The New Leatherman Charge Plus - Worth it?
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I'm an electrician, and use my charge daily for work purposes.
I get what you're saying regarding the replaceable cutters, I think their usefulness is going to vary depending on the person.
I personally use the wire cutters daily, so for me, the ability to replace them as needed is much more valuable than it would be for someone who doesn't use them. In fact I actually bought 3 sets of replacement blades at the time of the Charge purchase, and so I have the ability to change them instantly, as needed, with no waiting, and have in fact done so once already.
Value is in the eye of the beholder. :)
Have you noticed that the gut hook on the serrated blade is great for pulling back the insulation cover of wiring?
You make a really fair point on those replaceable cutters, I hadn't thought about it like that before.
Ive been so much into preparedness, that I simply bought an extra pair and put em in the sheath so I wouldn't be SOL in any particular moment, *but* it never occurred to me that I cant actually warranty that part anymore.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious for me haha.
One difference you didn’t mention between the Wave and Charge is that the action opening the outside tools is a lot nicer... the Wave (which I love, and currently have 3 of, and have lost two more) only has pivot washers on the ‘body’ side of the two blades, saw and file, whereas the charge tools have phosphor bronze washers on both sides of those tools. It feels like a real silly omission on the Wave, but I guess that’s one more way to differentiate it from the ‘luxury’ Charge line.
Anyway, in the USA the price difference is currently $34 (shipped) between the Wave+ and the Charge+ and I think the upgraded blade steel is 100% worth that price, aside from any other differences.
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Love the variation of Advanced Knife Bros ferro rod technique
brian miller hes probably my main inspiration as a survival expert
Replaceable wire stripper blades, good steel on the blade and a great driver with multiple bits to choose from. This is hands down one of the best multi tools on the market. Other companies sacrifice on the steel quality which makes this a winner.
Totally worth getting the plus. Leathermans cable cutters are way to soft. Even cutting a fishhook will damage it and thats totally in line with what I would concider expected usage for us outdoorsy types. The dowside is that the replacable cutters slightly interferes with the nut-grabbing capabilities of the tool - and I know how much you lot love grabbing nuts.
Personally, I already own a Surge and a Signal so I likely wont bother uppgrading my Charge TTi to a Plus model. And to be honest, aside from being slightly more bulky than the Wave the Surge is superior in every way. Its got proper scissors, an awl and the ability to run bosch t-shank stick saw blades to cut anything you can possibly imagine. Add beefier pliers, replacable cutters and that "bulk" is totally worth it.
"Even cutting a fishhook"... You say "even", like fish hooks were soft material by default? No, got to know materials. No tool steels, no stones, no springs, no hardened stuff. Anything from copper to carbonless iron is ok. If the material is harder than the plier itself, then it results damage. Go slow testing and turn the cutted piece to cut from other sides too if it's thick or feels too hard. Consider if twisting it with the plier head would snap it in half rather than cutting action.
@@Heikki_Finland I explain quite plainly what I mean with "even cutting a fishing hook" and it is not a reference to hardness but rather what is common and expected usage for an outdoors oriented user. There are certainly other common materials that you'd want to cut that are to hard, like high carbon machine screws. I will also say that the vanilla pliers are not without advantage because the 154cm cutters does impair the tools ability to grab on to certain sizes of nuts, bolts and such. My interest in multitools actually derrives in part from a degree in engineering so I dont actually need the lecture :)
This is my favorite intro. Keeps getting better.
Informative and Entertaining! Great point about the cutter inserts.
I’m in the ‘it’s not worth it’ camp. Multitools are not meant to be main tools. Surely someone who needs a knife and / or pliers for harder use has those tools. If they break or get lost, then the Leatherman is there to save your 🥓.
As you said, 50 cuts of sisal is a lot of edc tasks (and even then, it’s not so dull as to render it useless).
I've always thought the diamond file was one of the best tools in the leatherman selection. Honestly I think it makes sense to include it on all of LM's large multitools instead of one of the file options.
I bought the Leatherman Charge TTI (with the S30v blade) about a year ago just to piss off my son who has the Wave. He uses his Wave all the time and I've yet to use mine even once...so the joke is on me!!!
Give it to him....
Trade him for his.
