Tales of Zestiness
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Tales of Arise, no wait wrong one. Tales of Berseria! no wait wrong again. ah well its the game that has Evangelion official dlc as outfits, yep they are official, i cant believe it too, its crazy huh
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Tales of Zesteria actually has an anime, which actually caters to Alisha's involvement and delves further into the story and explains the lore more. I'd definitely look into it if you want a accurate take of the game.
"Stuck a rose in her eye" DID SOMEONE SAY DRAKENGARD?
Dang you must hate her.
I got the reference xD
I feel like Alisha is just a tutorial character but it’s still really bad to get rid her when they show her so prominently in the first part like why give her artes when you’ll lose her later
that's even worse when you think about it. unlike Zaveid, she has her own unique moveset not copy-pasted from another party member
*coughs in Aerith*
@@Evnyofdeath at least you played with aerith for most of ff7. You play enough with her.
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Best comment of the year. ^_^
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@@MrWabaki I salute you, sir. I thought I was the only one who felt the same. And since some gamers who already hated Zestiria would flock to these sites like flies, I hesitate to comment. But I spoke with some who were actually sold on this and asked me to shut up and accept this as a validation of what they already agree with.
Shepherds cause more problems in Zestiria and Berseria than the Lord of Calamity does
Both named lords of calamity, velvet and heldalf, were created by shepherds.
At least we got Edna out of this. Could be worse.
Edna is the saving grace of this. Alisha is nice too but alas, she was sidelined & loss a lot of screentime & development w/ the cast.
Same. Exact. Though. And the music is also good.
Call her what you want, but Lailah is life.
Edna is cool too tho.
3 positives from this game: first is Edna, second is the soundtrack (don't tell me nobody liked Rising Up), and third is that this gave us Berseria. and i guess a 4th positive is that the anime is better.
@@apukami3643 you got music taste dude
On one hand, the game has Alicia and Rose. On the other hand, it doesn't have Magilou...
Tough call.
Zestiria had a few things I liked, and a lot of things I didn't care for.
Extortion-rate charges for fast travel until into the late-game, when you could have actually afforded them, is one of the most troll developer ideas I've ever experienced implemented.
I hate the water dungeon, but love the earth and wind ones.
Baller dungeon/ segment themes.
Story doesn't actually happen until 1/3 in. Before is painfully dull and latter is straightforward to the point of being boring.
Combat can actually be fun if you find a character you enjoy playing as.
Armatization was broken, but that made it fun.
I kind of liked improving weapons to keep them relevant, but it could get grindy.
The game has an odd penchant for removing playable characters to replace with same-slot fillers.
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Has Edna, so 10/10.
As a Tales veteran myself, I find Zestiria great. Yeah, the story wasn't wow, but I enjoyed it for what it is. But the music, characters, sidequests/world-building, exploration and combat were wonderful to me.
Glad you still have it a shot and enter Tales series with it. Berseria is also my absolute favorite Tales and game of all time. Other Tales favorites are Destiny, Eternia, Abyss and Xillia 2.
I haven't played either yet so I totally confused Berseria and Zesteria.
Glad you liked some points about Zestiria. Although I didn't enjoy Berseria like I did Zestiria and most of my friends had the same experience as mine, I won't argue about something that's not even a matter of logic but preference. Preferences are personal so subjectivity can't be avoided, but tbh, this gaming review we're reacting to sounds more like a RANT from a drunk guy who can't get over a nasty break-up.
Zesty isn't perfect... no game is... but even the clunkiest game in the universe has some good points if you somehow like it and grew up with it. This rant just repeats everything that's been said about Zesty and after 5 years? I wonder what the REAL motive is. I smell something FISHY. And it's NOT EVEN MIKLEO. I heard a lot of bad things about the sponsor of this discussion... and it's sad because I've been in other fan sites and and reviewers who talk like this get to be called TROLLS.
For example, if you hated Cavill and said something this toxic about him in a Brandon Routh or Tom Welling fan site or any other Superman fandom site you'd get called out as weird and TOXIC CANCER. Only gaming sites tolerate this kind of "review" that sounds worse than a drunk man's fart telling us what stuff he binged on that made him smell so much. And it's definitely NOT Zestiria. ^_^
@@turquoisemoon3654 is it just me or did zesteria have the bigger budget?
@@buttertoast1146 Zestiria had the biggest budget among Tales games. It was supposed to introduce the other Tales games to the West, which Vesperia and the earlier games were supposed to do. The music alone was more costly as they hired major bands and musicians to interpret the songs while the VAs for the anime and the game had to be the same talents who could work on the project on a long-term basis. They had to hire more than twice the usual number and had to coordinate with former character designers for the other Tales games to work on the character designs of the MCs (which also belies the rumor that the game was unfinished or was rushed). it took four years to complete the game prior to its release. It was supposed to be released in 2014 but they took more time so the date was pushed to 2015...
