Tarp Chat & Tutorial PART 3...Continuous Ridgeline, Snakeskins & Flaps
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- There is more to pitching a tarp than one would think....just keep running into things to show.
Hope this is helping with tarp pitching and getting out into the piney woods.
Carry forth and Whoooooo Buddy)))))
Shug
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I've been tarping since I was a scout (scoutmaster now). I may have to quote you, this quote seems so appropriate for many things I do. "It's fun, it's dorky and people will mock you for it."
Thanks for keeping sector 7 secure
Tarping is misunderstood. Represent!
7 years. I first watched this 7 years ago. Every time I tie a slippery half-hitch, I'm singing that song in my head. Every time.
I do so love that you do that...
@@shugemery my son, now 7 months, will learn that song, and "...You have tied it incorrectly, and you will fall. You have tied it incorrectly, and you will fall..."
The good ol' trucker's hitch and other great tips. Excellent vid as usual.
Wolf's Airsoft Thankee feller.
Funny yet informative, yet another Shuggity Shug Shug production. Thanks
I always hit the "like" button before your videos even start. Why wait until it ends? They are all great.
Dude I'm a newbie wish found your channel months back, full of helpful tips 👍
Enjoy the hammock quest. Thankee and Whooooo Buddy))))
Again - GREAT informational video Shug (in the first person)
For many of us, it's this type of basic video we need to "make it happen" and get the questions answered.
Thankeeeeeeee
I aim to inspire.....
How many times a day do your neighbors hear "Whooooo Buddy!"? :-)
Gotta Love this Guy -
Things get simpler with wisdom...
I thankee.
Porch mode is frigging awesome. I've recently got a hammock and I'm still finding my way with it and evolving my setup. When I took it out to test sleeping in it, I set up the tarp (just a cheap 8'x10' polytarp) in porch mode with the prevailing wind at my back, sat in the hammock to relax and to boil water for my coffee and then went to sleep in the hammock. It rained in the night and I didn't get any water coming in from any direction. And it was so nice to get up in the morning and not have to crawl out of a tent onto soaking wet ground!
Your sequence for tarping is like we were always taught for tents - peg out the ground shape first, then get your poles set then adjust your lines.
Personally, I use continuous ridgeline and prussik knots - I'm too lazy to adjust the ends of the hammock any other way.
Watching this, I can see I'm going to have to get myself some S-biners - they're just too damned useful for words! And snake skins or something similar - definitely got to get me some of those!
My polytarp had 2 grommets on each side in addition to the corners and I had guy ropes already tied into them in case I had to peg them down and move the corners in to block off an end due to shifting wind/rain (having watched some of your videos in the past) - didn't end up needing to on that occasion, but I'm going to continue that practice, just in case...
Whooooo Buddy))))
@@shugemery Keep up the great work, mate. Love your videos.
Another great attempt at clarifying the wonderful world of tarps according to Shug! Well done my man!
It is my calling)))))
Your videos are very informative, educational and hilariously entertaining! Thank you!
I appreciate that. Just home from a long backpack trip.
I'm going to adapt a line from one of my favorite movies:
"Sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about Shug here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Shug, on TH-cam."
Thank you sir for all this knowledge.
North Country Outdoor Guys Your comment made my week......
Lol. I'm glad. It came to mind when watching your vids.
THESE ARE THE BEST VIDEOS ON TARPS AND HAMMOCKS ON TH-cam.....Thank you so much for taking the time to do these great videos. I hope you know how much they are appreciated by all your subscribers. I backpacked 45 years ago and want to get back into it now in my senior years. You've convinced me to go with hammocks. I've learned so much by watching these. Want to do porch mode in the rain in the piney woods. Gonna do it. Beginning to get my stuff together.
+RS Marett Hope you get out soonest!
You're the man, Shug! Entertaining, humorous, informative and enjoyable, as always! Keep doing what you do well. :)
Gotta keep it fun....because it is fun.
Dude you are unique, if other people did this in this way they would look forced and awkward. You, sir, make it look cool, like an entertaining uncle.
funnygazman19 Thanks Nephew.......old Unk appreciates the thought.
Yep I watched this again and picked up a tip or how to I missed the first time. Thanks for your time.