It’s nice to see a multi tool video opening like a dog channel. Like it!
I find the can/bottle opener to be useful in puncturing most empty aerosol cans before throwing them into the trash.
Buy car key OR buy equal priced Leatherman to do a ghetto repair of car keys. Decisions, decisions ...
Oh man, can you please, please make an additional video with just the portion when you "start a fire leatherman style" comedy gold man!
As a collector, its a must have. As a user you are correct on the wave.
I just ordered a customized Charge+, and can’t wait.
I enjoy your videos. I think this is one of your best reviews by far!
At one time, I had nearly every Leatherman Charge they ever made. Quite a few variations of the Charge Ti, XTi, TTi, AL and ALX. I had nearly 20 of them. I still have quite a few Charge’s but u agree the Wave is by far the best value. I actually think the Wave is stronger by design because you don’t have Al or Ti scales, just solid bend over steel.
For us knife guys, the Wave is more than adequate. The knife blades on my tools and are quite literally beater blades. Premium steel isn’t necessary.
Completely agree with your opinion for the Australian Market however in the US the wave plus costs $100 and the charge plus with a leather sheath can be had for about $114... In my opinion that is definitely worth it!
A charge tti in a retail store in Australia is anywhere between $300 - $400.
Use JB Weld on your car key. I did on my Lexus key for 10 years and it never failed. I changed the battery 2-3 times and it would pop loose with a good knife if you have one laying around. Saved me $350 and sold the car last year
I used shrink warp and it worked well
A feature compare of the various Charge models would have been helpful. I think there are 3 now: this one, the basic Charge, and the Charge Ti.
The "cutting hook" is also meant to be a gutting tool.
It's perfect for getting under tight zip ties and cutting them as well
I am an over the road truck driver that lives off of canned goods and I use my can opener on my Super Tool 300 every day.
300 nice tool
Great video. I was thinking the same thing about the replaceable cutter blades. But then I realized that it would cost me $25 to ship the tool to get fixed so the price is about the same but at least I don't have to wait for it to be fixed.
I always thought it's better to have replacement cutter blades. Why ship the whole thing off if I can fix it myself?
Also, Cold Steel should definitely make a freaking multi-tool! That would be absolutely awesome... I don't know why Cold Steel would be watching this video but if they do they better do that!
EDC with Aaron that would be amazing
My charge alx finally snapped the pliers, right at the crimper. I'm sad that I won't have the 2x bit holders, but excited to have Needle nose pliers with the replaceable wire cutters, as well as scissors. I feel the small inconvenience of only having one bit set loaded and ready instead of two is going to be worth the sacrifice for scissors. The flat blade was the most common bit to be in the holder anyway, and the + has one of those too. So long charge ALX! you were great to have by my side for 5 years!
Finally, a multi-tool review in my feed. Thanks, great job.
Love leatherman I broke my original charge and thay just sent me the charge + best Multi tool company on the market well done 👏 leatherman
Fine job as usual! I always go to your vids for multi-tools. Thx
That’s so funny you were talking about not worrying about the blade steel. I carry a Spyderco Endura S 30 V for knife use and an 80s Leatherman for everything else
Very thorough, but also funny video. That Survival Expert Mode, cracked me up :D
You are the first one to talk about lost strength due to those replaceable wire cutters. I recently bought a Wave and while that option was available to me, i chose to buy the older model for that reason. I know how to use tools properly and am sure i don't need to replace my wire cutters anyway. Even if the new model didn't break, who knows, it may not be as rigid in some cases when you really press and twist the pliers. Less parts = less hassle. By the way, what's up with those screws holding things together? Looks more like rivets? More trouble to diy tinkerers.
Good review mate. It would appear to be a charge AL with a gut hook on the serrated blade and changeable wire cutters?
I own a charge AL and I just found out from leathermans that if my wire cutters "should" become jammed, they would replace it with one of these. Sweeeet.
EDIT. I would say it was 100% for leatherman having the replaceable wire cutters, like you mention, no more warranty repairs for this common problem and gives them the ability to make money selling the blades but for me it is actually more convenient.
Now I am happy in the knowledge that when I get the Charge + I will buy a couple of sets of extra wire cutters and pack them into my B.O.B altogether, in case I am away from the possibility of a warranty repair. That had been my only gripe with these tools, if you push the cutters too hard then the pliers start to stick and then fold when you try and open them up so to speak.
