As someone who was accidentally part of a cult that was labbeld as a wiccan coven, it is so so so important to be careful when joining a coven. I ignored the warning signs, the abuse and the problems that it caused. This cult actually did the hazing thing! The leaders were toxic and when I left they became very angry and shunned me.
No joke I did the same thing when I was a teen. No physical abuse but it definitely was not a coven. Makes me feel better knowing I wasn’t the only one!
One more note on the other name thing: if they are pressuring you to pick another name (or change aspects of your personality to suit them or disassociate more), that is a huge red flag. That is a cult tactic to separate you from your identity, and make you more easy to mold and manipulate. You never have to have another name or change an aspect of yourself you don’t want to!!
100% agree....huge dissociative cult tactic. If YOU chose your own name for your own purposes and keep it to yourself that is different. I subscribe to the old "names have power" so I don't share mine....but I am also solitary.
Many of us are not necessarily interested in covens, but would like to meet other spiritual individuals from diverse practices/traditions. Thanks for this information.
@@Jayden_gemini You can definitely join a coven at 15 - just as long as you watch out for the warning signs well enough. I was in a coven when I was only around 12-13 and it wasn't dangerous at all. Digital covens can definitely be a lot safer (especially for younger witches), I think, but obviously you still need to be careful. I'm pretty sure there's lots of young witches on Tumblr and such that have digital covens so that might also be a lot less dangerous!
I have one addendum: I advise people to be very cautious around leaders/teachers who forbid them to go exploring on their own, be it by having contact to practitioners outside the group or to practitioners of different spiritual or magical traditions, or by reading non-sanctioned material or, in the very worst cases, to practice on their own at all. Those teachers need to answer the question of why they are doing that and the answer needs to be better than "because I want to protect you (from what? Knowledge? Broadening my horizon?) / keep the tradition pure / etc.", as in my experience there is more often than not some sort of powerplay involved
If someone is new and wants a place to meet more people they should definitely join Hearth's discord, it's not a coven and just a community of free witches. People are amazing, you will be welcomed and respected, no one behaves like they know more than you or are better than you, they will help you to learn, you will make new friends.
As a coven leader, seeing how other covens can actually be cult-like, really scares me. Especially when baby witches or beginners in general join them and are pretty naive/susceptible. It is SO important to make sure you look for these red flags.
In case this is helpful to anyone on any sort of medications and worried about it interfering with their magickal practice; I am on SSRIs for depression and anxiety and I have found being on medication not only improves my mental health, but also my magickal practice. When I'm not on medication my own energy is too chaotic for me to connect or direct and I can't discern my own energy from that of others. I'm an intuitive empath and I find a lot of other people who identify as intuitive or empathic also are prone to anxiety and depression. I don't think medication should be sought out specifically for managing magickal energy, and that has not been my motivation either, but if you need to seek medication or any other sort of medical intervention for your personal health that choice is in alignment with your highest good and should not hinder you.
So perfectly said, Amanda. Thank you for sharing this. It is my feeling that too many believe that either they cannot practice while taking properly prescribed medication or that they will be shunned because they take medication. "...that choice is in alignment with your highest good and should not hinder you." PERFECTION! 💗
I agree, so well said. The part about being unable to discern your own energy from that of others when you’re off your meds really hit home. When I was very ill I couldn’t go outside because other people were too painful to be around. It was painful when I was alone but no where near as much. Thank you for the thought provoking insight. I hope you are doing well now, three years later!
I wish I had seen this video before i was dragged into cult dressed as a coven. it can be so scary, and traumatizing! its ripped me away from my spiritual path and for the last 3 years ive just been trying to get back on track. i learned so much misinformation, and became so out of touch with reality that i couldnt listen to anyone who told me that something was wrong or uncomfortable about the situation. Don't take these red flags lightly! almost everything she said was happening during this time. Im hoping to one day find a coven when im ready and re learn the foundations with people who are trustworthy and looking together instead of in a hierarchy. thank you for making this video Hearth, i think its so important that all practitioners are aware of these things when stepping into the spiritual world.
Thank you for this important video! In Germany there is a coven called "Die Mondtöchter" (The Moon Daughters) which is run by a man (I think he is in his 40s) and only accepts (young) women. The reason is that only women can do magic.... Who can find the mistakes? Rituals are preferably held naked, at least there is the restraint, I have also heard of bans on wearing trousers and bras, saying it is unnatural for women. I am almost certain that this is just the tip of the iceberg of what goes on in this coven.
I don't ever plan on joining a coven, but as a teacher and a mom, I truly appreciate you sharing all of this information to help keep others, especially young people, safe and informed. You're the best, Hearth!
Thank you, I was part of a witch group when I first started, so not technically a coven but the leader was so manipulative that we ended up disbanding.
Its funny how a lot of this applies to pretty much every social group. Humans repeating the same shady behavior over & over again. Good video & I love your style.
Thank you for this. I think it goes without saying, but I'mma blab anyway, that these can apply to any religious, spiritual, social, political, group; even just a clique. And I hope that more ppl other than those trying to learn about Witchcraft, especially the young ,socially inexperienced and vulnerable (or those who are all three) ppl hear you out. Also, one of the Veterinary assistants at the lovely place my fur babies get their care is a pagan witch and recently she was present when one of our dear ones was ill and passing away. It was very comforting to know she was there for him when we couldn't be and even though the whole staff was wonderful during the entire event I feel she understood more how significant he was to us. He was scared and hurting but he clung to her, unlike anyone else there, the same way he would hide in my arms when he was scared. I knew, no matter what the outcome, that he was in good hands. I wish there were more witches in medical and medical adjacent fields.
