Wow this has definitely been the most controversial video I have ever put out or seen, it is an extreme 50/50 (actually 70/30) of people who agree and people who don't! Sounds like it's mainly coming down to if you're random queing or queing with a group/guild LOL, and how long its taking you on average to complete a run. Thanks for all the comments and feedback. In my opinion IF YOU'RE QUEING RANDOM SOLO you should wait a bit until randoms become better at mechanics so it doesn’t take AS long - you stack the tokens anyways. Doing them now is fine too if you want to spend the time, I’m just holding off!
blue gears should be removed from 2* dungeons drop pool. Replace them with something more useful such as skillbooks or red/blue eggs or trait unlockstones
you forget the part where this is an mmo, not a looter shooter. you don't just get whatever you want just because you did the content. the game would run out of content after 2 days if that was the case. just like looter shooters do.
@@PrawiSucia_Official Blue gear is necessary. Without it, getting fully traited purples would be a nightmare. Some of the blues actually sell for a good amount as well. Not to mention if they changed the loot table that much, either the drop rates for purples would be higher (devaluing them altogether) or they'd stay the same & instead of getting blue drops for traits and lucent. Dungeons already have a way of providing trait unlockstones too. 1 of each 2 star token = 5 trait unlocks. 1 of each 1 star provides 3 per. That being said, I do like the idea of simply adding reds/blues & skill books to the drop tables of dungeons. In addition to your loot, not instead of getting a blue or purple.
Terrible take, do NOT follow this advice. Skipping your 2 Star dungeons is actually probably the worst take I've heard.. The drop rates are almost the same in t1 and t2. The only good point he made was the minimum requirement being too low. 3k should be the minimum. You're struggling with these dungeons because your gear is bad & you're getting people around your gear. When you start doing more damage, your drops get much, much better. I've gotten thousands of lucent from 2 star dungeons alone. Even the tokens alone are worth doing the dungeon for, so you can actually get your gear. Not to mention you get more abyssal contract tokens, omnipotent skill books, etc. They are 1000% worth doing. If you don't do them, you're griefing yourself. Again, horrible advice, do not follow this.
I second this comment please don’t take this advice. I played the KR version of this game and this is horrible advice if you don’t know what your talking about don’t spread bad information
@@EhJay_Plays Thanks for replying 👍 tbh I had a lot of the same issues when it first came out, a lot of people struggled with mechanics (I currently never have issues running any of the four in less than 20-30m since people have learned). The two biggest factors are your hp being over 10k (below 10k, you'll get 1shot if you mess up) and making sure you don't mess up mechanics. The bosses are actually very easy, they're just tanky, they hit hard, and are unforgiving. For anyone struggling: Having a reliable healer to queue with is MASSIVE. Get your HP traits (I recommend target farming specific mobs that drop profitable loot, arduous, but worth it). Also fishing & cooking are VERY slept on. Check what sells for a lot (check what loot sells too & where to farm it, you can even litho drops & craft them for a 20% chance at a tradeable. I'd only recommend this with a higher surplus of lucent (like 3-6k minimum bc it's risky, but also incredibly profitable if you hit), cook a bunch & sell what is tradable. Keep what is bound for yourself. Crafting milk is one good way to level cooking. Reallocate your stats for PvE (you don't really need perception for mobs, unless youre missing hits) wisdom actually provides a lot of damage in the early points (as well as cdr, mana regen, etc.) I personally run like 60STR, 50 DEX, & 26 wisdom in PvE & my base damage is about 500 max. Pro tip, base damage is by far the strongest stat in the entire game. Even 10-20 points is a massive damage increase. Make a PvE skill build or follow one (just the skills). Focus high single target for bosses. If random queue is too rough, list your party on the board for whatever dungeon you need & put the gearscore requirements to what your current gearscore is. Yes you miss the extra 1 token and a chance at x12, but its a better alternative than not doing them. The other downside is that I don't believe you get the 10% damage & hp buff from random queue either. A lot of people might not like this last one, but if someone is consistently not pulling their weight (dying, screwing up mechanics, getting the team wiped, etc.) Just vote kick them. I give advice to people in dungeons and try to help them get it down (since I'm 3500 gs & I know the mechanics, I have the privilege of doing this. If you can't carry, don't waste your time trying to, at least not more than 1-3 times), but one or two anchors pulling you down... will drown you if the rest of your party can't make up for it. If anyone needs help, reply to this message & I might be able to help you with some runs. At the very least I can explain mechanics & answer ANY questions you have to the best of my ability. Cheers and good luck friends 👍
One way of seeing it is, you get a piece of gear from archbosses that you probably need for you build for every 12 random queues (need to get 3 of each) and assuming you have bad luck and they don't drop or you don't get the x12 reward. So, totally worth imo. Helps a lot doing it with friends tho
I'm glad I watched this guy cry for 15 minutes about how he didn't research a game before choosing a server, expects PUGs to be top tier, and how he doesn't understand dungeon drop mechanics.
You should make a video about how you researched the game before choosing a server, why PUGs are bottom tier, and how dungeon drop mechanics work, to show me!
@itspaglio1445 I agree. I'm almost done with the farm and had like 3 to 4 purple helm drops including 2 shadow harvester pieces. End of the day it boils down to rng. But from dec 5th with the penalty on random que, it's only worth doing random valley of slaughter till then.
@@betweenherenthere since start ive crafter 5 shadow trousers on 2 chars. 4 sell, one keep. That 7% rate either blessd me, but I've heard a lot of people getting them and the prices are just garbage now. These new dungeons are really worth for the lucent, thats it, while the t1 dungeons are only worth for the unlockstones.
The new gear? Is that not the entire point, getting the select chest. You're just upset at the game and that's fair but you are completely wrong about it being a waste of time.
I understand this, like the other 30 people who commented it, but I cannot fathom spending 1+ hours for 1 reward chest… lol, I’ll wait until people understand how to Q block and communicate and try again
@@EhJay_Plays you're going to meet bad and good players everywere lol, im 15 - 25 mins max per dung and thats understandable however i started rejectign and requeing till i get valley and just spamm no brain valley
Absolutely worth doing. It may be annoying at first but by now a lot of people have gotten the hang of things. If you choose one to do Id suggest island of terror as the traits from the chest can sell near 800 lucent each.
You should look up the original Korea version of the dungeons and see if it’s the same, it was too hard so they down graded it - the mass complained so they addressed it. Also there is a benefit to doing the dungeons, the tokens so you can get you BIS gear even if you have to craft it. I agree a lot of people don’t know mechs, just text it and assume they can read works for me
Timing is especially a problem when the Q block comes up to press, but the action doesn’t hit yet and therefore you missed - noticed that on carmine rage island
imagine u carried low cp players and they got something good like purple and u got blue gear, its like ur wasting 40mins of ur time just to get blue gear
I dont like the dungeons either. They mainly take too much time (for the low drop rates) even in best case where no one dies. The communication problem you mentioned has two main reasons I think: 1. cross play -> writing on console is a pain and takes ages 2. toxic community -> if you admit being in the dungeon for the first time you get insta kicked 90% of the time
That’s interesting, because I usually ask at the beginning or at the boss before we start, so much time to answer, and usually when I go through we just want to know to teach you, but every group is different I guess
Valley of slaughter is the only 2 star worth doing with randoms I think. Really straightforward and quick. Head pieces can have some decent worth too. Agree with you otherwise
I'm not sure if u think players are stuiped ,but we know it's the same apart from U needing 20k to survive in them now , have over 100 ping makes it so hard to do the T2 dungeons with & the lag U get just give us a Australia server or i would say alot Aussies & kiwis we just leave the game...
I agree they are mostly reskins of the 1 star dungeon and the CP should be minimum 3000. As a lucent farm, no, the dungeons are not worth your time, but if you need a specific drop from them they are. They have some really good pieces only available from world bosses along with new accessories. All new content is going to be a grind the first couple weeks with random teammates. It was the same way with the first dungeons and it'll be the same way with the next ones. Your whole complaint is that random matchmaking sucks (which it always will) and that they reskinned the originals. If that's the only bad things, I'd say they did a good job with them as a whole then.