@@turquoisemoon3654 it definitely had good music, I like the game tbh I can feel they actually tried so good enough for me
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Nah that game sucks
I have no intention of playing another rpg-mobile game, but I downloaded it for Ramzaes' sake. Mobile games sure have come a long way.
I mean jesus, the thing is bigger than most 3DS games.
@@dontlikesand1955 riiiiiiiight...
You can run freely in combat, you just have to activate a skill to do it and hold a button whenever you want to. Also Sorey has a goal, and it's ironically similar to Artorius's goal with the whole Innominat sacrifice. He's just less radical about it.
(Also, complaining about the delivery of some lines is more of a complaint about the dub. It's fine in japanese.)
thank you its been a bit since i played it myself but i was sure you could move freely in combat.
#RipMason
I only just recently played berseria and finished so it made me sad hearing about what happened to eizen
Imagine swapping the order and playing the whole game of berseria knowing it.
@@belldrop7365 playing berseria first before zestiria is Magical
I played Berseria first then after finishing for more than 120 hours game time, I read further stories related to Velvet and found out what happened to Eizen. I mean, man Eizen is like one of the best, knowing his doom kinda made me not play zestiria. I will leave Berseria ending as is. Haha
HERE WE GO BABIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! Tales of Zestiria Review
I played Zestiria first and I loved it. Edna and Lilah are just so adorable. Also loved the idea of armortization even though it was pretty broken. Berseria is still much better in pretty much every way.
Uhhh negative. I can’t get over had lifeless the environments are in berseria. It is very distracting.
Still think Armatizing was way less dumb than the therion drive where its possible to get to 1hp and not die. Armatizing was interesting as you had to know the enemies weakness and then select your seraphs accordingly, therion drive is just constant screaming and not having to worry about type advantages really.
Also the use of Seraphic Artes & new Hidden Artes made it seem as the armatus isnt just some normal berzerker state where your moves dony change you just get more dps
Berseria is miles better. Character wise and gameplay wise.
Exalted yet I could complete Zestiria and berseria I fall asleep playing
@@omensoffate different strokes for different folks
RamZaes: " you can only move forwards or backwards or dodge to the side"
Me: " you do know there's free run in the game right? Just Hold L2 and move with the control stick....."
*Cough* Free & Free *Cough*
Sure, but it's a terrible free run, like in Tales of Graces f. The game encourages you to do side steps and backsteps since there are mechanics in place for dodging vertical and horizontal attacks correctly.
There's an ability that swich the normal run for the free run.
When you aply it, you will free run normally and if you want do run towards or backwards from an enemy, you hold L2.
FINALLY. (sniff sniff...) someone understands that the controls aren't the problem some guys say they are. I've played Zesty at least 3x and I enjoyed every minute of the combat. Of course, I'm not an Alisha fan so maybe that's the reason I don't exaggerate/invent excuses as to why I can't enjoy the game.
The problem with Zesteria is that in many ways his oversimplification is the story. 90% of JRPGs follow the same stock plotline which Zesteria follows to a T. A young male lives in an idyllic life in his hometown until one day an evil villian strikes his town pushing him to leave home and confront this evil to save the world. Along the way, he encounters a variety of quirky characters who join him on his quest as he works hard to help all of humanity out along the way. While this stock plotline does find itself various deviations, it almost always will follow this plot style. There's nothing inheriently wrong with this archetype but when you use the achetype in and of itself it tends to create a simplier story that is often of poorer quality than what it could have been. JRPGs designed for more younger audiences tend to get away from this problem more easily because it feels more natural for kids (who typically have a clear moral perspective) to enjoy and comprehend the plot. For more adult/teen content, however, most people look for more meat in their stories. We want morality that doesn't showcase a clear good or bad all the time. We want that rich complex moral system that exists in reality where some actions are morally ambigious and challengable or debatable.
Tales of Zesteria baited a lot of people with that rich complex moral system. At the start of the game, malevolence is a natural product of human wickedness or wrong actions (akin to the Japanese concept of kegare). However, it is treated as natural which is an important concept. You can purify or cleanse yourself of this wickedness with little ill effect. Your contamination doesn't automatically turn you into a demon or make your a monster. Humans can be saved or sanctified of their evil/corruption. This is an Eastern representation of the good-evil moral spectrum. In Eastern traditions, there is a path to cleansing the system to save one self from corruption. There is always a way back rather than being trapped in the path of evil. This allows the moral system to be more grey as people can always make ammends and restore balance in oneself spiritually as opposed to being morally bankrupt and beyond hope. The Western tradition takes a clear good or evil approach without much grey moral ground. If you are a demon, you must die. If you did an improper action, you must be punished. We very much value this idea that actions are permenant marks on one's soul and concept. Therefore, you can never be saved and there is a point of no return for humanity. This two traditions are pretty difficult to work in conjuction as a result. It's difficult to justify that there is a definitive point of no return in a system that can purify one self of sin. Conversely, in a system that believes there is no redemption, the only option is death (which in the Eastern tradition is in of itself also an incorrect action).
