and/or balsa would be a bulking material for structures that need to have very high stiffness and/or some thermal insulation, sound blocking, or the like.
@@MannIchFindKeinName So doesn't bamboo.
Is this not the same material that Ford made in 1931 using Henp olants?
We have to be creative to survive. We have no where to run to. We need more good creative minds.
We will not survive in this conditions, humans are by definition a virus.
Not new there is a women in Africa who did this 10 years ago. She made plates and utensils with it.she is still in business
Not the same thing. Crystalline cellulose is isolated, removed, and concentrated from the amorphous cellulose and lignin of the wood. It is the crystalline cellulose that has the very high strengths at low weight when combined with some kind of plastic resin.
Wood typically only contains between 35% to 50% at most, total crystalline cellulose content (bast and cotton fibers more though).
naah they should try bamboo
there is no comparison to main competitors like carbon fibre, or carbon nanotubes.
what is the strength, cost, weight differences.
I'm also very confused by this. "Five times as strong as steel" - I'm assuming for the same weight - is the same as claimed for carbon fiber. But cellulose fibers are nowhere near as strong as carbon fiber. So the whole thing sounds fishy to me and they have made a long video which totally avoids explaining what we really want to know. I daresay these cellulose fibers are plenty strong enough to make this jetski part though, I don't doubt that part.
When you carbonize CNC/CNF's, you essentially get a nature closer form or version of lab engineered/made carbon nanotubes, but in much higher bulk amount for much lower cost compared. Obviously the carbonizing process uses a fair amount of energy, but that could be done with evacuated/vacuum insulated Solar heaters in combo with direct Solar panel DC to resistive heating, basically using the direct heat of the sun + Solar PV generated electricity to carbonize the material pretty cheaply and cleanly.
So we replace plastic with…more plastic. But this time we’ve cut down a bunch of trees to mix in…
Whatever, hippie. Cry more. lol
The difference, plastic lasts hundreds of years whereas nano fiber decomposes
Great to see Yamaha innovating - hopefully the attitude will rub off on their motorcycle division as after the incredible reinvention just over ten years ago from the launch of the mt09, in the last 3 or 4 years they have been a little too cautious. How does this cellulose material compare to alloys used in bike frames, handlebars for strength and weight? Get some in the bike and maybe improve handling at the same time by introducing better controlled flexibility rather than total rigidity.
Seems the cost compares to carbon fiber is a good indication...if not stronger.
Too much environmental propaganda.
Let's get real here. Making a small part on a machine that guzzles gas is not doing a thing to decarbonize our atmosphere. This is virtue signaling and nothing more.
Using cellulose nano-fibers in high stress performance products allows the company to charge more for this new manufacturing product. This breaks the ground to increase scale and cut costs. Companies will go bankrupt if there not profitable.
If those strength to weight ratios are accurate, the stuff should have a role in aviation. That requires light, strong materials with little concern for price.
Unfortunately, the tree plantation is a monoculture. Everything is dead in that area because of it. You can see the cut down area is thriving. The area covered by trees would be dead underneath. No life for birds or other species. A mixed plantation would be better.
make parts for expensive machines, like missiles. Lighter than the metal part. Stronger.
Changing the world, one decorative engine cover at a time 🤣
Surely they could have found something a bit more useful to show off the technology than a cover you could leave off without any issues...
No wonder NHK turned off their comments section! So many know-it-all, “couch professors”.
Steel is 100% recyclable and is an isotropic material. Composites are 0% recyclable and they are an anisotropic material. Sure, maybe you can reshape it if you use a thermoplastic, but that does not help you recycle it. Thermoplastics degrade everytime you get them liquid, you cannot mix it with any of the thousands of other thermoplastic variations and you cannot mix it with any other thermoplastic composite using different added fibers (carbon, glass, etc.).
heck no. don't put that in food. 🍞 we are not cows. who knows what kind of intestinal damage cellulous would cause.
Building panels with sheets of CNF-polymer composites with aerogel cores would be cool af
Most useful aerogel materials are expensive AF. Meanwhile, CNC/CNF can be made fairly easily and cheaply at home.
Great invention but where is the electric wawerunner?
This is ridiculous. The title says new wood stronger than steel; yet the video clearly states that it is plastic infused with Cellulose Nano Fibers; so plastic is still being used. So how is this supposed to be reducing the use of plastic in the world? Along with that more wood is being used taking out the organic life the scrubs the world of CO2. This is gaslighting as usual.