These reasons are why I'm a solitary witch. I thank you for all your videos. This 68 year old has learned so much from you. I'm forever grateful. You have a lot of wisdom in your words.
Great extensive list of red flags, every single one I have witnessed throughout my practicing life, I must say it is the main reason I am happy to be solitary as it can take time to find a group you mesh with, but yes, good ones are out there. Great video and definitely will be recommending this to my friends who are just starting out and looking for a coven.
Extremely helpful! I was raised in a xtian cult, and it can be extremely easy to fall back into those types of groups, especially now that I'm exploring my spirituality again. I'm so glad to hear more and more people warning about potential abuses of power and signs of a cult outside of the first thought most people get from media.
Thank you for going over this. I never had the desire to practice in a coven. I never thought that there would be such issues within a coven. I assumed that it would be a safe place to be. I guess you have to be careful no matter what when joining anything of this kind. Love your videos.
I'm certain that you've heard this before, but at the risk of sounding trite or cliche,,,,BRAVO......you have hit each and every nail straight on the head.....You are truly thoughtful and wiser than your years! Putting it another cliche way,....you are an old soul. And as such I acknowledge you and appreciate all the work, in the physical and spiritual that obviously you took very seriously. You speak eloquently and succinctly. Something that I feel is rare and quite beautiful. So thank you again. Blessings
Me too. I actually found this TH-cam channel after I stopped watching another quite informative channel after the fellow made it quite clear that he was not accepting of my gender. This one not only makes me feel accepted, but I've actually learnt things I've been able to put into practice. So I'm very pleased to have made the change.
There is a group local to me whose “leader”/organizer basically only sends out 101-type information, in long messages in a FB chat, or invitations for a ritual. It is making me uncomfortable that this woman thinks we’re all newbies, and then wants us to have a monthly full-moon ritual together. Is it odd that I am uncomfortable attending/participating in a ritual with absolute strangers, where I don’t know what kind of ritual is planned?
As someone who was misled into a cult hiding behind the idea of a wiccan coven a while back, I found this video will hopefully help others to avoid the mistakes I had. Another red flag is promising the impossible, which when I was in a confused state of mind, I fell for.
All these reasons you have mentioned is why I remain solitary and why many do. Thanks for posting these points as it might save lots of Newbies from bad influences and hurt. 🌸
As someone who has a history with covens, including running one, these tips are /fantastic/, and are excellent tips to help keep yourselves safe. Please, please be safe in your choices, and don't just attach yourself to something because you feel like you have to, or as if you're desperate for connection.
I always feel very in alignment with your advice. I watched this whole video even though I have been solitary for well over 20 years. I have done circles....just doesn't work for me. I just wanted to watch bc I felt that I would share your warnings. I do! Well done!
Another red flag: Animal sacrifices / animal cruelty in general. Should be self-explanatory why this is wrong, but for those who need *more* of a reason, it's very illegal.
I just want to say thank you for these videos, I’m new and I’m pretty sure I’m eclectic and you have been the most informative person I’ve found, so thank you!
You are very correct about stopping your medications being mainly in America. Also, I will share with you that I have been in Many, Many Covens and have experienced all of these things. Therefore, I've chosen to only be a Solitary Witch
Not sure if you mention this in the video or not, but anyone new should look up the “Seekers Bill of Rights” which is a nice resource to look at before joining or looking to join a coven as it gives a nice layout of things that may be asked of you that you DO NOT have to do. Know what is and is not appropriate or common and stay safe!
Thank-you so much for a very well-done video, that was very accurate, informative, and fun to watch/listen. You touched on many important points, and I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into this sharing. I was not at nervous or scared about the circumstances you shared because you have quite the grounded, wise, fun, and magical energy/personality. While watching your video I felt very empowered and encouraged to simply follow my own path and intuition. I have always had some wonderfully amazing boundaries, so when I experienced some of the red flags you talked about throughout my life, I automatically adjusted myself in the situation so that I remained very well safe within my personal space, independent, and not ever compromising of my integrity. Again, thank-you for a much needed subject about both personal and coven integrity, well done! )O(
I have tried being a part of two coven but have had to leave both because there was always that one person who was toxic and ended up ruining everything for everybody else. I finally decided solo work is the best for me.
This video helps me alot on red flags now I no what to look for in a coven and there are some things you mentioned that is new to me too which ill be doing my own research about fantastic advise hearth
im also from the philippines. do we have any wiccan in the philippines? do you have any fb community too? id like to join a coven if we have a gardnerian wiccan high priestess.
I'm also in the Philippines too. I thought I'm the only filipino who love and watch this channel. please tell me if you have any fb community for witches please invite me in if you do.