When the 2 star dungeons released, I did the Island of Terror, and learning it was fun and cool with the randoms I did it with cause it was all a fresh new experience, then I was smacked with a blue loot drop, and the next clear the same thing ... I know it sounds like im over-reacting, but with how difficult those dungeons can be especially when helping players ... it almost makes ya wanna just quit the game and play something else ... ya know ... so I totally agree with alot of your points made in the video o7
@@EhJay_Plays Yeah I understand that, been playing MMO's for 15+ years, but never has something ever felt that underwhelming was my point, like all that effort, even if its a fast run, for a blue piece of gear, ya know
2 stars actual loot system is not bad. Nowadays everybody want everything right now. Remember, these loots are supposed to be WB loot not resistance stuff you can drop everywhere.. It is long to do yet but a best choice than doing WB raid and those stupid guys spaming 3k8 only
Join a guild with talking members. I'm in a casual guild and we did blind run on these t2 dungeons 2 days after it released so we can learn mechanics while having fun. Took quite amount of time but now we can finish 1 dungeon in 15~30mins in random queue. I already earned around 2k lucent just from selling loots I don't need to fund my gears. Theyre absolutely worth it and fun. And remember, these are repeatable dungeons so expecting them to be some kind of raid is just meh. Though they announced 12man raid coming
Agreed, unfortunately, the juice isn't worth the squeeze (at it's current state) unless perhaps gaming the system or just lucky & playing with regulars/diehards
look bro underwhelming or not this dungeons are important for us to grind . When you get 12 tokens of each boss you can craft chest containing the items this bosses drop . I've already farmed one of these chest and got me shadow harvester pants which are super expensive to buy . And there are plenty more items for every player to finalize his build and get somewhat decent and competitive . So yep this dungeons if you read this are important , grind them or miss on the rewards
Bro you’re gonna be grinding chests for the rest of your life trying to get the purple you need AND traits you want… hopefully in another week or so people learn to Q block and it won’t be so bad
@ that’s what it comes down to but honestly I got lucky and got the pants with magic evasion in my server it’s the most expensive trait . I got plenty of unc lock stones so at least I can unlock one more trait and then am farming and selling stuff on AH for lucent . Ngl I’ve dropped 50€ Already in the game and I maybe drop another 50 soon but this past week I’ve sold items on the AH for 3,8k lucent f2p so it’s not that bad to get a traction . It does need a LOT of time invested tho that’s true
So for the people crying and complaining. Do you prefer you're chances getting ur bis item from world bosses or dealing with the tier 2 dungeons. Ill help you out tier 2 anyday
@EhJay_Plays lol. I mean i agree with you on most points but when you look at it trying to gear out or max out ur build my server the top 3 guilds allianced themselves and made 3 sub guilds so top 6 guilds runs the server gate kept the indoor bosses with eclipse until recent eclipse changes. So even tho tier 2 is annoying I have a 2 chances a day to get a item that other wise is almost uber hard to get. Then comes if you're in a guild everyone looking for the same drop so yea. It's annoying but ill take it.
Eu windwhisper average amount of time for 2* is 30 min, if u are lucky to get into a party of geared guys that time goes to 15-20 min, i already made more than 3k lucent by farming those in a proper rotations (get and sell pants)
16 out of 16 runs I got blue items. Sure it's like 20-30 min per run, but in that time I can run 4 t1s and get more purples 😂. I would be fine with it if the bosses weren't such dmge sponges, the nerfed mechanics are fine and if you are geared enough you can do it without tank as long as you can keep aggro. For people that want harder content they can do the challenge lvls dec5 patch.
Atleast they need to lower blue drop rate. An hours doing dungeon is almost the same with tier 1 when its new. So i just enjoyit. What huge good thing with new dungeon is i have access with boss drop loot, they are cheap on AH
maybe its just me, but i get at least 1-2 purple gear every 2-3 runs, way better than getting the gear from WB, which I've never gotten a gear piece to date
This vid was a little late, in my random queues allmost everyone knows mechs already, you just have to ask if they know, if most of them don't replay or say "no" you just quit and spam random queue again, and the best that can happen to you is to get a party that kicks everyone who dies within 15 secs.
Until dec 5th, then u get banned for spam queueing. What then? On a similar note, I get shafted & accept my handguards of the resistance? I’ve received them EVERYTIME for 7-10 rounds of troblekk, going for swirling robe. I get a purple from every t1, however. Stupid, not worth your time.
I’ve done 8 2Star Dungeons at this point and still only blues to show for it. Other people who contributed less seem to be getting a lot more, for instance twice now the individual who dies right off the rip gets a purple and flexes it in the chat. One wrote “work smart not hard” I just about rage quit lmao
Eight is that it it's an mmo go play a looter shooter or come back after doing eighty and no purples but that won't happem cz the drop rates on this game are so much higher than most mmos I played
@@freeguy3376 Bro said come back after 80 but the game doesn’t allow you to do more than 10-12 at the present. Maybe they allocate you more points than everyone else?
Yep and it's not just typing!! Either it is much harder to play on console or just more casual player but more often then not they are really bad should be separate servers
@@rafaelsa5416 it’s a hell lot fun on console. As a dps it’s like a combat game. Easy to hit the buttons and blocking and so on. As a tank sometimes it’s difficult because of the camera movement and targeting mobs. It’s way easier with mouse and keyboard. BUT as a healer - no way - it’s damn difficult to heal your party members. Even if you change your button settings on the controller. It’s still switching through the members instead just clicking on the right person or maybe with keybind (ctrl + number). So as a dps it’s really nice, as a tank mediocre and as a healer really difficult 😊 so yes you are right. Even if the player is good some settings on the console hinders the player to be better 😢 (There is a dedicated PS5 server with no crossplay function (it’s called Paola or so)).
Idk if im wrong, but arent all MMORPG-s a grind and RNG based? I dont get the point crying over it, if every1 would get every run bis item with bis traits, they would be cheap. Isnt it about the dopamine when u get the good item and trait on it. Atm all i hear is that u want dungeons to be easyer, ppl better and carry, get easy and good drops all together. And in the begginning of the video, saying about different time zones in different servers...srsly? isnt there a time zone written when u choose a server? wasnt there 1000x videos telling ppl to carefully choose the server and how important it is? ppl who played on Korea servers made 100x videos to help ppl with different stuff. But ppl always will find things to cry about in any game. (PS sry for bad english, it isnt my 1st language.)
+1 sub dude is absolutely correct, i think even the community is getting as always toxic and so no patience to new players ... the game don't care about your time they just laugh at you... i don't know how people say its a in a great position...
My decision to not subscribe is based on your one comment "I only got one purple in sixteen runs"this shows your not a real mmo player. Mmos in their heart are grinders if your not happy with that go play a shooter looter. I've spent 4500 t1 dungeon tokns and k only got blues and Idc coz it's agar I expect from mmos and I still love it
I have to completely agree.. I ran probably about 20 of them and my impression of them has been that they are challenging, yes, but the bosses are all not too bad except mechanics that are exceptionally punishing. The real problem I've found is that the reward vs the time needed to run one is not really worth it. The bosses are a marathon and 1 missed mechanic can and will wipe a group and force you to reset again and again.
Yeah, I actually find them quite fun, but the frustration of people lying about knowing mechanics, wiping multiple times, and taking 40+ minutes for a blue piece of gear is just not worth it
nahhh, i do agree with the bad drop rates but if you want to make good Lucent.... Do T2 and sell what you don't need at the moment. I just recently made it over 3k CP and it was thanks to selling gear & buying what I needed at a cheap rate
I'm actually exhausted, since last week I've only been able to complete them 5 times. Been sitting on 4.5k for two days. I spend 6hrs on Carmine and was not able to finish it, Voidwaste was a little ok but still took between 2-3 for my 2 runs, Island of terror was enjoyable, but you lose your touch coz it's just exhausting probably spent 5-6hours to complete it twice. I am spent. oh btw, did I mention I'm a tank? So 1-2 missed blocks and everyone is fvcked or I get kicked. I'm sorry but I'm done with 2stars for now. I got a 9-5 ffs 😂
@@EhJay_Plays it’s a lot better, and it’s a lot of fun. We’re on oath if you ever want to make an alt, when they first released no one watched a guide and just wanted to have fun for the experience lol
you carry random low cp people for 30-40mins then the game will just give you some blue gear.. totally not worth your time queueing with random people, but if you have friends its quite fun. atleast you can rely on someone who actually knows the mech along with you.
@@AngeloMercado1127we all have the difference is i kick those people and keep kicking people till it's completed. Being the nice guy is wasting your time.
Not a fan of easy mode for gear. Small guilds can still level their guild and get gear in their weekly 7 runs. All of us who grinded just saw people get handed this stuff for free. I enjoy the long grind keeps me wanting for something. I enjoy the harder mechanics but think the loot should be new or harder to get so the market didn't tank. I guess their statistics show people spend money to trait gear and they are trying to increase profits for q4.
