Cheers. Would you have met any of the signalers or driver's involved in the 77 collision. I know their mentioned in the accident report but left names out of the video to avoid any upset
One of the casualties of the 1905 crash was the Vorticist artist and singer Lawrence Atkinson. He was thrown so clear of the crash that the company tried to make out that he hadn't been on the train, but he eventually got compensation. His injuries foced him to give up his singing career and concentrate on painting.
Thanks Chris, a fascinating bit more history I didn't know of. Typical of the company trying to wriggle out of giving compensation. Something companies & organisations still do today
Wonderful. Thanks. We used to live on Somerville Grove, overlooking the railway and close to Brooke Road level crossing. I remember the Class 502's and diesel Dmu units vividly and both had a very distinct sound. I also remember the noise of the manually operated gates at the crossing slamming shut. Sometimes the signalbox operator would forget to open the gates in time for the trains which would cause a stop signal and irate train drivers to sound their horns! Iwas looking on google street view recently and the Brooke Road signal box and gates have long gone, replaced by barriers of course. Lots of memories of Hall Road station too when using it to go and chip a few balls around the golfcourse. Happy days. Snif.
Thanks Chris, glad it brought back memories for you. The old mechanical boxes & gates are sadly missed. I was fascinated watching the signalman turning the big wheel to close & open the gates
Those first generation electrics may not have been robust in collisions but they looked great. Full of character. Their replacements 1939/42 were also highly distinctive. The current trains are nippy and I shall miss them but am looking forward to the new stock. The 1905 accident at Hall Road was featured in the first chapter of a book "Railway Accidents of the Twentieth Century" by J.A.B. Hamilton (published 1967) and I was very interested to find your channel featuring the same event. Nicely researched and presented.
Thanks Bob. We had some interesting electric stock on the Merseyside electric lines over the years. They all served the area well, including the current trains. The new ones will take time to settle in but hopefully will as good as the previous generations
Thanks for a great bit of Railway history. I used to treat the line from Hunts cross, up to Southport during the Sandite season. Those New houses were not there the last time I was up that way. I didn`t know there had been that number of accidents at that location. The first one, as you said, the Driver should have challenged the Signalman as to why he was being given a Green flag and not a Yellow one. It`s a nice run up there when it`s a sunny day. Cheers 👍.
Yes the houses are on the site of the old depot. The group that is restoring the Class 502 unit did enquire about the using it to restore the unit. But was told it was unsafe. The accidents at Hall Rd could have all been prevented if the rules had been followed.
Very enjoyable! I have been watching your Liverpool history series. It’s great to look at how my city was before my time and how much it’s changed. Thank you :)
Really enjoying your videos, moved from Liverpool when I went to university - that is almost 50 years ago now. Very informative and well thought out, with great historical and video content. However, on this video, I had a really hard time understanding what you were saying at times. You have a soft voice which sometimes trails off slightly as you continue speaking - I do exactly the same as you!!! Just wondering if you could speak a little closer to the microphone so that some of us old geezers aren't straining to listen to all you have to say. Many thanks.....Ian
Guilty as charged. I used one of those combined mobile headphones / microphone things for this. Not really up to the job. Also the edit wasn't that good. Am still learning the ins and out of editing. What sounds fine in the editor on the PC can be inaudible on other devices. No excuse really as I have hearing loss. Incidentally I've had some compliments on my voice, though I expect they are taking the mick. I hate the sound of my voice. Perhaps I should use one of those electronic voices
There was a fire in the tunnel at Dingle on the Overhead Railway at Christmas time 1901; six died due to the fusing of one of the train motors. Then in 1903, when the Southport Line was still steam operated, an excursion train derailed at Waterloo, seven dead. These were before the days of the brand "Merseyrail" of course.
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I was the signalman at Hall Road from 1989 to 1991. Nice to see pictures of the old box. Well done. Great video.