Tales of Zesteria tries and fails to merge these two concepts into one game and fails miserably. The second Rose enters the scene the entire morality of the story shifts around Rose. Rose can't produce malevolence so any decision she makes is the story's "Objective, clear definitive answer" to any moral quandry. After all, Rose can't be wrong or she'll produce malevolence. And even if it's because of some inane idea that you have to 'believe your actions are right' then that doesn't explain why Sorey and Rose are both the only two people who believe their actions are always right. So then, every single person in the world doesn't believe remotely in their decisions and thus is constantly violating their own principles and ideas? Rose has never once questioned that maybe she killed an innocent person or a victim of circumstance that didn't completely deserve it (cough Cardinal Forton cough cough)? Human belief in oneself is an extremely vague way of trying to explain the morality system and doesn't work on paper when even Alicia has some minor malevolence (otherwise the characters would note she was pure as snow). Instead, the game seems to imply that Rose and her viewpoint is the moral right of the world so therefore we should agree with all her actions and never question they are wrong. In turn, the main characters can never be questioned or be allowed to question their actions. Why doesn't Sorey show some shock and horror that he almost killed someone? Why isn't there an arc of Sorey coming to grips with the idea that he's going to need to spill blood (they barely do this in game with him just suddenly gaining the willpower to do it right in the final areas of the game)? It comes across as simple once you realize that the game was originally showing promise of this moral ambiguity and questioning one's actions. However, Sorey never doubts himself enough and for long enough of a period to bring this subject to life. Conversely, we're never allowed to consider the remote possibility that some hellions contain humanity still. Since the only option for killing the hellions who conviently are beyond purification, that essentially says all hellions are pure evil and must be destroyed. Meanwhile, the side stories reinforce this idea of a definitive good vs. evil narrative that frustratingly simplifies and hinders the story going beyond what it entails to deliever on its own promises. Imagine a story where an idealistic youth is forced to confront the moral ambiguity of his new role in society and juggling with the idea of what is right and wrong. For many people, that sounds far more entertaining, enriching, and complex. That's what Zesteria promised and failed to deliever hence why Berseria was made to rectify that issue. It is also why a lot of us call Zesteria's plot simple because ultimately it is simple. Most of the complicated parts are just not compelling when the narrative has no moral complexity to back it up (what happened to the Lord of Calamity is morally complex to an extent but then essentially becomes a story of evil man getting punished out of revenge but Sorey never asks himself if that is what he could become. He never questions how far his morals will last before he becomes just like all the others). As a result, it just comes across as another JRPG with a simple moral story that doesn't feel as compelling because of the poor delievery to a plot that could have done so much more.
Go Shiina - That’s why the music rocks, they do some awesome work with the instrumentals. I wonder if you’ve seen the TV series that kludges the two stories together and rewrites the Zestiria Ending? It’s amazing and really adds needed depth.
Zestiria has problems, mostly plot-related.. but damn do I love the music. Plus I do think playing it makes Berseria quite a bit better in some areas.
@@thishandleistacken That's a tough one. I played Zesty first then Berseria. You can do the reverse tho
@@MrWanton16 i did berseria then zestria, it actually made zesteria a lot better in a sense because focus shifted from the main plot onto world building, altho post aleshia is awful, like wtf
As much as you like the silly accessory customization you can do in this game, it's a surprise you can play it to the end without ever changing it up again.
As a sucker for customization, I still keep changing appearances of characters mid game. Is why I hate the whole "just cosmetics" argument on monetization.
*[MASSIVE HAT]*
This is canon now. DON’T @ ME!
No step on SNEK!🐍🇺🇸🇭🇰
This is definetly one of the weaker entries, although I'm in the minority of people that don't think this game is hot garbage. I will say that it made me appreciate Berseria on pretty deep level when it was released. When I saw how everything wrapped up at the end and learned about one of the last connecting factors though, it really made me wish that Zestiria did better. Berseria and Hearts are my two favorite games in the series.
The writers got to put a lot of the things they wanted to do in Zestiria into Berseria so that works out.