@@micomarinas2753 Unfortunately, I don't know any Wiccan communities here in our country. I only join large Facebook groups that are commonly based in the USA. But it's also important to note that I don't really seek out covens or different communities as I am a solitary witch. Good luck with finding one though! Edit: I just wanted to add the fact that I am not Wiccan. :)
@@nicholasash3612 Unfortunately, I don't know any Facebook community that is particularly active here in our country. I only join large Facebook groups that are commonly based in the USA. But it's also important to note that I don't really seek out covens or different communities as I am a solitary witch. Good luck with finding one though!
I really love this video, it is very informative. There will always be positives and negatives when it comes to covens. Like you have said there will always be those covens (cults) out there that are bad. I have been a solitary witch for many years. In my country (Australia) it is extremely difficult to find covens. Online it is extremely easy to join an online coven, but a physical covens not so much. Over here you must be invited to join a coven. When you're someone like me, who has extreme difficulties in socialising it's practically impossible to find covens. As with me I only have associates, no friends. That being said I am currently involved with an extremely small coven. I.e. myself and 1 other lady. We work together in real life. So, trying to pin down a time for meetings is extremely hard, as we are both on call. And either one of us can get called out. However, our coven feels more like a master and an apprentice. I ain't the apprentice. I didn't choose this, the other lady did. She's extremely green. If you ask me knowing her she'll be a great as either a green witch, hearth witch, kitchen witch or a crystal witch. I leanded her an extremely good book, which I hope she returns, lol. I would like to join a coven to learn from others, but not knowing anyone for me to get invited. Every country is different regarding to this subject.
I have a coven with my partner, and we tend to put our "mundane" lives first, because life is important to live and we believe that education and work comes first. It is nice to hear what you are saying, especially because we believe that covens should be wonderful. Our is literally 3 and one "apprentice" who is very new in witchcraft, so we are helping him understand his way the best we can, even helping him with research. Again, thank you for saying all of these good things - especially about being cautious about age
I'm not into witchcraft but reading or watching videos about gaslighting be it in cults or one to one relationship is always useful. It can serve on the job market, in love or to understand childhood situations.
You emanate benevolence. Thank you for this perfectly timed information. I mean that. It is perfectly timed. I think you just saved me a lot of suffering and time waste. Love you.
I agree with all but one thing. Although I do agree with age minimum, age maximum I don’t agree with. I was part of a group that there was a large age range, and we were all on the same level. It worked for us. I will note, no part of our group had anything to do with sex, though.
i feel like the only reason there would be an age maximum is that if the minimum includes minors, they wouldn’t want anybody too much older than the minors. not for any magickal reasons, but just for the safety of the minors.
I am *so* glad you talked about listening to other people in one's life who may see changes -- sometimes when we're on the inside looking out we miss big things that others on the outside looking in can see easily. Also, as someone on the opposite side of The Pond, I busted out laughing when you referenced Dennis the Menace -- I'm old enough for the original to be *my* generation! (Yikes!) I didn't realize he was that well-known "over there." :-)
this video is so FRICKIN IMPORTANT!!! These red flags sound like c*lts waiting to happen. I have heard of way too many cults where these red-flag activities were commonplace.
I don't know if this is as much of a red flag as if it's the opposite, but what if a coven wants you to invest all of your time in them, but won't let you be a real member until you've worked with them for 7 (!) years and they really want you to be invested but expect you to wait for that amount of time for being a real member? Is that normal? My closest coven (I live in Sweden tho) expected me to invest all my free time in them but said they won't initiate me for a long time because the process of being a member is about 7 years. I thought that was strange because I had expected 1 or maybe 2 years. So I decided to not join. Does anyone else think this is weird? I have not found any other coven since then and I work alone now, but that's kinda involuntary... I would like a group. Hmm.
That is definitely a red flag. Typically a formal coven will require an initiate to join them for around a year before being initiated to ensure they’re a good fit both with personality and with practice. It wouldn’t be as much of a red flag if they didn’t require you to invest so much time into them. I understand needing someone dedicated to the group, but to require so much and yet not offer membership for almost a decade, it seems like they want to get your work without offering you anything in return.
@@HearthWitch @HearthWitch yes and since I have almost 15 years of experience (although as a solitary) I thought the same thing. It felt like a red flag to me, who is not a beginner either!
Hearth, Hazing also was a part of joining a Fraternity at a University Scientology expects one to use their " doctor" instead of going to a outside physician...which goes along the lines of the Coven that restricts one from their medications & seeking outside medical assistance
A coven that has no age restrictions would be a perfect hunting ground for pedophiles, another danger from such a group. Also, in Brandy Williams's 2011 book "The Woman Magician" (Llewellyn Worldwide), she says that after she was initiated into a Traditional coven, all the men in the group started hitting on her. She also noted that the High Priestess in charge of the coven was a housewife who deferred to her husband in the everyday world. Needless to say, Ms. Williams got out of that group as quickly as she could.
Love the red sweater. I'm 1 of the 1s trying to get off his medication but not a witch so it can't be blamed on you. How ever I'm trying to be safe about it over time. I'm a solo Heathen and want to get back to nature. Off course I didn't get unhealthy over night curing way take longer. I enjoy your videos, there's always some form of enlightenment in them. Thanks for sharing with people.
If you replace "Coven" with "Grove" - this totally applies to Druid communities :-). I really enjoy your videos, Hearth. While I don't idetify as a witch, I find a lot of parallel ideas.
your choice of makeup style, is there a meaning, reason, any form of symbolism behind it that is witchcraft related? Is it purposeful? I wish I had a better way to word this. For example does wearing black on your lips mean something? You absolutely rock your look, I was just wondering if there was a deeper meaning behind the choices.