Glad to hear that.
great informative video. always enjoy your videos. really like the great definition on your camera showing a few mosquitos flying around. Just got back from a fishing trip on Rainy Lake. My son and I hammock camped there and have been using the hammocks in the boundary waters on our annual fishing trips there as well.
Always a pleasure watching your videos. Just wanted to mention, you could also do the continuous ridge line under the tarp. Thats how I set mine, that way the weight of the wet tarp and wind blowing is distributed across the tarp ridge, and not putting all the pressure on the ends. Keep up the great videos man. Wooooo Buddy!
Many do go under the tarp. Sometimes with a cat cut ridge line it is better to go over as you get a better pitch with a cat cut ridge. Carry forth!
I've had the continuous ridge line above my tarp, but with a regular trail tarp the grommets are not anchored in the material as well as your tarp. On a windy day, the grommet connected to my pressix (sp?) knot, pulled out of the tarp. To finish out the week, I would put a rock in the torn out area and connected it to my sliding knot, but ran the ridge line under the tarp in hopes that it would give more support in windy conditions. But as it turns out on the rest of the trip, there wasn't any wind compared to the first night. But that rock sure did a good job! And with the ridge line under the tarp, I could keep the sides pulled down tight without the strain on that grommet at the ridge line. This was a great video. I like that Trucker's knot. I always just tied the loop into a permanent knot, but that makes it be in a place that may not be suitable on the next tree. Man Shug, you have some good information to digest here.
Good job on jerry rigging the tarp in the field......carry forth.
thats just a bunch of great info there shug.. thanks
Your videos are awesome! Keep em coming!
Thankee.
Haven't hammocked yet and your tutorials are helping me to realize I have no excuse not to try it. Thanks man! also I plan to work this phrase into one of my YT vids! "It's fun, and it's dorky, and people will mock you for it" :P
Whooooo Buddy))))
I watched so many of shugs tarp videos I felt like a pro the first time I went out.
+Don Milligan Well did you ever get a hammock?
@@remyllebeau77 Yes I did, a few in fact, I started out with a Moskito Kakoon from Byers, then purchased a BIAS "butt in a sling" and even made one using inspiration from a youtube video. it ended up splitting because I didn't sew a hem, I was trying to make a super ultra light hammock.
@@hike2bhuman110 Oh okay. I just have an EL-Cheapo Ridge Outdoor hammock. I thought about trying some DIY stuff, but it seems pretty daunting.
Anudder right goodie there Shugrow! Good stuff!
I do so thankee fine Sir
An old carpet installer from Steelecreek thanks you. Hammock camping is much more enjoyable for people with back pain. Not ready for the gorge yet, but maybe some day.
Kneeing those edges. I have romped Steelecreek. Grew up in Charlotte...West Side.
These "tarp" videos are great. I tell boyscouts to watch your videos, and I always tell new hammock hangers to watch you...thanks for the great instructional sessions....
Always a pleasure to see your videos, fun, informative, good stuff, nice guy.
Thank you loyal friend.
Whoooooo Buddy))))
really enjoy learning from your Videos. Keep them coming
wink hvac Yessir))))
wink hvac yep...those truckers hitches , half hitches and prussiks are pretty much essential to learn hammocking .
carl krebs and , actually...a lotta stuff in life . nothin like being a knothead
Absolutely outstanding!!! 😄😄😄
Whooooooo Buddy)))))
"Hey mom
I think i seen one ofthemthere..."
Hammmmmaccccherrrrs
Dr. Shug:
Another great informative vid
Way secure... in sector banzai
They are out there....comfortable and groggy.
love the new endings jack
My buddy Hawkeye did that for me. He is a whiz.
Hey shug! You should check out the klemheist knot. Its very similar to the prusisk but its much easier to set up and has more holding power under load.
It is a great not...and fun to say.
Who'da thunk tarp chat could be so fun! Really enjoying this series Shug. Thanks buddy!
Again Shug, Another excellent tutorial & entertainment galore! My father was a navy man and was always teaching us kids knots & knot lore!! Whooo buddy!!
+Chuck Nicholas The Navy life was fun as a kid.
Hey shug just found you and subed very informative and funny.
Whooooo Buddy))))
Ham-mocker, 5 wraps and a bite. Now I'm hungry. Eat to camp, camp to eat.