Heck they were nearly denied the chance to have Velvet get revenge but they were pretty adamant on it and stayed steadfast in her getting her revenge till the end. Even with the Spoilers giving her other motivations.
@@BlackfangDragon True. You could just tell in certain areas that their were things they wanted to do in Zestiria.
Couldn’t agree more, seriously.
Y’all this is a long read, but pls read it all, I seriously wish more people could realize what I’m about to say about this game.
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGHHH,* This game had so much potential, it could’ve been sooo much better. The story was a really good one but the execution, depiction, and character development wasn’t strong, there was’t huge impact, so it totally undermined the grandiose feeling it should’ve had ( specifically the grandiose feeling that it did have in its anime that was later released.) The scenes, action, and gameplay in the game were also just… not good. At all, precisely the action. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate this game and really liked it, even though it often got a bit boring. I just appreciate it for what it was made to be, it’s actually one of my favorite games cuz I saw beneath all its flaws. That’s really the only reason I can still love the game. If u need an example, just look at the anime and how visually and stunning it looked when it came out. It was EVRYTHING I wanted the game to be. I definitely feel like the game was missing the *GORGEOUSLY* animated fast paced, flashy spectacles of action from the show, which seriously made the characters and seraphim seem MUCH more capable and unique. The storytelling and lore in the show was wonderfully done. And for the bit of character development that the game tried to pull off, the show did SO MUCH better. a few examples are Edna and her brother and sorey’s fight with him, Mikleo and Sorey’s friendship (was really wholesome in the show) Rose’s determination and honor as an assassin (also has a much more serious tone in the show), Alisha’s role as the princess of Hyland and the things she’s seen about the world that she wishes she could change. And OH GOD, HOW COULD I FORGET- The show does an AMAZING job of depicting the conflict that the balance of their world is rapidly becoming increasingly fragile, and may crumble all together at any moment if the malevolence isn’t suppressed to tip the scales. The lore of the world was really well done through the storytelling. I mean, just watch the first episode of season 1. It had me going sheesh, I didn’t know the malevolence was THIS much of a threat…If you know, you know. If you’ve watched episode one, Need I say more??? (No really, if u haven’t watched it, go watch episode 1 of season 1 and tell me it didn’t do a much better job of setting the tone than the game, I wanna see what u guys think, even more so if you’ve played the game. I need someone to tell I’m not the only one disappointed after seeing the show and seeing what the game could’ve been. By all means, don’t just stop at episode 1, I don’t even think you’ll wanna stop there.) Playing the game, I already knew it was an amazing game with flaws that detrimentally overshadowed how good it was intended to be. Seeing the show just made my so upset because it was so good. Yes, because it was so good, so much better than the game. Because it validated my disappointment with the way the game turned out, and confirmed my disappointment with what was missing from it. Lastly, the world in the show looked beautiful, and so very visually stunning. It seemed fleeting and grand, and honestly a work of art in and of itself (idk if u guys can relate to that last bit, I’m an artist and very detail oriented so visual presentation and craftsmanship to me is everything, and small little details go a long way.) But like I said before, it’s one it’s still one my favorite games, and I still love it for what it could’ve been.
Oh, and the soundtrack had me in awe, Go Shiina’s gotta be a genius musician, idc what anyone says. 😤 the man’s music is so good, I instantly know it’s him whenever I hear it any show or game. (Def got me hyped while watching demon slayer and playing code vein.)
This game definitely needs a remake but considered how badly it was received by the audience *sigh…* I can only hope. Seeing Tales of Arise made me want a remake sooo bad. It has the action, the story, the visual representation is very satisfactory and visually pleasing. And the serious tones and character development seem to come across pretty well too.Tales of Zestiria done like that, while putting in all the aspects and elements that I loved from the anime would seriously put my mind at ease. It still keeps nagging at me how much potential Zestiria’s game had that wasn’t fleshed out.
Sheesh, I didn’t know I needed to get that off my chest so bad. Really, thanks for listening if you made it this far. Don’t forget to see episode of season 1 of Tales of Zestiria if u haven’t seen it, and by all means finish the anime, it was really good, and the animation was *STUNNING.* If you like the animation for Demon Slayer, you’ll *LOVE* the animation in Tales of Zestiria’s anime, I guarantee it.
Correction, you can move in circles in this game. It just workes like classic tales games where you have to hold a button to do so.
Really like that stock-tales music in the background
God damn it ram why must you make my buy all these damn games 😭
I played this game in 2019 so i realised that Sorey is Voiced by Akechi. Did yall not notice that?
Oh shit I hear now lmao
2:17: Interesting alt outfit.