@@HearthWitch well you absolutely rock it. I’ve just always wondered if there was a reason. I got pretty involved in a coven when I was in my late teens and found out that it (that specific coven) was pretty much a joke. I’m relearning everything I thought I knew before now. Just stumbled across your channel and thought I’d ask. Looking forward to watching the rest of your videos!
Someone said I needed a cleansing first before they can mentor me n it would cost 200 n I would have to do it within 2 days or else I would feel the wrath of the gods....wtf?
Crowley was a classic narcissist and quite abusive, and I'd say that the best materials in the thelemic corpus originate from sources other than Crowley. He gave a lot of license to others to follow their own lights, though, so there are plenty of people who have arrived at thelema and made something good of it. After all, much of it is simply redressed Golden Dawn
Also you should note that if there is racism, xenophobia or any other societal red flags walk away. Norse Pagan community has some troubles with that right now. Also never take anybody's word as absolute truth. Look around for wisdom but learn to distinguish between what is common practice and what is questionable
Hii baby witch here I am wondering about deities like, can you worship 2 different ones that are from different cultures? example (Nordic and Greek) and when you pick a deity/deities is it like they chose or you chose them and do you act like their friend or like a higher up (boss exc.) I’m just learning and have mostly been focused on energy and meditation, but I have been researching about the different gods a have found a few that is really connect with. If you have answers please help. Sincerely, A baby witch
I see it as every religion being true to an extent, for example Christian ywah is a powerful god but does have a form, and that the gods listed off are just known ones
Is believing that you can only manipulate your own energy (not that of the universe or other people) a valid form of witchcraft? I've been interested and researching for about a year now, but I want to make sure I'm not appropriating or offending anyone before I start practicing. Any advice welcome, thank you in advance!
I personally believe that the separation of self from the universe to be an illusion but I don't believe that this metaphysical perspective is necessary to practice witchcraft. Your beliefs and your craft are completely valid!
Yes, learning to manipulate your own energy is absolutely valid, and even utilizing the energy around you is just fine. Just take care about exhausting yourself. When starting out it can be easy to do. I've been practicing for awhile now, and I'm still getting the hang of it🙄. At first I needed to rest for a week or two before trying again because I was biting off more than I could chew without realizing it. But really anything you do with intention as a witch is valid. You don't even have to be a spellcaster, as Hearth herself would tell you. I'm not, & have no intention to be. But I will say I think you are wise refraining from manipulating others in any way (at least without their permission & certainly not when 1st starting out), as that can have very unpredictable & unintended consequences. As you practice, you'll begin to find your path which will become tailored to your specific unique witchy self, and it will be wonderful 😊☀️
For me it is better to be a solitary witch. I have the nature, the magic, internet witches 😉 and my wife, who is also a witch. We work together. I would only join a coven with friends I know.
As someone who was accidentally part of a cult that was labbeld as a wiccan coven, it is so so so important to be careful when joining a coven. I ignored the warning signs, the abuse and the problems that it caused. This cult actually did the hazing thing! The leaders were toxic and when I left they became very angry and shunned me.
I am so glad you managed to get out, that sounds like a really bad situation to be in xx
Holy crap! So glad you got out
🥺 That can ruin a person to doing what they love. Thats horrid. I hope you were able to find a safe place to practice. 🖤🤍💜🌿🌒🌕🌘
I'm sorry for the pain you suffered. I hope you're healing and we spread this video to help anyone.
No joke I did the same thing when I was a teen. No physical abuse but it definitely was not a coven. Makes me feel better knowing I wasn’t the only one!
One more note on the other name thing: if they are pressuring you to pick another name (or change aspects of your personality to suit them or disassociate more), that is a huge red flag. That is a cult tactic to separate you from your identity, and make you more easy to mold and manipulate. You never have to have another name or change an aspect of yourself you don’t want to!!
100% agree....huge dissociative cult tactic.
If YOU chose your own name for your own purposes and keep it to yourself that is different. I subscribe to the old "names have power" so I don't share mine....but I am also solitary.
Many of us are not necessarily interested in covens, but would like to meet other spiritual individuals from diverse practices/traditions. Thanks for this information.
Yes!
I want to join a coven but I’m 15 and that would be too dangerous but I’m open to it In the future
@@Jayden_gemini You can definitely join a coven at 15 - just as long as you watch out for the warning signs well enough. I was in a coven when I was only around 12-13 and it wasn't dangerous at all. Digital covens can definitely be a lot safer (especially for younger witches), I think, but obviously you still need to be careful. I'm pretty sure there's lots of young witches on Tumblr and such that have digital covens so that might also be a lot less dangerous!
I have one addendum: I advise people to be very cautious around leaders/teachers who forbid them to go exploring on their own, be it by having contact to practitioners outside the group or to practitioners of different spiritual or magical traditions, or by reading non-sanctioned material or, in the very worst cases, to practice on their own at all. Those teachers need to answer the question of why they are doing that and the answer needs to be better than "because I want to protect you (from what? Knowledge? Broadening my horizon?) / keep the tradition pure / etc.", as in my experience there is more often than not some sort of powerplay involved
If someone is new and wants a place to meet more people they should definitely join Hearth's discord, it's not a coven and just a community of free witches. People are amazing, you will be welcomed and respected, no one behaves like they know more than you or are better than you, they will help you to learn, you will make new friends.