Cheers. Would you have met any of the signalers or driver's involved in the 77 collision. I know their mentioned in the accident report but left names out of the video to avoid any upset
One of the casualties of the 1905 crash was the Vorticist artist and singer Lawrence Atkinson. He was thrown so clear of the crash that the company tried to make out that he hadn't been on the train, but he eventually got compensation. His injuries foced him to give up his singing career and concentrate on painting.
Thanks Chris, a fascinating bit more history I didn't know of. Typical of the company trying to wriggle out of giving compensation. Something companies & organisations still do today
Wonderful. Thanks.
We used to live on Somerville Grove, overlooking the railway and close to Brooke Road level crossing. I remember the Class 502's and diesel Dmu units vividly and both had a very distinct sound. I also remember the noise of the manually operated gates at the crossing slamming shut. Sometimes the signalbox operator would forget to open the gates in time for the trains which would cause a stop signal and irate train drivers to sound their horns! Iwas looking on google street view recently and the Brooke Road signal box and gates have long gone, replaced by barriers of course.
Lots of memories of Hall Road station too when using it to go and chip a few balls around the golfcourse.
Happy days. Snif.
Thanks Chris, glad it brought back memories for you. The old mechanical boxes & gates are sadly missed. I was fascinated watching the signalman turning the big wheel to close & open the gates
Those first generation electrics may not have been robust in collisions but they looked great. Full of character. Their replacements 1939/42 were also highly distinctive. The current trains are nippy and I shall miss them but am looking forward to the new stock. The 1905 accident at Hall Road was featured in the first chapter of a book "Railway Accidents of the Twentieth Century" by J.A.B. Hamilton (published 1967) and I was very interested to find your channel featuring the same event. Nicely researched and presented.
Thanks Bob. We had some interesting electric stock on the Merseyside electric lines over the years. They all served the area well, including the current trains. The new ones will take time to settle in but hopefully will as good as the previous generations
Thanks for a great bit of Railway history. I used to treat the line from Hunts cross, up to Southport during the Sandite season. Those New houses were not there the last time I was up that way. I didn`t know there had been that number of accidents at that location. The first one, as you said, the Driver should have challenged the Signalman as to why he was being given a Green flag and not a Yellow one. It`s a nice run up there when it`s a sunny day. Cheers 👍.
Yes the houses are on the site of the old depot. The group that is restoring the Class 502 unit did enquire about the using it to restore the unit. But was told it was unsafe. The accidents at Hall Rd could have all been prevented if the rules had been followed.
really enjoying your series of articles. Thank you.
Thanks, lots more planned, lockdown permitting
Very enjoyable! I have been watching your Liverpool history series. It’s great to look at how my city was before my time and how much it’s changed. Thank you :)
Thank you, there's been such a lot of change in our city over the year's
Really enjoying your videos, moved from Liverpool when I went to university - that is almost 50 years ago now. Very informative and well thought out, with great historical and video content. However, on this video, I had a really hard time understanding what you were saying at times. You have a soft voice which sometimes trails off slightly as you continue speaking - I do exactly the same as you!!! Just wondering if you could speak a little closer to the microphone so that some of us old geezers aren't straining to listen to all you have to say. Many thanks.....Ian
Guilty as charged. I used one of those combined mobile headphones / microphone things for this. Not really up to the job. Also the edit wasn't that good. Am still learning the ins and out of editing. What sounds fine in the editor on the PC can be inaudible on other devices. No excuse really as I have hearing loss. Incidentally I've had some compliments on my voice, though I expect they are taking the mick. I hate the sound of my voice. Perhaps I should use one of those electronic voices
Absolutely fabulous
Very interesting.
Sounds around the 6 minute mark we have loose bolts in a fishplate! PW to attend.
I hope its been fixed by now!
Has Merseyrail had accidents before in the past. Not forgetting a rail derailment at Kirkby.
There was a fire in the tunnel at Dingle on the Overhead Railway at Christmas time 1901; six died due to the fusing of one of the train motors. Then in 1903, when the Southport Line was still steam operated, an excursion train derailed at Waterloo, seven dead. These were before the days of the brand "Merseyrail" of course.