14:26: SAY WHAT?! Really o.o
5:38 Berseria was actually pretty unique by letting you move freely, there is a free run button in almost all of the 3d games but you usually move left to right or in Graces F and Zesteria forward and backward so you better get used to it
Tbh with how used to the forward and backward means of movement. I found Berseria a bit jarring with free movement just given to you, but it did give a lot more freedom.
Katsu Imagitian i felt the same way but it did seperate Berseria’s combat well
Umm i take it noone bothered to look at or unlock the battle rules as one of the was called Free & Free which just gives you free run and really improves the jank combat.
I guess they just made that a thing for berzeria as i thought everyone who played zestira had that on always
Adam Chu i kept it off since it was a lot harder to hit things with that mode on
@@sometwatwithtoomuchfreetim3842 i get that but it made temple encounters so much easier as you could unjam the camera by moving
How did you go through this whole video without mentioning the weapon upgrading system? Just damn I can not wrap my head around it.
Proud of you ramzaes for getting sponsored like this
RamZaes, try tales of vesperia
Looks great! I hope that you will cover Valkyria Chronicles :)
As someone who is a huge tales fan, this is definitely one of the low points in the series. I mean I do love the cast, the soundtrack is phenomenal, and I really did appreciate the effort that went into the overworld. That said, the story is very weak on its own aside from a few moments, the pacing is pretty bad, and this game has one of the worst combat systems in the whole series. It’s fun but incredibly clunky and unbalanced as hell. Also screw that Iris Gem sidequest. That just screams of padding.
HI dude
Let's not forget the quality dive the series took after Vesperia and with a switch to a new dev team
Rose Belmont
Dive in quality? Ehh not really. Sure Graces wasn’t the greatest but Xillia 1 and 2 are excellent games and I would agree are both Top 5 contenders in the series. And even after that we still got Berseria after Zesty and that’s easily an excellent game. I wouldn’t say it’s a dive honestly.
@@ballindeez1738 Xillia 1 i had some fun with, but other than that, i honestly can't say I like the newer Tales games. Top 5 (in no particular order) for me would include Abyss, Vesperia, Symphonia, Phantasia and Destiny
Rose Belmont Top 5 for me would be
1: Xillia 2
2: Abyss
3: Berseria
4: Vesperia
5: Xillia
2020: RamZaes going back to Zesteria, instead of going forward to Abyss(
Abyss fav game of the series
Good review. I can't see you liking Vesperia that much since it has the similar issues as Zesteria in regards to a lack of a real driving force to the plot. I'd suggest moving onto Abyss next since it's a good start to the Team Symphonia style of games and personally stands alongside Berseria as a top tier HRPG, mostly in regards to story.
*Gasp* RamZaes, one more time! More Tales of games!
I decided to play Tales fo Zestiria right after finishing the anime when it was airing (around 2017?). But didn't get too far into the game. Then fast forward to 2019, I picked up Tales of Berseria. And loved every minute of it, which made me want to go back to Tales of Zestiria, to see if they already had an idea of what they wanted to do with Berseria back when they released Zestiria. I really liked the whole deal with Aizen and Zavied a lot more because of Berseria, so when it actually came time for "you know what" in Zestiria, it actually had some weight behind it.
Yeah, while I'm among the minority that loved Zestiria when it first came out, the games really do compliment each other. (Zestiria gets more of the improvements) they're meant to be experienced together and not alone in my opinion, but of course a lot of people would actively put down the idea of playing Zestiria.
Play Graces f and you'll have a lot more appreciation for what the series used to be.
I fucking love Graces F. Xillia 1-2 is good too.
Played symphonia as my first ever tales games and it's what got me into the series then I played all the ones released on gamecube/PlayStation unfortunely missed vesperia until it's remaster but by far berseria has my favorite combat and probably my second favorite story with zesteria well its down near the bottom of my list
My top 3 being
Tales of the abyss
Tales of berseria
Tales of symphonia
Wha-Where has my edge and angst have gone? Velvet? I kinda need your expertise here...
*_VELVET!_*
Today I just brought two tales games i can't wait to dig in
@1:50 to skip the Raid Wallet Legends ad
Glad you like the series. From the ones at Steam I Strongly recommend Vesperia and if want customization too you can try Xillia 1/2 although thats ps3 exc.
I had a lot of fun with this game but I’m surprised you didn’t bring up its biggest flaw: the equipment system
Yes, that system was more complicated than it had to be. And every time you want to upgrade you lost the normin buff you got when you meet them. Hopefully Tales of Arise has a better system for that. Or not have it at all.
@@lukeamparo6586 The equipment system is pretty easy,just fuse something with something else to get more useful stuff and if those strange shapes align in the corner that is a plus and just equip normin buffs before the final boss.