As a coven leader, seeing how other covens can actually be cult-like, really scares me. Especially when baby witches or beginners in general join them and are pretty naive/susceptible. It is SO important to make sure you look for these red flags.
Where do you get started? Is there a minimum to start like three people?
Althea, Scientology is like this as well
In case this is helpful to anyone on any sort of medications and worried about it interfering with their magickal practice; I am on SSRIs for depression and anxiety and I have found being on medication not only improves my mental health, but also my magickal practice. When I'm not on medication my own energy is too chaotic for me to connect or direct and I can't discern my own energy from that of others. I'm an intuitive empath and I find a lot of other people who identify as intuitive or empathic also are prone to anxiety and depression. I don't think medication should be sought out specifically for managing magickal energy, and that has not been my motivation either, but if you need to seek medication or any other sort of medical intervention for your personal health that choice is in alignment with your highest good and should not hinder you.
So perfectly said, Amanda. Thank you for sharing this. It is my feeling that too many believe that either they cannot practice while taking properly prescribed medication or that they will be shunned because they take medication. "...that choice is in alignment with your highest good and should not hinder you." PERFECTION! 💗
Whatever you believe is true!
I agree, so well said. The part about being unable to discern your own energy from that of others when you’re off your meds really hit home. When I was very ill I couldn’t go outside because other people were too painful to be around. It was painful when I was alone but no where near as much. Thank you for the thought provoking insight. I hope you are doing well now, three years later!
I wish I had seen this video before i was dragged into cult dressed as a coven. it can be so scary, and traumatizing! its ripped me away from my spiritual path and for the last 3 years ive just been trying to get back on track. i learned so much misinformation, and became so out of touch with reality that i couldnt listen to anyone who told me that something was wrong or uncomfortable about the situation. Don't take these red flags lightly! almost everything she said was happening during this time. Im hoping to one day find a coven when im ready and re learn the foundations with people who are trustworthy and looking together instead of in a hierarchy. thank you for making this video Hearth, i think its so important that all practitioners are aware of these things when stepping into the spiritual world.
Thank you for this important video!
In Germany there is a coven called "Die Mondtöchter" (The Moon Daughters) which is run by a man (I think he is in his 40s) and only accepts (young) women. The reason is that only women can do magic.... Who can find the mistakes? Rituals are preferably held naked, at least there is the restraint, I have also heard of bans on wearing trousers and bras, saying it is unnatural for women. I am almost certain that this is just the tip of the iceberg of what goes on in this coven.
I don't ever plan on joining a coven, but as a teacher and a mom, I truly appreciate you sharing all of this information to help keep others, especially young people, safe and informed. You're the best, Hearth!
Thank you, I was part of a witch group when I first started, so not technically a coven but the leader was so manipulative that we ended up disbanding.
I would just like to thank you for the time stamps in the description! I find those so helpful :)
Thank you for posting this i was recently kicked out of a toxic coven because i wasnt comfortable with the beliefs they had
Its funny how a lot of this applies to pretty much every social group.
Humans repeating the same shady behavior over & over again. Good video & I love your style.
Thank you for this. I think it goes without saying, but I'mma blab anyway, that these can apply to any religious, spiritual, social, political, group; even just a clique. And I hope that more ppl other than those trying to learn about Witchcraft, especially the young ,socially inexperienced and vulnerable (or those who are all three) ppl hear you out.
Also, one of the Veterinary assistants at the lovely place my fur babies get their care is a pagan witch and recently she was present when one of our dear ones was ill and passing away. It was very comforting to know she was there for him when we couldn't be and even though the whole staff was wonderful during the entire event I feel she understood more how significant he was to us. He was scared and hurting but he clung to her, unlike anyone else there, the same way he would hide in my arms when he was scared. I knew, no matter what the outcome, that he was in good hands. I wish there were more witches in medical and medical adjacent fields.
I love that you add the funny clips at the end 😁💜
These reasons are why I'm a solitary witch. I thank you for all your videos. This 68 year old has learned so much from you. I'm forever grateful. You have a lot of wisdom in your words.
You're eyeliner looks ✨stunning✨
I also love the pink eyelids.
I just wanted to pop in and say your outfit and makeup and hair today are AMAZING. ♡
Also, I am really loving this video already
Great extensive list of red flags, every single one I have witnessed throughout my practicing life, I must say it is the main reason I am happy to be solitary as it can take time to find a group you mesh with, but yes, good ones are out there. Great video and definitely will be recommending this to my friends who are just starting out and looking for a coven.
Good advice. Not just for covens but for any group you’re thinking about joining.
Extremely helpful! I was raised in a xtian cult, and it can be extremely easy to fall back into those types of groups, especially now that I'm exploring my spirituality again. I'm so glad to hear more and more people warning about potential abuses of power and signs of a cult outside of the first thought most people get from media.
Thank you for going over this. I never had the desire to practice in a coven. I never thought that there would be such issues within a coven. I assumed that it would be a safe place to be. I guess you have to be careful no matter what when joining anything of this kind. Love your videos.