Well, obviously, you have missed the FACT, that exactly because of these new dungeons, the prices for armor pieces dropped literally the next day, from 4000-8000 lucent to 300 per piece, except leg armors of course, which also dropped at this point to 600-800 lucent, from 10-12 000. The dungeons, despite that are in same layout, are fine enough, challenging enough, at first few playthrough, and they served their purpose - which was normalizing the prices of tier 1 set armors. You complain for what exactly? Do you think that tier.1 Shadow Harvest leg armor really worth 12 000 lucent ? OR Shock commander??? Every single set item piece was absurdly expensive, not to mention at all Swirling Essence Robe, which was at average 20 000 lucent to 25 000, now it is 500 tops. You are literally insane, if you are complaining about the soundtrack, without seeing the big picture.... 😢
@@stanislavboianov3356 they are definitely serving their purpose, I hope I didn’t day they weren’t! I’m just waiting a bit until it takes less than 1-2 hours to clear each one with randoms… yesterday I did a couple and it is significantly better, and we’ll see how today goes! Thanks for the comment
@EhJay_Plays It's not like Brelshaza from Lost Ark. I am also mad, how it's hard to learn literally x3 moves of the boss, but as you said, day by day goes better ;)
idk i have mixed opinions about alot of what you've said here, what is a pve player imo its a player who plays half the game and expects to enjoy it, im not in a zerg guild actually my guild is pretty dead, i decided to play causually from the begining, still somehow 3.4k while being afk most of the week at work, p2f obv will support them if they release skin i like but nothing else, its always self harm to play half a game it kills your experience, its like me going to ffXIV and only playing the pvp content ... it doesnt make sense. hope you understand what i mean so dont take it the wrong way. when it comes to the content it self ... its still worth doing alot of bis gear drops in them not sure if you know the only alternative to get this gear is from world boss drops, so power is just gate kept by the strongest zerg eventually everyone will have same power (atleast that seems to be their plan). any ways alot more to say but will leave it at this, blessings.
@@zDarkXz great comment! I actually just joined a pvp guild who is active and will be doing PvP and have great groups to run stuff like this with moving forward (hopefully)!
I can see what you mean but what is your solution? Ignore them and get to 4500 tokens and just refuse to do them ? How about no on that one. You can get the tokens and get the gear you want from selection chests. There are plenty of benefits for doing them I think saying no on those is a mistake.
@@Zemoch93 i’m straight up just stacking 4500 and not doing them, waste of time haha, maybe on the weekend if I have nothing else to do and hate myself
@@EhJay_Plays Korean MMOs get exponentially harder. If you are skipping them right now because of "noobs", then everyone who plays them will learn it perfectly and you will come in and you will be the "noob" because you skipped the learning stage. I had this happen when I played LostArk and I would say learning the mechanics at the start with everyone is much better then starting late and being the only noob in a group of ppl who have killed the boss 20 times already. On another note as a creator think about , do I want to watch a video of a guy telling me "just give up it's not worth it", or do I want someone to motivate me give me tips on the mechanics and help me out ? Otherwise good luck with the algorithm my man
@Zemoch93 thanks for the comment - I know them at this point, but I’ve basically been stacking tokens until randoms become fluid and the time to complete comes down, I’ve done them many times. It’s not that I’m not ever going to do them again, I’m planning to revisit them this weekend and see how random groups are! From the creator POV, there are literally hundreds of people making guides, all saying the same thing, I’d rather try and find my own place to an extent, but sounds like I should just copy and paste everyone else’s content and not be original in any way!
Carmine rage island is ridiculously hard with randoms. Carmine rage island is twice as hard as the others. This isnt the fault of the player, but the dungeon is far too hard for our servers. Try the others. You judge your group based on dps at the start and leave if they dont meet that req.
What game are u talking about? You literally described every loot based game. Grind ur ass for shit loot then complain about the time wasted. It's kinda what to expect these days
I literally complete my 2 t2 and 3 t1 on both my characters everyday. Doesnt take that long. Not a waste of time to me but it probally is if you suck, low cp, and cant do the mechanics.
Also maybe stop going random queue if you want good party's there is a party board where you can ask for requirements!! Everyone wants the random rewards but get upset that they don't get the dungeons they want and the party members they want
I could be wrong with this thinking but I feel the new dungeons aren't the issue at least not completely I'll agree the game needs a 911 polish the game us so buggy and broken right now but at the same time I feel like t1 was way too ez like most t1 dungeons if not all can be clear by 1 or 2 people depending classes so we got spoiled and t2 are way harder after we got used to the ez stuff. I don't like getting blues at all but my team and we can clear most of the t2 without incidents unless we faced a bugg and my teammates are higher cp than me am the lowest at 3k just last night and I've been clearing slaughter by 2 weeks now and Isle by 4- 5 days isles have some buggs that can be annoying but for the most part you can go around. My biggest issue is that for the last 5 days I've been kicked out of random dungeons for playing staff and wand even got insulted recently for it wich makes no sense if you ain't healing they kick you out and funny enough I don't play healer I play dps and I feel like way too many gamers are ignorant on what staff and wand can do.
@@robertobassatt3141 i’m all for having long grindy dungeons if they come with good rewards, but these rewards are okay at BEST, so if randoms are clearing them next week with ease I’m okay with it. But this first week, people can’t even q block ffs
@EhJay_Plays I hear you but that's the problem with randoms many are looking for a carry and t2 everyone needs to do their job also you can farm shadow harvester and wolf gear wich are a most for dps builds.
Shadow Harvester and Wolf are great but you’re currently spending hours to not get it, let alone get the trait you need! I’d wait a bit until people are better at the dungeons and try again, just my $0.02
I think this video is a psyop to keep people out of t2s to keep AH prices high :) I'm only half kidding, randoms are hard with pickup groups and when people don't talk it's hard to get the experience you need in these dungeons to go through them fast, I have been just spamming Slaughter t2 cuz the mechanics are easy, are any of the other t2 s as easy as slaughter?
@@ryanhoekstra6000 i’d say Voidwastes is the second easiest, followed by Island of Terror, followed by Carmine Rage Island. I have videos on Voidwastes and Carmine this week if you want to see what they are like!
Totaly agree with you ! 2** NOT worth your time investment if your NOT in a pre-made. Lucent quicker / easier to farm and far less time investment by farming Open World or 1* Dungeons. Newer players may want to grind out the 2** piece they need, my suggestion because of the 'what seems to be' low drop rate for Purples in 2**, is just to farm the Coins. Essentially .... farm 1* / Open Dungeons and sell everything and go buy the 2** piece will take you way less time.
That’s kind of what I’ve been doing, but I just joined a new guild and we’ll see if I can get some actual good groups running, and is my opinion changes lol
@@JohnAIDoe well it has a 30/70 chance for purples/blues, and then RNG for your trait… cool if you wanna gamble after spending 1+ hours per dungeon I guess. I value my time at least a little bit LOL
Wait, your not finishing them in 15 to 20 minutes? I am. 3.5k CP Spellblade. Rarley now do I find a shit group. I do agree with the blue shit. No reason we should be learning these mechs to get a dunce hat.😂
its such a shame the game has gone this way so far its been great like really good at first you feel like the p2w isnt so bad which it really isnt until you need the really good drops ...but once you realise the loot drops dont drop and you get blues!!!! ..then like you say its like what the point in playing :/ im really sad and just going to wait for spear release play it for a day and then play POE2 :(
I don't think p2w is really a factor here. My 2.5k healer alt with almost only blue gears has been getting more purples than my 3.5k main. Also got the 12x token selection twice from doing random queues. Was able to fund my main's pvp gears.
Yeah its just you. That is why theres a pt. You just need to farm what you need thats all. Youre asking too much for a game thats over a month. And fyi its a free game. T2 is just a way for everyone to gear faster ( since some armors are world boss drops only) they just give f2p players time to chase those whales.