Capone Ardelean I’m glad you found it easy. But those buffs were weird especially when you get a better weapon with no upgrades and it’s a different type/name
@@lukeamparo6586 That is known as debuff/buff dagger vs sharpened sword.
@@lukeamparo6586 thats because in zest new does not equal better which is the reason why you have the freedom to customize your gears to fit your needs not because you got something new.
I honestly didn't hate Tales of Zesteria. I thought the characters were fun, and the side stories were interesting.
Best Tales game (in my opinion) has to be Tales Of The Abyss.
As you shouldn't most people including the youtuber here love to forget certain points in Zestiria which actually make many of the characters choices better, which is the actual reason as to why Sorey becomes the Shepherd. He said that the MC didn't have a strong reason but that's nothing but bullshit. The mere existence of Malevolence is a strong reason for anyone to join the fight, moreover Sorey lived with Seraph, he was raised by them and Malevolence is pretty much Kryptonite to them. Exploring ruins is nothing but the MCs hobby, not his driving force. All I could see here was how biased people are when it comes to Zestiria.
@@bloody4558 I think it may have really stirred up with the whole switching Alisha for Rose.
@@bloody4558 Well, if we compare one protagonist who is bloody hell bent on avenging her little brother and would just do literally anything to fulfill it (but with a taste of humanity in her) to the protagonist who joined the fight because there is this big bad trying to destroy the world..... it just doesn't compare. If I were to compare Sorey with past protagonist then he would be.... somewhere around Caius, Ruka, or Cor/Shing?
Zestiria's best casts are the Seraphim hands down, the human side were..... meh. Rose doesn't has half the spunk of Magilou unfortunately. Alisha isn't even there albeit she would make something like Chloe from Legendia. Zestiria needed more backstabbing honestly, would be nice to have Alisha backstab Sorey for a change.
The problem with the certain points are that.... it was a bit too late to even start talking about it. When it gets down to it, the story seems to want to salvage itself in similar way with Tales of Hearts and it was.... a good try. The problem is that a lot of player might already lost whatever interest they have with the story so it was a bit too late to salvage things. Personally, when I reached that point it was just such a drag that my mind only wanted to hurry up and finish the damn game so I can say goodbye to it. The music is good though albeit White Light isn't exactly my cup of tea.
Played zestiria first as berseria was not out at that point and loved it, i guess im just easy to please as i dont think the story is the most important part of any game. Its important yea but not the most important thing
Don't worry, Zesty's story is pleasant enough and it got good reviews even in Japan when it came out. Some of them even gave Zestiria awards for being the best game of the season... It also ranked 8th best game in Europe outdoing any other JRPG title. Most reviews like this sweep those under the rug and give people the impression that they're alone in liking the game. Zestiria is also the highest selling game so far among Tales. So it's gotta be good for a lot of people to be buying and playing it despite the abusive rant and hate sh*t in many game sites.
*for some reason I want to rewatch Evangelion*
Five second fights, remember those words, once you’re done watching, ALL OF IT including the movies you’ll understand. Also don’t DO NOT skip the theme.
@@rainy4902 skipping the opening is a sin
Don't think anyone's said it, but did you know there's a bad end?
During parts of the "get strong" mission lionface will show up and if you beat him it goes to an anime cutscene of the party in a cabin during a storm looking pretty grim. Then what I think is a dragon looms over the cabin and it goes to white
Yeah it's corrupted Maotelus since they didn't kill Heldalf the right way and apparently is implied they die there.
Oooh
Had to look up the scene before posting the comment because too long since I played to remember exactly. But didn't make that connection ever
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I played this game after I played Berseria and still enjoyed it.
Me too. I enjoyed it and a lot of people I know personally did. Too bad they won't come here to comment... the trolls and haters turned them off.
If you're planning on continuing with the series I'd suggest playing Tales of vesperia next (unless you've already done so), I feel like if it blended the lighthearted and darker elements well together. Yuri was one of my favorite Protagonists, I liked how he could be chill and laid back one moment but willing to kill the next without it feeling forced.
The city chatter is why I'm playing this first before I can imagine the "nope"s in beseria lol
I'm actually playing ToZ right now. Gotta remember to come back here and watch the video after I beat it (don't wanna get the story spoiled).
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I stopped gaming during the ps3 generation and this game is what brought me back. I liked it a lot at first but not asmuch after playing other games in the series.
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I actually recommend Tales of Xillia, though it's only on the PS3. While I haven't played Berseria, I really enjoyed Xillia, it took me by surprise. I thought it was going to be a boiler plate JRPG and at first that is how it presents it self, but about 25% through it really surprised me with a lot of interesting plot twists and concepts. It's definitely one of the better Tales games.