I'm certain that you've heard this before, but at the risk of sounding trite or cliche,,,,BRAVO......you have hit each and every nail straight on the head.....You are truly thoughtful and wiser than your years! Putting it another cliche way,....you are an old soul. And as such I acknowledge you and appreciate all the work, in the physical and spiritual that obviously you took very seriously. You speak eloquently and succinctly. Something that I feel is rare and quite beautiful. So thank you again. Blessings
I’m enby and it feel so warm to know that my favourite witchy youtuber understand and support my community 💖
Me too. I actually found this TH-cam channel after I stopped watching another quite informative channel after the fellow made it quite clear that he was not accepting of my gender. This one not only makes me feel accepted, but I've actually learnt things I've been able to put into practice. So I'm very pleased to have made the change.
There is a group local to me whose “leader”/organizer basically only sends out 101-type information, in long messages in a FB chat, or invitations for a ritual. It is making me uncomfortable that this woman thinks we’re all newbies, and then wants us to have a monthly full-moon ritual together. Is it odd that I am uncomfortable attending/participating in a ritual with absolute strangers, where I don’t know what kind of ritual is planned?
Almost every rite has a goal. Usually coven members will be briefed ahead of time on what that aim is so they may concentrate on the task at hand.
As someone who was misled into a cult hiding behind the idea of a wiccan coven a while back, I found this video will hopefully help others to avoid the mistakes I had.
Another red flag is promising the impossible, which when I was in a confused state of mind, I fell for.
All these reasons you have mentioned is why I remain solitary and why many do. Thanks for posting these points as it might save lots of Newbies from bad influences and hurt. 🌸
As someone who has a history with covens, including running one, these tips are /fantastic/, and are excellent tips to help keep yourselves safe. Please, please be safe in your choices, and don't just attach yourself to something because you feel like you have to, or as if you're desperate for connection.
I always feel very in alignment with your advice. I watched this whole video even though I have been solitary for well over 20 years. I have done circles....just doesn't work for me. I just wanted to watch bc I felt that I would share your warnings. I do! Well done!
This is so informative!! I am a solitary witch but often think about joining a coven so this is incredibly helpful. Thank u
Another red flag: Animal sacrifices / animal cruelty in general. Should be self-explanatory why this is wrong, but for those who need *more* of a reason, it's very illegal.
I think it's a felony now, so praise be!
I just want to say thank you for these videos, I’m new and I’m pretty sure I’m eclectic and you have been the most informative person I’ve found, so thank you!
You are very correct about stopping your medications being mainly in America. Also, I will share with you that I have been in Many, Many Covens and have experienced all of these things. Therefore, I've chosen to only be a Solitary Witch
Not sure if you mention this in the video or not, but anyone new should look up the “Seekers Bill of Rights” which is a nice resource to look at before joining or looking to join a coven as it gives a nice layout of things that may be asked of you that you DO NOT have to do. Know what is and is not appropriate or common and stay safe!
Thank-you so much for a very well-done video, that was very accurate, informative, and fun to watch/listen. You touched on many important points, and I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into this sharing. I was not at nervous or scared about the circumstances you shared because you have quite the grounded, wise, fun, and magical energy/personality. While watching your video I felt very empowered and encouraged to simply follow my own path and intuition. I have always had some wonderfully amazing boundaries, so when I experienced some of the red flags you talked about throughout my life, I automatically adjusted myself in the situation so that I remained very well safe within my personal space, independent, and not ever compromising of my integrity. Again, thank-you for a much needed subject about both personal and coven integrity, well done! )O(
Thank you! I needed this video!
em the red eyeliner looks soooo so so good i love it!!
I have tried being a part of two coven but have had to leave both because there was always that one person who was toxic and ended up ruining everything for everybody else. I finally decided solo work is the best for me.
Thank you. Very insightful. These are reasons why I shy away from groups not just covens.
Thank you for making this video and bringing awareness so people can be safe :)
This video helps me alot on red flags now I no what to look for in a coven and there are some things you mentioned that is new to me too which ill be doing my own research about fantastic advise hearth
Thank u for making this video. I never thought about red flags in Covens but it was very insightful and informative, again thank u
Really appreciated this video, especially as a baby witch, thank you 💖
Yay, I'm early. It's 1:13AM here in the Philippines.
im also from the philippines. do we have any wiccan in the philippines? do you have any fb community too? id like to join a coven if we have a gardnerian wiccan high priestess.
I'm also in the Philippines too.
I thought I'm the only filipino who love and watch this channel.
please tell me if you have any fb community for witches please invite me in if you do.
@@micomarinas2753 Unfortunately, I don't know any Wiccan communities here in our country. I only join large Facebook groups that are commonly based in the USA.
But it's also important to note that I don't really seek out covens or different communities as I am a solitary witch. Good luck with finding one though!
Edit: I just wanted to add the fact that I am not Wiccan. :)
@@nicholasash3612 Unfortunately, I don't know any Facebook community that is particularly active here in our country. I only join large Facebook groups that are commonly based in the USA.
But it's also important to note that I don't really seek out covens or different communities as I am a solitary witch. Good luck with finding one though!