Plastic containing cellulose nanofibers? So it's not 100% CNF then?
Everything that is produced in Japan is not worth a penny.Let's start at the beginning of the list:
Marble beef for an incredible price-pure deception is an ordinary meat, just a separate section of calf.
Wasabi is supposedly a hard-to-reach and expensive plant that grows only in the Japanese mountains,but in fact it is an ordinary grated ginger root.
Quality of Japanese equipment-history and user reviews show the most uneconomical,ill-conceived in operation, expensive and unreliable equipment in the world. In the USA, production is even better than CASIO, Sony, Toyota,Lexus, honda, yamaha - it all breaks down faster and is much more expensive to repair!
Sushi is a very dangerous, expensive, perishable food, the feasibility of which is very low!
Manufacturing industrial equipment is expensive and unreliable, like Fukushima, and you can go on like this for a very long time!
Any advance in this direction, is a huge 'Huzzah!' from me, and as more widgets* are made, it will get cheaper and a possibly virtuous cycle may kick in. I do have some questions. I know cellulose in trees is pretty safe, unless it falls on me, (and I can't remember if I'm to make a sound or not.), but how much safety testing has been done on nano-cellulose. It's like dealing with an entirely new material. Perhaps it will do irreparable damage to our lungs, for pure example. Also, I'm assuming, that something with, hopefully a ten year totally intact, structure retention, in a marine environment, isn't exactly biodegradable. (Hope, I'm wrong.) Recyclable? Is that kind of it? How clean is the process to make this stuff? Better than petroleum-plastic, I'd hope, as a bare minimum.
*That tiny widget, in a big piece of polluting cr*p, was embarrassing to make such a deal of, but Hey! Keep up the good work!
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I was super excited till they started talking about putting it into food. Nah bro now you just doing too much.
Keep recycled plastics away from children! I learned this the hard way.
Plastic recycling is turning into a disaster, due to a lack of control of the input materials. Many materials made from recycled plastics end up quickly flaking, deteriorating, and falling apart due to mixes of incompatible additives in the recycled materials.
I bought some "green" toys for my daughter, made from recycled plastics with wood fibers. Then I discovered that when she chewed on these toys (as kids do) the toys were just melting away in her mouth, and she was actually ingesting the plastics!
I had the same experience when my employer began using "biodegradable" plastics for our drinking cups. Turns out those cups are made of monomers with easily biodegradable bonds. Well, I discovered that my cola was melting away the plastic, so every time I ordered a cola, I was ingesting these monomers. (After my cola had set in the cup for 20 minutes or so, the top edge of the cup was very rough and chewed up by the droplets which were sprayed from the carbonation. I don't know why it only affected the edge and not the cup interior, but after this, I started bringing my own cup for drinks.)
Along those lines, I wonder what the long term effects of the cellulose will be. For instance, is this plastic/cellulose mixture susceptible to molds and fungus in a damp environment?
Then again, under the car hood, there are many liquids which are caustic to the various plastics and rubbers which cars are made from. An oil leak which gets on wires will destroy the insulation on those wires. I wonder how cellulose will affect chemical resistance.
"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
Typical Nikkei nonsense. What is the MPa of the material in question? Japanese steel makers have developed ultra high yield steels with a yield strength MPa of well over 780. Give facts instead of promoting fake claims as advertising.
Oh, look, they are trying to sell papier-mâché as something new.
Resins have terrible performance compared to metals when it comes to handling heat, most get soft between 60-120° C, then the composite loses all strength and fails. Metals have vastly superior heat handling characteristics and are easier and more economical to recycle.
This is such horse shit! They’re actually touting that 0.0001% of the watercraft was made with nano fiber?? (that wasted even more energy and burned more carbon in production.)
This is a start in the right direction, but a long way off. They are still combining plastic with the cellulose nanofibers made from trees. How can this be a solution to our plastic problem? We need to find total replacements for plastic. And what about all those trees being cut down and treated with chemicals to make paper in order to make this stuff? And what is going on with that bread? Are you guys serious about putting chemically treated CNF into our food. Please don't do that! We are already too sick from the toxic levels of ingredients in our food.
Henry ford build a car out of hemp just before they converted his factory's into war plants
How about bicycles or electric bike. If using cellulose nanofiber may apply to cars, I just hope the Japanese research Company will also come out with bicycles. I remember Panasonic bicycle.