Righto~~~
Awesome tutorials! Thanks!
+GO! Outfitters Mucho appreciato.....
Really appreciate the knot-centric attention. Very helpful for the beginner. Thanks
Y'elcome feller.
Thanks Shug another great video!
My pleasure.
Great video!
Thankee.
I use shock cord with S-biners on my doors. They don't get staked, but clipped to the opposite side.
That'll work!
Some people are born brilliant teachers! You shuggy shugerson hammocker are###1! Thankyou man!
I do kinda like teaching. Coming from a B- student!
shugemery you my friend rock shop!
Great series, thanks!
Shug ever try Derek's continuous ridge line method? Continuous Ridge Line for a Tarp
Not exactly but the principal is the same.
Thanks once again for sharing knowledge and experience.
Good vid, Cheers
My pleasure....
I thank you.
Winter Trekker
Shug, all of your stuff is hugely helpful to this new "Hanger", but something that keeps popping up in my melon.... how do snakeskins influence water running in when it rains? I'm thinking if I push my snakeskins back enough from a water break, I should be OK. What say you? Thanks, man!
+Don McCasland They have never effected that. They end up out on the lines so it makes no difference.
"It's fun, and it's dorky" lol
Greg Dale Like a lot of things I pursue!
One of the things that mystified me when I first started using the trucker's hitch was that the loop/slippery half hitch kept collapsing and grabbing the line that goes through it. It's important, when doing something like a continuous ridgeline, to grab the loop from the tree side, not the the hammock side. That will solve the collapsing issue. If you are using a slippery half hitch to attach your guylines to your stakes, grab the loop from the tarp side. None of this is rocket science, but it's a small detail that I don't see covered much. (Maybe I'm the only one that's ever messed it up! :-D )
I use a marlinspike hitch on my stakes. The truckers can be tricky but best just to get out and tie them and learn that way. Knots are a fun science for sure. Thanks.
Shug, Learning alot from YOU and that book you recommended on Hammocking. I particularly like how you do your ridge line using the dutchware WASPS so will try them. I DO also want to try a 'simple' continuous ridge line. Would you say that the one you show on THIS video would be the one to try 'in case' I might like that. But I think I'll use the ones with the wasps. WHEN making a Prusik knot will the warbonnet rope work for both the Prusik AND the guyline it goes on, so it will slide well yet hold??
It will. I ditched using a continuous ridgeline for tarps. But worth trying for you. I like 2 separate lines coming off the ends.
th-cam.com/video/mIgeO186g-4/w-d-xo.html
Yes on the prussic. Give it a few wraps.
This is THE Book.......theultimatehang.com
@@shugemery APPRECIATE your quick reply. I just now took a piece of 16 foot warbonnet guy line, attached a Dutchware Fleaz to the very end of it, took it around the first tree and hooked the line to it, ran it to the far tree, did a truckers hitch. That's the continuous ridge line, right. I have two Prusiks on the line, one on each end, with another Fleaz on the Prusik loops. I could attach my tarp O Rings to those Fleaz and pull the prusiks tight and adjust tarp over hammock THAT way. IS THAT kind of how it's done -IF I choose to use the continuous ridge line using warbonnet's line and those pieces of hardware (other hardware could be used to.)?
Thanks. Asking for confirmation. Look forward to viewing the videos on the shock cord you passed on. Thanks again.
There are many ways to do it....th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=continuous+ridgeline+for+tarps
If it works for you then there you go. You will end up fiddling with it and find what you like.
Hey, since you're going on a trip soon, it's always fun when you do those trip, load out videos. Just a thought :)
Thanks for the info shug put it in porch mode set back and fly a plane from there.
Sounds fun
Just found your channel sir and I'm so grateful I did!
Whoooooo Buddy))))
Two simple knots in one video? I think I can even remember them :) That's some good edumacation Shug
Knots on!
Hey Shug, What do you think about ENO? I've never heard you mention their products but they seem like they're a pretty decent one stop shop for tarps and hammocks.
Good hammocks but never owned any. I have felt the tarp...kinda heavy. lighter options out there. Yes...they are shelf ready and that is a huge plus.
It has taken me a while to get this tarp thing but I believe I am catching on. The tarp is the smallest, lightest quickest and most mobile from of shelter known to man. Is that it?