You can't knock them for innovation, smart guys over there. Now if they would just improve the metal file, lose the small scissors and serrated blade and add the Surge Scissors. OH and add an awl I would be a happy man! Can't have it AWL I guess lol!
PS Mate. Have a look at Woniya's Surge that leatherman modified for her.
th-cam.com/video/0-Jk-rc0OLM/w-d-xo.html
She was runner up on Season 6 survivor. That Surge is perfect for Bushcraft and gives me some serious multitool envy!
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6:00 you had me their 😂😂😂
last night i tried to cut a couch spring with my old leatherman supertool - it has the same replaceable 154cm cutters. i couldn't get through the spring because at max hand strength (and pain threshold) the spring was just too tough; only cut in 'bout .5mm on each side. anyways, the little 154cm inserts were unscathed afterward with just a barely-visible hint of surface deformation. so, there's my data point on that feature.
don't know wtf that spring was made out of - 1075 or something? tougher than nails, whatever it was. that old supertool is not fun to squeeze down on without gloves.
Put it in a vise.
Love the Charge AL And Charge Ti (not found of the crimper on the T1s pliers)
What the heck do you work with, seing compund fractures and what not? The hook-thing is one of my used features at work (foreman/engineer at a construction company) because it works great at cutting zipties that are pulled tight. When you use a knife there is always the risk of using force and pushing the knife into something you don't intend to such as metal, hands or other fragile materials. Pliers, specially the ones on the Leatherman, is hard to get close enough to cut a pulled down zipties.
Dont forget the bits it comes with
I do like the new replaceable cutters, but they aren't really as godsend as some make them to be, I've literally beat my Leatherman fuse for years and damaged the cutters multiple times so that the pliers would not close or get stuck and I've just filed the damaged part out and they work great.
I was not expecting a funny review. Good job. Haha!
Replaceable wire cutters also mean you don't have to send your tool in, thus being without it for 7 or more days.
I'll take my Wave plus all day over the Charge for the extra money. I just bought my wave plus $80 US brand new during Leatherman's 20% off sale. The cpm-154 blade is not worth the extra cash for me.
A blade forum sez
Same makeup, different manufacturing process -- 154cm is a traditional ingot steel, cpm154 is a particle metallurgy steel.
I have a Surge, a Rebar, and a Signal. If I ever damage the wire-cutters on one, I will first try to get it covered under warranty. The wire-cutters are not specifically excluded from the warranty, so I expect them to be replaced free of charge, under warranty, just as if anything else failed on the tool.
Hell yeah, a multi tool with decent steel!
If the serrated blade was 154cm also it would be more compelling I think.
This channel is like a video game so we’re due a boss battle 🐣🐣
I got over 12 months life with the gaffa tape key
The world revolves around solutions for problems that don’t exist
Love your music choices
Good review mate, cheers
IMO you just still can't beat rebar in terms of size / functionality
I agree. Its leathermans best buy for sure.
Leatherman all the way. Thanks for the awesome video it was really helpful to me good day 👍
Its very interesting n helpful review about Charge+, mate. Thankyou 4 that. Very intriguing me 2 buy this knife. Im considering to buy this one or a Charge Tti. This Charge+ have a replacable wire cuter, whilst the Tti doesnt. But Tti has a titanium scale. What is this Charge+ scale made of, mate? Thankyou in advance 😇
PVC piping is my bag, baby
Like many I've watched every video and review on various multitools and still had a hard time deciding. I just bought this charge at smkw. Think I made a good desicion.
Excellent review!
Great video If zt makes a multi tool it’s going to be like 25 pounds you’ll need a shoulder strap to carry it lol
I cannot see any screw/bolts on scales, can you still disassemble or adjust it by yourself if it become loose?
Kinda wished it had an awl instead of the flathead screwdriver
Just a heads up, i'm pretty sure you're using the wire strippers incorrectly. Wire should be perpendicular and pulled the other way.
I would have thought paramedic shears would be be pretty good. But i don't know.
11:24 tim Leathermans teeth can cut nails? Damn
I have the Charge Ti, but carry the Wingman most???