@@marklestergatchalian8431 I’m so baffled you came to the comments to comment and say it’s just me, and didn’t read any of the other 30+ comments agreeing with me LOL. Nothing is free btw, you pay with time! Thanks for the comment
I mean for solid guilds we are farming these DG,s everyday and still gearing allot of our team up. the World boss's before were a road block for f2p based guilds so they are a god send. for sure if you are a solo player i can imagine it is a very different ball game all together but you seem to be forgetting that thrones entire end game is structured around guild and pvp life. Join an active guild guys period
@@Jraffneck I think we are one of the lucky servers in the EU where it has stayed pretty balanced guild wise so the pvp has been great fun and continues to be. I mean what are you even talking about "more busy work that stops progression" ? if a game feels like work to you I think maybe you should play something that you find more enjoyable lol. can't please them all /shrug
@@EhJay_Plays wdym "yikes" ? lmao how is it stopping progression? the whole game is split throughout the day so you can do whatever you want and if it is the conflict boss's they are going on about, that is one of the main challenges in the game haha I mean if folk keep turning up to conflicts in glass cannon builds and get one shot all the time I get it but that's on them for falling in the DPS must have highest dps gear trap and completely ignoring the defensive side of the gear first then minmax your dps after if you wana get into the pvp mix in Throne. was always the same in WoW, folk would complain about the pvp in the game and when you checked their gear their standing around in lfr raid gear and they wonder why they are having a hard time
Yea everything about this T2 update sucks. And peopel try to gatekeep and say the dungeons are "new". But lets be honest they just are just recycled versions. Also no new loot, they just put world boss items into these like WHY ? the "new" loot is also garbage. Most of the "new" purple loot was 20 lucent in the very 1st day. Putting the world boss items into these also reduced the value of these items and a lot of items and ruined the market. When I say these criticisms people blame me saying I say these because I am in a top guild, but i was always against alliances. We even broke our allience willingly on our server because the competing alliance gave up. I just want the good of the game. All of my friends and guildies either quit or at the verge of quitting after this T2 update. And I am barely holding on. The least they should have done is make t1-t2 tokens hybrid - do whichever u want. But noooo, now you have even MORE DP - chores- to do, yes they are chores at this point because they are not rewarding enough. Like I said, everyone i know is burnt out but playing too much is only one of the factors, this T2 update was NOT the straw that broke the camels back, but it was the biggest load of crap that broke it - excuse my language but it is what this is a flaming pile of crap. You might say "dont do those dungeons than" as you recommended in your video, but then you feel you are left behind and when you feel that way you are 10x more likely to quit because you think you cant catch up - dont get me wrong I agree with almost everything you said
@@EhJay_Plays yea PoE is great, but I am afraid getting back into PoE, I think if I stop playing TL, I ll just wait around for ArcheAge 2 whenever that comes out
i think my dude u are just unlucky, i was able to craft the junobote pants in just 4 days. I have done more than 4k Lucent with the drops. I have great power and i have learned the mechs and i do these dungeons on the first attempt. I think your whole argument is so pooooooor, u were just unlucky. And let me tell u 15 times is nothing.. i mean u cannot be afried of the grinding on a MMO... u are just too noob to do this dungeons efficiently xD... Also u can craft the trait stones a lot easier... Btw i have 500 hours of play.. so i think i have more experience than u ,... and let me tell u this is the best way to get the junobote pants (mandatory for PVP)
If u complaining with the basic 2 star dungeon, then u won't have a chance to do the challenge mode for rune farming. I always solo q the 2 star dungeon and if there ppl who doesn't know how to do mech, we just kick them and random queue again or even leave the dungeon. Just get better, u can't always rely on other. And gears are matter! full equip no traits vs full equip with full traits really matter, u get those offensive stat like skill damage boost and defensive stat like skill damage resistance will help u out clearing faster or sustain some of the attack. For those new players out there please do watch the guide before entering the dungeon, u don't want to waste your time and your teammates. If u keep messed up with mechanic then u are not ready to do this kind of 2 star dungeon.
@@EhJay_PlaysIncrease CP if you want better team mates overall, even doing Carmine I only take 20 minutes Max to clear it, not to mention the amount of unlockstones you get is one of your highest unlockstones income, it should not be taken lightly.
@@EhJay_Plays the value of an unlockstone is way more than you think, once you have enough lucent for a band of universal power (obviously archboss weps are a myth to obtain) the ability to save 6k lucent per trait line with unlock stones is so worth it, especially to prepare for when t2 gear comes out, because weapons are not going to be 100 unlockstones per line anymore, its all doubled, 200, per line. so doing 2 star dungeons for the coins should be done horizontal to get these unlockstones, because you also will be getting them from the t1 pouches so 8 unlockstones for running every dungeon once? dont forget you get the chance for x12 coins in t2. people should not even be buying the chest for gears to litho and sell, they should save for unlockstones completely, we are going to need far too many to save SO much lucent (if you want to save 6k+ lucent JUST from band of universal power numbers)
May be if the players will start focusing more on mechanics instead of reviewing encounter soundtrack, then the runs will take under 20 minutes and it will stop to be that frustrating for them.
Wow this has definitely been the most controversial video I have ever put out or seen, it is an extreme 50/50 (actually 70/30) of people who agree and people who don't! Sounds like it's mainly coming down to if you're random queing or queing with a group/guild LOL, and how long its taking you on average to complete a run. Thanks for all the comments and feedback.
In my opinion IF YOU'RE QUEING RANDOM SOLO you should wait a bit until randoms become better at mechanics so it doesn’t take AS long - you stack the tokens anyways. Doing them now is fine too if you want to spend the time, I’m just holding off!
blue gears should be removed from 2* dungeons drop pool. Replace them with something more useful such as skillbooks or red/blue eggs or trait unlockstones
I like this
you forget the part where this is an mmo, not a looter shooter. you don't just get whatever you want just because you did the content. the game would run out of content after 2 days if that was the case. just like looter shooters do.
Nah.. its only 2stars
Yup I'm with you this ppl who think theyre mmo players but not willing to put 1000+ hours into grinding @@tyrant3191
@@PrawiSucia_Official Blue gear is necessary. Without it, getting fully traited purples would be a nightmare. Some of the blues actually sell for a good amount as well. Not to mention if they changed the loot table that much, either the drop rates for purples would be higher (devaluing them altogether) or they'd stay the same & instead of getting blue drops for traits and lucent.
Dungeons already have a way of providing trait unlockstones too. 1 of each 2 star token = 5 trait unlocks. 1 of each 1 star provides 3 per.
That being said, I do like the idea of simply adding reds/blues & skill books to the drop tables of dungeons. In addition to your loot, not instead of getting a blue or purple.
Terrible take, do NOT follow this advice. Skipping your 2 Star dungeons is actually probably the worst take I've heard.. The drop rates are almost the same in t1 and t2. The only good point he made was the minimum requirement being too low. 3k should be the minimum. You're struggling with these dungeons because your gear is bad & you're getting people around your gear.
When you start doing more damage, your drops get much, much better. I've gotten thousands of lucent from 2 star dungeons alone. Even the tokens alone are worth doing the dungeon for, so you can actually get your gear. Not to mention you get more abyssal contract tokens, omnipotent skill books, etc. They are 1000% worth doing.
If you don't do them, you're griefing yourself. Again, horrible advice, do not follow this.
Nice constructive counter point, thanks for the comment!
I guess a gear score of 3700 is now considered bad
I second this comment please don’t take this advice. I played the KR version of this game and this is horrible advice if you don’t know what your talking about don’t spread bad information
There shud be more ppl like you in the comment so ppl wont fall to this bad advise.
@@EhJay_Plays Thanks for replying 👍 tbh I had a lot of the same issues when it first came out, a lot of people struggled with mechanics (I currently never have issues running any of the four in less than 20-30m since people have learned). The two biggest factors are your hp being over 10k (below 10k, you'll get 1shot if you mess up) and making sure you don't mess up mechanics. The bosses are actually very easy, they're just tanky, they hit hard, and are unforgiving.
For anyone struggling:
Having a reliable healer to queue with is MASSIVE.
Get your HP traits (I recommend target farming specific mobs that drop profitable loot, arduous, but worth it). Also fishing & cooking are VERY slept on. Check what sells for a lot (check what loot sells too & where to farm it, you can even litho drops & craft them for a 20% chance at a tradeable. I'd only recommend this with a higher surplus of lucent (like 3-6k minimum bc it's risky, but also incredibly profitable if you hit), cook a bunch & sell what is tradable. Keep what is bound for yourself. Crafting milk is one good way to level cooking.
Reallocate your stats for PvE (you don't really need perception for mobs, unless youre missing hits) wisdom actually provides a lot of damage in the early points (as well as cdr, mana regen, etc.) I personally run like 60STR, 50 DEX, & 26 wisdom in PvE & my base damage is about 500 max. Pro tip, base damage is by far the strongest stat in the entire game. Even 10-20 points is a massive damage increase.
Make a PvE skill build or follow one (just the skills). Focus high single target for bosses.
If random queue is too rough, list your party on the board for whatever dungeon you need & put the gearscore requirements to what your current gearscore is. Yes you miss the extra 1 token and a chance at x12, but its a better alternative than not doing them. The other downside is that I don't believe you get the 10% damage & hp buff from random queue either.