Love your channel! Thanks for this video❤
Perfect advice 👍 glad you are addressing this!!!
very helpful and fun to watch as always :) love you hearth ❤️
I really love this video, it is very informative. There will always be positives and negatives when it comes to covens. Like you have said there will always be those covens (cults) out there that are bad. I have been a solitary witch for many years. In my country (Australia) it is extremely difficult to find covens. Online it is extremely easy to join an online coven, but a physical covens not so much. Over here you must be invited to join a coven. When you're someone like me, who has extreme difficulties in socialising it's practically impossible to find covens. As with me I only have associates, no friends. That being said I am currently involved with an extremely small coven. I.e. myself and 1 other lady. We work together in real life. So, trying to pin down a time for meetings is extremely hard, as we are both on call. And either one of us can get called out. However, our coven feels more like a master and an apprentice. I ain't the apprentice. I didn't choose this, the other lady did. She's extremely green. If you ask me knowing her she'll be a great as either a green witch, hearth witch, kitchen witch or a crystal witch. I leanded her an extremely good book, which I hope she returns, lol. I would like to join a coven to learn from others, but not knowing anyone for me to get invited. Every country is different regarding to this subject.
I have a coven with my partner, and we tend to put our "mundane" lives first, because life is important to live and we believe that education and work comes first. It is nice to hear what you are saying, especially because we believe that covens should be wonderful. Our is literally 3 and one "apprentice" who is very new in witchcraft, so we are helping him understand his way the best we can, even helping him with research. Again, thank you for saying all of these good things - especially about being cautious about age
I'm not into witchcraft but reading or watching videos about gaslighting be it in cults or one to one relationship is always useful. It can serve on the job market, in love or to understand childhood situations.
this is so important thanks for making this
You emanate benevolence. Thank you for this perfectly timed information. I mean that. It is perfectly timed. I think you just saved me a lot of suffering and time waste. Love you.
Would the " It's my way or the highway" type of leader ( ritual observance) be a red flag in a Coven?
Anyone can answer
Yes it would.
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Thanks....I was wondering about it
yes!
Thank you for this. Ive been asked to meet up to form a coven next friday. And i needed to see this video.
I agree with all but one thing. Although I do agree with age minimum, age maximum I don’t agree with. I was part of a group that there was a large age range, and we were all on the same level. It worked for us. I will note, no part of our group had anything to do with sex, though.
i feel like the only reason there would be an age maximum is that if the minimum includes minors, they wouldn’t want anybody too much older than the minors. not for any magickal reasons, but just for the safety of the minors.
I am *so* glad you talked about listening to other people in one's life who may see changes -- sometimes when we're on the inside looking out we miss big things that others on the outside looking in can see easily.
Also, as someone on the opposite side of The Pond, I busted out laughing when you referenced Dennis the Menace -- I'm old enough for the original to be *my* generation! (Yikes!) I didn't realize he was that well-known "over there." :-)
Excellent information! Thank you!
Wow. So much of this was addressed in Buffy! Great job
this video is so FRICKIN IMPORTANT!!! These red flags sound like c*lts waiting to happen. I have heard of way too many cults where these red-flag activities were commonplace.
Much needed info! Thanks for the message. Blessings
Insisting on skyclad practice before initiation is a massive red flag. Good advice here.
I don't know if this is as much of a red flag as if it's the opposite, but what if a coven wants you to invest all of your time in them, but won't let you be a real member until you've worked with them for 7 (!) years and they really want you to be invested but expect you to wait for that amount of time for being a real member? Is that normal? My closest coven (I live in Sweden tho) expected me to invest all my free time in them but said they won't initiate me for a long time because the process of being a member is about 7 years. I thought that was strange because I had expected 1 or maybe 2 years. So I decided to not join. Does anyone else think this is weird?
I have not found any other coven since then and I work alone now, but that's kinda involuntary... I would like a group. Hmm.
That is definitely a red flag. Typically a formal coven will require an initiate to join them for around a year before being initiated to ensure they’re a good fit both with personality and with practice. It wouldn’t be as much of a red flag if they didn’t require you to invest so much time into them. I understand needing someone dedicated to the group, but to require so much and yet not offer membership for almost a decade, it seems like they want to get your work without offering you anything in return.
@@HearthWitch @HearthWitch yes and since I have almost 15 years of experience (although as a solitary) I thought the same thing. It felt like a red flag to me, who is not a beginner either!
@@HearthWitch like they just wanted to use me for their own gain without offering something in return
I am going to make myself some tea and watch your amazing videos 🧿
Really appreciate the pointers. This really helps.
Great video. I've never had a desire to join a coven but I enjoy these guidelines.
I love your makeup in your videos your makeup is always so cool!! Ilysm
Recommended reading on magical groups: "Prime Chaos" by Phil Hine
ooo your makeup is AMAZING holy shit
Hearth, Hazing also was a part of joining a Fraternity at a University
Scientology expects one to use their " doctor" instead of going to a outside physician...which goes along the lines of the Coven that restricts one from their medications & seeking outside medical assistance
Wise words. Thank you so much.
A coven that has no age restrictions would be a perfect hunting ground for pedophiles, another danger from such a group. Also, in Brandy Williams's 2011 book "The Woman Magician" (Llewellyn Worldwide), she says that after she was initiated into a Traditional coven, all the men in the group started hitting on her. She also noted that the High Priestess in charge of the coven was a housewife who deferred to her husband in the everyday world. Needless to say, Ms. Williams got out of that group as quickly as she could.