Awesome. Not only good for the environment, but good for an island economy that lacks key resources. Now, if they hadn't put that nuclear plant in a tsunami zone. 🤦♂
🍀👍🍀😊looking into the past🪵to solve problems of the future
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We''ll see.. it will likely just get patented and squeezed for maximum profits anyways. Like is the case with so much of critical advances in scientific discovery.
How is mixing resin with cellulose particles environmentally friendly? Resin is plastic or manmade chemical. The only thing is that this material can be melted and reused several times. Otherwise its just a manmade chemical mixed with some cellulose impurities and advertised as having mystical properties which are not verified by independent authorities. Looks to be false advertising
There is a lot of bragging about a stupid and useless engine cover. Now, when you can make cars, boats, planes, and buildings out of the stuff, then you can start expecting a pat on the back. Y'all need a little common sense in your lives.
Japan vendor machine is producing lots of waste and over packaging of small small things that qre unnecessary... Equate it with the video #onlysmartcanfigureout
The problem with recycling is not whether the product is based from plastic, as pretty much all plastics can be recycles. The issue is humans. We are simply too lazy and most don't bring back the bottles, rather we throw it away in nature. Cellulose fibers are not gonna change that. Also not totally sure if you should add nano fibers too food already as we know very little about it long term usages. We only recently find out about micro plastics and the issues it creates in animals and humans. Who is too say that the same doesn't happen in 50 years with these fibers?
But it is an interesting product.
Wasteful overconsumption especially of unnecessary polluting toys like that watercraft is the real problem. Making them slightly less unsustainable is basically just green washing.
Yeah, I will believe people talking about CO2 emissions and showing a cooling tower pushing out steam.
How is artificial resin not even more dangerous than plastics?
What a load of green washing rubbish. Of course adding fillers to plastic will make it lighter and increase tensile strength. All that's new here is which filler is used. Hardly going to make any significant impact on carbon capture or plastic waste. This is just another different plastic that won't be possible to recycle with all the other plastics.
Not impress. Cutting down trees. Furthermore one acre of hemp grows faster produce more, comparably. Sure hope Japan does not continue cutting natural resource like the rest of use. There are so many other solution. Yamaha you can do better. Kudos to Jim.
You Japanese go innovate and invent, and the thieves your neighbours next to you will mass produce these products and sell them cheaper and in much worse quality. We live in an unfair world.
That’s great! World co2 emissions solved in one fell swoop 😂 What’s the co2 emissions of this ‘personal water vehicle’. 🎉 45 grams of material?
5:27 See what they did? Double dipping on the numbers.
“5x stronger than steel AND 1/5 the weight.”
Click bait
If this promising material is lighter yet 5 times stronger than steel, why isn't the entire car made of it? Especially if it were an EV.
But Nano Material should never be intentionally added to any food!
doubt it do any help in deplastic though. real deplastic will means the world doesn't need to manufacture & use from plastic bag to anything that right now is using plastic to make it and if a suitable material can be found without harming the environment & practically use for anything then deplastic will happen & don't forget cost wise too
The decarbonization ideology is so primitive ...
Do nanoparticles have a environmental danger? I know they are small enough to pass through the body's filters.
Interesting advance but why horrible jetskiis? Bringing noise and confusion to once serene nature.
Good to see progress in the plastic world
you don't protect the environment that way because with your logic existing wooden furniture industries are also protecting the environment lol
but the US and Europe are cutting emissions so how are they going to triple and who is responsible? why aren't they cutting emissions?
Are we supposed to care about an engine cover for a product that sells less than 10,000 units per year? Another slow news day in Japan
"decarbonization" by adding an expensive wood based part into a petrol engine? What an imbecility!
If it is cellos Nano fibers you are looking for why not look into hemp? much shorter growth cycle, 6 months.
It can start for niche market like aircraft.
coton is natural pure cellulose fibers, so they create coton by purifying woodfibers at hight energy cost ?
This is an lie, plastic products are 5 times lesser environment friendly then paper for example, im educated in Eco design
So I guess it is about the process to extract the nano fibers instead of specific types of trees that it has to be extracted from, they never mentioned a specific type of tree anyway.
Cellulose nano particles sold as an environmental friendly material 😅 applied to an environment destroying machine 😂