A lot of people might not like this last one, but if someone is consistently not pulling their weight (dying, screwing up mechanics, getting the team wiped, etc.) Just vote kick them. I give advice to people in dungeons and try to help them get it down (since I'm 3500 gs & I know the mechanics, I have the privilege of doing this. If you can't carry, don't waste your time trying to, at least not more than 1-3 times), but one or two anchors pulling you down... will drown you if the rest of your party can't make up for it.
If anyone needs help, reply to this message & I might be able to help you with some runs. At the very least I can explain mechanics & answer ANY questions you have to the best of my ability.
Cheers and good luck friends 👍
One way of seeing it is, you get a piece of gear from archbosses that you probably need for you build for every 12 random queues (need to get 3 of each) and assuming you have bad luck and they don't drop or you don't get the x12 reward. So, totally worth imo. Helps a lot doing it with friends tho
all my friends who played the game quit sadge, just joined a new guild tho
I’ll take 30 purple skill books, 10 omnipotent, I feel that’s fair for the time. Presenting blues like it’s a viable drop is a bloody hate crime lol
The books are great, can’t deny that
I'm glad I watched this guy cry for 15 minutes about how he didn't research a game before choosing a server, expects PUGs to be top tier, and how he doesn't understand dungeon drop mechanics.
You should make a video about how you researched the game before choosing a server, why PUGs are bottom tier, and how dungeon drop mechanics work, to show me!
Relax dude we're farming the 12x dungeon shards so we can farm Junobote's pants
Incorrect take, we’re wasting our time for a very slim take at 12x dungeon shards.
@@betweenherenthere true
@itspaglio1445 I agree. I'm almost done with the farm and had like 3 to 4 purple helm drops including 2 shadow harvester pieces. End of the day it boils down to rng. But from dec 5th with the penalty on random que, it's only worth doing random valley of slaughter till then.
@@betweenherenthere since start ive crafter 5 shadow trousers on 2 chars. 4 sell, one keep. That 7% rate either blessd me, but I've heard a lot of people getting them and the prices are just garbage now. These new dungeons are really worth for the lucent, thats it, while the t1 dungeons are only worth for the unlockstones.
@@gabriel-madalinirimia678 ure blessed for sure my guy. never got any 12x since day 1
The new gear? Is that not the entire point, getting the select chest. You're just upset at the game and that's fair but you are completely wrong about it being a waste of time.
I understand this, like the other 30 people who commented it, but I cannot fathom spending 1+ hours for 1 reward chest… lol, I’ll wait until people understand how to Q block and communicate and try again
@@EhJay_PlaysI spend 15-30 minutes per run
@@EhJay_Plays you're going to meet bad and good players everywere lol, im 15 - 25 mins max per dung and thats understandable however i started rejectign and requeing till i get valley and just spamm no brain valley
Absolutely worth doing. It may be annoying at first but by now a lot of people have gotten the hang of things. If you choose one to do Id suggest island of terror as the traits from the chest can sell near 800 lucent each.
@@cn7520-r yeah I’ve been doing them today and people are getting better for sure
You should look up the original Korea version of the dungeons and see if it’s the same, it was too hard so they down graded it - the mass complained so they addressed it. Also there is a benefit to doing the dungeons, the tokens so you can get you BIS gear even if you have to craft it. I agree a lot of people don’t know mechs, just text it and assume they can read works for me
Americans don’t even communicate to text it 😭
Understanding mechanics is one thing; managing timing is another. thx for vid
Timing is especially a problem when the Q block comes up to press, but the action doesn’t hit yet and therefore you missed - noticed that on carmine rage island
imagine u carried low cp players and they got something good like purple and u got blue gear, its like ur wasting 40mins of ur time just to get blue gear
@@dex2417 literally…
I dont like the dungeons either. They mainly take too much time (for the low drop rates) even in best case where no one dies.
The communication problem you mentioned has two main reasons I think:
1. cross play -> writing on console is a pain and takes ages
2. toxic community -> if you admit being in the dungeon for the first time you get insta kicked 90% of the time
That’s interesting, because I usually ask at the beginning or at the boss before we start, so much time to answer, and usually when I go through we just want to know to teach you, but every group is different I guess
Valley of slaughter is the only 2 star worth doing with randoms I think. Really straightforward and quick. Head pieces can have some decent worth too. Agree with you otherwise
yeah, valley of slaughter definitely the easiest one
Too easy as if they didn’t even care about
I'm not sure if u think players are stuiped ,but we know it's the same apart from U needing 20k to survive in them now , have over 100 ping makes it so hard to do the T2 dungeons with & the lag U get just give us a Australia server or i would say alot Aussies & kiwis we just leave the game...
the Ping COPIUMMM, hehe joking, thanks for the comment
I agree they are mostly reskins of the 1 star dungeon and the CP should be minimum 3000.
As a lucent farm, no, the dungeons are not worth your time, but if you need a specific drop from them they are. They have some really good pieces only available from world bosses along with new accessories.
All new content is going to be a grind the first couple weeks with random teammates. It was the same way with the first dungeons and it'll be the same way with the next ones. Your whole complaint is that random matchmaking sucks (which it always will) and that they reskinned the originals. If that's the only bad things, I'd say they did a good job with them as a whole then.
@@Swords941 i just joined a new guild and am curious if my opinion will change running with a dedicated group
3k cp wtf you just need hp my alt as barley 2.5k but it's GS so does all of them and valley does it easy
When the 2 star dungeons released, I did the Island of Terror, and learning it was fun and cool with the randoms I did it with cause it was all a fresh new experience, then I was smacked with a blue loot drop, and the next clear the same thing ... I know it sounds like im over-reacting, but with how difficult those dungeons can be especially when helping players ... it almost makes ya wanna just quit the game and play something else ... ya know ... so I totally agree with alot of your points made in the video o7
@@Psy-Crow hey thanks for the comment! I think once people get more familiar and the times to beat come down it will be much better!!
@@EhJay_Plays Yeah I understand that, been playing MMO's for 15+ years, but never has something ever felt that underwhelming was my point, like all that effort, even if its a fast run, for a blue piece of gear, ya know
@@Psy-Crow totally agree! Hence what inspired the video! Thanks for the comment hope to see you around in more videos :D
2 stars actual loot system is not bad. Nowadays everybody want everything right now. Remember, these loots are supposed to be WB loot not resistance stuff you can drop everywhere.. It is long to do yet but a best choice than doing WB raid and those stupid guys spaming 3k8 only
HAHAHA TRUE
Join a guild with talking members. I'm in a casual guild and we did blind run on these t2 dungeons 2 days after it released so we can learn mechanics while having fun. Took quite amount of time but now we can finish 1 dungeon in 15~30mins in random queue. I already earned around 2k lucent just from selling loots I don't need to fund my gears. Theyre absolutely worth it and fun.
And remember, these are repeatable dungeons so expecting them to be some kind of raid is just meh. Though they announced 12man raid coming
Yeah, I just left my guild to jion a new one and hopefulyl can start speed running these, bc as of rn I spend my time doing other stuff lol
That 12 man raid won't be here until the game is dead, sorry to tell you
@@EhJay_Plays in the roadmap it's scheduled to be out on april 2025. Doubt the game will even be close to death by then.
Copium
i like the idea of wiping and teaching others to do it :P when its normally just you get the boot
Agreed, unfortunately, the juice isn't worth the squeeze (at it's current state) unless perhaps gaming the system or just lucky & playing with regulars/diehards
Yeeeeeep
feels good to be pvp player and actually want the drops. my luck has made me tons of luccent off the tier 2
UR LUCKY BROO 😢
look bro underwhelming or not this dungeons are important for us to grind . When you get 12 tokens of each boss you can craft chest containing the items this bosses drop . I've already farmed one of these chest and got me shadow harvester pants which are super expensive to buy . And there are plenty more items for every player to finalize his build and get somewhat decent and competitive . So yep this dungeons if you read this are important , grind them or miss on the rewards
Bro you’re gonna be grinding chests for the rest of your life trying to get the purple you need AND traits you want… hopefully in another week or so people learn to Q block and it won’t be so bad
@ that’s what it comes down to but honestly I got lucky and got the pants with magic evasion in my server it’s the most expensive trait . I got plenty of unc lock stones so at least I can unlock one more trait and then am farming and selling stuff on AH for lucent . Ngl I’ve dropped 50€ Already in the game and I maybe drop another 50 soon but this past week I’ve sold items on the AH for 3,8k lucent f2p so it’s not that bad to get a traction . It does need a LOT of time invested tho that’s true
I queue with my guild 3/4 random queue. That helps. Solo q I would probably get booted as a wand dagger dps unless I heal.