Love the red sweater. I'm 1 of the 1s trying to get off his medication but not a witch so it can't be blamed on you. How ever I'm trying to be safe about it over time. I'm a solo Heathen and want to get back to nature. Off course I didn't get unhealthy over night curing way take longer. I enjoy your videos, there's always some form of enlightenment in them. Thanks for sharing with people.
If you replace "Coven" with "Grove" - this totally applies to Druid communities :-). I really enjoy your videos, Hearth. While I don't idetify as a witch, I find a lot of parallel ideas.
your choice of makeup style, is there a meaning, reason, any form of symbolism behind it that is witchcraft related?
Is it purposeful?
I wish I had a better way to word this.
For example does wearing black on your lips mean something?
You absolutely rock your look, I was just wondering if there was a deeper meaning behind the choices.
No Magickal symbolism. It’s just my personal style. It’s not for everyone but it makes me happy.
@@HearthWitch well you absolutely rock it. I’ve just always wondered if there was a reason. I got pretty involved in a coven when I was in my late teens and found out that it (that specific coven) was pretty much a joke. I’m relearning everything I thought I knew before now. Just stumbled across your channel and thought I’d ask. Looking forward to watching the rest of your videos!
Your intro is stunning
Is there a coven directory? Is there anywhere where one can find a coven close to them, in their local area. Bb
Someone said I needed a cleansing first before they can mentor me n it would cost 200 n I would have to do it within 2 days or else I would feel the wrath of the gods....wtf?
Im a baby witch. Still learning everything but at some point i want to work with dietys. How can i start when im ready?
Another great video. It does make me wondering how many people will agree and then go on the praise Crowley/Thelema.
Crowley was a classic narcissist and quite abusive, and I'd say that the best materials in the thelemic corpus originate from sources other than Crowley. He gave a lot of license to others to follow their own lights, though, so there are plenty of people who have arrived at thelema and made something good of it. After all, much of it is simply redressed Golden Dawn
Also you should note that if there is racism, xenophobia or any other societal red flags walk away. Norse Pagan community has some troubles with that right now. Also never take anybody's word as absolute truth. Look around for wisdom but learn to distinguish between what is common practice and what is questionable
Ohhhh yeah, Nazis love to claim European paganism as an extension of their "western (white) culture is the bestern culture" ideology
It all seems common sense but you are right about following your intuition.
Thank you so much, you work so hard for us love youu☺☺
Another Great Video. Thank you.
Thank you So Much I'm learning from your Site so much
This video is so important
Dennis the Menace was a tv series that was popular in the 1950s in the US
Hm I have a question I want to get into witchcraft but I am still not of age can I already look a bit into it or should I wait till I’m over 18?
You can start looking into it. My two friends and I are all under 18, but we’re witches. You don’t need to join a coven
That red eyeliner is fire 🔥! #makeupgoals
Can you do a video on the roles of a coven please?
Warning signs for any kind of group, spiritual, religious or whatever!
Hii baby witch here
I am wondering about deities like, can you worship 2 different ones that are from different cultures? example (Nordic and Greek) and when you pick a deity/deities is it like they chose or you chose them and do you act like their friend or like a higher up (boss exc.) I’m just learning and have mostly been focused on energy and meditation, but I have been researching about the different gods a have found a few that is really connect with. If you have answers please help.
Sincerely,
A baby witch
I see it as every religion being true to an extent, for example Christian ywah is a powerful god but does have a form, and that the gods listed off are just known ones
this is so important thank you
Great idea! I want to know how to find all these covens 😩 lol
Do you work with spirit guides?? And angels?? I notice alot of witches don't. Or don't speak of them♡♡
Is believing that you can only manipulate your own energy (not that of the universe or other people) a valid form of witchcraft? I've been interested and researching for about a year now, but I want to make sure I'm not appropriating or offending anyone before I start practicing. Any advice welcome, thank you in advance!
I personally believe that the separation of self from the universe to be an illusion but I don't believe that this metaphysical perspective is necessary to practice witchcraft. Your beliefs and your craft are completely valid!
Yes, learning to manipulate your own energy is absolutely valid, and even utilizing the energy around you is just fine. Just take care about exhausting yourself. When starting out it can be easy to do. I've been practicing for awhile now, and I'm still getting the hang of it🙄. At first I needed to rest for a week or two before trying again because I was biting off more than I could chew without realizing it. But really anything you do with intention as a witch is valid. You don't even have to be a spellcaster, as Hearth herself would tell you. I'm not, & have no intention to be.
But I will say I think you are wise refraining from manipulating others in any way (at least without their permission & certainly not when 1st starting out), as that can have very unpredictable & unintended consequences. As you practice, you'll begin to find your path which will become tailored to your specific unique witchy self, and it will be wonderful 😊☀️
@@cassettetape7643 Thank you so much for your reply! 😊 Best wishes!
@@MysticWhiteReaper Thank you so much for replying! Hope you are well 😊
For me it is better to be a solitary witch. I have the nature, the magic, internet witches 😉 and my wife, who is also a witch. We work together. I would only join a coven with friends I know.
Covin offered me solution to my problems. Im not a witch. Is that safe?
Lots of great information and well spoken ;)
Thank you and I must say wow You are so pretty!!!