I guess I should add pound for pound the most expensive as well :) I never wanted one but you are sorely tempting me with these exhaustive tuts.
There will more than likely be one more part just showing my 4 tarps.
#tarplife Thanks for what you do!! Not sure which vid, but you've kept my skinny butt warm more than a few cold nights (jacket-foot box, sleep-in beanie, etc.) The tips, I can't count?!
A Prussic knot, from Prussia, is an entirely different beast than a Prusik knot, invented by Joe Prusik.
Is that fencepost you’re hanging off braced in the rear in any way? A single fencepost seems on the weak side to me for hanging. Or is it anchored into a bucket of concrete in the ground? That’d help.
Then I go with Joe!
Yes the fence is braced and set 4 feet in ground in cement. Been hanging on it since 2007. Still holding.
shugemery 4 feet! Jesus. Hurricane-proof build!
It must be getting late ... man I think I saw a rooster.
Mr. Shug,
Thank you for your videos which are so helpful and easy to follow along with. I sat here with paracord and practice the knots and hitches that you demonstrated. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge. I always check out your links that you provide as well.
Thanks again!!
Frank N Stein
Harley Rider Glad the videos are of some value. Whoooo Buddy)))))
Any one know of good tarp ridgeline cordage. Used paracord, but when wet slip knot friction wares it out fast. post a link to sellers please. Thanx ya all...
....www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/product/tarp-guyline-yellow/
dutchwaregear.com/product/zing-it-or-lash-it/
Subbed for the singing.
I am bowing here....
Shug, do you always use an under quilt? Hiked 3 days on the OHT and froze w/o one this spring.
I just want to say thank you very much for your videos. It's always nice to listen to someone that knows from experience I'm just getting into Hammacking for a backpacking experience.. I'm the first one to ask questions, because I don't like to be sorry been there done that too old for that stuff anymore. So thank you again and please make more videos of whatever you can possibly think.. One question I do have what do you think is the best tarp system around for overall coverage and protection.
Well I have a few tarps but I never believe there is a best, just the one you get dailed in and trust depending on conditions. The Warbonnet Superfly is a great all-round tarp for hammocks. www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/product-category/tarps/
Though you can google "hammock tarps" and find an array.
Oh and love you vlogs by the way :-)
I thankee.
Snakes scare me, is there an alternate to using their skins? I got bit once and now they horrify me! :-D
Hi Shug, how do you stop water running down your hammock line?
This might be the most informative video on youtube.
Could you do a brief video on tarp materials (since there seem to be quite a few) and on the support pole that you have shown before.
You may find some of that info going through my tarp videos...cuben, sil and spinntex. th-cam.com/play/PL851BCD042A98F269.html
I plan to show my tarps in a new video upcoming.
***** Well thankee kindly.
Shug, Just wanted to say you are "alright" and "not right" at the same time. :)Outstanding video. Thanks for the time and effort extruded from you life, again.
Haaaa....I love that.
At 6:44 you can see a mosquito learning how to make a truckers hitch.
That skeeter was stink-eying me!
What are you using for cordage in this video?
+Amy Sandhu this....www.tttrailgear.com/spectra-no-tangle-guy-line/
Thanks!
Sad to report, the maker of the snakeskins listed above went out of business. According to the home page: "SEPT 2020: ATTENTION! Kat owner of Mountaingoat hats & Goods has gone out of business at this time due to fires in California. MountainGoat Hats & Goods store is a small cottage industry, comprised of one woman and occasionally her daughter. All products are made in this little home in the Santa Cruz mountains."
I got a hat from her years ago and still have it. Sad she had to close shop.
Hey Shug, Did you ever smash yer right hitch'n finger? Now a serious inquiry, i'm from Colorado, and I know you hang in Minnesota, and in the Linville Gorge, and other places. Have/How do you hang in Evergreens? Do the boughs mess with your set up?
Have to find the ones that will work or some suitable trees.
Hi Shug. Just got back from a weekend using my warbonnet XLC blackbird hammock and thunderbird tarp. I forgot and left one side up in porch mode using trekking poles and it rained in the night. There wasn't enough of a slope, so a HUGE pool of water collected and pulled the peg right out of the ground.