Having a guild is huge!!
So for the people crying and complaining. Do you prefer you're chances getting ur bis item from world bosses or dealing with the tier 2 dungeons. Ill help you out tier 2 anyday
well when you put it that way...
i prefer to get my items from open world. Fk dungeons/keys/events...
@EhJay_Plays lol. I mean i agree with you on most points but when you look at it trying to gear out or max out ur build my server the top 3 guilds allianced themselves and made 3 sub guilds so top 6 guilds runs the server gate kept the indoor bosses with eclipse until recent eclipse changes. So even tho tier 2 is annoying I have a 2 chances a day to get a item that other wise is almost uber hard to get. Then comes if you're in a guild everyone looking for the same drop so yea. It's annoying but ill take it.
Eu windwhisper average amount of time for 2* is 30 min, if u are lucky to get into a party of geared guys that time goes to 15-20 min, i already made more than 3k lucent by farming those in a proper rotations (get and sell pants)
Holy I fucking wish
16 out of 16 runs I got blue items.
Sure it's like 20-30 min per run, but in that time I can run 4 t1s and get more purples 😂. I would be fine with it if the bosses weren't such dmge sponges, the nerfed mechanics are fine and if you are geared enough you can do it without tank as long as you can keep aggro.
For people that want harder content they can do the challenge lvls dec5 patch.
Atleast they need to lower blue drop rate.
An hours doing dungeon is almost the same with tier 1 when its new. So i just enjoyit.
What huge good thing with new dungeon is i have access with boss drop loot, they are cheap on AH
I’m waiting for AH prices to drop!!!
maybe its just me, but i get at least 1-2 purple gear every 2-3 runs, way better than getting the gear from WB, which I've never gotten a gear piece to date
@@unrealdragonax1662 damn I fkn wish…
This vid was a little late, in my random queues allmost everyone knows mechs already, you just have to ask if they know, if most of them don't replay or say "no" you just quit and spam random queue again, and the best that can happen to you is to get a party that kicks everyone who dies within 15 secs.
HAHA, yeah every time I ask people I get no answer or they lie
Until dec 5th, then u get banned for spam queueing. What then? On a similar note, I get shafted & accept my handguards of the resistance? I’ve received them EVERYTIME for 7-10 rounds of troblekk, going for swirling robe. I get a purple from every t1, however. Stupid, not worth your time.
I’ve done 8 2Star Dungeons at this point and still only blues to show for it. Other people who contributed less seem to be getting a lot more, for instance twice now the individual who dies right off the rip gets a purple and flexes it in the chat. One wrote “work smart not hard” I just about rage quit lmao
Eight is that it it's an mmo go play a looter shooter or come back after doing eighty and no purples but that won't happem cz the drop rates on this game are so much higher than most mmos I played
HAHAHA “work smarter not harder” is a wild line to drop, sad to see
HIGHER??? What MMO’s were you playing?
@@freeguy3376 Bro said come back after 80 but the game doesn’t allow you to do more than 10-12 at the present. Maybe they allocate you more points than everyone else?
@@EhJay_Plays I’d like to know as well but maybe he’s a BDO victim
It’s not easy typing on console bro sorry 😢
@@slickkong2913 🤣
Yep and it's not just typing!!
Either it is much harder to play on console or just more casual player but more often then not they are really bad should be separate servers
@@rafaelsa5416 it’s a hell lot fun on console. As a dps it’s like a combat game. Easy to hit the buttons and blocking and so on. As a tank sometimes it’s difficult because of the camera movement and targeting mobs. It’s way easier with mouse and keyboard. BUT as a healer - no way - it’s damn difficult to heal your party members. Even if you change your button settings on the controller. It’s still switching through the members instead just clicking on the right person or maybe with keybind (ctrl + number).
So as a dps it’s really nice, as a tank mediocre and as a healer really difficult 😊 so yes you are right. Even if the player is good some settings on the console hinders the player to be better 😢
(There is a dedicated PS5 server with no crossplay function (it’s called Paola or so)).
When im doing 2 stars dungeons with random, its 20 minutes ish, so worth it for me
Huge luck, everyone I get put with can't even Q block
😢@@EhJay_Plays
yea.. im the guy who only play 3hours a day, watching and learn mechanic to just play 1dng per day
That’s rough
Idk if im wrong, but arent all MMORPG-s a grind and RNG based? I dont get the point crying over it, if every1 would get every run bis item with bis traits, they would be cheap. Isnt it about the dopamine when u get the good item and trait on it.
Atm all i hear is that u want dungeons to be easyer, ppl better and carry, get easy and good drops all together.
And in the begginning of the video, saying about different time zones in different servers...srsly? isnt there a time zone written when u choose a server? wasnt there 1000x videos telling ppl to carefully choose the server and how important it is?
ppl who played on Korea servers made 100x videos to help ppl with different stuff.
But ppl always will find things to cry about in any game.
(PS sry for bad english, it isnt my 1st language.)
Damn homie didn’t even watch the video lol
+1 sub dude is absolutely correct, i think even the community is getting as always toxic and so no patience to new players ... the game don't care about your time they just laugh at you... i don't know how people say its a in a great position...
@@vimbo i’d have patience if they were honest and communicated but I swear 90% of new players don’t talk and want a carry LOL
dude big facts
especially archboss shard farming.
My decision to not subscribe is based on your one comment "I only got one purple in sixteen runs"this shows your not a real mmo player. Mmos in their heart are grinders if your not happy with that go play a shooter looter. I've spent 4500 t1 dungeon tokns and k only got blues and Idc coz it's agar I expect from mmos and I still love it
No problem, thanks for commenting nonetheless!
Not discouraged, still love the game! Once POE 2 comes out though… who knows
I have to completely agree.. I ran probably about 20 of them and my impression of them has been that they are challenging, yes, but the bosses are all not too bad except mechanics that are exceptionally punishing. The real problem I've found is that the reward vs the time needed to run one is not really worth it. The bosses are a marathon and 1 missed mechanic can and will wipe a group and force you to reset again and again.
Yeah, I actually find them quite fun, but the frustration of people lying about knowing mechanics, wiping multiple times, and taking 40+ minutes for a blue piece of gear is just not worth it
nahhh, i do agree with the bad drop rates but if you want to make good Lucent....
Do T2 and sell what you don't need at the moment. I just recently made it over 3k CP and it was thanks to selling gear & buying what I needed at a cheap rate
@@specsxx3167 do T2 spending hours to sell a 10 lucent blue?? What?
@@EhJay_Plays just do Turka bro, it literally have no mech
AND AT THE END AFTER 30 MINS SUFFERING , CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE JUST LOOTED A BLUE ITEM FROM THE BOSS BOX XD
I’ve never had so many blue hexweaver hats WOOO
I'm actually exhausted, since last week I've only been able to complete them 5 times. Been sitting on 4.5k for two days. I spend 6hrs on Carmine and was not able to finish it, Voidwaste was a little ok but still took between 2-3 for my 2 runs, Island of terror was enjoyable, but you lose your touch coz it's just exhausting probably spent 5-6hours to complete it twice. I am spent. oh btw, did I mention I'm a tank? So 1-2 missed blocks and everyone is fvcked or I get kicked. I'm sorry but I'm done with 2stars for now. I got a 9-5 ffs 😂
@@samesamv1472 LOL yikes, yep its a BAD experience rn. I just stopped for now
As someone with an active guild that do daily runs, they are worth lol
@@Sirkuru can’t relate, just left my dead guild for a more active one… maybe my mind will be changed
@@EhJay_Plays it’s a lot better, and it’s a lot of fun. We’re on oath if you ever want to make an alt, when they first released no one watched a guide and just wanted to have fun for the experience lol
totally agree...2 star dungeons is not worth it our time compared how long it takes and reward at the end
@@andriusjovaisas3511 100%
you carry random low cp people for 30-40mins then the game will just give you some blue gear.. totally not worth your time queueing with random people, but if you have friends its quite fun. atleast you can rely on someone who actually knows the mech along with you.
I would disagree completely. They take barely any time at all if you know what to do & your dps isn't absolute garbage. 10-20m runs tops.
@@alexwakefield-pandorasthou6391 clearly you havent partied with people who died on the first round of mech
@@AngeloMercado1127we all have the difference is i kick those people and keep kicking people till it's completed. Being the nice guy is wasting your time.