T-Wrecks the Nerdasaur Xillia was hard for me because I legit liked the villains a thousand times better than the protagonists.
Oh man, I actually found your channel through the firs Zestiria video. Too bad it's gone now :
On to Vesperia then. Enjoy the ride.
16:09 Hearing this track in your video feels so surreal to me, but I'm not complaining.
I'm a long time Tales fan and while I didn't hate this game, it was a bit of a disappointment. And here's the kicker; I almost skipped Berseria because of this. I saw it was set in the same universe, assumed it was just Zestiria - Shadow the Hedgehod and went, "meh". It took years for the good whispers to reach my ears, and I finally played Berseria just last year. I loved it. I loved Velvet. And that's my story, thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Me, an Abyss favor, over here sighing
A lot of issues with the line delivery are helped by the Japanese dub, you can definitely tell the English team got either lackluster tools or no sound mixing to help with the pacing of the original cutscenes. I wasn't aware LK is in the dub as a result, always happy to hear familiar voices getting gigs in major game releases.
Loved this game so much :D Lailah and Edna were so much fun :D Tho I wish more questions were actually answered, the story is overall pretty good but it felt unfinished.
14:15 OH. MY. GOD.
This felt less like a review and more like an abridged recap of the game's plot
100% agree with you on Rose tho
Will you be doing some other tales game? You will love Xillia 1,2 and graces f has the best combat
All Tales of games are good tbh, I watched/played almost all of them, but zesteria was the first one were I noped out XD The charm of the games are their story and they effed it up. My fav are probably Xillia 1 ( Xillia 2 is like very long meh DLC ) Symphonia and Vesperia.
No Way?! You did a video on Zestiria? Why did this never appear in my sub box?!
You CAN move freely in battle by holding down L1 and after 5 hours or so you get an ability that lets you always move freely without holding L1. Just to clarify this.
I miss the old tales of zestines "review"
I mean, yeah Rising Up is definitely a great piece of music. Still don't want to replay Zestiria when I can go for a Platinum on Berseria though.
I hear that Forbidden Memories music again man, when are you reviewing that?!
I just finished this game a week ago what the hell is this timing who are you
Y'know, things might have turned out massively different in this timeline. At the time of Berseria, Lailah and her sword were in the lake between Taliesin and Aball (Velvet's hometown).
Arthur would have come from Taliesin to reach Aball, so imagine if he'd found Lailah and Siegfried's sword. He can see the true appearances of the demons in the opening cutscene, which means he could also see Malaks like Lailah. Just being able to see and talk to her was what convinced Lailah that Sorey was worthy of the sword, so Arthur easily fits that bill as well.
So imagine if instead of discovering Inominat, Artorias discovers the Silver Flame and its ability to purge the malevolence from demons without killing them.
Just imagine. Celica might have never met Arthur, Laphicet would have died from his sickness, Velvet likely never would have become a demon, the opening probably never would have happened, etc, etc.
Also ngl I really want a new Tales game to explore the events of Lailah's past adventure with Siegfried, which would predate even Berseria.
so much for putting the ZEST back in the series. get it? cause... it's name has Zest in it... hey, don't blame me- the director made that pun during development; i'm just repeating what he said.
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You can free run during combat by holding down a button the same way you can in most tales games lol
My biggest gripe with this game I didn't hear mentioned:
You have to walk around as Sorey. In every other Tales game, you can customize and run around as any of the characters, and it's assumed the party is traveling together. I understand the choices may be limited in towns because most people can't see Seraphim, but you also can't run around as Rose after she joins the team for some unexplained reason? I initially bought Zesteria because I loved Xillia and REALLY wanted to be either Edna or Alisha in towns/the overworld... After several hours of playing and realizing that wasn't an option, I came to loathe Sorey's character design and running animation with a passion.
I think this is because of the map actions, i.e. wind dash, giant strength, silver flame etc. It's implied that only he can use those powers. And you can only use them while travelling. So it would only make sense to travel as Sorey.
@@Sheevlord That wouldn't make sense as in the water temple you have to use mikleos invisibility shield and you have rose follow you around in that dungeon (and while alisha couldn't armatize she still could have a seraphim as support)
@@adamchu2001 Well, Rose indeed breaks this logic. When you use the wind dash to go through bars, Rose just appears behind you. There isn't even a second whoosh sound, so it's not like she uses the same ability herself. I guess it can be hand waved away as an example "videogame logic"
@@Sheevlord dont get me wrong i loved zestiria i always thought that the squires could use all of the abilities of the contracted seraph it just would increase the energy demand from the Shepard and Squire.
Like Sorey had problems when he contracted Alicia probably because she couldn't pay enough resonance (sc) to use his abilities so he covered that cost himself.