I get disappointed pretty easily. I shouldn't. I have some nice gear, but am trying to LEARN as I go.
Question: Currently I use about a piece of 4 inch diameter heavy shock cord on each of the 4 tie down points. The shock cord is just a continuous on the black triangle tarp tie down points and I attach 8 feet pieces of the yellow warbonnet guyline to it. DO YOU think this is a good idea and is there another better way? I am hoping to accomplish two things doing this:
1. Prevent the material from ripping in winds, and
2. If the material gets wet in a rainy night and gets loose, the elastic cordage would keep the tarp taught.
Check the tensioners in this video th-cam.com/video/4GQPY5BuyPI/w-d-xo.html
Easy to do and I use them on all my tarps. Also in rain have one end of porch lower. Only way to learn is to experience it. You are doing good so don't let it bum you out. Now you know!
th-cam.com/video/DAYLi_mDzPI/w-d-xo.html
I like and agree with your recommendation to stake out corners loosely, before trying to erect poles. Much easier.
Next time you try the continuous ridge line, take advantage of the fact that it is continuous. By rigging the tarp UNDER the ridge line, you used it as though it was just two, short chunks of rope on the ends of the tarp. No wonder you didn’t like it. You neglected using the advantage of the central part. When you do that, the tarp sags lower, even though it is being unnecessarily subjected to too much tension.
Try using a continuous ridge line, with the tarp OVER the line. Then pull out the prussic knots to just snugly stretch the tarp. It’s a different ball game then. I think you’ll smile with satisfaction.
When you take down the tarp, leave it on the ridge line when putting it in the stuff sack. Less work for setting up and breaking camp. And a more rugged setup.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
I've tried all that stuff but just prefer two lines off of the to ridge line ends. Just suits me and always works. I do/did lot of stuff to experiment and filmed it but don't film everything I try.
Thinks continually morph as times goes.....
"Stuff sack"...stuff it in. It's called a stuff sack for a reason.
Mankato native here, I do have one excuse for not getting out in my hammock. Florida, it's not even June yet and we are supposed to be at 95° plus by next week. Time to figure out how to hang my hammock in my spare bedroom. 😉
Yessir...just got back from beach in FL. I loved it.
Hey Shug, another great demo. I just can't get enough of your videos. I have a question on something else, I hope that it doesn't upset you and the other viewers.
You did a video comparing your Ohm vs Gorilla but I don't recall a video of it on the trail. I have a Circuit and want a smaller pack, have you used the Gorilla on the trail? If so how does it compare to the Ohm? Thanks for any help.
I used the Gorilla on this trip....th-cam.com/video/25ga6ZO9TF8/w-d-xo.html
I prefer my old OHM though. Sentimental and loyal.
Great, I had seen that one but forgotten about it. Thanks for the help.
Shug! I don't know how many times I have watched this video but you crack me up! :) Just got my dream hammock sparrow and am thinking about buying the winter dream tarp by UGQ, what's your thoughts? Also what size guy lines do you use for your stake outs?
Never used any UGQ stuff but imagine it fares well.
I use 1.75 Spectra or 1.75mm single braid dyneema. ~400 lbs. break strength
www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/product/tarp-guyline-yellow/
Is the continuous ridge line always attached to the tarp? Or do you set the line then attach the tarp after?
Not always. Can be done either way.
💜 tarp talk and have my SuperPhly nearly perfected but was debating trying some ridge line bling and or a continuous ridge line? You stated in this video that you do not use a continual ridge line, is this still true? What do you use for bling and or what would you suggest for a superfly ridge line and set up! Thanks Shug...whoooo buddy!!!
I use two seperate lines from tarp ends. Bling or no bling...personal choice. Should all be in one of the 3 videos....
Shug, have you had an experiences with a so called "Bigfoot". And what is your stance on wether theyre real or not?
www.bigfootbag.com/
Yes...he ran from me! They never seem to hurt anybody.....