Not a fan of easy mode for gear. Small guilds can still level their guild and get gear in their weekly 7 runs. All of us who grinded just saw people get handed this stuff for free. I enjoy the long grind keeps me wanting for something. I enjoy the harder mechanics but think the loot should be new or harder to get so the market didn't tank. I guess their statistics show people spend money to trait gear and they are trying to increase profits for q4.
@@johnryan8985 give people the hope of getting gear so they buy the gear when they don’t get it… using $$ to buy lucent!
Well, obviously, you have missed the FACT, that exactly because of these new dungeons, the prices for armor pieces dropped literally the next day, from 4000-8000 lucent to 300 per piece, except leg armors of course, which also dropped at this point to 600-800 lucent, from 10-12 000. The dungeons, despite that are in same layout, are fine enough, challenging enough, at first few playthrough, and they served their purpose - which was normalizing the prices of tier 1 set armors. You complain for what exactly? Do you think that tier.1 Shadow Harvest leg armor really worth 12 000 lucent ? OR Shock commander??? Every single set item piece was absurdly expensive, not to mention at all Swirling Essence Robe, which was at average 20 000 lucent to 25 000, now it is 500 tops. You are literally insane, if you are complaining about the soundtrack, without seeing the big picture.... 😢
@@stanislavboianov3356 they are definitely serving their purpose, I hope I didn’t day they weren’t! I’m just waiting a bit until it takes less than 1-2 hours to clear each one with randoms… yesterday I did a couple and it is significantly better, and we’ll see how today goes! Thanks for the comment
@EhJay_Plays It's not like Brelshaza from Lost Ark. I am also mad, how it's hard to learn literally x3 moves of the boss, but as you said, day by day goes better ;)
idk i have mixed opinions about alot of what you've said here, what is a pve player imo its a player who plays half the game and expects to enjoy it, im not in a zerg guild actually my guild is pretty dead, i decided to play causually from the begining, still somehow 3.4k while being afk most of the week at work, p2f obv will support them if they release skin i like but nothing else, its always self harm to play half a game it kills your experience, its like me going to ffXIV and only playing the pvp content ... it doesnt make sense. hope you understand what i mean so dont take it the wrong way.
when it comes to the content it self ... its still worth doing alot of bis gear drops in them not sure if you know the only alternative to get this gear is from world boss drops, so power is just gate kept by the strongest zerg eventually everyone will have same power (atleast that seems to be their plan).
any ways alot more to say but will leave it at this, blessings.
@@zDarkXz great comment! I actually just joined a pvp guild who is active and will be doing PvP and have great groups to run stuff like this with moving forward (hopefully)!
@@EhJay_Plays looking forward to it, be blessed.
I can see what you mean but what is your solution? Ignore them and get to 4500 tokens and just refuse to do them ?
How about no on that one. You can get the tokens and get the gear you want from selection chests. There are plenty of benefits for doing them I think saying no on those is a mistake.
@@Zemoch93 i’m straight up just stacking 4500 and not doing them, waste of time haha, maybe on the weekend if I have nothing else to do and hate myself
@@EhJay_Plays Korean MMOs get exponentially harder. If you are skipping them right now because of "noobs", then everyone who plays them will learn it perfectly and you will come in and you will be the "noob" because you skipped the learning stage. I had this happen when I played LostArk and I would say learning the mechanics at the start with everyone is much better then starting late and being the only noob in a group of ppl who have killed the boss 20 times already.
On another note as a creator think about , do I want to watch a video of a guy telling me "just give up it's not worth it", or do I want someone to motivate me give me tips on the mechanics and help me out ? Otherwise good luck with the algorithm my man
@Zemoch93 thanks for the comment - I know them at this point, but I’ve basically been stacking tokens until randoms become fluid and the time to complete comes down, I’ve done them many times. It’s not that I’m not ever going to do them again, I’m planning to revisit them this weekend and see how random groups are!
From the creator POV, there are literally hundreds of people making guides, all saying the same thing, I’d rather try and find my own place to an extent, but sounds like I should just copy and paste everyone else’s content and not be original in any way!
Carmine rage island is ridiculously hard with randoms. Carmine rage island is twice as hard as the others. This isnt the fault of the player, but the dungeon is far too hard for our servers. Try the others. You judge your group based on dps at the start and leave if they dont meet that req.
How is he hard. Block, dodge block and the pillar mech and repeat.
bruh the dungeon is easy, he only has pillar mech and charge mech
Carmine platform boss sucks with pugs the rest is fine!
people cant dodge roll ig
@@higguma I think it comes with time, I agree randoms CANNOT figure out how to roll dodge…
What game are u talking about? You literally described every loot based game. Grind ur ass for shit loot then complain about the time wasted. It's kinda what to expect these days
@@Dramatik4Real damn my bad 😭
Please cover Path of Exile 2 release, I know I’ll be playing that in tandem with TL -TL taking a backseat though 1000%
Currently also my plan, unless I somehow fall in love with TL again in the next week
I literally complete my 2 t2 and 3 t1 on both my characters everyday. Doesnt take that long. Not a waste of time to me but it probally is if you suck, low cp, and cant do the mechanics.
@@dirtxpert9930 so if you get qued with all the people I get qued with - is what you’re saying.
@EhJay_Plays I get qued with all sorts but I don't hesitate to kick them out of party. They can waste soneone else's time not mine.
Also maybe stop going random queue if you want good party's there is a party board where you can ask for requirements!!
Everyone wants the random rewards but get upset that they don't get the dungeons they want and the party members they want
I could be wrong with this thinking but I feel the new dungeons aren't the issue at least not completely I'll agree the game needs a 911 polish the game us so buggy and broken right now but at the same time I feel like t1 was way too ez like most t1 dungeons if not all can be clear by 1 or 2 people depending classes so we got spoiled and t2 are way harder after we got used to the ez stuff. I don't like getting blues at all but my team and we can clear most of the t2 without incidents unless we faced a bugg and my teammates are higher cp than me am the lowest at 3k just last night and I've been clearing slaughter by 2 weeks now and Isle by 4- 5 days isles have some buggs that can be annoying but for the most part you can go around. My biggest issue is that for the last 5 days I've been kicked out of random dungeons for playing staff and wand even got insulted recently for it wich makes no sense if you ain't healing they kick you out and funny enough I don't play healer I play dps and I feel like way too many gamers are ignorant on what staff and wand can do.
@@robertobassatt3141 i’m all for having long grindy dungeons if they come with good rewards, but these rewards are okay at BEST, so if randoms are clearing them next week with ease I’m okay with it. But this first week, people can’t even q block ffs
@EhJay_Plays I hear you but that's the problem with randoms many are looking for a carry and t2 everyone needs to do their job also you can farm shadow harvester and wolf gear wich are a most for dps builds.
Shadow Harvester and Wolf are great but you’re currently spending hours to not get it, let alone get the trait you need! I’d wait a bit until people are better at the dungeons and try again, just my $0.02
tbh the randos I queued nowadays with are well knowledgeable abt the mechs
we could clear carmine like 10mins max with no comms, atleast on JP server
I qued yesterday with randoms and times were about 30-60 minutes so its definitely getting better
Good video, Subscribed.
@@carlric thank you!!
I think this video is a psyop to keep people out of t2s to keep AH prices high :) I'm only half kidding, randoms are hard with pickup groups and when people don't talk it's hard to get the experience you need in these dungeons to go through them fast, I have been just spamming Slaughter t2 cuz the mechanics are easy, are any of the other t2 s as easy as slaughter?
@@ryanhoekstra6000 i’d say Voidwastes is the second easiest, followed by Island of Terror, followed by Carmine Rage Island. I have videos on Voidwastes and Carmine this week if you want to see what they are like!
Totaly agree with you ! 2** NOT worth your time investment if your NOT in a pre-made. Lucent quicker / easier to farm and far less time investment by farming Open World or 1* Dungeons. Newer players may want to grind out the 2** piece they need, my suggestion because of the 'what seems to be' low drop rate for Purples in 2**, is just to farm the Coins. Essentially .... farm 1* / Open Dungeons and sell everything and go buy the 2** piece will take you way less time.
That’s kind of what I’ve been doing, but I just joined a new guild and we’ll see if I can get some actual good groups running, and is my opinion changes lol
so im 5 min into the video and the title is just a lie right?
@@gnoomlord ?
@@EhJay_Plays ?
Huge comment
True 2956 cp have no fun don't waste time. 1 star Dungeons are more fun, more money
Its sad because the dungeons are fun but not when people are so bad and it takes so much time for nothing…
do you blink?
People comment this all the time, I purposely tried to blink more but idk it’s how I record videos I guess Lol
u can just bypass whitch dung u gona get, i spamm valley of slaughter for the token chests...
it's rng. Mine is not that bad.