And by that logic Rose who has resonancr equal to Sorey himself could use techniques like the Town and Field and Armatus without problems.
RamZaes, have you heard of CrossCode? It's an indie action RPG you might like. It has a great plot, well written characters and tight combat. Plus, a lot of its elements seem to be inspired by games from the Tales Of series.
Yes, very good game, completed, but puzzles stronk
@@ncuxonam Yeah, after playing CrossCode puzzles in other RPGs seem like a joke in comparison.
Get in the reference, robot!
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My first tales of game was Xillia, which I'd say is probably one of the best tales of games
RamZaes why do you have to sell me one almost all of these games
00:28 oh no? More like oh yeah!
I played Zestiria before playing Berseria, and Vesperia before Zesteria (don't @me). But i generally liked the characters, the plot, and loved the experience going through the game, even though it felt long and sometimes I said "hey, I seriously hope Aliesha is doong okay," I liked how the plot went down, mostly. Although I DID have a problem with Aliesha being pushed to the wayside for Rose, I didn't nind Rose for the most part, even though I wished that they at least acknowledged Aliesha while Rose was in the game.
Honestly the most memorable thing about this game is that crossover that lets me take those artes and beat the tar out of a massive electric tiger with them
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I was hoping you would talk about Christopher Niosi as the wind seraphim. I was personally interested in this game because him and little kuribo are friends and collabed a lot (especially on yugioh abridged and Tome)
I very much approve of sorry in that costume
My biggest issue wasn’t even with the story, writing or characters, was how difficulty scaled and that on higher difficulties you could only keep up by grinding zones killing the same enemies repeatedly for xp and stat bonuses with the clunky combat.
Made the already poor pacing even more jarring with how much time you’d spend between advancing the plot or developing characters.
Eventually found the most enjoyable way to play the game was actually just to start on the hardest difficulty and slowly drop the difficulty setting as you progressed through the game when you eventually hit a wall of content becoming too difficult and out-scaling you because you didn’t grind.
Fought the boss on easy but it was actually still a reasonable challenge because I was a lower level than him when I reached him.
Grinding is nothing new,nowadays most people aren't used to grinding as you can just pay money for the stuff.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 I don't mind grinding in an MMO where you have different means and seemingly endless options to grind, I do mind grinding in a singleplayer story driven RPG fighting the same 2 enemies in the same zone over and over where the combat is not the shining star of the game in the first place.
@@Quotablenotables Only one way to grind,kill the same monsters over & over again,I like grinding.
I'm not normal.
I really like fighting so even if others don't really like the combat,I will always like the combat of every game I play.
I like tales of zestiria but that probably because it was the first game I played when I got a PS4. Since then I have gone back and played the others though.
Well here was my experience with System Error:
First booted it up and noticed that the opening did not have vocals which was odd considering Vesperia, Xillia, Xillia 2 and Graces F all had their opening songs fine. But I payed no mind to it and continued on. Then after a few hours in liking Alisha, game said nope good bye princess and hello thief girl......despite the fact that I believe there were still towns that gave you spear weapons but Alisha was no longer with you and SO MUCH praising for Rose which made me think that the director may have loved Rose a little too much. Afterwards, I found myself getting more and more bored with the game from the story to the characters to even Generic Ganondorf and even the gameplay, while it did get better, honestly it too bored me after a while. So then I sold my copy, heard Berseria came out on PS4, bought it along with my PS4 a few more years later and THAT became one of my favorite RPGs, especially in terms of story and my girl Velvet compared to Shinji. Long story short, I much prefer Tales of Berseria over System Error, deleting the fact that they are connected and instead take place in different universes and that opinion has not changed one bit. Although, when my friend told me about the DLC that gives Alisha a story, he told me about a scene that was ruined by something very stupid........I SO hope that it is not the catfight because if so........shudders. Anyway, great job Ram!!!!
It took so long for me to realize he has Shinkis Eva suit on
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You're actually wrong, it's a setting that can be turned off, you can move freely in battle whenever you want. I have never used that setting because it feels stupid.
As somebody who bought both Zesty & Berseria at the same time on a whim to get into the series I heard that Zesty wasn’t as good so I went through it first and while I wasn’t crazy about it I enjoyed it enough and was excited to see all the improvements since I heard Zesty is often called one of the worst in the series while Berseria one of the best. Overall I certainly appreciated Zesty and I don’t regret doing it first but yeah probably not a game I’d replay.
Was my first tales game it really got me into the series I’ve played all but vesparia,it’s on my to do list but Sorey infuriates me. It can’t just be me right? I still really like this game but Sorey is just eugghh.