Why do you find you carry wingman more? Thinking about getting a charge ti, already have a wingman that I rarely use, usually pick up my skeletool but lost it.
You like the FF8 music, don't you Cedric? I'm looking into the charge plus myself.
honestly i never thought about the warranty not covering replacable parts so does that 25 year warranty not cover the cutter blades and other detachable items?
nope you gotta buy em
Talking irreverent shite or discussing the topic of the video in the comments aside for once.. You like to keep your job separate from your TH-cams, but it's pretty clear what you do for a living. Thanks for the good work you do. It's also a bonus how you can relate these tools' uses to actual real world applications.
Fucking hilarious review!
+1 MONTAGE SKILL
LEVEL UP!!!
Why do they always leave out the awl? Dammit man!
tried to do a nail stomp on a 1 inch nail, fucking busted the cutters. i think tim's cutting an aluminium nail lol.
Replaceable cutters are way better bexause shipping the tool cost me more than buying the replaceable cutters
It's free to ship a Leatherman for warranty replacement or repair. At least in Australia it is, it was free when I did it. maybe you'd have to pay for the package which would be a couple of dollars.
Use shrink warp for car keys
how the hell are you able to strip off the wire insulatio so easily with the stripper? i've tried your method and it definitely doesn't strip it, and it's still not properly stripping even if i try to turn the wire around to get all sides
At the same price which one would you pick?
Hi sir, great video.
I wonder if you can answer me something, i have a Leatherman Charge+, but i broke the file, mi question is, do you know if i can put the blade exchanger of the surge instead of the file? as of that i can have even the file but more options to change the saw? i know that if this is possible i will have to take of the file to close because the blade exchanger plus the file or saw will be larger than mi Charge+, but is not big deal for me, i only need to know if the bale exchanger of the surge fits on the file´s place in my Charge+.
Thanks a lot for your help
Useful
5:56 "shops"
Someone is a Final Fantasy fan
nice vid
Scissors are disappointing and the saw blade should be changeable like the surge. If the surge had a 154cm blade, it would blow this away.
5:53😂😂
You might be the only person to use the rescue hook for rescue. Are you a paramedic?
First responders don't use those thing (per the wife who is one).
Andy Richardson I use the rescue hook on my Benchmade triage all the time. Works great for pants and shirts.
Nic As a first responder? I stand corrected if so. I many years of service the wife has never seen one of those used. Got her one to try and she wasn't impressed. She has very good shears and a knife she loves.
Similar to the tiny glass breakers on some knives. Her comment to me was "we have real tools for that."
Andy Richardson. Yeah, I'm a full time firefighter. Shears definitely work just fine most of the time. As far as knife blades I normally don't like to use them close to a patient, I'd go for shears or a hook, something blunted with a little more forgiveness. I haven't used the hook on this Leatherman in particular, but the Benchmade resuse hooks work well. I will say the hook on the Leatherman OHT doesn't seem to work as well as the BM ones. It comes to more of a V shape. Rounded ones work better in my experience. But everyones milage may vary.
Nic Awesome, and thanks for doing what you do. Wife was fire a while back. Now medic only. She uses a 4" mid-tech knife. I have no idea how she does it and seems way too scary to me.
That's not a nail, it's a firing pin
"Slightly less shit!" then sex shops / PVP piping. Lol
5:45 🤣
what is the size of the blade?
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Could you link the sharpening equipment you use.
Mike Isaac Lansky kit. Worksharp knife and tool sharpener (mini belt sander) and Tormek.
Search his channel and these key words. He reviews them all. Tormek is more expensive and specialised and might be harder to get. He first two are widely available.
Tony Canniffe thank you so much. 🤙
Mike Isaac Is recommend the Lansky Diamond kit + the stand (it’s an additional cost). You can get other extras like the strop.
Replaceable cutters have no benefit! Wow okay. lol
What if you use them all the time and having sharp cutters makes your job easier? Can’t send them back if you use them daily but You can easily change out the damaged ones with new ones and get back to work. I don’t think they did a redesign because they wouldn’t have to repair tools, I’m pretty sure it was requested by actual users in the field. And it just makes the tool better period.
im so poor lol only got a leather man ps and cs
have not watched your vids in a long timmeeee
Save up and get a Wave,charge,surge or Rebar