Hi mate great vid as always I hugely admire you n followed for years thanks for everything
Have you any advice on DIY adhesive (no sew) tie outs? I'd sew grossgrain to the silnylon circular patch I've cut but said patch is purchased self adhesive for tears and there's no advice on how to iron it on either which is intimidating, apparently that makes it far stronger. Sewing to my tarp is also intimidating hence why I won't at least initially, it's a mid tie out silnylon DD superlight tarp
I honestly don't trust a sew on patch to hold a ties out. Sew it then seam seal it in and out. Ties outs take a lot of pressure holding a tarp tight and blowing wind and all. Could always try something like this....dutchwaregear.com/product/clip-on-tarp-pull-outs/
shug, I've got a 2 day trip planned with buds on the AT next weekend. My tarp is a Noah's 9 x9. If I hang her diagonally over an 11 footer, is this just foolish?
Test it first to see if you have enough coverage on the ends. If no rain...then you should be OK but some hammock may be exposed.
Did your tarp come with D rings installed or did you attach them yourself? I've got two tarps that only have loops - no rings attached. Also, what size cord have you used in this video?
I made that tarp and added the d-rings. The cord is 1.75 spectra or dyneema
Shug, I have 1 stupid question, if there were snake skins on the ends of the tarp, (which I brought my 1st pair) do you pack the continuous ridge line in with the snake skin, thank you !!
Always had the continuous ridge line packed right in the skin with the tarp.
Enjoy the vids. Snake skins: Cut the tie from the middle of luffah you get a tube just right slide the tarp into while its still up. Sort wrap up the sides around the ridgeline ,slide one end of the tarp thru the luffah think elephant condom, tarp will fit inside ready for packing.
Lotta folks will like that one.
Im Just getting into hammock camping.
Just last week was my second trip to the superior national forest solo.
4 days from my kayak.
I love it but solo is a little scary lol.
Solo is a required taste. Love it.
ROFL good job Shug and don't be ashamed I do the same thing. Regret it some time but I do it... Keep having fun
I'll get therapy....
Where do I find your guy line vid?what's with that shock cord on the guy line?slick I say....
I use this now.....www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/product/tarp-guyline-yellow/
Cool vid
Thank you.
If you were going to buy a new tarp that would work for a hammock or as a ground shelter, what size would you buy based on your experiences?
I love the one I have. 11 foot ridge line.......6 to 8 feet wide. Check the Warbonnet Superfly tarp.
When using the continuous ridge-line, why do you place the tarp underneath the ridge-line instead of hanging overtop of it for the length of the tarp?
It its a different technique. I don't ever use a ridgeline as I always just go off the the two ends of the trap. My preferred style.
dutchwaregear.com/product/continuous-ridgeline/#type-and-color
okay, peps for all of you that use SnakeSkins...what do you do with your suspension when you are packing up your gear.
I leave it right on the tarp.
What are your thoughts on the continual ridgeline running under the tarp? I have a bug net that hooks to the ridgeline so I need something under the tarp. Would you suggest running the line under or just having a piece of line loosely hanging from the D-rings and tie the tarp off from the D-rings?
I never do the ridgeline under tarp but a few of my friends do so if that is going to help with your bugnet then have at it. No rules.....hang that tarp as you see fit.
Shug, does your wife ever look out the back window, shake her head, and think my husbands out there talking to his camera again?
Yes....yes she does.
Mucho gracias from Cali for niaa! Love the woods and the Aeroplane! had one of those dog gone things when I was a kid.
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
Don't ever say "good buddy" on the radio to truckers. It means you're gay looking for a good buddy. 🤣
Live and Learn...
What are you stitching the tarps with? And as far as the tarp material goes, I did not see a supply for just the raw material. I love the design of the tarp that you have, but all the times that I see for purchase on the market seem to be more that I want to spend. Yes, I am super cheap
I use Gutterman nylon thread. Tarp material link is in the description box below video.
I see why you don't like the continuous ridge line thing shug, it's just a lot of more hassle than just tying straight to the tree. All those extra time spent on extra knots and tiny little knot that takes a lot of time and patience. Ha!
+reinhartmenken I feel ya'
SHUG CAN YOU TENT CAMP FOR US THAT ARE TREE CHALLENGED?TOOK MY FANCY RAINPRROOF MTN,HARDWEAR TENT TO THR REDWOODS AND SLEPT IN A INCH A RAIN HELP..ALL CLEAR IN SECTOR 8 MAN OUGHT NOT LAY WITH ANOTHER MAN AHHHHRITE DEN MMMMMHHHHMMMM
Have not tented since I got a hammock...so......probably not!