@@JohnAIDoe well it has a 30/70 chance for purples/blues, and then RNG for your trait… cool if you wanna gamble after spending 1+ hours per dungeon I guess. I value my time at least a little bit LOL
Wait, your not finishing them in 15 to 20 minutes? I am. 3.5k CP Spellblade. Rarley now do I find a shit group. I do agree with the blue shit. No reason we should be learning these mechs to get a dunce hat.😂
And in thinking about it, Carmine Rage Island can take 30 to 45. Everyone seems to have a problem with it or not know the mechs.
at this point i do it for the coins
what's with your eyes bro its like you're under itachi's control xD
@@jembemgaming41 LOL what do you mean? Some people say I don’t blink enough so now I try to blink more… is it something else? 🤣
its such a shame the game has gone this way so far its been great like really good at first you feel like the p2w isnt so bad which it really isnt until you need the really good drops ...but once you realise the loot drops dont drop and you get blues!!!! ..then like you say its like what the point in playing :/ im really sad and just going to wait for spear release play it for a day and then play POE2 :(
@@Jraffneck ngl kind of feeling that plan myself recently…
I don't think p2w is really a factor here. My 2.5k healer alt with almost only blue gears has been getting more purples than my 3.5k main. Also got the 12x token selection twice from doing random queues. Was able to fund my main's pvp gears.
Meh for me it is worth it, my rng is godly and I get a purple at a 2/3 rate
lucky!!!
100% true 😭
Valley of slaughter, the easiest one for me. But didn't get the helm I want from drops. So I farmed the shit out of it.
Valley of Slaughter definitely the easiest one
Cringe....😬T2 dungeons are worth and nice, and u get extra tokens.... soo u miss a lot if u dont do it
Okay 😬😬😬😬😬
kill gaitan 15 time, i get 2 shadow harvest boots its worth the profit indeed when u playing with the boys!. avoid fvcking random peoples!
I've killed him 5 times and got nothing LMAO, lucky you
Yeah its just you. That is why theres a pt. You just need to farm what you need thats all. Youre asking too much for a game thats over a month. And fyi its a free game. T2 is just a way for everyone to gear faster ( since some armors are world boss drops only) they just give f2p players time to chase those whales.
@@marklestergatchalian8431 I’m so baffled you came to the comments to comment and say it’s just me, and didn’t read any of the other 30+ comments agreeing with me LOL. Nothing is free btw, you pay with time! Thanks for the comment
Ur unlucky i gotten items worth 900 lucent around 2 of em
@@gex6616 damn that is lucky!! GG’s!
fkin tier 2 dungeons have bosses with so much HP it feels like a hassle, takes way too fkin long..
i stick to T1 as well, braindead ncsoft amazon.
disagree, skill issue dayo
Skill issue 100%, unfortunatly I can't solo T2 so....
I mean for solid guilds we are farming these DG,s everyday and still gearing allot of our team up. the World boss's before were a road block for f2p based guilds so they are a god send. for sure if you are a solo player i can imagine it is a very different ball game all together but you seem to be forgetting that thrones entire end game is structured around guild and pvp life. Join an active guild guys period
@@lostinfrance9830 Yeah I agree, lots of people don’t have a great guild though!
Im in one of the top 10 guilds on my server and the pvp is just more busy work that stops progression its not even really that good >.
@@Jraffneck yikes!!
@@Jraffneck I think we are one of the lucky servers in the EU where it has stayed pretty balanced guild wise so the pvp has been great fun and continues to be. I mean what are you even talking about "more busy work that stops progression" ? if a game feels like work to you I think maybe you should play something that you find more enjoyable lol. can't please them all /shrug
@@EhJay_Plays wdym "yikes" ? lmao how is it stopping progression? the whole game is split throughout the day so you can do whatever you want and if it is the conflict boss's they are going on about, that is one of the main challenges in the game haha I mean if folk keep turning up to conflicts in glass cannon builds and get one shot all the time I get it but that's on them for falling in the DPS must have highest dps gear trap and completely ignoring the defensive side of the gear first then minmax your dps after if you wana get into the pvp mix in Throne. was always the same in WoW, folk would complain about the pvp in the game and when you checked their gear their standing around in lfr raid gear and they wonder why they are having a hard time
I was waiting to hit max gear score first before i watch some videos so🤷♂️
I love it though
It is fun!!
dun worry bro I sell you lithos gj
Ill buy them when they're 70% off next month :)
Yea everything about this T2 update sucks. And peopel try to gatekeep and say the dungeons are "new". But lets be honest they just are just recycled versions. Also no new loot, they just put world boss items into these like WHY ? the "new" loot is also garbage. Most of the "new" purple loot was 20 lucent in the very 1st day. Putting the world boss items into these also reduced the value of these items and a lot of items and ruined the market.
When I say these criticisms people blame me saying I say these because I am in a top guild, but i was always against alliances. We even broke our allience willingly on our server because the competing alliance gave up. I just want the good of the game. All of my friends and guildies either quit or at the verge of quitting after this T2 update. And I am barely holding on.
The least they should have done is make t1-t2 tokens hybrid - do whichever u want. But noooo, now you have even MORE DP - chores- to do, yes they are chores at this point because they are not rewarding enough. Like I said, everyone i know is burnt out but playing too much is only one of the factors, this T2 update was NOT the straw that broke the camels back, but it was the biggest load of crap that broke it - excuse my language but it is what this is a flaming pile of crap.
You might say "dont do those dungeons than" as you recommended in your video, but then you feel you are left behind and when you feel that way you are 10x more likely to quit because you think you cant catch up - dont get me wrong I agree with almost everything you said
have to agree, barely holding on... POE 2 looking like a snack rn
@@EhJay_Plays yea PoE is great, but I am afraid getting back into PoE, I think if I stop playing TL, I ll just wait around for ArcheAge 2 whenever that comes out
i think my dude u are just unlucky, i was able to craft the junobote pants in just 4 days. I have done more than 4k Lucent with the drops. I have great power and i have learned the mechs and i do these dungeons on the first attempt. I think your whole argument is so pooooooor, u were just unlucky. And let me tell u 15 times is nothing.. i mean u cannot be afried of the grinding on a MMO... u are just too noob to do this dungeons efficiently xD... Also u can craft the trait stones a lot easier... Btw i have 500 hours of play.. so i think i have more experience than u ,... and let me tell u this is the best way to get the junobote pants (mandatory for PVP)
Okay awesome, thanks for the comment! :D
If u complaining with the basic 2 star dungeon, then u won't have a chance to do the challenge mode for rune farming. I always solo q the 2 star dungeon and if there ppl who doesn't know how to do mech, we just kick them and random queue again or even leave the dungeon. Just get better, u can't always rely on other.
And gears are matter! full equip no traits vs full equip with full traits really matter, u get those offensive stat like skill damage boost and defensive stat like skill damage resistance will help u out clearing faster or sustain some of the attack.
For those new players out there please do watch the guide before entering the dungeon, u don't want to waste your time and your teammates. If u keep messed up with mechanic then u are not ready to do this kind of 2 star dungeon.
You do them for the unlockstones
@@EhJay_PlaysIncrease CP if you want better team mates overall, even doing Carmine I only take 20 minutes Max to clear it, not to mention the amount of unlockstones you get is one of your highest unlockstones income, it should not be taken lightly.
@@EhJay_Plays the value of an unlockstone is way more than you think, once you have enough lucent for a band of universal power (obviously archboss weps are a myth to obtain) the ability to save 6k lucent per trait line with unlock stones is so worth it, especially to prepare for when t2 gear comes out, because weapons are not going to be 100 unlockstones per line anymore, its all doubled, 200, per line. so doing 2 star dungeons for the coins should be done horizontal to get these unlockstones, because you also will be getting them from the t1 pouches so 8 unlockstones for running every dungeon once? dont forget you get the chance for x12 coins in t2. people should not even be buying the chest for gears to litho and sell, they should save for unlockstones completely, we are going to need far too many to save SO much lucent (if you want to save 6k+ lucent JUST from band of universal power numbers)
the game is so Zzzz
POE 2 coming soon
May be if the players will start focusing more on mechanics instead of reviewing encounter soundtrack, then the runs will take under 20 minutes and it will stop to be that frustrating for them.
@@N3crom damn good idea :D
Sounds like you need to give up mate, no point in playing a game you don't enjoy
Damn you say one thing negative and everyone jumps to the wildest conclusions lol
2000 noobs crying alone ------ 2024 noobs crying in video